Indie- I think it is just up to the embryologist what day the transfer is on and what other factors the couple is dealing with. We have MFI so maybe our chances of getting to 5DT are less in a petri dish.
A girl in another BG I am in that goes to GRS, just had a 3DT & she has endo and no male factor. It just all depends on the embryos.
Why are you worried?
Thanks everybody for the well wishes!
Anybody IVF progesterone ring study in Texas?
Telli- I really can't answer your question, but my DH has severe male factor- in the tens of thousands (not mil), but we had some frozen from last year when he was taking lots of meds and he got up to around a million. Even though that's still very low, our Dr. said, it only takes one and that was enough to freeze for IVF ICSY).
We qualified because of the frozen I thought, but at ER, they still made him do fresh sperm sample and of course it was useless, they had to use frozen, which one vial did not thaw well, they made him give more"fresh" later the same day, and then thawed 2nd vial and called when they located some that were waking up!
At one point when we could not get any good sperm, the whole thing felt like a huge waste- I got my eggs all ready and there was nothing to fertilize them with...I'm sure this is the concern with your situation, but it seems to me if my DH at 1 mil frozen was ok, your DH should be ok with fresh at a higher count. I guess they worry it may not happen on the day necessary and there's no frozen to back you up. They would have to do ICSI I assume...is that the problem?
Hope this helps and really hope you get to stay in!
Good luck!
We qualified because of the frozen I thought, but at ER, they still made him do fresh sperm sample and of course it was useless, they had to use frozen, which one vial did not thaw well, they made him give more"fresh" later the same day, and then thawed 2nd vial and called when they located some that were waking up!
At one point when we could not get any good sperm, the whole thing felt like a huge waste- I got my eggs all ready and there was nothing to fertilize them with...I'm sure this is the concern with your situation, but it seems to me if my DH at 1 mil frozen was ok, your DH should be ok with fresh at a higher count. I guess they worry it may not happen on the day necessary and there's no frozen to back you up. They would have to do ICSI I assume...is that the problem?
Hope this helps and really hope you get to stay in!
Good luck!
beccatx
Thank you so much for your help! He has his first appointment to freeze a sample in a couple of weeks and if they can split that one in to two then he won't have to give another but if not, then they will take another one plus he'll do the fresh sample the day of ER. I think she may have just been worried or something, I don't know; I just wish she would call and let me know...it was a long night! We're just at the beginning stages of all of this, I'm waiting for af so I can start BCP's (my pap wasn't ready last time so we had to wait). We will def. be using ICSI. Thanks again for your help!
Thank you so much for your help! He has his first appointment to freeze a sample in a couple of weeks and if they can split that one in to two then he won't have to give another but if not, then they will take another one plus he'll do the fresh sample the day of ER. I think she may have just been worried or something, I don't know; I just wish she would call and let me know...it was a long night! We're just at the beginning stages of all of this, I'm waiting for af so I can start BCP's (my pap wasn't ready last time so we had to wait). We will def. be using ICSI. Thanks again for your help!
Karen Good luck today!!! I'm not really worried about what day they do it....but since the 3dt are not blast yet, I'm afraid of that. I guess that is why they transfer 1 more....to even out those 3dt versus 5dt.
Telli01 Good luck....we don't have male factor so I'm really not sure what the protocol is. I really hope you still make it in the study though....that's kind of how everyone that I've talked to said it went. The very first visit you get the study number, pink book, sign consents...etc and then you're not even in it until the baseline and all the pre-testing....kind of misleading.
Angram Today's prank was the radio guy calling a 24 hour laundry place and he said he owned a 24 hour chicken placed called "Cluck You chicken" or something 'off' like that LOL He said his ovens and such had went down and he wanted to know if he could bring this BIG catered order of chicken in and keep them warm in their dryers.....LOL He was asking how hot they got, and if he could just put them in there for a low setting, like a tumble/wrinkle setting LOL Too funny.....I can't believe they can keep a straight voice/face when talking to these people.
