AUGUST 2008 ~ BUMP BUDDIES

Announcement of pregnancy and birth following assisted reproductive treatment.
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itsgottawork: Hello!! I am glad you snuck a peak over here! CRAZY Huh!!
the shock is settling in and now I am getting really excited!! I am convinced I am having one boy (the one that has been hiding on us) and one girl....I know it is an old wives tale, but their heartbeats are so different, even though their measurements are the same!! Thanks again! HOw are things with you? It looks like you trying again with your March Cycle? Good luck! Who knows maybe you'll be the next to announce twins!! :D

Gori: I know! It is a little freaky and even scary! I do not know how my clinic missed the second twin!!! I have asked myself that question a thousand times..I even went to the clinic to show them the pics but everyone was out to lunch and noone has called me back yet..I thougt they would at least want to change my file and their statistics....anyway..I asked the tech (who told me about the twins) that same question....all she said was she (my nurse at the RE's office)just didn't scan my uterus completely...which is wierd because she was waving that wand all around looking at my ovaries and everything! When I went back and looked at the ultrasounds from my first two..I noticed that you can indeed see the hiding twin...but I did not know to look for it earlier, I was just focused on my one little bean! Anyway..confusing as it is, I also asked the tech about whether the twins were identical or fraternal..she said it is impossible to tell without an amnio or until the sex is visible....each twin has its own chorion..which I think turns into the placenta....that is a good thing, bc I guess when they share the same placenta there is a chance for there to be on dominant twin and survival of the fittest kicks in.....We put two embryos back in (my RE wanted to put 3 and I said no)....I think both embryos took..I do not think one split...that is just my gut....because I think I am having a boy and a girl..maybe just wishful thinking...maybe motherly instinct!! :D I hope this helps....the only lesson that can be learned from this is....you never know what waits around the corner when you are going through fertility treatments!!!!

As far as beta levels go...TinaO and I both had about the same levels but she ended up with one (we think! :lol: :lol: )
so I do not know how much those levels can really tell you....but if your gut is telling you, you are carrying more than one....then you might ask your nurse for another thorough looksie!! Good Luck!


So last night when I was up @ 3 am because I could not sleep!! I got up drank a glass of milk and read some of my book "twins, triplets and quads" It says that I should gain 40-50 lbs and should have 25 of those lbs on by 21 weeks....I am freaking out..thinking I had better get to eating!!! It says I should eat red meat 2 times a day and milkshakes (along with all the fruits and vegetables) I am going to have to turn into a feeding machine for the next few months!! It is going to take some adjustment...but I must do it for the babies!!!!

I hope everyone has a great weekend!

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the only lesson that can be learned from this is....you never know what waits around the corner when you are going through fertility treatments!!!
Truer words were never spoken, LOL.

MBG, glad to hear you are doing so well and are adjusting to your exciting news. How in the heck can a person eat red meat two times per day? That sounds like an awful lot. How is your DH adjusting to the news? Is he excited, nervous, scared, etc.?

I had my nuchal translucency u/s on Friday. The baby looked so awesome. I could barely believe how much of a human being it looked like. I was relieved to see ears, a nose, nicely shaped head, two arms and hands, and two legs. And of course, a strongly beating heart. The tech said the nuchal measurement looked good, although they have to wait for the blood work. If I hear nothing on Tuesday then I am in the clear for this first round. Then I go back in the early 2nd trimester for more blood work, and then they give me my estimate of risk. Not fun, but at least I got to see the kid, moving and kicking and waving its arms. Because the u/s went well I made my announcement at work on Friday. It is such a RELIEF to finally have my news out in the open.
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seltzer-

Great news on your u/s! Sounds like you're moving right along! What a relief it must have been to let the cat out of the bag at work! A handful of people know my 'news' at work, and I plan on letting more know around my 12th week mark.

