February Cycle Buddies (FCB's)

Discussion group for all topics related to infertility including preparation for pregnancy, causes, investigation and treatment of infertility.
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Magnus
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Post by Magnus »

Hi guys,hope its not too late to join feb cycle buddies.
This is also my second go,last one in Oct too!!!!
I have changed clinics so am keeping everything crossed.
Am 36 with endo ttc for 2 years ,first attempt made it to blastocyst stage but sadly no implantation,so here we go again.
I feel a bit stronger this time,kinda know whats coming,you might have to remind me of that later.
I didn,t know about this board first time around so would really like to post during this attempt,everyone seems so supportive.
Anyways guys sorry for the ramble,looking forward to chatting to all of you
Best of luck
Magnus x
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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Girls

Hope you are all well. I had a scan yesterday as was supposed to start my injections but my womb lining is still too thick (what a lovely thought), so although I had a zoladax injection at the start of the month they have given me Suprefact (buserelin) to inject from now till my injection that matures the eggs. I am going back on Thursday for another scan and to start my other injections, I'll be like a pin cushion by the end of this. Still its not all bad as though I can't wait to get started it means I can go to London with 6 of my friends to visit my best friend next weekend. It should be a good laugh just have to obstain from the Bacardi Breezers but I can laugh at the rest of them.

Bel, you still melting in your hot weather, you sure you've not got a little fancy for the guy you keep flashing at, if it happens again you should try a swimsuit instead. :lol:

Jane, hows the sniffing going? Weird? You do feel like a druggie constantly sniffing and pawing at your nose?

Loopy, how are you, I was on the OCB's with you last time.

Magnus, glad to here from you, lets hope we can all help each other remain positive through this, I found the site a great help last time.

Hope you've all got nice weekends planned, I'm having a tv night tonight, the last series ot Sex in the City starts tonight :( and tomorrow I'm going to watch the football up in Dundee then going out for dinner here in Edinburgh to the same place we had our wedding in (sure its a reward from my husband for not losing my hormonal temper :evil: with him for at least a week, shame).

Speak to you all soon.

Wendy
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Hey fanstastic chicks,
Welcome Magnus, really is an OCB reunion for us girls isn't it? Know what you mean about the support on this site, I find it really helpful and just love logging in to check up on everyone!, who knows, one day I could be a top ten poster!! :lol:
Wendy, definately no go with the friend of my brothers I have flashed at twice, he is rather hairy (though sweet) and my dh really is such a doll. I agree, a new swimsuit could be the go! Sounds like you're up for a good weekend of wining and dining. Why can't you start injecting with a thick lining?, I thought that was good for implantation? :?

Loopy, how is the sniffing and injecting going? us ex-OCB girls are heading for lots of big fat positives, I can just feel it!

Well all, keep up the PMA, I'm off to a 21st tonight, then flying back to Brissy tomorrow, back to work and real life (and off the beach unfortunately) :cry: :( :cry:
Chat soon
Belinda
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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Belinda

Not 100% sure about the womb lining thing, my understanding is they want you to be fully downregulated before starting the next set of injections to create the eggs. The lining thickens up over the time between these injections and the embryo transfer, assume maybe it does thicken a great deal so it needs to be thin to start, think the lining also shows that its my body still controlling things rather than the doctors. They say it may take longer for downregulation because of the endo. I know that I'm more than happy to follow what they say.

Well you make sure you enjoy your last day of freedom before going back to work but be careful of those waves :wink:

I'm just about to get ready to go to Dundee and the weather is minging, its raining but cold so away to hunt out my warmest clothes. So much for me looking forward to watching sex & the city last night, I fell asleep on the sofa and missed half of it.

Speak to you all soon

Wendy
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Post by BelB »

Hey Wendy,
That makes sense re. the lining, I guess they want the pitruatry gland to be completely inactive and the thickening lining probably indicates that it is still exerting some level of control?, I agree, we need to just go with what the clinics tell us, I guess they've done this lots before and they know what they're doing.
Hey FCB's, I did a bit of looking back last night over the 39 pages of this message board, there are a whole lot of positives out there, and a whole lot of women that have come before us and are now on the "other side". Here's to getting over there really soon!
Take care all
Belinda
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Hi FCB's,
Hi Belinda, Wendy, Magnus, LoopyLou, Susan and July Ann ......
Hope you all had a good weekend.
After reading on this site that people are having acupuncture, I went along to Dr China on Friday. Spent £450.00 on herbs and 7 sessions of acupuncture. Can't believe it cost that much (thats a price of a last minute holiday for 2 to Europe (well bennidorm!).
The herbal tea is absolutely disgusting (I really have to fight the gags).
The only thing worrying me about the acupuncture is that they put a hot lamp on your tummy. Is this allowed? Because we aren't allowed baths or hot showers? Any advice anyone?
I am feeling a bit guilty about still having a bit of alcohol. Had 2 halfs lager yesterday and a half at lunch today. Is this allowed?, as I have it in my head that it really maters in the 2ww, or am I being dumb. :?

