Hi Dagny
I've just been reading your message to Caroline about breastfeeding. Are you giving birth at East Surrey Hospital? When I had my two there, I was the only person on the ward breastfeeding so the staff there are obviously very supportive of ladies who take the decision to bottlefeed. They were also really supportive with the problems I had breastfeeding my son. (Apologies if you're not going to East Surrey and I've just given you completely irrelevant advice!)
Jules
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TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Hello Jules
Yes I am having my baby at East Surrey Hospital and It's good to know that there is no pressure. I am really undecided on the whole breast feeding thing but I will make a decision as and when I have to. Where abouts do you live? I know your notes say near Gatwick but which side?
Thanks for your message
Love Dagny x
Yes I am having my baby at East Surrey Hospital and It's good to know that there is no pressure. I am really undecided on the whole breast feeding thing but I will make a decision as and when I have to. Where abouts do you live? I know your notes say near Gatwick but which side?
Thanks for your message
Love Dagny x
Hi Dagny
We're in Crawley, so the other side of Gatwick to you.
I think you're right to have an open mind about breastfeeding. Initially I was devastated when I had to give up breastfeeding Daniel 'cos he wasn't taking to it but ultimately it proved to be the right decision for both of us. But until you're in that situation, you just don't know what's going to happen.
All the best.
Jules
We're in Crawley, so the other side of Gatwick to you.
I think you're right to have an open mind about breastfeeding. Initially I was devastated when I had to give up breastfeeding Daniel 'cos he wasn't taking to it but ultimately it proved to be the right decision for both of us. But until you're in that situation, you just don't know what's going to happen.
All the best.
Jules
TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Hi Jules 
Were you under any of the Gynae specialists at ESH? I have got an appointment with Mr Penny this afternoon and was wondering what he was like. The midwife was going to refer me to Mr Pipe and I put my foot down as I had a bad experience with him. There is nothing wrong with him personally but after an initial consultation with him and my hystereosalpinogram he should have refered me straight away to the Mayday but 3 months later he still hadn't.
The fertility team at the Mayday actually contacted him themselves to ask why my notes hadn't been sent over and his secretary said she didn't know where they were. Eventually they found them under a load of crap in his office. I went mad 
down the phone at her and the she said 'Oh I know how you feel dear' The hell she did, in her 60's with 3 kids and numerous grand children. 
Aaaaaaarrrrggg!!
Sorry for that rant, have you had to deal with Mr Pipe? I hope mr Penny is better. I will speak to him as well as my midwife about breast feeding and also about the fact that my hair is falling out big time. My bedroom floor is covered and everywhere I sit I leave a load of hair. My DH is going mad with my hair in the plug hole and all over the bedroom and bed. I thought your hair didn't start to fall out until after giving birth. At this rate I won't have any!
Hope you and Charlotte and Daniel are well.
Love Dagny x
Were you under any of the Gynae specialists at ESH? I have got an appointment with Mr Penny this afternoon and was wondering what he was like. The midwife was going to refer me to Mr Pipe and I put my foot down as I had a bad experience with him. There is nothing wrong with him personally but after an initial consultation with him and my hystereosalpinogram he should have refered me straight away to the Mayday but 3 months later he still hadn't.
The fertility team at the Mayday actually contacted him themselves to ask why my notes hadn't been sent over and his secretary said she didn't know where they were. Eventually they found them under a load of crap in his office. I went mad down the phone at her and the she said 'Oh I know how you feel dear' The hell she did, in her 60's with 3 kids and numerous grand children. Aaaaaaarrrrggg!!Sorry for that rant, have you had to deal with Mr Pipe? I hope mr Penny is better. I will speak to him as well as my midwife about breast feeding and also about the fact that my hair is falling out big time. My bedroom floor is covered and everywhere I sit I leave a load of hair. My DH is going mad with my hair in the plug hole and all over the bedroom and bed. I thought your hair didn't start to fall out until after giving birth. At this rate I won't have any!
Hope you and Charlotte and Daniel are well.
Love Dagny x
Hi Dagny
Sorry I don't know either Mr Pipe or Mr Penny. I had all my infertility appointments at Crawley or Horsham although DH had all of his appointments at East Surrey. It sounds as though all of the consultants are as bad as each other though. We had several bad experiences with Miss Abayomi and when I was asked if I wanted her as my consultant throughout my pregnancy, I rapidly declined (not that I saw a consultant for the whole 39 weeks!).