I had a slightly annoying thing happen at work last week. Another teacher in my building announced that she's pregnant & due in September - so weird to hear about someone due after me & announcing so early...I really do wish her the best & I can't wait to share my news with her - soon! On the heals of her announcement, our building was buzzing with the news & I happened to be in our main office chatting with our secretaries & in walks this one teacher who calls me out in front of four other people, and says "Ya know, some people were talking this morning, and they realized that you're like the last to have a baby...when is that going to happen?" Can you say biatch?! In the matter of two seconds, I went through a number of things I could say to her to cut her down, things that I know would sting her just as bad as she stung me & then I thought better of it. I said directly to her, "Well, those 'people' should know that's an extremely sensitive topic, and as women, they should also know that's not something you ask someone. I'll save those 'people' the speech I had to give to my insensitive MIL." It's funny she used the word 'people', because I know for sure it's just her fishing for gossip. I've never had any conflicts with this woman before & I'm not sure why she put me on the spot like that, but I did not appreciate it one bit. I was so annoyed that I called her that night and said, "If I came off sounding snotty that was not my intent. But you have to realize that you seriously have no idea what some people have to go through & you're tone & question to me was way out of line, especially b/c you called me out in front of others." She apologized left and right, and said that she understood that she put her foot in her mouth & that she wasn't attempting to hurt me, that she was only trying to be a "cheerleader". Well, honey, pom poms & mini-skirts don't cut it for those of us that things just don't happen naturally for. I don't know, maybe I should have laughed off her question, maybe she caught me at the wrong time during a hormonal surge...but it felt pretty damn good to put her in her place!

Bigger & better things...we have our first Ob appt. on Tuesday morning! Very excited to see the lil' peanut again! I was worried about parking, b/c the Ob's office is located inside a major hospital in the area & I know we'd have to park like half a mile away. And I've noticed that if I walk too far I tend to get little cramps in my belly. Well, I found out that his office has valet parking, how key is that?! Loving this guy already!

Anyone make the switch to maternity pants yet?! My SIL gave me all of her maternity clothes & I've been lounging around the house in maternity yoga pants for the past two days - what a difference!
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seltzer-
I forgot to ask...how is your OHSS? Did they still see fluid in your ovaries? Were you told you had PCOS prior to IVF? I was told I had PCOS last Spring, although I don't fit any of the physical characteristics. I've been taking Metformin (glucophage) for a while now & that is somehow supposed to help with the hyper stimming.
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Hello all!

dancinnancy - YOU GO GIRL!!!! I am proud of you. I have to admit that I admire you for sticking up for yourself. I have this neighbor who I really think means well, but EVERY time I see her, she asks all sweet and everything, "So, how's it going with the baby making?" It's like I have told her over & over again in the past, well, I am still not pregnant, we are struggling, its very hard....can't you take a hint???? QUIT ASKING!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: Damn - it pisses me off. My husband asked me the other day if I had told her yet and I thought "no, I will wait until I see her again and I KNOW she will ask". I just don't get it!!! I told my husband that I wanted to look her in the eyes and say, "You didn't have any problems having your 2 little girls, did you"? Because if you did - you would not keep asking me OVER and OVER again!!!! :evil: Whew....got myself all worked up again!! I just hated so much all the comments from people before we got pregnant. Oh - one of my favorites was when this lady that hangs around my mom who has a grandaughter who went to high school with me made some comment to this other lady about grandchildren. Then the other lady said, "Oh Tina, do you not have any children yet"? And I was like smiling and saying, "No, we are working on it!". You know, trying to just smile & skip past the subject. And then the lady with the grandaughter who I went to high school with says, "Well, my grandaughter is her same age and already has 2 kids and stay at home to raise them". Who the hell cares???? Is this some kind of flippin competition???? Well, I quickly added, "Yes, and I have a very successful career that I have spent building and went to college and grad school." WTF???? I just don't get how people can be so insensitive????? :twisted: :twisted:

Ok, enough of my rants. Let's talk other things!

dancinnancy - Happy for you getting your 1st OB appt!!! I am so spoiled that I get to stay at my clinic for 12 weeks. I don't want to leave there!!! I am sure your appt will go wonderful!! :D

seltzer - Glad your nuchal translucency exam went so well. I am nervous about it. I don't know why - I just am. Sounds like yours went great so far!! :D

