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Post by socal »

Hi Everybody,
SoCal here, I have been offline for almost a year, last September I got a BFP and then miscarried. I am trying again, and just had a retrieval this week, they got 4 eggs, and we will see what happens. Nive to be back on the message board and conrgratulaitons to everybody who is getting BFP! And Best of Luck to everybody who is trying!
Lind
me 45 dh 49
7 IUI's/4 4 BFP w/miscarriages, 3 BFN 2004-2005
1st IVF 14 embryos 1/2006 Baby born 10/11/06
2nd IVF 8 embryos 8/31/07 BFP, ended in m/c
3rd IVF 2 embryos cycle started 8/2/08, ended in m/c no heartbeat
IUI 12/4/08 BFP
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Good morning Ladies! :D

Yasmina-Sorry to hear your Ob lacks a little warmth in the personality dept.

NY4thtry-Sorry to learn of your news. I wish I had more encouraging information for you. Try to keep that PMA going. I believe new eyes on your case may provide a new path of tmt for ya'll.

Socal-glad to see you're back. I'm so sorry to hear of the mc last year. Wishing you all the luck on this cycle, lots of PMA sprinkled with baby dust. Fingers crossed~PMA, BFP :)

Now for my update. I've been on an emotional rollercoaster where the end is not in sight at the moment. I had my ENT visit on Monday and they wanted a better luck and consult with other docs so went in yesterday for scope evaluation. Sadly the growth in my left nostril is so big they could not get the scope past the growth to see how far back it may penetrate. By scoping the right nostril they are confident it does not at this time reach back to the back of the nose. However, it was clear to the first ENT that the growth had grown since she saw it on Monday :( So, all the docs are pretty worried over the growth now, and hence so are DH and myself. My face is becoming a bit distorted around the nose area because of the growth. The docs feel that it most likely is a pyogenic granuloma, 'pregnancy tumor', but without actually taking it out for analysis they can not say with 100% confidence that indeed it is. There is a chance it is something else. So, the current plan is to have a cat scan next week to get an idea of what other tissues [sinus] are involved with this mass. Once they have a 'map' of the mass then they can better determine a course of tmt, which definitely entails surgery, just a question of how involved. So, you can see the ups and downs are still coming. Surgery will most likely involve general anesthesia which can excite the muscles of the uterus, hence sending me into early labor. An event I really would like to avoid: 1) the little peanut would do better if her lungs were fully mature, and 2) we're not ready for her--no nursery, nothing [I'm in complete denial still]. So, over the next two weeks, I'll be cleaning out a room for her and getting stuff ready, for just in case.

Other than that I'm doing, as Tony the tiger says, 'Grreat!' seriously.

Wishing everyone all the best. Thanks for allowing me to 'vent' the emotions here.

Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
ttc > 5y
1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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Socal,

Welcome back and good luck on this cycle. it was sad that you mc'ed last time. The good thing coming out of this is that you know now that you can get pg, as long as the embryos are healthy, you will make it there next time. Wish all 4 of the eggs fertilized and push back and a bfp in the end!

Catharine,

I am becoming worried about the unidentified growth in your nose. I hope it is just pg-associated benign tumor, not something else. pg hormones do crazy things to us. Can the drs do a biopsy to determine the nature of if the catscan cannot reveal it? I heard we could inject tracing dye to label tumor cells in animals, but I am not sure whether this tech has applied to human yet. Sounds like your drs have already had a good plan and I hope it will work out fine. I wish you could have a conservative treatment without a danger of inducing early labor.

As for me, I caught cold again from my DD. I don't even remember how often I get sick because this girl brings back germs from daycare. It's almost funny now when she and I always fall in sick in the same time and suffering from the same symptoms. Generally, my health condition is not as good as two years ago, it may relate to my lack of exercise. All I do now is to swim for 30 min/wk. My DH said that I was getting lazier but I only feel like doing this much at the moment since DD keeps me busy enough the rest of my non-work time.