I don't think that pregnancy hair loss is that unusual but I did lose lots for more than a year after giving birth so I hope you don't have the problem as long as that.
Take care.
Jules
Sorry I don't know either Mr Pipe or Mr Penny. I had all my infertility appointments at Crawley or Horsham although DH had all of his appointments at East Surrey. It sounds as though all of the consultants are as bad as each other though. We had several bad experiences with Miss Abayomi and when I was asked if I wanted her as my consultant throughout my pregnancy, I rapidly declined (not that I saw a consultant for the whole 39 weeks!).
I don't think that pregnancy hair loss is that unusual but I did lose lots for more than a year after giving birth so I hope you don't have the problem as long as that.
Take care.
Jules
TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Hi Jules
I have just got back after waiting over an hour over our appointment time and we didn't even get to see Mr Penny! There were 3 people who we could see and anyone of them could have called us in including Mr Pipe! I would have gone mad if that had happened. We saw a registrar who made me feel like I was a typical neurotic first timer. I explained that I was worried all the time that my baby was going to desert me no matter how many weeks I was and he said just because it was an IVF baby it was a normal pregnancy and not to get so het up in so many words. I reminded him that to me I was a bloody miracle I was here and that I had endured 3 years of hell and this was no sodding ordinary pregnancy to me. And for his information it is ans ICSI pregnancy, not that it made any difference to him. He wobbled on a bit more about c-sections v natural births and that was about it. I am so cross. I don't know what I was expecting but I feel a bit let down. He said that they wouldn't normally see me unless I went over due but as I was having the odd pains to come at 28 weeks and 34 weeks.
On a more positive note he did a short scan and we got to see the baby. I was sure I saw a willy!! David didn't notice but then again it was on a small screen and not the best scanner. We will have to wait till June.
Hope you had a better day.
Love Dagny x
I have just got back after waiting over an hour over our appointment time and we didn't even get to see Mr Penny! There were 3 people who we could see and anyone of them could have called us in including Mr Pipe! I would have gone mad if that had happened. We saw a registrar who made me feel like I was a typical neurotic first timer. I explained that I was worried all the time that my baby was going to desert me no matter how many weeks I was and he said just because it was an IVF baby it was a normal pregnancy and not to get so het up in so many words. I reminded him that to me I was a bloody miracle I was here and that I had endured 3 years of hell and this was no sodding ordinary pregnancy to me. And for his information it is ans ICSI pregnancy, not that it made any difference to him. He wobbled on a bit more about c-sections v natural births and that was about it. I am so cross.
I don't know what I was expecting but I feel a bit let down. He said that they wouldn't normally see me unless I went over due but as I was having the odd pains to come at 28 weeks and 34 weeks.On a more positive note he did a short scan and we got to see the baby. I was sure I saw a willy!! David didn't notice but then again it was on a small screen and not the best scanner. We will have to wait till June.
Hope you had a better day.
Love Dagny x
Hi Jules
I have just got back after waiting over an hour over our appointment time and we didn't even get to see Mr Penny! There were 3 people who we could see and anyone of them could have called us in including Mr Pipe! I would have gone mad if that had happened. We saw a registrar who made me feel like I was a typical neurotic first timer. I explained that I was worried all the time that my baby was going to desert me no matter how many weeks I was and he said just because it was an IVF baby it was a normal pregnancy and not to get so het up in so many words. I reminded him that to me I was a bloody miracle I was here and that I had endured 3 years of hell and this was no sodding ordinary pregnancy to me. And for his information it is ans ICSI pregnancy, not that it made any difference to him. He wobbled on a bit more about c-sections v natural births and that was about it. I am so cross. I don't know what I was expecting but I feel a bit let down. He said that they wouldn't normally see me unless I went over due but as I was having the odd pains to come at 28 weeks and 34 weeks.
On a more positive note he did a short scan and we got to see the baby. I was sure I saw a willy!! David didn't notice but then again it was on a small screen and not the best scanner. We will have to wait till June.
Hope you had a better day.