Well, my visit was uneventful. I have a 13.5, 11 and 9 on the right and some smaller ones she didn't measure and then on the left I have a 13, 12, 11, 10 and two 9's. She said she'll see me back Sunday or Monday and then maybe I'll go for ER on Wednesday or Thursday
So now I have to scrounge up some more GonalF as I only have enough for 3-4 more shots. Will this never end!!!! Oh and my arms have quit giving blood...so now they've had to move to the top of my hands We did get Dunkin Doughnuts on the way home though LOL, that makes it a bit easier. Oh and my lining was 10.4 and she said B+? Not sure what the B+ was for...maybe my lining?
Telli01 Good luck....we don't have male factor so I'm really not sure what the protocol is. I really hope you still make it in the study though....that's kind of how everyone that I've talked to said it went. The very first visit you get the study number, pink book, sign consents...etc and then you're not even in it until the baseline and all the pre-testing....kind of misleading.
Angram Today's prank was the radio guy calling a 24 hour laundry place and he said he owned a 24 hour chicken placed called "Cluck You chicken" or something 'off' like that LOL He said his ovens and such had went down and he wanted to know if he could bring this BIG catered order of chicken in and keep them warm in their dryers.....LOL He was asking how hot they got, and if he could just put them in there for a low setting, like a tumble/wrinkle setting LOL Too funny.....I can't believe they can keep a straight voice/face when talking to these people.
Well, my visit was uneventful. I have a 13.5, 11 and 9 on the right and some smaller ones she didn't measure and then on the left I have a 13, 12, 11, 10 and two 9's. She said she'll see me back Sunday or Monday and then maybe I'll go for ER on Wednesday or Thursday
So now I have to scrounge up some more GonalF as I only have enough for 3-4 more shots. Will this never end!!!! Oh and my arms have quit giving blood...so now they've had to move to the top of my hands We did get Dunkin Doughnuts on the way home though LOL, that makes it a bit easier. Oh and my lining was 10.4 and she said B+? Not sure what the B+ was for...maybe my lining?Me: 34 DH: 37
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Indie- your report sounds great! If you have ER on Wed, then Monday night would be your trigger, if it's Thurs for ER, then Tuesday night trigger. Do you take shots on that night also? I didn't. So maybe you won't need that much extra....Even if ER was on Friday, Wed would be trigger and possibly Tuesday last shots.
My highest lining was 7.8 or maybe 8.0....I was worried about that, but I knew the trigger would raise it some more too. I never knew it on the day of ET??? Maybe it did increase.
I did get into the fertility clinic today for a sonogram....everything is fine. I was pretty worried this morning when I changed rings, because there seemed to be tissuey stuff mixed with old blood. They squeezed me in for peace of mind and all is well. I'm 9 weeks today and I could see litlle arms and leg buds...I was laughing out loud (like a crazy woman) with relief and joy. It looked like he was dancing! Praise God.
Happy Friday!
My highest lining was 7.8 or maybe 8.0....I was worried about that, but I knew the trigger would raise it some more too. I never knew it on the day of ET??? Maybe it did increase.
I did get into the fertility clinic today for a sonogram....everything is fine. I was pretty worried this morning when I changed rings, because there seemed to be tissuey stuff mixed with old blood. They squeezed me in for peace of mind and all is well. I'm 9 weeks today and I could see litlle arms and leg buds...I was laughing out loud (like a crazy woman) with relief and joy. It looked like he was dancing! Praise God.
Happy Friday!
