Anybody IVF progesterone ring study in Texas?

[stressball]

Hi all,
I had no where to go for support so came here. I might to backing of from doing the IVF...yes....its a long strory but in short my dh and I had a fight yesterday..the first day when I was supposed to start the bcp...he was so much into proving his point that he did not even think that this all would really mess me mentally and then would affect the cycle...the stupid fight was because...I was in terrible pain on Thurs. due to AF and I wanted him to hold me and also give me a pain medicine but he was so engrossed in t.v that he asked me to wait...that reallly pissed me off..may be the frustration of going through this ivf again was really seeping in me then and it was a bad timing...but its not new...every time we did a fertility traetment..we fought and fought...my dh was angry because I was angry with him for that thurs. night until next evening...he came home on Friday and I hugged him..and thats when he snapped back at me..the result..it became so bad that I left and stayed in motel.. I am back home this morning..but with a broken heart...I missed my pill..and also what is the ppoint of even going that route if he will not be there for me....gosh...I wish I could just disapper now...i AM milllions of miles away from my family so cant even share that with them...our fights are nothing new and my mother in law thinks that I am not getting pregnat becoz I am fighting with his poor son...god I want to run away...The thought of no traetment and never becoming pregnanat makes me carzy...

[IndieBlue]

So sorry Stress. I will tell you that anything dealing with IVF, adoption, or children in general will put a strain on your marriage. Maybe getting some counseling before you go forward with the IVF? Or maybe just sitting down one day and writing out things that bother you, and letting him do the same and then discussing them without getting mad....which is hard.

My husband and I have been married for 15 years and we are very close, but it's not always been that way. I used to assume he knew how I felt....big mistake. And as far as the Tylenol, and him telling you to wait....mine does that, if I need something right away I get it. If there is something he needs right away and I'm busy, he'll go get it himself. We learned early on, just because I think he should jump when I say to...LOL, that our priorities are different. He might not want to miss a Nascar moment....big wreck or something, while I may be in the middle of an email and have my train of thought going. Both of these examples mean nothing to the other person, my interest in Nascar is ZERO and his understanding of my brain and email is also ZERO.....so while it may look to the other like nothing important is going on, it is.

I know that doesn't help right now, since things have already been said and feelings have already been hurt but if you truly love each other and you want to make a family, you have to be willing to let these things go. Use humor to get through the day when you're stressed. I know that sometimes that is the only thing that keeps us from snapping at each other.

But again, anything in life involving children is going to be WAY WAY stressful. You'll be the primary care giver, you'll be tired of doing EVERYTHING along with what you used to do and you'll assume he can see you're weary and that you need his help.....again, don't assume! You'll be tired of being the person they call from school when the child is sick, and you have to take off work.....but that's the way it'll work out. There will be TONS of things that irritate you, but you have to work through them and talk to him. Tell him you need help with bathtime, tell him you want to go get your hair done and need someone to watch the baby, maybe giving him a few different days to choose from so you're not just shoving the responsibility on him...etc.

Okay, now that all that is said.....it'll also be the most magical time in your life. Your child will love you, and look at you and 'coo and giggle', they'll hug you when you're feeling down and say things on your bad days that make you just roll with laughter. They are the greatest treasures in the world....and yes I can even say that about my teens LOL

I really hope that things get worked out and that you're able to continue with the study. Sit down and talk it out....you obviously both wanted a child together, you can do it!!! It's just going to take some understanding on both your parts, and talking it out.

[stressball]

Hi Indie,
I wish I could just hug you right now and tell you "Thank you". All what you said was there in my mind but I just could not put it together...you put it in words for me....I really love my dh and I wish he could be my brain reader....His approach is very casual towrds infertility...if it works fine if not fine type....and I am the hyper one...Anyway...We bot suffered for two days and then eventually last night ...I hugged him and cried and cried and cried until I got exhausted....and then I felt so much better....I finally told someone that its not easy for me...I am scared....scared of my hopes...

About the treatment...I THINK i HAVE MESSED UP....Today is my day 5 and I was supposed to take bcp on day 3....I wrote an email to my nurse if I could still continue....

Councelling would help...but how and when is my question...You are so right that even if we get kids...it would be the same problem....

[Knrjack]

Indie ~ You nailed it right on the head. I have been married for 13 years and go through the exact same thing daily at times.

Stressball~ I have been going through an extreme emotional bit*&y moment this weekend too. I open my mouth and DH is mad at me all day long. I wanted to sleep in the other room last night over it but I sleep so much better in my own bed and won't give him the satisfaction of taking away a restful night. he he. Woke up this morning talked.

I think I am just moody from BCP that I haven't had to take in over 7 years. Just imagine what tomorrow will bring when I start my Lupron shots. I know I will get the swings. I just have to keep in check that it is the meds and to let things go. I am trying to prepare for it and start every sentence with Ok, here comes a moment for me. Brace for it. lol. ....

I am the same as Indie. I would love for my dh to get me the tyelnol but unless my legs are broken I am on my own. Just like he is for his beer. lol.

Indie you are an amazing writer. I would never be able to think that clearly either.