Love Dagny x
I have just got back after waiting over an hour over our appointment time and we didn't even get to see Mr Penny! There were 3 people who we could see and anyone of them could have called us in including Mr Pipe! I would have gone mad if that had happened. We saw a registrar who made me feel like I was a typical neurotic first timer. I explained that I was worried all the time that my baby was going to desert me no matter how many weeks I was and he said just because it was an IVF baby it was a normal pregnancy and not to get so het up in so many words. I reminded him that to me I was a bloody miracle I was here and that I had endured 3 years of hell and this was no sodding ordinary pregnancy to me. And for his information it is ans ICSI pregnancy, not that it made any difference to him. He wobbled on a bit more about c-sections v natural births and that was about it. I am so cross.
I don't know what I was expecting but I feel a bit let down. He said that they wouldn't normally see me unless I went over due but as I was having the odd pains to come at 28 weeks and 34 weeks.On a more positive note he did a short scan and we got to see the baby. I was sure I saw a willy!! David didn't notice but then again it was on a small screen and not the best scanner. We will have to wait till June.
Hope you had a better day.
Love Dagny x
Hi Jules
I have just got back after waiting over an hour over our appointment time and we didn't even get to see Mr Penny! There were 3 people who we could see and anyone of them could have called us in including Mr Pipe! I would have gone mad if that had happened. We saw a registrar who made me feel like I was a typical neurotic first timer. I explained that I was worried all the time that my baby was going to desert me no matter how many weeks I was and he said just because it was an IVF baby it was a normal pregnancy and not to get so het up in so many words. I reminded him that to me I was a bloody miracle I was here and that I had endured 3 years of hell and this was no sodding ordinary pregnancy to me. And for his information it is ans ICSI pregnancy, not that it made any difference to him. He wobbled on a bit more about c-sections v natural births and that was about it. I am so cross. I don't know what I was expecting but I feel a bit let down. He said that they wouldn't normally see me unless I went over due but as I was having the odd pains to come at 28 weeks and 34 weeks.
On a more positive note he did a short scan and we got to see the baby. I was sure I saw a willy!! David didn't notice but then again it was on a small screen and not the best scanner. We will have to wait till June.
Hope you had a better day.
Love Dagny x
I have just got back after waiting over an hour over our appointment time and we didn't even get to see Mr Penny! There were 3 people who we could see and anyone of them could have called us in including Mr Pipe! I would have gone mad if that had happened. We saw a registrar who made me feel like I was a typical neurotic first timer. I explained that I was worried all the time that my baby was going to desert me no matter how many weeks I was and he said just because it was an IVF baby it was a normal pregnancy and not to get so het up in so many words. I reminded him that to me I was a bloody miracle I was here and that I had endured 3 years of hell and this was no sodding ordinary pregnancy to me. And for his information it is ans ICSI pregnancy, not that it made any difference to him. He wobbled on a bit more about c-sections v natural births and that was about it. I am so cross.
I don't know what I was expecting but I feel a bit let down. He said that they wouldn't normally see me unless I went over due but as I was having the odd pains to come at 28 weeks and 34 weeks.On a more positive note he did a short scan and we got to see the baby. I was sure I saw a willy!! David didn't notice but then again it was on a small screen and not the best scanner. We will have to wait till June.
Hope you had a better day.
Love Dagny x
Hi Dagny
Oh I love our local hospitals! That sounds SO familar. I was booked in to see our consultant every 4 weeks from 16 weeks and never did for one reason or another; usually we had a long long wait before someone announced that he was too busy to attend! And I don't think they have a clue about how important our pregnancies are to us.
How exciting that bubba may be a boy. Have you got any names for him (or her if you didn't quite catch the right angle!)?
Are you still off work? You're always welcome round here should you wish to hear the scary details of raising ICSI babies!
Take care.
Love Jules
Oh I love our local hospitals! That sounds SO familar. I was booked in to see our consultant every 4 weeks from 16 weeks and never did for one reason or another; usually we had a long long wait before someone announced that he was too busy to attend! And I don't think they have a clue about how important our pregnancies are to us.
How exciting that bubba may be a boy. Have you got any names for him (or her if you didn't quite catch the right angle!)?
Are you still off work? You're always welcome round here should you wish to hear the scary details of raising ICSI babies!
Take care.
Love Jules
TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Morning Jules
I have just noticed that my last message came through 3 times!!! My computer was playing up and kept on disconnecting.
It would be great to meet up and to meet your little twins. If you email me you phone number I will give you a buzz and we can arrange something.
