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BECCA..ONE IMPORTANT THING...I KNOW UR RE IS OKAY WITH YOU RIDING A BIKE....BUT I HAVE HEARD THAT ITS NOT GOOD DURING THE FIRST TRIMESTER...WALKING IS ALWAYS BETTER...JUST FYI....
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Hi all,

I just saw a pikesh small lump of crinone pushed out my system. It look lil pinkish....

Stay+: did you experience this?

Indie do you know anything?
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stressball wrote:Hi all,

I just saw a pikesh small lump of crinone pushed out my system. It look lil pinkish....

Stay+: did you experience this?

Indie do you know anything?
I've heard that the Crinone gel irritates a lot of women....and by the time you're off of it, it feels raw down there and irritated like you've had a really really bad infection in your hoohah. So I'm sure that could cause some bleeding/spotting. I know that with the ring a lot of ladies in the other group are having some mucous type pink discharge. And those that aren't said that when they remove the ring and wipe it, that it's got pink type discharge on it too....so again I think that the progesterone probably causes a lot of this. Most RE's aren't concerned unless it's bright red bleeding that is constant and heavy, or filled with clots. I'm sure you're fine :)
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Post by angram »

Hi Stress - Just posted to the other thread too, but I also had the Crinone issue last cycle. It sometimes was on the end of the applicator and other times came out in clumps, was totally disgusting. It's even worse when you're completely done with using it, after several weeks of build up. I wouldn't be concerned, but if you're really worried give the RE a call. It also made me really sore, pretty much to the point of where I thought I had a yeast infection or something. It's quite irritating to the vajajay :)
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Thanks Indie....
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stress and baylorbear - I agree with indie - I think progesterone can cause these things in general - I was sore, too and now that I think about it, I had some slight discharge discoloration when I changed rings.

becca and Indie - Thanks for posting about your exercise. I exercise like a fiend, and have since my teens. Lots of running, triathlons (so biking, swimming too). I do not do marathons when we are TTC, but you get the idea. My point: I started reading all these studies that say a history (like, in the past decade!) of cardio exercise negatively impacts IVF success. So I am glad you exercised and still got your BFP, Becca. Shows me exercise is ok, like my doctors said all along... sorry for the ramble, but it is a really confusing issue with me right now and I don't know what to do. I started exercising a little after my BFN - physically I feel so much better, but is it right? Is it wrong? I live for exercise, but I would gladly give it up if I thought it would help.

Stress - hang in there! All those signs sound good to me! Almost there. Sounds like you are going to POAS this weekend? Scary-exciting-yay! I totally hear you wanting this to work out for DH. That was the hardest part for me this cycle - facing that this might not work seems so unfair for my husband. It was the only thing that made me upset. I will be sending positive thoughts your way.

Indie and Angram - I have a hard time believing most infertility is lack of sex - If only! - in five years, not a month has passed without thoroughly covering 3 days before and after and during ovulation. WE'd have had a litter by now. Plus, almost everyone has a diagnosis.

Now - frozen cycles. I am positive they told me it was covered in the beginning. I was so excited, and DH was there, too. Since Indie heard that too, I think they changed their policy! And all of the clinics are doing something so different! Some pay for freezing, some pay for storage... most recently, ours told us Duramed paid for cryopreservation but not storage. Why the differences? And my RE was the one who told me the frozen cycle would be covered. Ugh! $6500 so far... let me cough up some more for the FET. I don't even know how much that is! Suddenly, this study isn't so inexpensive anymore, ya know?

Indie - What is this about reimbursement? Huh? I heard of no such thing. Just another difference between clinics? We are lucky we have a clinic in town, but I swear, I have not heard of a more expensive clinic, ever. And I've looked.

Indie - yes, we found out more about FET, thanks for asking. I start BCP's on day 4, should get AF on 5/23. Estimated transfer on 7/7. That leaves me lots of time to get my hopes really, really high, which is what I'm most afraid of. But I guess that is good... I keep thinking of my frozen little embies. I want to rescue them from that awful freezer. I hate the cold.