[IndieBlue]

Thank you ladies....and I'm so glad that you're feeling better Stress

It took me years to come to that understanding with my husband....and sometimes still I just scream "MACARONI"....figure it's better than cursing and it gets the point across LOL

One of my friends has a blog that she talked about marriage today....it was WONDERFUL and I really related. Marriages are hard, we're two different people, with different backgrounds and different ideals. My husband has wonderful attributes that I do not possess, and I have some completely opposite ones that he doesn't. He's very caring, but sometimes oblivious LOL He'll clean up the kids vomit, get up in the middle of the night with them...etc. But come 5am, it's all me LOL We compliment each other because of those differences though. He keeps me grounded and I keep him moving forward He keeps me and my mind 'in the box' and I sometimes let him out of his....LMBO!

While they do drive us crazy, and when kids enter the picture it can get even crazier....but we loved them for what they were once, we just have to step back from the stress of children and IVF to see that again

[stressball]

Hi,

Indie: I agree with you...Thanks again...you will really make your kids good husbands and good wifes...becoz kids learn from what we model than what we teach...Thanks again...you ar luck to have such an insight about realtionship...

Jack: yes the hormones make you crazy... fear also gives anger..and thats what happened to me....Lupron part is not that bad only thing is you need to get them in the morning...if you can afford to sleep back then you will forget that you even got a shot that morning....

Lets all hang in there....Please god make this work for all of us..and send us good souls in our lives...

Lov.

[stressball]

Hi all,
I called my nurse today to see if I could still be a part of the study and she sid YES.....what a relief.....its when the anger passes you feel so stupid..isnt it????
Anyway today was my 2nd pill and its making me very tired and vomitish...especially in the evening...also some stomach upset...but bearable...i drank lemonade and that helped in vomiting sensation...
Indie and Jack how are things with you? Indie did the nurse call???? can you still continue with your bcp?

baby dust....

[IndieBlue]

GOod morning ladies

Stress: So glad that you can continue on....and yes, I've done that before and then feel stupid afterwards. But, YAY....you didn't mess anything up. So what is the next step for you? I've heard that varying the time that you take the BCP's might help with those sick feelings....I've never taken them though, so who knows LOL

KnrJack: How is that Lupron going? Any noticeable mood changes yet? I don't remember any mood swings or changes when I did Lupron before....but then it's been FOREVER ago and it was when I donated eggs so maybe it wasn't so stressful for me and that made a difference. So you're well on your way now....YAY!

JNgrl: How are you? Where are you at in the cycle? Glad you got all your meds ready....I wish I was at that point Soon though!

Well, as far as my update I called the nurse yesterday (usually they don't call if everything comes back okay....only if there is a problem) and she said that the Estradiol came back at 55 so it's well within range. She said the FSH hasn't come back yet but that with this 'study lab' no news is usually good news. She said she'd call me with the results when she got them, otherwise they'd go over it with me on Thursday during our shot class and other test. Thursday should be the last of the 'main' test....I'll have my saline ultrasound, mock transfer, my husbands SA and his blood work and DONE! I'm really praying that I get to avoid that psychological visit....so maybe we'll bypass that. I have my BCP's but they told me to wait till April's cycle to start since I can't be on them and have a Saline ultrasound per the study criteria.

So...on to Thursday

[stressball]

Hi,

Indie: I did not know that varying the dates of bcp helps...my god I felt horrible the first 2 days..very vomitish and stomach issues...Anyway...your clinic seems to be a very strict one...I am not having any saline ultra sound...or psycho thing.... but if they are being so particular..they must be good..where is the clinic...I am in Austin tx...I am sure you will be fine on Thursday...

kjack and Jngrl: how are things with you?

Got to go..bye

[IndieBlue]

Yes, very very strict...LOL I'm not loving it, but I understand that they must follow protocol or the study would not be usable data. And I've also heard that varying the time you give yourself the prenatal vitamins can help with side effects too. I know I used to take mine in the morning (years ago) and I was sick till noon....most people try and take it at night?

I think, unless they direct me otherwise, that I'll take my BCPs late in the evening too, as I don't want to take chances that they'll make me sick either. I absolutely HATE to be sick LOL and I haven't thrown up in about 10 years LOL

I'm eager for the SA and the Saline US tomorrow....I actually looked online at some Saline US pictures and it's kind of neat. You can see the holes/dark spots where your tubes come in to your uterus...etc. I just hope they don't spot any abnormalities. I'm eager to get the results of my husbands semen analysis too....he's never had one (although we have 2 bio children, so I know it was good at one time LOL)....praying that there is nothing abnormal there either....it's really a neat study and you get in touch with your body with all these test and 'inside' pictures LOL

Oh and I'm in GA

[Knrjack]

Sorry Girls. I have been very emotional and on one major roller coaster. Just had to lay low for a few days. Holly cow I am bitchy, crying, smiling, somber from one second to the next. YIKES.

The Lupron shots are easy. Don't feel a thing. So I have to spread out my meds because with the DOxy (immune system stuff) I can't take Iron within 2 hours. So I get up at 5am Take my shot. 7 am take my BCP Eat breakfast and 1/2 hour after that take my Doxy. Lunch I take my Prenatal and 1/2 hour after dinner I take another Doxy. So much happening. I go to 3 shots a day next wednesday. WHOOOOOOOOOOO.


