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Post by RunnerKate »

indie_rad,

My first response: do not overanalyze these symptoms. There is not way to know until you get the blood test. Symptoms can either be related to a pregnancy OR the meds we are on. You will drive yourself crazy with this.

I had some of the EXACT SAME symptoms for this cycle that I had for my prior failed IUI. These were: sore BBs, tiredness, cramps with no immediate period.

However, this cycle I had several things that I did not have the last time:
1. My nipples were itchy. It came and went, but some days it was really bad.
2. I did notice that I had more "bumps" on my nipples, which I thought I made up in my head, but later read is a sign of pregnancy.
3. I felt my heart racing, which I thought was just nervousness, but later read is a sign of pregnancy.
4. I have less energy when I work out. I can't run at a fast pace (maybe b/c I didn't run for 2.5 weeks) or do the elliptical at really hard levels.

I really didn't think I was pregnant and really had no signs of pregnancy while going through the 2 WW (seriously, look at my prior posts!).

Keep positive.
Me: 30, Maybe Ovulatory Dsyfunction (?)
Hubby: 34, MF--Really Low Morphology
IUI Failed December 2007
1st IVF February/March 2008
ER 2/17
ET 2/20
Test 3/5 BFP!!!! 1st Beta: 632
3/7 2nd Beta: 1139
3/9 3rd Beta: 2331
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Post by RunnerKate »

Just got my 2nd beta: 1139...which is almost doubling but not quite. My nurse said it was fine. This is good, right?
Me: 30, Maybe Ovulatory Dsyfunction (?)
Hubby: 34, MF--Really Low Morphology
IUI Failed December 2007
1st IVF February/March 2008
ER 2/17
ET 2/20
Test 3/5 BFP!!!! 1st Beta: 632
3/7 2nd Beta: 1139
3/9 3rd Beta: 2331
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Post by casey »

RunnerKate...you are fine. As long as there is a rise. You have strong numbers!

Indie_rad...I actually felt right before my blood test that af was going to come so really the meds play some serious games with your body. My best friend is a doc and she always says that it is way too early for symptoms so don't analyze much.

Positive thoughts for you! Best wishes to all the other ladies.
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IrishHope--any luck w/ b/w today. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Post by kbat »

iccin---don't you test today? I am wishing you a lot of luck and pray that you will get a BFP. :D :D :D Let us know how it went.
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Irish Hope--Any news?
Me: 30, Maybe Ovulatory Dsyfunction (?)
Hubby: 34, MF--Really Low Morphology
IUI Failed December 2007
1st IVF February/March 2008
ER 2/17
ET 2/20
Test 3/5 BFP!!!! 1st Beta: 632
3/7 2nd Beta: 1139
3/9 3rd Beta: 2331
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Post by indie_rad »

Iccin - Good luck to you today. I will be praying for your BFP.

Kate,Casey - thanks! I am keeping PMA. Just another 48hrs to go!
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Me - 33
DH - 35
TTC - 5years
1 ectopic, 1mc
male factor, t-shaped uterus
1st IVF - Chemical
2nd IVF - BFN
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Post by IrishHope »

hi Guys - BFN! I was prepared - I know my body and don't buy the "this can mean that". I knew since last Sunday but the blod test confirmed it yesterday...I cried it out (THANK GOD at the last minute I took the day off) and am ready to get back on the horse...pushing to start this cycle since we are lucky to have 5 frozen "ice babies"....I'm actually doing really well and welcome a few weeks of our "regular" life back...

By the WAY once again my NURSE fuc....ng might be the stupidest person I've ever met in a professional setting...Dh asked if we can start right away since we won't need to "stim, retrieve etc." and many docs are ok since your body won't be put thru as much (just Lupron and pills for your uterine lining) piece of cake! She's like PROTOCOL is you skip a month and let the body rest ...he's like "uhm but we have frozen embryos and don't need to go thru much this time"...she's like "oh yeah uhm let me check I forogt you had frozen embryos"....OK how about when you call to tell us BFN you READ our GOD DAMN chart and have a CLUE...and PRETEND you're somewhat interested and on top of your game...

Good luck all you pregnant ladies, those stimming, and those in the 2WW...
TTC #1 16 mos.
Me 34 DH 34 normal
Endo stage I/II - laparscopy in 1997/Nov 2007
IVF #1 Feb/March - BFN
IVF#2 May/June BFP
Beta 149 6/15
Beta 602 6/18
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Post by RunnerKate »

I'm so sorry Irish Hope.
Me: 30, Maybe Ovulatory Dsyfunction (?)
Hubby: 34, MF--Really Low Morphology
IUI Failed December 2007
1st IVF February/March 2008
ER 2/17
ET 2/20
Test 3/5 BFP!!!! 1st Beta: 632
3/7 2nd Beta: 1139
3/9 3rd Beta: 2331
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Post by brs888 »

I'm so sorry, IrishHope. Even when you're prepared (as I have had plenty of BFNs) it's still tough. So you are in all of our thoughts. Take some time and really pamper yourself...even if that just means laying around in a snuggly blanket all day :)

I am really sorry so many of you have awful nurses. I go to U Penn and love absolutely everyone there, doctors, nurses, interns...you name it.