MBG - well, you will be happy to know that when we go back to the doc on Wed, I am going to have them do a damn good look around to make sure there is no other baby hiding in there. :lol: I really think my numbers were so high because mine implanted really early. If you recall, I started POAS at like a week before my beta test and they came out positive. Because in all reality too, they let me test a day early since I had been getting positive results for a week and my numbers were pretty high. Anyway, that is what I believe to be the case. But in your honor, I am going to have them do a thorough search just in case!!! :D :D

Well ladies, I have a confession. I ordered a fetal doppler machine on-line last night that you rent on a month-to-month basis. I think it may help my sanity. I had to laugh as I was doing it because I swear pregnancy tests my limits of sanity. :) Anyway, I will let you guys know how it goes.

Ok, I am off to exercise. I have now gained between 3-4 pounds and yet I swear, it looks like more....a lot more!!! I do not want to gain anymore this trimester if at all possible. I bought all kinds of yummy stuff at the grocery store last night - cottage cheese, bananas, yogurt, milk, broccoli, etc....all the good stuff for the baby! At some point, I am going to have my husband start taking pictures month by month to see how I am progressing. I will have to post them somewhere you all can see and then you will probably think, "Oh wow - honey, you do need to take it easy." :lol:

Ok, take care and I hope everyone else is doing well also!!!
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Dancinnancy-

I am sooo glad you had the presence of mind to say what you said to your co-worker. I've had women at work ask me "Soooo, what are you waiting for?". The secretary, a HUGE pain in the ass, asked numerous times if I am pregnant (before I was)! Many parents asked me how many children I have (I am a speech therapist working with children in an outpatient clinic). All of these comments add up to people who are so out of touch and insensitive. Also, I'm glad you called her. She's gotta know how wrong it is to make those kinds of comments!

Well, just know that we have all probaby experienced that uncomfortable situation of loudmouths sticking their noses where they don't belong, and I for one commend you on the way you handled it. Bravo.

Shari
Damaged Tubes; 1st IVF- BFN; 2nd IVF-BFP, our precious son :); 3rd IVF stopped due to natural miracle BFP, then mc@8 wks.; 4th IVF: June '11- BFN :( Bring On IVF#4!

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Hello everyone!

Dancinnancy: Congrats! on your come back! I am right there with you girl! It is annoying at how insentive people can be..when you tell someone one time that you are trying....they should just step back and not ask you the same question every time you see them!!! Anyway..I am proud you...if anything, maybe your co-worker will think twice before she puts her foot in her mouth with someone else that is trying to concieve!!

Good luck @ your OB appointment...it really is a good feeling graduating to the baby docter that all regular pregnant women go to!!!

Seltzer: Congrats on your positive Nuchal scan!! Well to answer your question...we are both adjusting to the news! My husband is excited, but extremely nervous about $$ and the size of our house. We live in a 1500 sqr foot house...we have a room directly off of our bedroom, that I was currently using as an office, that is going to become the nursery. It is a good size room and will easily fit 2 cribs, changing table, baby armoir and chair, plus it is attached to one of our bathrooms. This arrangement will work while the children are still using their cribs....once they need to graduate to reg. beds, we will have another issue. I keep telling him that we are fine here for at least 1 1/2 yrs....the babies are not going to take up that much space when they are still so little!! I want to stay here for now, because I do not want to work( or work very little) for the first couple of years. And our house payment is so low at this house...if we bought a new bigger house we will have a higher house payment and I will definately have to work! :twisted: :roll:

I have to say..I too am kind of stressed out about the whole staying home/working thing! I keep telling myself that everything will work out,but it is scary. I want my babies to have the best care possible and I can't help but think, I can give them the best care possible!! We have a lot to think about and discuss over the next few months!!

I have found myself having a hard time eating as much as I am supposed to be eating...(never thought I would ever say those words!! :lol:) The thing is..I am drinking so much water and eating every 2 hours...so I always feel full..it is hard to choke down food when you feel full...it makes me feel as though I might throw-up...which would be awful, as it would it put me 2 steps backward as far as caloric intake!! Anyway..dh calls me all day long to make sure I am eating as I should...It is sweet!