Wendy - Good Luck on Thur with the scan.
Magnus - welcome to FCB's
Belinda - you are making me very jealous with your beach life ... GEt Back To Work!!
LoopyLou - as I've been a bit of a stalker on this site for a few months, I can remember your OCB boards. Lots of +++++ive for this go.

Can't believe the weekend has gone already :( . i'm already in my pyjamas ready for bed!
Keep posting girls ........
From Sophie-Jane
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Hi ladies

Well its nearly Monday again and I can only take comfort in the fact that Belindas holidays are over and she has to go back to work rather than lying on the beach.

Hope you all had a good weekend, I was a bit indulgent when my hubby took me out for dinner on Saturday, three courses of really rich food and a couple of glasses of wine, it was fab. If I get to start my injections on Thursday that'll be me being very careful with what I eat.

Sophie Jane, like you I feel guilty about what I'm eating and drinking just now but I think thats its far more important to be careful after the transfer and I'll also be strict once I start the injections. I've already stopped with too much diet coke, hardly drink alcohol, I eat healthily, so I think that the odd chocolate bar and the very odd glass of wine is okay just now. Your acupuncture treatment sounds interesting, how long will you be doing that far? Do you do it through your ivf cycle?

What do you mean about hot baths and showers? Are we not supposed to apply any heat to our tummies, I used a wheat bag on mine after the egg retrival last time as was in pain. Never heard anything about this before?

Well hope you all had good weekends, speak to you all soon.

Wendy
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Post by fi »

hi guys,

can i join in :)

should be sniffing for drug assisted FET for 4th attempt on the 21st feb, so et if they made it would cross into march, been ages since we last cycled - aug so desperate to get going

look forward to getting to know you all!
love fi
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Post by july ann »

hi girls

looks like there will be a few of us doing tmt in feb. I have got to wait till af arrives which will be in two weeks the di after that. No drugs which is great.

well I used a heat bag after et as i had a really sore tummy, then I read about not puting heat on your tummy as it could damage the embryo.

I have often thought about what to eat or drink while doing tmt. On my first 2 goes I had given up drinking and smoking for a year. Had two big fat negatives. Well could not take any more and started drinking and smoking, started tmt cut down still a negative. I even lost two stone in weight. still negative...The last tmt were much easier than the first two as I was more relaxed.

well I have friends who got pg when they were pi--ed and who smoked when they were pg. I do not agree with smoking whilst pg.
I think what will be will be.We all have to get through this the best way we can. Just take one day at a time...


well good luck girls and try and stay positive, just read my thread back hope I have not gone on to much.

from july ann
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Hi all,
welcome fi
Will need to get some clarification on the hot tummy thing. I think it is just for the 2ww, but I really don't know. Alisonn posted me and said that heat on the tummy is good, up until the 2ww.
There are so many do's and don'ts that I think it could just stress us out more (July Ann - I think you are right. My partner agrees with you, he thinks the best thing is just to relax and not think that everytoime you want a drink or something to eat you have to think of whether it will harm the cycle. As you said people get pregnant who are completely abusing their bodies. I worked in child protection social work and saw that most days.
However saying that, I am still trying to do everything by the book (except the odd drink now and then). But its early days, and I might relapse .. especially where chocolate is invovled. I'm wearing a nicotine patch when I go out to the pub, as I haven't still got over the craving of nicotine. Only gave up New Year (after strting again after I found out I couldn't conceive naturally - how daft is that?).

Wendy = I've booked up for 7 weeks of acupuncture to last all through the cycle, 7 weeks ... meant to get the body (womb, uterus etc) all in cinq. They really seemed to know what they were talking about when I went for the consultation. They said that women have it for morning sickness and labour pains so is OK to have it in the 2ww as well.

I'm still worried I'm not sniffing correctly as the liquid in the bottle is not going down that fast. I've been doing it for 7 days and still got well over half the liquid left ((I'm on Suprefact Buserelin). Is this normal? Might also call into the clinic tommorrow to check. would hate to get to my first scan and find out I haven't been doing it properly. Mind you, not sure how I could do it wrong. I only have to push down on the bottle and sniff. (stressing for nothing maybe?).
Anyway, waflling again. Off to watch eastenders.
From Sophie Jane.
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Hey gals,
Well back to work for me today, is all rather sad :cry: :cry: , is also raining here in Brisbane today, so am really back to earth with a thud.
Welcome Fi, can understand your impatience, I am madly waiting for af (why is she slow when you're keen for her to arrive??) and just want to get started on blood testing for my natural FET which should happen this month..COME ON AF!!!!!!!!
Jane, I used heat after my egg pick up, I had a really sore tummy, and heat was fabulous, I checked this with my clinic and they advised that this was a good thing and not dangerous for the embryo or future sccess or otherwise. After embryo transfer, we were told that the embryo's are very heat sensitive, so no heat packs, no baths, my clinic even advise to shower without the water running onto your tummy (I showered backwards!), so the 2ww is the time to be careful.
July Ann, looks like you and I are waiting for af together, I'm actually a bit late this cycle, I did the HPT (I should buy shares in this company), it was negative, I'm sure the stress of moving house, my fatehr in law being in hospital etc (all happened prior to our beach holiday) didn't help! I started accupuncture yesterday, evidently my pitruatary gland is quite sluggish, the horrendous herbs and needles should help, we'll wait and see hey?
Wendy, your dinner out with dh sounds just lovely, am all for a few glasses of red and soem wonderful food, relaxation is very important through this IVF process I reckon! Is your scan this Thursday?
To all the fantastic cycle buddies, PMA hey?
Belinda :D :D :D
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Post by wendy30 »

