Anybody IVF progesterone ring study in Texas?

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Thank you Stress :) The psychologist asked my husband if he was just another one of my 'kids'....can you believe that! He said I was old fashioned to dote on my kids and my husband like I do, making him breakfast before he leaves in the morning, making him reminders for his meds...etc. It's who I am....plain and simple. But my husband...forget that LOL He sounds a lot like your husband, he can remember anything that he has planned, but on my end....I have to say "This is important to me, please don't forget...if you think you might forget and would like me to send you an email or call you, I'll do that....but don't forget!" That way I give him the option of having me bug the crap out of him, or he can figure out a way to remind himself....otherwise we'd still be on two different levels, as he's always been that way so I had to take matters in to my own hands. If I ever die, I pray that if he remarries she's a lot like me....I'm afraid I've ruined him for anyone else LOL

He is actually getting better though....you can't really change who they are, but you can help them to 'grow' a little :) Last week I asked him to pick up dog food on the way home, he was working right next door to the pet store where we buy their food. I didn't remind him....and guess what, he forgot :( Then this week he called and said he was working 45 minutes from home (where I buy my strawberries for making jam every May) and he said he'd saw I'd gotten my reminder card that the Strawberries were in and he wanted to know how many I needed and he'd get them for me.....WOW! So again, I'm not changing him....but I'm glad to see he does remember more than he did 15 years ago LOL

All truth be told...that 15-20 minutes for the trigger shot probably wouldn't have really made a HUGE difference, but those RE's and their nurse's make sure you realize it's very very IMPORTANT to get it at that exact time....so I would have been just as upset. I keep having to remind myself with my BCP's that I'm supposed to take them at 8:30 everyday....then I let up one day and took it at 8:15 LOL (wow, I know....I'm living on the edge!!) but I figured, what if my watch/clock is 10-15 minutes off from the RE's office so as long as I took it within 15 minutes before or after that 8:30 time I'd be fine. Again, not trying to 'change' myself...but trying to let go a little more throughout this whole process.

I think we've all learned to let go a bit more, if not a WHOLE lot more LOL through IVF. And that is in essence what life is about....growing and learning from our experiences....we have to atleast say we learned something from all we do, otherwise why did we do it? So we're learning to let go, patience, not being in control and being okay with that :) And so so much more. I'm so glad I came across this board and you ladies....you all are an inspiration to me :)
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Indie - I brought my sharps in to my nurse coordinator at my final visit. She said they definitely take them, so I'd check with your office.

Stay + I am so sorry, I really was hoping for some good news for you. It sucks that AF had to come early. I'll be thinking of you tonight. Be careful.. it hit me like a freight train in the next day or two. I holed up in a corner and didn't talk to anyone... I probably made things worse. I admire your ability to think beyond your next IVF. I was thinking of picking up some books on adoption myself, maybe you and Indie can be my inspiration. Take care of yourself.

Angram - I also have considered the support group many times, but resolve says there isn't one in our area. I thought about starting one, but I just couldn't do a good job in the midst of two jobs... maybe I'm being lazy, I know that most people that take these things on have alot on their plate. Then there was this hilarious notion that if I started this, I might get pregnant and I would feel bad for others there for infertility. Hmmm... I do wish we had a support group in my area, though. Friends and family, no matter how well-meaning, just can't understand. Did you mention where you live already?

Stress - I can not believe you had that experience with your last beta. Wow, I'm really angry for you. Um, they could have told you that, before you waited all day with your insides knotting up. Sorry, but WTF?
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Anybody IVF progesterone ring study in Texas?

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whynotus - I live in Austin, TX. You shouldn't feel bad at all that it's too much to take on starting a support group, working 2 jobs and dealing with IVF seems like plenty to me.