Oh, I rent a doppler to listen to the baby's heart beat, just in case. I am tired of not knowing what is going on there although my M/S is pretty bad still. I finally told everyone at the work about our pg at Friday's happy hour. That was a relief.
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Thanks Catharine and Children for the welcome back, I don't always have time to go online anymore between taking care of my 22 month old and work, but I look forward to staying in touch if possible this round.
Catharine, I can't believe what you must be dealing with, I imagine you have great medical advice to follow though.
2 of my 4 eggs have fertilized. Probably will go in for transfer tomorrow unless like my doctor said, and they want to wait for what sometimes can happen and wait for the third egg to fertilize, although when my husband went directly into the lab after the doctor called to give us an update, the lab told us that it looks like the 3rd will not do anything more and the 4th is degenerate. So It looks like it will be 2 embryos to transfer and we might put in the one we have frozen as well, although the PGD from last year when we froze it said that they could not tell if that embryo was actually healthy, there was a shadow on one area of the cell and they could not read the chromosome, they think it is unhealthy, but admit to a certain amount of uncertainty on their diagnosis of it. Doctor thinks we should use it now as well.
Will let everybody know how it goies,
Lind
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7 IUI's/4 4 BFP w/miscarriages, 3 BFN 2004-2005
1st IVF 14 embryos 1/2006 Baby born 10/11/06
2nd IVF 8 embryos 8/31/07 BFP, ended in m/c
3rd IVF 2 embryos cycle started 8/2/08, ended in m/c no heartbeat
IUI 12/4/08 BFP
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Post by children »

Hi Socal,

how did the transfer go? did you transfer 3 or just the fresh 2? enjoy the bed resting and hope your little one let you.

Catharine,

how are you doing?

take care, everyone!
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
http://yasminachina.blogspot.com/
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Hi Catharine,
I transfered 2 fresh, the doctor does not think they look very good, the first is 6-8 cell grade b, and the other is only 3 cells, 3 day transfer, I almost cancelled, but we figured might as well.
We will see!
thanks.
me 45 dh 49
7 IUI's/4 4 BFP w/miscarriages, 3 BFN 2004-2005
1st IVF 14 embryos 1/2006 Baby born 10/11/06
2nd IVF 8 embryos 8/31/07 BFP, ended in m/c
3rd IVF 2 embryos cycle started 8/2/08, ended in m/c no heartbeat
IUI 12/4/08 BFP
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Post by NY4thtry »

socal keeping fingers crossed for you

Has anyone ever used dhea? I interviewed one Dr today who swears by it and another who said it isnt good for my eggs.. I am so confused
Me 43 dh 65
6 cycles 3 chemicals
13+ banking cycles. 2 failed transfers to Surro
12/9 transfer 2 hatching blasts to surro beta 12/ 15
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I changed my signature since it seemed like people want to list how many embryos they have during a cycle, maybe it is helpful for everyone to know, anyway, NY4thtry, I have never heard of dhea, what is it?
me 45 dh 49
7 IUI's/4 4 BFP w/miscarriages, 3 BFN 2004-2005
1st IVF 14 embryos 1/2006 Baby born 10/11/06
2nd IVF 8 embryos 8/31/07 BFP, ended in m/c
3rd IVF 2 embryos cycle started 8/2/08, ended in m/c no heartbeat
IUI 12/4/08 BFP
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Post by children »

Hi socal,

so happy that you proceeded and got them back to your belly. enjoy the incubation time and sending positive wishes to you!

DHEA is a type of hormone which does a lot of things to human body. Recently, it is found it can increase egg quality of women. But I think you will need to take it few months before ivf cycles to have this effect.

NY4thtry,

I think few women here used this and it helped them to produce good eggs, but I have not used it myself. I hope these ladies will come back to answer your questions.

Take care, everyone here.

Yasmina
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Good morning All :D

Checking in before I begin my work for today.

How is everyone?

Socal-sending you lots of babydust.

Yasmina how are you doing?

NY4thtry-I took DHEA, I had been on as a supplement for fitness program and then stayed on it when I learned it also may help with the egg quality.

I had my CAT scan, what an ordeal. I had to convince 4 radiology techs to check with the radiologist, both my Ob, and ENT before they would even let me back. They were adament that I could not have the test. In the long run, after they finally checked with all the docs, they wrapped me with 3 lead aprons and the test was performed. A test that should have taken no more than 10min took 2hours because of the arguing. Will the drama ever go away? outside of that I'm doing well. I had to go in for the 3h glucose tolerance test, yum :? I should get the results to both the scan and the GTT next week. The good news is the frequency of bloody noses has decreased significantly. The growth is still enlarging, and getting harder [no longer able to compress it]. But I still have difficulties breathing through my nose :(

Wishing ya'll well.
Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
ttc > 5y
1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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Hi Catharine,

Did they tell you anything after the CAT scan? Do you still need to go through some operation to remove the growth in the nose? I have not seen you posting and got all worried over this. I am glad to hear that the bleeding is less frequent now I wish you won't have to go through all the surgery trouble. I had a terrible cold since last Friday and my nose is completely congested, can't breath through the nose in the last few days which also affect my sleep quality, waken up by dry mouth and sore throat! I can imagine how tough it is for you to deal with your breathing problem... I am so sorry. Wish Nov. comes faster for you!

I had 3h glucose tolerance test also because I failed the 1 h test but fortunately I was ok. I hope you pass your GTT also.