Baylorbear - wow! Your beta is soon! You just have to get through the weekend, and hopefully it will go by fast for you (but not for me!).

Hang in there, ladies!
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Hi whynotus...I wanted to repsond to your exercise fear. I read a similar study saying that women who regularly exercised many hours a week for many years are LESS likely to conceive...I freaked! The only sense I could make of it is women who are very low body fat and maybe not as regular in their cycles...professional athlete types or exercise compulsion type people? I do not exercise as much now as I have in the last 5 years, but I do run, have done a couple of marathons in the last 3 years, and weight train very consistently and fairly vigorously (DH is a trainer and professional athlete). I am not underweight at all, and I do not have low body fat (nor am I overweight). I'm just normal now, but used to be very fit/lean (miss those days!)

The RE telling me not to exercise was like a blow to me...I LIKE to exercise and I fear getting too heavy and out of shape making it harder after pregnancy. I will however do ANYTHING to take care of this pregnancy so I am listening to him (and Stress:)) and to be honest I am so tired now- it's easy to skip the gym after work. Not to mention my husband won't train me now anyway. I will take some low-impact areobic/toning classes at the rec center this summer unless I'm told not to. I just feel better when I exercise- mentally and physically.

Anyway- point is I do exercise very regularly and did get the BFP so I hope that rests your mind about it...but don't overdo it and always listen to your body (and Dr.) :)
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Thanks all,

Angram:

I did not cramp since the ET....and now suddenly I cramped almost all day...did that happen to you too...and also back ache is new....were you breasts more tender in the evening than morning?
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Stress: I had cramps and backache :) I think it sounds like you're doing good! One night I had to heat a rice buddy it was so bad. Lay down and RELAX.

Lord, help Stress to trust in your plan for her- give her peace and and a sense of security in knowing the creator of life has her and her body in His hands. Give her reassurance and hope as you knit a little one togther in her womb.
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Wow, you gals are busy posting :) Well, I just gave myself my 2nd shot...YAY! Last nights was so much easier as we left the graduation....I guess I was just so nervous and trying to hurry before we got to the graduation party that I just stabbed myself and then plunged it in LOL Tonight I had too much time to think about it LOL Oh well, it's done....yay!

Husband called today to tell me that he wasn't going to take the Doxycyclin pills anymore as they made him sick!!!! Umm, you are too!!! LOL I laid it out tonight for him and he took it...but then again we had an argument earlier so he's probably trying not to make waves and he'll put up a fight again Monday.

Stress So looks like the spotting is pretty regular...as Angram and everyone else said :) So no worries! Did you POAS yet? If you get an early negative...do not be disappointed....it's still really early since this study test 5 days before the other regular IVF cycles.

Why Wow you are a really big exerciser :) Kudos to you! I don't exercise a lot....well I exercise every day but I don't do big things like marathons and training...etc. We walk or run every other day and then on our 'off' days we just play around here, or I might throw in a Taebo DVD...etc. I probably needed to do more....I've gained a lot of weight in the last year. But when I stopped working it all just sort of piled on :( Talking about the FET being covered...it is very disappointing as my husband heard that part as well and he keeps bringing it up. Just today he said, well if this cycle doesn't work we can go straight to the FET, right...or do you want to wait? I was like...ummmm, we'll wait LOL I think a normal FET is somewhere around 4000 isn't it? Or is it more than that? I'd think without the meds it wouldn't be too bad...but then again?

Oh and on the reimbursement...from talking to other ladies from all over the country it seems that our clinic is the only one doing it this way? We get paid 150.00 per visit. Sadly visit 1 doesn't start until you return to the office for your baseline ultrasound :( So as I said before...if you only make it to Beta you've only gotten 750.00 back :( and not the 1500 she said....I think that is wrong. She told me it was 1500 at completion of the study....so I think that even if you get a BFN you should still get what they said. Seems there was a lot of confusion with these offices and what they covered and how it was covered...etc. Sad we have to deal with the mess though.