I'm so excited, AF has finally arrived and just 6 days behind her schedule :) I just left a message for my study nurse and asked if I could get in tomorrow to get BCP's and whatever else is needed to get the ball rolling. I called my DH on the way home from work and said I have great news, my cramps are horrible. He said umm, okay, that's great news? I said usually no, but today it is...we're so fickle :)
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whynotus - I live in Austin, TX. You shouldn't feel bad at all that it's too much to take on starting a support group, working 2 jobs and dealing with IVF seems like plenty to me.

I'm so excited, AF has finally arrived and just 6 days behind her schedule :) I just left a message for my study nurse and asked if I could get in tomorrow to get BCP's and whatever else is needed to get the ball rolling. I called my DH on the way home from work and said I have great news, my cramps are horrible. He said umm, okay, that's great news? I said usually no, but today it is...we're so fickle :)
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staying positive: I am so sorry to hear BFN. I know it must be really hard to keep going in the study- crinone and appts. Glad to hear you are already thinking ahead to July IVF and adoption!

Indie- I hated the way the BCP they gave us made me feel- I felt like they were probably a really strong, generic-y kind if that makes any sense...not the new, fewer side-effects ones that are probably on the market. I never refridgerated anything...the nurse told me not necessary unless the follistim was opened for longer than 30 days. I just threw away the needles...never thought to ask! oooppps... Also, except for the pill packet, I don't think you have to save or turn in any other meds except the ring or gel stuff. They said only return the stuff the study provides. And, I get up every morning at 5:00 am to make my husband breakfast...it's not old fashioned..just very sweet (he makes the bed- that's the trade off!) I am a morning person anyway and I usually can't sleep great once he's up, showering etc. I used to work out every morning at 4:30- that's how we met- at the gym...Lord knows that doesn't happen anymore!

Stress- :) hi Hope you are feelin better.
Angram & Stress- I lived in Autsin for nearly 6 years...in the 90's. Went to UT, graduated in 95...I'm 35...did y'all go to UT?

Don't freak out about the valium...if the other boards have such a high % of success, weren't they taking valium? I took it...and so did everyone else right...I don't think there is any conclusive evidence...I do think it's strange they would change so many things mid-study.

Stayingpositive...mayeb there's a national organization for infertitlity that could help you start a chapter in your area...what a wonderful gift to other women while also helping yourself.

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[quote="angram]I have great news, my cramps are horrible. He said umm, okay, that's great news? I said usually no, but today it is...we're so fickle :)[/quote]

LOL, I was the same way, when I called the RE's office I was almost shaking with excitement LOL I'd had my BCP's in my purse for a month and I was soooo ready to start them. And she was only a week late LOL which was really getting to me.
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beccatx wrote:Indie- I hated the way the BCP they gave us made me feel- I felt like they were probably a really strong, generic-y kind if that makes any sense... I just threw away the needles...never thought to ask! oooppps... Also, except for the pill packet, I don't think you have to save or turn in any other meds except the ring or gel stuff. They said only return the stuff the study provides. And, I get up every morning at 5:00 am to make my husband breakfast...it's not old fashioned..just very sweet (he makes the bed- that's the trade off!) I am a morning person anyway and I usually can't sleep great once he's up, showering etc. I used to work out every morning at 4:30- that's how we met- at the gym...Lord knows that doesn't happen anymore!

Don't freak out about the valium...if the other boards have such a high % of success, weren't they taking valium? I took it...and so did everyone else right...I don't think there is any conclusive evidence...I do think it's strange they would change so many things mid-study.

Rebecca
Makes sense about the BCP's :) I have never been on BCP's so I didn't know that they caused all this stuff. I hate to get up in the morning because my bb's hurt so bad LOL, they feel like they are falling off when I climb out of bed. As far as the sharps container, many of the other ladies said that they have taken them in to the RE's office and they dispose of them? If not, I have those other numbers that Freedom supplied that I'll call to pick it up, or give it to my husband to dispose of at one of the medical facilities he takes care of.