My DH said there is no way I saw a willy as the scanner was too small and it was probably the cord or something. We have chosen a name but we are keeping it safely under our hats for supersticious reasons.
Did you get the excuse for snow last night which has all but gone now?
Hope you're well
Love Dagny x
I have just noticed that my last message came through 3 times!!! My computer was playing up and kept on disconnecting.
It would be great to meet up and to meet your little twins. If you email me you phone number I will give you a buzz and we can arrange something.
My DH said there is no way I saw a willy as the scanner was too small and it was probably the cord or something. We have chosen a name but we are keeping it safely under our hats for supersticious reasons.
Did you get the excuse for snow last night which has all but gone now?
Hope you're well
Love Dagny x
when i read stories like your appointment with the registrar it
makes me mad :evil:, normal pregnancy my ass.... as u said
they realy havnt got a glue and especially in your case what
u have gone thru to get that dream of a +itve.
have to say im now 8wks (still cant believe im saying it)
and im still wrapping myself in cotton wool totaly bored
stuck at home but i will do anything.
Anyway at least u got to see the little one again which must
be wonderful.
alisonn
makes me mad :evil:, normal pregnancy my ass.... as u said
they realy havnt got a glue and especially in your case what
u have gone thru to get that dream of a +itve.
have to say im now 8wks (still cant believe im saying it)
and im still wrapping myself in cotton wool totaly bored
stuck at home but i will do anything.
Anyway at least u got to see the little one again which must
be wonderful.
alisonn
[quote="alisonn"]when i read stories like your appointment with the registrar it
makes me mad
normal pregnancy my ass.... as u said
they realy havnt got a glue and especially in your case what
u have gone thru to get that dream of a +itve.
have to say im now 8wks (still cant believe im saying it)
and im still wrapping myself in cotton wool totaly bored
stuck at home but i will do anything.
Anyway at least u got to see the little one again which must
be wonderful.
alisonn[/quote]
makes me mad
normal pregnancy my ass.... as u saidthey realy havnt got a glue and especially in your case what
u have gone thru to get that dream of a +itve.
have to say im now 8wks (still cant believe im saying it)
and im still wrapping myself in cotton wool totaly bored
stuck at home but i will do anything.
Anyway at least u got to see the little one again which must
be wonderful.
alisonn[/quote]
Hi Dagny
We've got a thin covering of snow - not enough to let Daniel and Charlotte play out in unfortunately.
I hope that I've sent you a PM with my 'phone number on but never having done it before, I may have done something wrong - probably. You'll have to let me know if you don't get it and I'll try again (or you could send me an e-mail).
Jules
We've got a thin covering of snow - not enough to let Daniel and Charlotte play out in unfortunately.
I hope that I've sent you a PM with my 'phone number on but never having done it before, I may have done something wrong - probably. You'll have to let me know if you don't get it and I'll try again (or you could send me an e-mail).
Jules
TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Dagny
I've just read your post - poor you honey! Sillly @rse of a man! I guess he was trying to reassure you, but ended up just pissing you off. It might be just another normal pregnancy to him, but we are all feel very priviledged to be pregnant at all and therefore we think our babies are very special miracles -indeed they are!!!
Try to forget about him and if you feel unsure about anything get back on the phone to them. Do you not have a community midwife aswell as a consultant? I see my midwife for a general check-up in between my monthly scan/consultation with my consultant. This way I see someone every fortnight and don't feel quite so alone.
You are allowed to choose what ante-natal care you have, you don't have to settle for what is offered, if you are not happy, there may be an alternative. Why don't you speak to your gp?
I know everywhere is different, I just think its so unfair, that I'm inundated with appointments and yours refuse to see you and when they do they upset you!!! I'm still in regular contact with my fertility nurses (even though I don't need to be!) but if I'm unsure about anything I can give them a call too - would yours be any good?
If not, then you'll just have to settle for us lot! We'll give you as much support and say all the right things as we can!!!
Take care honey, don't let some silly @rse spoil a single second of your wonderful pregnancy!!!
love nikola.xxx
I've just read your post - poor you honey! Sillly @rse of a man! I guess he was trying to reassure you, but ended up just pissing you off. It might be just another normal pregnancy to him, but we are all feel very priviledged to be pregnant at all and therefore we think our babies are very special miracles -indeed they are!!!