Becca Awww, too cute. That's amazing that you got to see the little arms and legs forming, most people don't get to see the sonogram until months in to the pregnancy so I'm thankful that with IVF they do one early 
I went ahead and got 2 more vials of 450 (which have around 675 in them) so that'll get me through if I have to stim up through the week. I have 1 and 1/2 vials left....so I'll be pushing it for Monday, but my appt is Monday so if I keep stimming I'll just have to tell them my vials won't be here until Tuesday so maybe they can spot me one and I'll give them one of mine at ER LOL
My grumpy husband called and said he really really needed to know what days to put in for vacation so I told him probably Wednesday or Thursday. He blurted out, well I have a call Friday at 5am that can't be changed! I said fine, I'll just use a sperm donor!!!! Why does this have to be like pulling teeth...one day he's excited and telling me how many little eggs I must be growing and then he's telling me that he can't rearrange his schedule so it better not be Friday that I need him Oh and the other night he said 'there better only be 1 in there!!!!'...WHAT??? Just the tone he said it made me so mad.....I just went to bed after that! I've given myself all the shots, had to deal with him griping through the doxy pills and now this! You should have seen his attitude at the psychologist though, like total opposite. He mentioned me being the person that handled all the 'stuff' and he'd be happy when we had a baby, he jokes often about this and that about a baby...etc. I just don't understand the night and day reactions he has and it's not helping my stress level.
I went ahead and got 2 more vials of 450 (which have around 675 in them) so that'll get me through if I have to stim up through the week. I have 1 and 1/2 vials left....so I'll be pushing it for Monday, but my appt is Monday so if I keep stimming I'll just have to tell them my vials won't be here until Tuesday so maybe they can spot me one and I'll give them one of mine at ER LOL
My grumpy husband called and said he really really needed to know what days to put in for vacation so I told him probably Wednesday or Thursday. He blurted out, well I have a call Friday at 5am that can't be changed! I said fine, I'll just use a sperm donor!!!! Why does this have to be like pulling teeth...one day he's excited and telling me how many little eggs I must be growing and then he's telling me that he can't rearrange his schedule so it better not be Friday that I need him
Oh and the other night he said 'there better only be 1 in there!!!!'...WHAT??? Just the tone he said it made me so mad.....I just went to bed after that! I've given myself all the shots, had to deal with him griping through the doxy pills and now this! You should have seen his attitude at the psychologist though, like total opposite. He mentioned me being the person that handled all the 'stuff' and he'd be happy when we had a baby, he jokes often about this and that about a baby...etc. I just don't understand the night and day reactions he has and it's not helping my stress level.Me: 34 DH: 37
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Hey, I was going to ask you if you got the paperwork on the Embryo grading/Day of Transfer? She gave all that to me today, just because I'm getting a bit closer and it explains why they do a 3dt over a 5dt. It said that if they can determine development by day 3 that they don't see any reason for waiting till day 5....so it looks like your little embabies were star performers and they could distinguish which ones they wanted to transfer before day 5.....YAY!karen266 wrote:Indie- I think it is just up to the embryologist what day the transfer is on and what other factors the couple is dealing with. We have MFI so maybe our chances of getting to 5DT are less in a petri dish.
A girl in another BG I am in that goes to GRS, just had a 3DT & she has endo and no male factor. It just all depends on the embryos.
Why are you worried?
Thanks everybody for the well wishes!
Hope you're home resting now! Did they give you valium? It says in the paperwork that if they don't give valium that you can drive yourself....I think I might do that if it's on a weekday.....if they don't give me valium that is.
Me: 34 DH: 37
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
telli01 - We are unexplained infertility, so I have no idea the many reasons they could give us for disqualification. Good luck to you!
IndieBlue - Sorry to hear you still have a few more days of stimming, how many has it been so far? Eww on the top of hand blood draw, but I've always wondered why they never use the hand, mine have better veins than anywhere else. Both of my arms have always been great, but my right arm seemed to totally disappear during the last round and all b/w came from the left. Your radio station seems hilarious, although I always get so uncomfortable when I hear prank callers. I always feel so bad for the other person and I could never do something like that with a straight face, I'd be cracking up.
Oh yeah, wanted to comment on the grumpy DH. Most days my DH is great about everything, but for some reason everything goes down hill as soon as we start the big meds. I think it's the lack of sex towards the end of stimming that starts getting to him and he gets pissy at every little thing, and it always seems to happen at the RE office. People say women are the moody one's, but I'm pretty sure my DH gets a little PMSy during the cycling Keep your chin up and he'll be so happy as soon as you're pregnant with your little peanut.