Tina0: Good luck at your scan this week! Yes! Have them check every little nuck and cranny of your uterus! :lol: I am sure it is just a flook that my RE Nurse did not see the second the baby :shock: ...I am sure you just have one strong little one growing in there!

I hope everyone has a great week keep us posted as how your appointments go!!

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Hi girls

Lovely to find a thread where everyone is synchronised! I am taking the plunge and coming over to this side again!

I am an old timer on this board, as Joshi was our miracle born in 2006. At last we are pg again after a tough time of disappointments, and now well twins and possibly three (althuogh our third little one was smaller at scan, but had heartbeat so we'll have to wait and see).

So glad to join you, although theoretically due date would be September 7 even if our multiple turned into a singleton (I hope not but I know it can happen as first scan was 6+2, quite early) the it will be a planned c/s at 38 weeks for gynae reasons (fibroids etc), so another August baby.

I have next scan on Thursday (7 weeks +5 days) so maybe things will be clearer then..

Love to all. anyone else sick as a dog????

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Hey everyone, I really enjoyed reading all the posts. Taylorjools, welcome to our little club.

I just cannot get over the stories of all the rude/insenstiive people in this world (dancinnancy, sharishu, tinao) - UNREAL! I say good job to you, dancinnancy, for ripping that woman a new a**hole, LOL. Sounds like you put your pregnancy hormones to good use! I myself have been a total & complete irritable, raving ***** since I got the BFP (I think the bitchiness is getting better though). I think most of the irritability was due to the OHSS, though, which is resolving. My ovaries aren't very enlarged anymore. To answer your question, no, I don't have PCOS. My IVF was not even covered by insurance (to the tune of $16K). I did IVF because my partner and I had a limited amount of donor sperm left, and we wanted to used the same sperm we used when my partner conceived our son. We want the kids to be biologically related. So I guess my ovaries just went ballistic with all the fertility drugs. I am someone who doesn't even deal well with the moodiness of my period, so I have not reacted well mood-wise to the OHSS or the pregnancy.

I have succumbed to wearing maternity pants. This morning was the final straw, when I put on pants that were roomy, and they are no longer roomy. I think I am getting a small-ish bump in my lower abdomen, even though in actuality it looks like I am just eating too much. One day I feel like I've eaten way too much, and the next I worry I'm starving the baby. God I am so messed up about the food/weight thing.

Tinao - when will you start using the doppler? I've considered renting one of those. please let us know how it works for you.
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Hey ladies,

I'd like to raise the topic of coffee during pregnancy. I have had neither caffeinated or decaf since the 2ww, but I am CRAVING some 'joe' in the morning, plus I feel I need a bit of a jolt to get me going; my energy has been sooo low. My doc actually said to go ahead and drink a cup in the morning, and that it was fine. I have not done it yet. I'm not sure if I will. Just want to know what you gals have heard/decided regarding coffee. Thanks!

Shari
Damaged Tubes; 1st IVF- BFN; 2nd IVF-BFP, our precious son :); 3rd IVF stopped due to natural miracle BFP, then mc@8 wks.; 4th IVF: June '11- BFN :( Bring On IVF#4!

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Hi Shari
I don't drink coffee anyway (can't stand the stuff) but I switched to de-caf tea during treatment and I've only had the occasional pepsi since being pregnant.
The official recomendations here are that 300mg caffeine per day is ok (I think that's about 3 cups coffee?) but there was a report on the news this week that said even 200mg may double the risk of m/c so I'm kinda relieved I cut right down.

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Squeezan-
Thanks for the feedback. I have a feeling I'm gonna stay off it for the next long while, anyway. Everyone will just have to deal with my grouchiness in the meantime :roll: .

Taylorjools-
A warm warm welcome, and many congratulations to you! I just want to wish you LOTS of luck with your 'multiples' pregnancy. I am pulling for all your little ones. I am sure that you are a bit sicker than me, what with all three tykes vying for your energy. I have been, however, very nauseous and dizzy, but actually feeling a bit better today. Not much vomiting (twice so far), but very 'gag'-y especially in the mornings. Pretty congested. Otherwise, I'm feeling fine.