Try to forget about him and if you feel unsure about anything get back on the phone to them. Do you not have a community midwife aswell as a consultant? I see my midwife for a general check-up in between my monthly scan/consultation with my consultant. This way I see someone every fortnight and don't feel quite so alone.
You are allowed to choose what ante-natal care you have, you don't have to settle for what is offered, if you are not happy, there may be an alternative. Why don't you speak to your gp?
I know everywhere is different, I just think its so unfair, that I'm inundated with appointments and yours refuse to see you and when they do they upset you!!! I'm still in regular contact with my fertility nurses (even though I don't need to be!) but if I'm unsure about anything I can give them a call too - would yours be any good?
If not, then you'll just have to settle for us lot! We'll give you as much support and say all the right things as we can!!!
Take care honey, don't let some silly @rse spoil a single second of your wonderful pregnancy!!!
love nikola.xxx
Hello
Jules
How cool is that personal message thing? I didn't even know we could do that. I will give you a call in the next few days and getting to Crawley is fine for me as long as I have good directions. Hope you had a good day.
Alisonn
Thanks for your post. I too have wrapped myself up in cotton wool and bubble wrap for extra protection. I think sometimes the registrar's just say anything to you without thinking and go home to their cosy little lives. My baby is SPECIAL, all our babies are, so BOG OFF any doctor who wants a fight!!
Nikola
When I go back for my 28 week appointment I will ring up and tell them I want to see Mr Penny otherwise I will go mad. I am sure there are warning signs by my name not only at Redhill hospital but Mayday too as I have always given a load of grief to anyone who pi$$es me off!!
Yeah I can go and see my midwife or should I say my midhusband as he is male. He is as gay as a lord but lovely from all accounts. I haven't met him yet as he has only just taken over. My next door neighbour has just has a baby and I saw him mince in there the other day with his beautifully highlighted hair. I don't have any problems with gay men as I worked with loads of them when I was an air hostess and they are such lovely guys. Great senses of humour and really kind. DH is not too sure though. I will give him a call and make an appointment soon.
My fertility team would be happy to help me with any concerns but I feel a bit like I shouldn't call them too much as they are so unbelievably busy. I was told I could have the baby there (Mayday- Croydon) but it takes 45 mins to get there on a good day and I felt it was safer to be at my local hospital. I kind of wish I had taken them up on the offer as I think a hospital who does IVF is obviously a lot more tuned in to what we go through to get PG.
Like you so rightly said I have got the support from all you wonderful girls and I really do think if I hadn't found this board I would have lost the plot by now. I so appreciate everybodies help and support.
Thanks everyone
Lots of love Dagny xx
Jules
How cool is that personal message thing? I didn't even know we could do that. I will give you a call in the next few days and getting to Crawley is fine for me as long as I have good directions. Hope you had a good day.
Alisonn
Thanks for your post. I too have wrapped myself up in cotton wool and bubble wrap for extra protection. I think sometimes the registrar's just say anything to you without thinking and go home to their cosy little lives. My baby is SPECIAL, all our babies are, so BOG OFF any doctor who wants a fight!!
Nikola
When I go back for my 28 week appointment I will ring up and tell them I want to see Mr Penny otherwise I will go mad. I am sure there are warning signs by my name not only at Redhill hospital but Mayday too as I have always given a load of grief to anyone who pi$$es me off!!
Yeah I can go and see my midwife or should I say my midhusband as he is male. He is as gay as a lord but lovely from all accounts. I haven't met him yet as he has only just taken over. My next door neighbour has just has a baby and I saw him mince in there the other day with his beautifully highlighted hair. I don't have any problems with gay men as I worked with loads of them when I was an air hostess and they are such lovely guys. Great senses of humour and really kind. DH is not too sure though. I will give him a call and make an appointment soon.
My fertility team would be happy to help me with any concerns but I feel a bit like I shouldn't call them too much as they are so unbelievably busy. I was told I could have the baby there (Mayday- Croydon) but it takes 45 mins to get there on a good day and I felt it was safer to be at my local hospital. I kind of wish I had taken them up on the offer as I think a hospital who does IVF is obviously a lot more tuned in to what we go through to get PG.
Like you so rightly said I have got the support from all you wonderful girls and I really do think if I hadn't found this board I would have lost the plot by now. I so appreciate everybodies help and support.
Thanks everyone
Lots of love Dagny xx