Karen - How'd things go today, hope you're doing well.
beccatx - What a relief to get an u/s and see everything is ok, that is great news!
Well I took my last BCP today and now on the hunt for AF DH and I spent the day at car dealerships, buying and selling. I'm totally jazzed and ready to have a slightly less gas bill. Other than that, just totally ready for the weekend. Happy Friday ladies!
IndieBlue - Sorry to hear you still have a few more days of stimming, how many has it been so far? Eww on the top of hand blood draw, but I've always wondered why they never use the hand, mine have better veins than anywhere else. Both of my arms have always been great, but my right arm seemed to totally disappear during the last round and all b/w came from the left. Your radio station seems hilarious, although I always get so uncomfortable when I hear prank callers. I always feel so bad for the other person and I could never do something like that with a straight face, I'd be cracking up.
Oh yeah, wanted to comment on the grumpy DH. Most days my DH is great about everything, but for some reason everything goes down hill as soon as we start the big meds. I think it's the lack of sex towards the end of stimming that starts getting to him and he gets pissy at every little thing, and it always seems to happen at the RE office. People say women are the moody one's, but I'm pretty sure my DH gets a little PMSy during the cycling
Keep your chin up and he'll be so happy as soon as you're pregnant with your little peanut.Karen - How'd things go today, hope you're doing well.
beccatx - What a relief to get an u/s and see everything is ok, that is great news!
Well I took my last BCP today and now on the hunt for AF
DH and I spent the day at car dealerships, buying and selling. I'm totally jazzed and ready to have a slightly less gas bill. Other than that, just totally ready for the weekend. Happy Friday ladies!Me 38 - DH 34
IVF#2 - BFP 6/29
IVF#2 - BFP 6/29
I'm not on this board but I had to reply.
Karen : I love the pictures of your embies ...really made me smile...thanks for sharing. Stick embies stick !! Good luck to you.
Karen : I love the pictures of your embies ...really made me smile...thanks for sharing. Stick embies stick !! Good luck to you.
40 years young
1 ovary shy of a pair
IVF #1 May 08- chemical
Ivf #2
ER: 08/24 ET: 08/29 3 blasts :-)
BETA (10dp5dt)~ 275 Beta#2(12dp5dt)~ 720
MC @ 10 weeks.
1 ovary shy of a pair
IVF #1 May 08- chemical
Ivf #2
ER: 08/24 ET: 08/29 3 blasts :-)
BETA (10dp5dt)~ 275 Beta#2(12dp5dt)~ 720
MC @ 10 weeks.
Angram Thanks for the input on husbands attitude. He's making me so irritated that I just want to do the rest of it alone, but I know that I can't do that and it wouldn't be very nice LOL But if my scan shows twins I am sooooo not telling him until labor and delivery LOL I also hear ya on the prank caller thing....funny that the people on the other end usually start laughing though...so obviously they know it's a prank after a few minutes. They have one contest where you can win Sex in the City movie tickets if you call your husband at work and he agrees to leave from work and come home for some nookie. Now that was painful to listen to. One woman was trying everything she could, but she'd said no to her husband off the night before....so he was angry and kept saying 'well you should have thought of that last night'. Painful LOL What kind of car did you get?
Karen So happy for you....two cute little embabies. I'm sending you some sticky vibes....when is your Beta? Oh and I see that you say praying 'THEY' stick....so you've given in to the idea of twins? YAY!!!
Karen So happy for you....two cute little embabies. I'm sending you some sticky vibes....when is your Beta? Oh and I see that you say praying 'THEY' stick....so you've given in to the idea of twins? YAY!!!
Me: 34 DH: 37
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Tubal Factor IF
1st IVF cycle May/June 2008
Beta #1 6/18 BFN
2nd IVF cycle July 2009
Chemical Pregnancy at 7weeks
Re: Anybody IVF progesterone ring study in Texas?
stressball wrote:Hi,
I got a call from the clinic that I have to do prelim exam to see if I qualify. Anybody participating in this study in Texas.