MBG-
Yeah, I also started wearing maternity/stretchy pants, and am much more comfortable as a result. Do you look a lot more pregnant in them, cuz I do! Also, bought some baby doll/stretchy dresses, and look VERY pregnant in those. Feeling a little self conscious about it, but I'm trying to stay positive and calm about the whole thing.

Well, stay well ladies. Health and hugs...

Shari
Damaged Tubes; 1st IVF- BFN; 2nd IVF-BFP, our precious son :); 3rd IVF stopped due to natural miracle BFP, then mc@8 wks.; 4th IVF: June '11- BFN :( Bring On IVF#4!

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Hi Everyone,
I hope everyone is doing well. I just enjoyed a wonderful MLK Jr day off from work. I spent the whole day just doing whatever I wanted with no work or family obligations & it was great. Very relaxing.
I too have started wearing maternity pants. I just got tired of wearing baggy sweat pants everyday. I bought 2 pairs of old navy colored jeans for $15.00 apeice! They are so comfy & pretty much still look like regular jeans, they just have elastic in the back. I actually look less pregnant in them than I did in my regular clothes. My next challenge is to buy a swimsuit! I dont' know what to do about that. I go on vacation in a couple of weeks to Mexico and needless to say my old swimsuit looks horrible on me. I tried on a few yesterday. I'm not big enough for a maternity suit and the sizing seems all wrong on regular suits. Any suggestions?
Dancinancy, I was also very proud of you for the way you handled the rude coworker. Some people have no sense at all. I have been the subject of so much gossip at work over my "childless" state. That's not even mentioning how much my MIL has gossiped about me and what's wrong with me that I can't have kids(nothing -we have male factor infertility). But anyway, I don't want to dwell on the negatives.
Coffee -I wouldn't drink it now even though some MD's say it's OK. The news had a big story just yesterday on how it increase risk of miscarriage. I want a cup so badly. I LOVE coffee, but I quit before the cycle started. It seems like everything I see on TV shows people in a coffee house drinking cappucinos. I also LOVE wine, but I cant do that either. Last night my DH was drinking a glass of very good Australian Shiraz, it smelled so good!
Well, I better get back to work now. Welcome Taylorjools.
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Rebecca-
I'm glad to hear you enjoyed your day off. I also took a day off to spend time with my folks (their last day visiting after 2.5 weeks). I will really miss my mom; we went maternity clothes shopping, looked at ultrasound photos- it was fun! Re: swimsuit options- are you planning on actually swimming? If it's more to lie out, then you might want to try a swimsuit 1-2 sizes larger than normal, and a wraparound mini-stretch beach type skirt if you feel self conscious about your bump. I'm sure you'll pull something together that you feel comfortable with.

Thanks for the info regarding coffee! I did not hear about that new study, but it definitely makes my decision easier. I am like you- I absolutely LOVE coffee. The smell, the taste, the coziness. We can celebrate with a cappucino once the babies are born, PG.

Health and hugs to all...
Shari
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Hello girls!
My SIL was just telling me about the coffee/caffeine news story. I too loved to have an occasional coffee, mostly on the weekends...but I stopped drinking it all together back in September just to be on the safe side. What about chocolate? Is there seriously enough caffeine in chocolate to adversely affect the baby?! My SIL is a nut about this, and claims that chocolate is the enemy! I have a tough time waging war on such a lovely & decadent treat. Any thoughts?

We had our 2nd u/s today, first one with our Ob! Good vibes from the office, loved my nurse, and the Dr was very thorough. The u/s sound was really cool! SO much has changed in 3 1/2 weeks! The baby was laying flat on it's back, and out of nowhere the cute little peanut started dancing all around! We saw the arms and legs moving, and the entire body looked like the baby was trying to do "the worm" for us! Oh boy, we have a performer on our hands! We heard the heartbeat again too! It had a different rhythm than the last time, and I think it's up to 166bpm. I'm amazed at the changes, and how much it looked like a baby! Only one baby, MBG! I had them triple check for stow-aways! We go back in two weeks...I think I will have the Nuchal scan done at that point, I've heard 11 weeks is a good time to have it done.

Much love to all my fellow preggers!
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