As far as the Valium, the other board said they thought it had more to do with recovery time then anything else. So don't worry about it :) They just said that with so many patients getting procedures, the Valium adds 45 minutes to the ET because you have to lay there for a while afterwards. Since you have to have a pretty full bladder during the procedure they say it's just more comfortable for everyone if you're able to get up right after the procedure and go to the restroom...etc. They will still give it to you (I think) if you ask for it, if you had a painful mock transfer...etc because of some special angle in your uterus...etc. So again, don't fret....I think it's more of a convenience change then anything. I don't know why or what the doctor said to make the other patient question getting it? No one on the other board answered that for me. [/b]
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why: I am glad that you are there for all of us and posting....

Becca: Got a qusetion...when was your poly removed? There is a study that says if the endometrium is distrubed by a biopsy or some procedure like polp removal...the implantation changce is higher the first 2-3 months...

to answer your qusetion: I did not study in UT....came here becoz of my DH job.

Angram: congrates...AF is here

Indie: I agree with becca that the BCPs we are getting through the study are very strong...previous IVF I had very few side effcts...just some heaviness in the boobies...but these BCPs produced more and stronger symptoms....wearing a tight and fully covered (that cover all the boob space) in the morning after bed might help...

Bcp might also delay your next AF..AND GIVE YOU SCANTY AF...

Me: its going to be a 5 day transfer...the embies are graded as level 2...that means 8 cell with frangmentation....the 5 day trasfer gives more hope to the people but I am depressed because thats what happened last time...eveything picture perfect...and then no implantation...but I am glad that atleast I dont have to worry two more days in 2ww. I am not feeling dizzy that bad anymore. I am looking forward to enjoy this weekend...next weekend I will be freaking out....peeing on those dollar sticks....
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Saty+: hang in there..less than 24 hours are left to test....
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Stress- my polyps were removed over 1 year ago...so I can't support that theory but it makes sense. We tried for 1.5 year with me having little tests (HSG?), polyps removed, hubby on Follistim and HCG, etc. We spent over 4000.00 on meds for him in 1 year...our insurance didn't cover any of it. That's how we did get to freeze some ok sperm though- otherwise we wouldn't be here- we did ICSY with the frozen sperm from that period last year. Thank goodness!

When is the transfer...Monday? You'll have beautiful blasts- I just feel it!
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Hi everyone - I'm so excited, had BW done today and get to start BCP's tomorrow :D I'm hoping this brand of BCP's aren't bad for me, but guess it's only a month so I can deal with it. I'm hoping the IVF nurse sends me my calendar next week, I just like to know what's coming up so I can sit here and ponder on it daily :)

stressball - That is great news on the 5 day transfer, I'm sending good sticky vibes your way!! BTW, is your IVF nurse April?

IndieBlue - Oh yeah, the week late thing on AF is horrible. Makes me laugh that most of the time we don't want to start and now we're just begging for her to arrive early! :)

beccatx - Wow, you get your DH to make the bed?? :) I actually went to A&M and then graduated from Park University in MO, but my DH is a UT alumni. Where do you live now?

Well I'm off to get some appetizers ready for wine night with our neighbors, hope everyone has a great weekend ahead!
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Yay Angram, that's a step in the right direction :)

On the other board a lady emailed the Duramed contact about joining the study and got an email back that it's now closed to new patients....so looks like we were all really lucky to get in when we did :)

I have 5 more days till my Lupron and Doxy start :), and yesterday I got an invitation to my niece's graduation...on the same exact day and it's at 7pm!!! We're supposed to take the Lupron around 8pm, so do we take it with us this first day LOL I guess I could go to the restroom during the middle of the ceremony and take it and then put it back in my purse?

I'm sure it's not the first time someone has not been home to take their Lupron, so what all did you girls do when you were out and about?

Well, off to make breakfast....just wanted to check in with you ladies!