Hello,
We just found out that we were accepted to the same study. However, we live in New England are our clinic is Boston IVF. I have been reading all of the posts on this topic. I found it really helpful to have the calendar color coded on Excel!
This study is a huge help to us financially because our health insurance does not cover IVF. However, if we lived in MA then it would be free (that doesn't seem fair). So, the study makes the IVF free and I called the pharmacy yesterday. We are only going to have to pay $20 for all the meds. We were told that it could cost up to $3500. So, our only expense is ICSI (we have male factor) and freezing of embryos.
We hope that IVF works the first time, but it doesn't then we are out of the study. However, we will have the embryos frozen so we won't have to pay for that expense (and I won't have to go through all the shots again).
I would love to hear some success stories of people who were in this study and had male factor (used ICSI). Anyone out there?
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Hi all,
I am feeling really bad that I could not be with you all for past 3 days. My internet at home was not working and I did not go to work on Thurs and Frid.....sorry again..
Me: I had my 4th beta on Thurs.....a lil background I had cried my eyes out on thurs. because the nurse did not call me with the results at 12....usually if its a good news she calls before 12....I thought it was over....then I called her at 1.30 and she told me she had not gotten any results yet....but she sensed the tension in my voice and asked me to come for a sono...later at 3 she called me that my numbers went to 3000 something.....
I did not even hear after the number 3000....god...I felt so releived......I had not eten that day...rushed and ate a big meal....then went for sono....and can you beleive this...I sac a sac....I was hurting really bad on Wed. on right side....thoought it was ectopic.....but I SAW THE SAC IN THE UTERUS.....RE said it did not look like an ectopic...and also ectopic pain when it comes it does not go away....another breath og releif......Man...what a crazy day.....I got soooo tired at the end of the day that I just went home ate...watched tv and slept....That day for the first time my DH held my hands when I told him the story of the day and spend 2 whole hours with me.....
Indie: My heart goes out for you....your DH sounds soooo much like me....day and night....but you are right...this is the time when you need him...not for emtional stuff but for real stuff like being there for the injections etc....
But You got to beleive me....I went though the same path...and what I learned from this is that....somebody got to work and get the money in......Your DH might have some people waiting on his work...thats why he said what he said.......I am sure he will be there when time comes.....
Please Indie...one more thing...anger makes us do stupid things....for example (I have many though)....I day I got my first HCG and official BFP...I fought with my DH becoz he was more worried for his dad than being happy for us....and you you what I did...I lifted the garage door becoz I did not want his help.....and the my second beta did not double...and I thought I killed my babies for which I was working so hard...I have a feeling you are walking on my path.....so please take it easy.....Go tell DH that its really not in your hands....and then tell him that him telling you that he is busy makes you feel that you are less important....when you know thats not true....Promise me you will do that..
Now about the Valium...again....do not drive yourself...whether you take valium or not....rest is important atleast for a day after trasfer....dont do things that make you regret later...
Indie...you were there when I felt low...but I was not...please forgive me...I just told God that you will the best mother....and so please help you in the process....he will surely be there....
Did I tell you that I cried in front of the god for hours on Thurs. and actually held his picture in my hands when unerdgoing sonogram....
Karen:
Beautiful...8 cell..is perfect....2ww is hard but easy when we.....your friends are around...
Becca:
Wow you saw the arms and legs.....soooooo sweet...you are living all of ours dream......GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.....somedays I feel very hungry and other days not that hungry.....did you feel the same in you 5-6th week....
Angram: unexplained inefrtility sucks....but it has good pronosis....I have a feeling that you will get BFP.....
I am feeling really bad that I could not be with you all for past 3 days. My internet at home was not working and I did not go to work on Thurs and Frid.....sorry again..