Hello everyone

I am fascinated with all the talk of heat on your belly, this is my 4th attempt and I've never heard anything about this before. I used my wheatbag a lot as I was sore for ages after the egg retrival and I'm sure I spent most of my time in the bath. I plan to ask what they know about it at the hospital on Thursday. I wish they would just give you a big list of do's and don'ts, even if it ended up 20 pages long and you had to survive for a month on milk, water and broccoli and be smelly cause you had to give up baths and showers. At least then nobody would want you to do anything.

Does anyone have any other things to add to our ever extending list
No caffine, no alcohol, no shellfish, no eggs, no mayo, no nuts, no chocolate?????, no heat, no frozen drinks, no ironing, no hoovering, no essential oils, no toxic cleaning things, no aerosols, no nail polish. All that said nearly 80% of the people I know who had no problems getting pregnant were steamin drunk at the time. I'm sure there must be a huge rise in birth rates in Scotland 9 months after hogmany.

Well thats my manic hormonal rant for the day, of to have another bit of chocolate before I go to bed.

Belinda & Fi hope your af arrives soon (feels mean wishing for that when normally its the last thing you want)

Sophie Jane, I'm sure your doing your sniffing right, keep going with that and your lovely herbs.

July ann, the two weeks will be up in no time and it must be better with no drugs turning you into a raving monster like me.

Magnus, Loopy & Susan hope your all doing ok.

Sorry for the rant. Speak to you all soon, the chocolate is calling me.

Wendy
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Post by BelB »

Hey Wendy,
Know what you mean about wanting a list of do's and don'ts, I have found more information on this site than most other places. My clinic advised:
1. No heat on tummy after ET (including showering backwards!)
2. Limit chemical exposure (no hair colouring, smelly perfumes etc)
3. No alcohol
4. No seafood
5. No undercooked meats
6. Drink lots of water and milk
7. Getting dh to do all of the ironing, vaccuuming, grocery shopping, bill paying etc etc etc (though I'm sure is OK to clothes and handbag shop!)
I know what you mean about alcohol as well, msot of my friends have found out their pregnant (not trying to of course!?!?!), and then madly look back on their alcohol antics hoping that all is OK with the bubby.
Chat soon gals
Belinda :)
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Post by Magnus »

Hi Girls,can't believe how many of us there are,its fab having all this knowledge to hand.
Belinda that list of do's and dont's is good and I definately think handbag and shoe shopping is allowed in fact probably encouraged!!!!!
I start sniffing on 14th,I injected last time so hopefully this is a little easier!!!! :lol:

Jane I am also having acupuncture this time round,have read such good reports so figured its worth a go,really calms me down as am bit of high enegy nutter most of the time!!!
Is anyone doin yoga or gym? am not sure whether to stop or not.
Anyway best if luck to all of you
Big +ve cybervibes
xxMagnus
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Hi all,
Checked with the clinic today and been told not to stress about the sniffing, that I must be doing it right.
It all seems to be costing so much. I got a bill through today for all the scans and blood tests that are coming up £660.00. Then ivf (ec & et) is £2,700.00 plus the drugs (about £700.00). This is £4,000.00, add another £500.00 for acupuncture etc. Is anyone else paying this much.
We will only be able to afford 2 goes.
What hurdles there are heh .... seems so unfair.
RANT RANT RANT ...... (and no alcohol, cigarette or chocolate or money for retail therapy to calm me!! :x ).

Well we've got a good list of do's and don'ts going. You've missed off No sex and orgasms.
Dp still doesn't believe me that its no hoovering ( i have of course extended this to empting the dish washer, hanging out the washing, cleaning the bath and toilet).... we've got to have some positives from all this.
Belinda and July Ann - HURRY UP AF - (ps: does af mean awful friend?)
Magnus - I went to a steps class today for the first time in ages. As I'm trying to eat well (having breakfast, lunch, dinner, milk, protein etc etc) I'm porking on the pounds.

Speak to you all soon.
Love from Sophie-Jane.
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