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Becca: WOW, that's a lot on meds just for him. But what a year....glad you were able to freeze some sperm for ICSI :) So he knows first hand about the shots huh?

Why: Glad you're still here. Anymore thoughts? I'm glad to see you planning and taking some time to really think things through. YOu seem very level headed.

Stress: It'll be okay....this is your time!!! Don't think about what happened last time, this time is different and those numbers are going to work for you to get to that BFP. I will pray for you as you go through this weekend :) Get some REST!

Staying Positive: Still thinking of you :) Let us know when you have your follow up appointment and how things go.
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Yes, I'm still here! I'm too emotionally invested in all of you to leave now. I return to get good news. It keeps me sane, and feeling like this stuff does actually work...

Stress: 5 day transfer is good! I would have felt better if I had that. So that's fantastic news, even if that is what happened last time. That just means that you make great embryos that have a great chance of implanting, so this is your time!

Indie: yes, we are lucky to have been in this study. I was so stressed I would miss the cutoff that I developed heartburn for the first time ever! It miraculously went away the day I started BCPs. Ha!

Stress and Becca - I was hoping the polyp removal would help us out, too. I had one removed 1 week before retrieval. No such luck for me, but then again,my polyp was beneath the endometrial wall this time, so maybe my endometrium was disturbed too much? I have so many questions for my doctor, she's not going to know what hit her this Wed!

Angram - good news that things are moving along. I hope the bcp's go by fast!
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Good morning!
Indie- I wasn't so strict with my Lupron and stim shots- I took them anywhere from 6-9 pm- sometimes I had something going and knew I would be home until quite late then I took it before I left and 6 or 6:30...if it was Church or Bunko and I would get home around 9:00, I did it then. Otherwise I did it around 7:00 or 7:30 after dinner. I did the trigger at EXACTLY 8:00 when they told me...like stress, my DH wasn't quite as concerned as I was about the precsion of the moment!

Angram- we live in the DFW metroplex- Hurst-Euless-Bedford to be exact. I lived here prior to going to school in Austin and then came home after graduating because I had my first teaching job lined up for me...Austin was a little too much fun for me...I probably would have never worked! Both my younger siblings went there also and I still have a couple of really close friends- I was there in March visiting. I love Austin.

Have a great day!
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Becca...Thanks for thinking good about my blasts...they were nice last time too...one was hatching out and other started to....but the whole game is implantation...I was not too worried uptil now...but now again I am scared... when I failed last 2 times....I literally felt that ITS MY BODY NOT ACCEPTING THE EMBRYOS....Anyway....

Indie: I actually took the meds with me..it gave me peace of mind...and tried to take it within 30mins of range.....I would recommend to take it with you that way your mind would not wander...and right after the shot when you go meet people and be talking and stuff...you would even forget that you took a shot...dont leave the meds in the car though...it might be hot in there....

Why: My RE recommended treatment after a month of the biopsy...because biopsy is a shock for the endometrium....so may be when you try next time...your endometruim has recovered and ready to go...But also dont think that it might have caused the problem....because I really am not sure if my RE's theory is right or not....For me I always beleived that my endome is not fertile....since my blasts/ two times did not stick...and thats why I underwent biopsy....

Angram: Yes she is April...she is very sweet to talk to but she hardly talks..in the sense you have to ask qusetions to pull the information out...so keep calling her...she is there on Mon, Wed and Fri.

Stay+: we are thinking about you....because we all have been there...

Knr: Hope you are okay...and if not...its okay to be not be okay....feel what you feel right now....I remember after my FET...and BFN...that same day..my DH could afford to laugh during the 'funny vedios' and I thought how could he???? but then I remembered once OPRAH WINFREY said...that its not important how you fall...its important how you rise back up....

Me: I am not dizzy anymore..lil crampy after the crinone...and ladies Expect lot of blood work after ER too...I have to get one before ET tomorrow...unlike regular IVF...My ET is at 11....until then lets all try to smile and live the present..
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