Me: I had my 4th beta on Thurs.....a lil background I had cried my eyes out on thurs. because the nurse did not call me with the results at 12....usually if its a good news she calls before 12....I thought it was over....then I called her at 1.30 and she told me she had not gotten any results yet....but she sensed the tension in my voice and asked me to come for a sono...later at 3 she called me that my numbers went to 3000 something.....
I did not even hear after the number 3000....god...I felt so releived......I had not eten that day...rushed and ate a big meal....then went for sono....and can you beleive this...I sac a sac....I was hurting really bad on Wed. on right side....thoought it was ectopic.....but I SAW THE SAC IN THE UTERUS.....RE said it did not look like an ectopic...and also ectopic pain when it comes it does not go away....another breath og releif......Man...what a crazy day.....I got soooo tired at the end of the day that I just went home ate...watched tv and slept....That day for the first time my DH held my hands when I told him the story of the day and spend 2 whole hours with me.....Indie: My heart goes out for you....your DH sounds soooo much like me....day and night....but you are right...this is the time when you need him...not for emtional stuff but for real stuff like being there for the injections etc....
But You got to beleive me....I went though the same path...and what I learned from this is that....somebody got to work and get the money in......Your DH might have some people waiting on his work...thats why he said what he said.......I am sure he will be there when time comes.....
Please Indie...one more thing...anger makes us do stupid things....for example (I have many though)....I day I got my first HCG and official BFP...I fought with my DH becoz he was more worried for his dad than being happy for us....and you you what I did...I lifted the garage door becoz I did not want his help.....and the my second beta did not double...and I thought I killed my babies for which I was working so hard...I have a feeling you are walking on my path.....so please take it easy.....Go tell DH that its really not in your hands....and then tell him that him telling you that he is busy makes you feel that you are less important....when you know thats not true....Promise me you will do that..
Now about the Valium...again....do not drive yourself...whether you take valium or not....rest is important atleast for a day after trasfer....dont do things that make you regret later...
Indie...you were there when I felt low...but I was not...please forgive me...I just told God that you will the best mother....and so please help you in the process....he will surely be there....
Did I tell you that I cried in front of the god for hours on Thurs. and actually held his picture in my hands when unerdgoing sonogram....
Karen:
Beautiful...8 cell..is perfect....2ww is hard but easy when we.....your friends are around...
Becca:
Wow you saw the arms and legs.....soooooo sweet...you are living all of ours dream......GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.....somedays I feel very hungry and other days not that hungry.....did you feel the same in you 5-6th week....
Angram: unexplained inefrtility sucks....but it has good pronosis....I have a feeling that you will get BFP.....
TTC since Jan04
32, DH 36 low count, motility
natural IUI 3, -VE
injectable IUI 2, -VE
1st IVF May june 07: bfn
fet: july:bfn:
2nd ivf April 08 BFP
32, DH 36 low count, motility
natural IUI 3, -VE
injectable IUI 2, -VE
1st IVF May june 07: bfn
fet: july:bfn:
2nd ivf April 08 BFP
Stressball: I'm so relieved to read your last post...I was really worried about you...and now sooooo happy for you ! You got me all emotional....
WOW ! what a day for you and such an incredible surprise. I can still feel the excitement in the way you write. You deserve this so much and now just enjoy every minute of it !
Congrats again and you will stay in my thoughts.
Valerie
WOW ! what a day for you and such an incredible surprise. I can still feel the excitement in the way you write. You deserve this so much and now just enjoy every minute of it !
Congrats again and you will stay in my thoughts.
Valerie
40 years young
1 ovary shy of a pair
IVF #1 May 08- chemical
Ivf #2
ER: 08/24 ET: 08/29 3 blasts :-)
BETA (10dp5dt)~ 275 Beta#2(12dp5dt)~ 720
MC @ 10 weeks.
1 ovary shy of a pair
IVF #1 May 08- chemical
Ivf #2
ER: 08/24 ET: 08/29 3 blasts :-)
BETA (10dp5dt)~ 275 Beta#2(12dp5dt)~ 720
MC @ 10 weeks.