It looks like our group is slowly dwindling. I test on Friday the 14th...who else will test this week?

Brandy
Me 33 endometriosis; DH 36 male factor
1st IVF -ve May 05
2nd IVF +ve Sept 05 DD Morgan born May 25th 2006
3 failed FETs in 2007
3rd IVF March 05 +ve :)
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really sorry about your news IrishHope--i guess you're like me though and kind of knew what some of the stuff going on was. I am past the crying stage--just so hard for me to get past the whole it's over thing. Part of me wants to get one final opinion and might be willing to do a little traveling (like to CT or NYC or MA), but part of me is telling me to move on w/ my life.... I thought I would be prepared to just stop after the 6th one, and I don't proceed, I probably wouldn't regret it because I did try 6 times and did 3 IUI's, but then I think that I know I can get pregnant--did happen twice--once naturally, which ended in a miscarriage at about 8 or 9 weeks and then the last one w/ an etopic. So, I know it can happen--just trying to figure how to get and stay pregnant.
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Post by IrishHope »

kbat - give yourself some more time to find clarity...it is a constant "ping pong" game - you have tried valiantly and ifyou feel you have it in you to keep going then go for it! You are able to get pregnant which is a great sign! I wish you luck and peace in whatever decision you decide...what does DH think?
TTC #1 16 mos.
Me 34 DH 34 normal
Endo stage I/II - laparscopy in 1997/Nov 2007
IVF #1 Feb/March - BFN
IVF#2 May/June BFP
Beta 149 6/15
Beta 602 6/18
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Post by kbat »

I think dh would pretty much do what I want in this regard, but the money factor would be an issue. he's a lawyer, so he likes to know all the facts. Although, he's been really good during this whole process, I think he wouldn't mind not pursuing it any further and would probably say let's just get on w/ our lives. I think if I just got one final opinion, I am not sure if I want to go through all the testing all over again, which a lot of clinics would want to do their own tests--like the semen analysis (no matter how many times they do it, it's still going to show dh is fine), along w/ all the test that they would make me do over. Since insurance has always paid 100% (except for co-pays), I really don't have a grasp of exactly the cost. Probably in the end, we wouldn't do it because of the cost. Also, not really fully satisfied w/ either clinic I've been too for various reasons, and trying to find one that I think would be suitable and not too far away seems like a hassle. I am sure given some time to get over this, I am sure that I will just get on w/ my life.

brs888-keep us posted.

Iccin any results yet
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Post by arizonakiwi »

Hi,

I hope I can join your group !!!!

My DH had a reversal 4 years ago that was unsuccessful and we have tried 3 rounds of IVF over the last year or so. The 1st was cancelled just before EC because I over stimulated and ended up with ohss, unfortunately our 2nd IVF was a negative and we had no embies survive to freeze and our 3rd attempt just before Christmas ended up with a negative but we had one embie left to freeze. Which brings me to the present.......

I had FET last week and I am currently in my 2 week wait and finding it really hard this time. Time seems to have stood still this time and I am feeling really anxious about the result - the other times I felt ok until a couple of days before test day but this time I feel really wound up about the whole thing. Last time I was just on the progesterone now I am on estergeon tablets also and I am wondering if it is the estergon tablets that are contributing to the way I am feeling.

Any hints on getting past this and getting a positive attitude until test day or is it the meds that are making me feel this way. I know all the anxiety I am feeling isn't good (which is making me feel all the more stressed !!!)
I look forward getting to know you all

Arizonakiwi
Me 37 DH 54
3rd IVF/ICSI Nov 07 BFN
March 08 FET BFN
June & Aug 09 DI BFN
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Post by IrishHope »

kbat - Time will give you clarity - it sux so badly that the clinics are not 100% client focused...they are a business just like any other...some time will help you clarify. As for cost I know w/ meds a full cycle is about $11 - $12k...We will be out of my insurance coverage after this frozen cycle and then I plan to finagle getting on my husband's insurance (even tho it won't be during open enrollment) I am in HR and know the ways around it :lol: His coverage has a max of $15k as well but for each cycle it's every $1 they pay we match so if this frozen cycle doesn't work we're looking at pretty much about $5 or $6k or their insurance $$ and same out of our pocket...I have 2 full Gonal F pens, progesterone etc. leftover so I think my meds will be alot cheaper if we have to do a 3rd and full cycle...it sux but we have prepared financially since we knew we might have issues so every bonus, tax return etc has gone to savings...no fancy cars, flat screen tv, no vacations...we work our a*** off and someday hopefully will have a family to show for it...

arizonakiwi - good luck - I hope you get your BFP! I am not a good one regarding PMA etc. I am very much a "realist" and in ways cynical :? so not into the "warm fuzzy oh a PMA will get you there" type - that is one of my biggest obstacles with this entire thing...and I work at it b/c I do believe it helps I just am not wired that way! I think acupuncture, a pedicure or massage or plentyof rest are all good for you to de-stress!!! Again, best of luck for you this cycle!
TTC #1 16 mos.
Me 34 DH 34 normal
Endo stage I/II - laparscopy in 1997/Nov 2007
IVF #1 Feb/March - BFN
IVF#2 May/June BFP
Beta 149 6/15
Beta 602 6/18
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