I never had the saline ultrasound. I am envious. They did a water one where they shoot up saline into me but the pics didn't look all that amazing like you mentioned. I am bummed. he he.

I only have 3 more days of taking BCP. YEAH. I waited too long to take my Doxy this morning and was violently sick but held it in and ate crackers. Much better now. WHEW>

Sorry for the all about me post. I promise to get back later and do personals.

[prayingforamiriclein08]

I am in SC and am hoping to participate in the same study. I have done all the pre testing. I am just waiting to start my period so I can go in for day 3 labs and ultrasound and then i can get the bc pills. I am just hoping there is still room in the study by then. I should be starting any day now. My insurance wont cover anything, so this would be such a blessing. If I get in the study I will have to spend around $4500.00 that will include all pretesting, meds, and the whole ivf/icsi process and storage for frozen embryos for a year. The meds are 1882.00 (included in the 4500.00) and y insurance may cover a bit of that. Not sure yet.

[IndieBlue]

Welcome PrayingForAMiraclein08 That's awesome that you're ready for day 3's....I just had those completed last week I'm going in for the saline ultrasound tomorrow, along with a mock transfer and my husbands semen analysis....should be a fun day. Oh and our shot classes are tomorrow too LOL It'll be around 3500 for the study, plus 2500 for the meds in our case. Still much cheaper than the 14,000 for a cycle in our local area, and that doesn't include meds. I do have to drive approximately 2-3 hours to the office, but again....a cycle is normally only 15 visits from start to finish so factoring in gas prices it's still WAY cheaper LOL than a full cycle locally.

South Carolina is BEAUTIFUL...we loved it when we visited a few years ago and thought about moving there. It's a lot like home though....we only live in North Georgia .

Knr: How are you keeping up with all those different times....calendar LOL I'm a post it note, calendar, highlighter type of gal, so I hope I can keep it all straight. I pray I'm not any more emotional LOL, that would be hard....hehehe. The water ultrasound sounds the same...maybe mine won't be as 'awesome' either LOL Maybe the ones online are the pick of the litter, so to say.....the best of the best LOL I think it'll be neat though, not looking forward to any cramping from the uterus being expanded though, was yours bad? How long did you end up taking BCP's? My pack is sitting here (I guess everyone is on Portia?, supplied by the study?).

Did everyone also have to bring back all the empty packages of study meds? She told me to take back the BCP wrapper and insert, and then I read in the paperwork that they wanted all the used gel or progesterone rings back too....ickkkk LOL

[Knrjack]

That is odd. I knew we had to bring back all the used rings and what not for the study part. But, I haven't heard about having to keep anything else med wise. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? I will ask at my next appointment on the 9th.


Indie ~ My saline ultrasound was a piece of cake. I have had an HSG done previously and they said it could be like that. OH NO. I freaked and brased myself. I didn't feel a thing in comparrison to the HSG, that hurt like heck. They say mild cramping like a period. I don't get cramps.... So having the Saline Ultrasound was a breeze. I was so surprise and relieved. I started taking my BCP on 3/18/08 and my last day is 4/4/08 so little under 3 weeks? Yeah the Portia is donated by the study..

Praying for a Miracle ~ Glad to see you found us here. It is really great to meet all the different people in this study. It is such a great support. There are people still getting into the study all over. Hoping all goes well for you.

Stressball ~ Glad you are back in. YEAH. . I take my BCP in the morning. When I was taking them at night before bed I would be sick all night. I have to have food on me and the mornings seem to be remembered better lol. When do you start your Lupron?


I am doing much better with the lupron. The BCP were what was causing my mood swings I think. So happy to be done with them tomorrow. The shots are going easy but the stupid alcohol swab I have to use makes me sick. Reminds me of a hospital and I always get sick when I got to a hospital because of the smell. lol. I have 13 days left before I go to Reno for IVF. IT is going to fly by.

[stressball]

Hi all,

Jack: congrates...so it was easy..good....my lurpron will start from the 13 th of April and 19 is the last day of the pills....yesterday I forgot to take my pill in the afternoon...so took it at night...god I kept waking up until 3...Iwill take it in the afternoon today...i dont know if i am supposed todo that or not....my ivf nurse is not available until tomorrow...

Indie: yes..its portia...driving for 2-3 hours to get to the clinic....hmmm..you are some courageous girl I know...

Indie and Jack: when I read your posts I literally feel that you guys are so well informed about the finanacial aspects and about the meds too...I do not even have my tx plan...i do not know how much is this going to cost me...i know it will be less....MY NURSE GAVE ME DATES AND NAMES OF THE MEDS ON THE PHONE...thats it...thats all I know right now...

Question for both of you:
1. When I did my previous ivf..I only took gonal F this time I am suppsed to take luveris...I dont know why and what does that do...any idea?????

2. I have not been told about bringing back the meds package....yet....

3. does Portia stops the ovulation?

Miracle: welcome....good that you are behind us..our experience would be your advice...