Becca: That's neat about your husband being a trainer....I'll bet that does keep you in shape :) I'd be his worst nightmare LOL I still think that further along in pregnancy you need to do some exercise though....that labor and delivery is like a marathon in itself and you have to be fit :) Walking is good for now though, I wouldn't do anymore than that....just enjoy being pregnant! Sounds like hubby has the right idea too....since he's stopped training you!

Well, off to bed :) Busy day tomorrow....we took another trip to the garden center and we have to get our veggie garden going too, we're late and I won't be able to do much digging and twisting next week so I'm trying to get everything planted so then all I have to do is prune, water and weed :) I got 3 roses planted tonight....I was so happy as I LOVE roses and have always had lots in my yard until we moved, it was depressing not being able to work in my roses so this is GREAT! Nice stress reliever. I'm so glad that hubby 'forced' me to get them...LOL You guys have a wonderful weekend!
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IndieBlue - I applaud you for giving yourself shots! I tried the first cycle and ended up staring at my belly for 20 minutes, trying to work up the courage. Needless to say, I woke up DH and he's done them ever sense :)

stressball - I was only bloated and sore boobs from the ER/ET (think it was progesterone), so I think cramps and backache have got to be good :) Keep the PMA and know it's your time.

whynotus - I don't really agree with the lack of sex/infertility statistic, as we also cover all days around ovulation, and DH believes multiple times will help as well...whatever :) Our diagnosis is unexplained, since he's a "rockstar" per my RE and so far I produce several eggs as well, although not as many last time as I had hoped. We'll see how things go this next cycle. I have no idea what a FET costs, but I would think it would only be a few thousand, since there aren't as many meds and no ER.

beccatx - How's the BFP treating ya, all going well?

Why - That's great you get in so much exercise, maybe you could share some of your energy :) I have every intention of going for a run, but when the alarm goes off sleep sounds better and by time I get home from work, food is on the brain. I did pretty well up to my BFP last May, but have seriously declined since then and the meds have not helped my rear in any way :)

Nothing really new for me today. Finally got a call yesterday that they're putting together my schedule, so I should get that sometime late next week. Still taking the BCP, although I'm feeling much better as the days go by. Have had a killer headache, but pretty sure that's all the darn allergies we have going on around Austin.

Hope everyone is having a terrific Saturday and I'm looking forward to hearing about all the upcoming BFP's!!
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Hello all... I just wanted to share my good news... I finally POAS this morning and got a positive result. My DH and I both cried. I am 8dp5dt. I already bought two more HPT's for tomorrow and Monday just to be sure. My BHCG is on Monday 5/19, so I'm really hoping my numbers are good and will continue to progress. Please let me know how you all are doing.
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Congrats Baylor....you're Pregnant!!! YAY
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Baylorbear - wow! congratulations!!!!!!!! What a fantastic day... so glad you have your BFP. Rest and enjoy!

Who's next?

Angram and Indie- I thought it was good to exercise all these years, but I'm not so sure now. My doctors have always said I am not underweight and I always get AF, but it looks like now that may be a hinderance to IVF, not a help. All your life you are told exercise is good. Ugh!

Indie - it's great you get reimbursed. I wish we all had the same deal, though. I have no idea how much our FET will be, but I'll bet it will be on the high end. I swear someone changed their mind about this FET being covered.

Stress - Here's your mantra: cramping is good. tender breasts are good. back ache is good. bring it on, embies!

Becca - thanks for making me feel better about this exercise thing. I also considered that study included women that were crazy fit. But it was large - what are the chances that there were that many women that had body fat low enough to affect their hormones? I really don't know what to do - I've been running for 18 yrs. It is just part of who I am. Ugh. Sorry to be so dramatic, but this is a tough decision for me. Crap.
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Congratulations Baylor! Now new waiting begins...betas, US, etc. It's fun, but almost as nerve-wracking. I'm happy for you!
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