Thanks for asking, I had few non-reliable baby movements since past week or so. But last Sunday, I had a strong feeling about a jinx since I told people at work and my family about my pg last Friday. Monday afternoon, I went straight into my ob's office to ask for a quick check for the baby's heartbeat...that was not enough for me and I went online and rent me a Doppler and used it in the last couple of nights. I think I am ok now.

Socal,

Any news? Are you going to do some HPT?

Take care, everyone!

Yasmina
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
http://yasminachina.blogspot.com/
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Hey Yasmina-
no word on the scan yet. I did get a call from the Ob's office and I passed the 3h with a but. They said I'm a tinge bit anemic and to begin taking iron supplements. Aughhh! as Charlie Brown would say. I probably popped up anemic because I had to fast for such a length of time, unable to take my prenatal vitamin before the test. Oh and I guess the bloody noses contibuted a wee bit as well. I just do not like the side-effects of iron supplements. I'll have to double my fiber intact just to offset the iron effect.

I know what you mean about getting worried about the movement. I was in Charolotte, NC coaching a football match, an all day affair in the hot sun. Never mind that it was a 4h drive up there and another 4h drive back. I was worn out. The next day I didn't feel the peanut move. I got real nervous. I had DH place his ear to my belly to listen for her heart beat. He said he heard beating, but that he couldn't be certain it was hers over my intestines--lol. But somehow I found comfort in it and the worry just melted away. Today she's been really active. I'd been listening to the Olympics while working: softball and soccer. If I didn't know better I'd say she was trying to replay all the action in her little snuggle space. We've noticed that she's really active when we have certain sports on the tube. I can watch my belly move around, reminds me of the move Alien. Thankfully it is just a precious little girl moving around in there flexing her muscles.

Wishing you all the best,
Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
ttc > 5y
1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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Hi Yasmina,
Yes, I did a HPT this morning and got a positive...hmmm it is only 5 days since my transfer, 8 days since retrieval so my clinic won't give me a blood test for another 6 or 7 days..so I will have to wait until then to see how strong it is.
Good luck Catharin on waiting for your results.
Lind
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7 IUI's/4 4 BFP w/miscarriages, 3 BFN 2004-2005
1st IVF 14 embryos 1/2006 Baby born 10/11/06
2nd IVF 8 embryos 8/31/07 BFP, ended in m/c
3rd IVF 2 embryos cycle started 8/2/08, ended in m/c no heartbeat
IUI 12/4/08 BFP
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Socal,

What great news! Are you going to another one some time later to see whether the pos line gets darker? I think 8 days after ER is pretty safe pos, the trigger shot should be gone by now. Congratulations!

Catharine,

You are so brave, driving 8 h in a day with a big bump? I can't sit in the car comfortably even for a few min. in this hot summer, no wonder your DD complained! Sorry for the iron pills, I was on that thing for few years when I was a teen and didn't like the taste. I was surprised that my ob didn't check my heme level last pg prior to delivery. I was scarily pale after delivery and my ob said I was anemic, but it's not worth of using iron sup since the side effects would make my recovery from c-sec much harder. I hope you are doing fine w the fiber intake.

Well everyone,

We had a busy weekend so far, can't believe that we are welcoming 4 babies at the work in a row, each is 2 month apart, which means that we had to go for the baby showers and then baby-mother visiting A LOT lately. Our Univ. swimming pool is under maintenance break this caused us to go the city one for our weekly swimming, not only the cost increased, my DH got robbed 2x in a row - the lockers are intact, he had no idea how the money was stolen! When he reported this to the security, they said this happens VERY often and they cannot be sure it won't happen again! What a world, we now just leave our stuff by the pool instead. The exciting thing is that now Eloise can swim all by herself now w the help of floating arms. She definitely amazed all her peers and their parents in the pool and her daddy was so proud! When I asked whether he was making her an Olympian, he says, no way! Well, we had hard time to remove her from the pool today, we will see how long this will last!

Have a nice weekend, everyone!

Yasmina
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Hello Ladies-
I hope everyone is doing well. Sending out lots of PMA.

Sadly my ladies football team lost in the national tournament :( there is always next year.

A quick update. My 3h GTT went better, just have to adjust my diet a bit. Also, I have to add iron supplements, most likely because of all the bloody noses. I have low RBC and there for low iron. This is not good as it can lead to premature labor. So iron it is! I've scheduled my surgery [Sept. 11] to remove the massive lesion, which is nearly poking out of my nostril, eeew, yuk. Couldn't come soon enough.

Thinking of everyone. Take care.
Catharine
Me 46 DH 46
ttc > 5y
1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
1 IUI May10,Sept10, Oct10 BFNs

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