OCT / NOV / DEC 2008 Buddies

[to_have_fun08]

NY4thtry - Gosh that was a curve ball for you. I have read that DHEA does increase testoterone but I have also heard that it is good for older people and helping out egg quality and quantity. I think that sometimes some of these Dr and Re have their mind set on something as being bad or good and it takes a lot of data to have their mind persuaded in a different direction. That would be a tough decision on trying to decide to stop the DHEA or keep it going.

Chris

[NY4thtry]

yeah i dont know what to do..

[to_have_fun08]

NY4thtry - maybe the best thing to do is research the incease of testoserone with DHEA and find out what the impact of increase testoterone is on egg quality. Maybe ask Ghost, he might have some imput. Sorry I can't be more helpful.

Chris

[Kas101]

NY4th Hey I think i remember Ghost saying on one post that he considered it unproven. I am also in 2 minds.... My RE yesterday said he advocated it and he had seen some good reults personally so although i am worried about it i think i will give it a go. I have heard positive stories regarding it, but i've not yet heard a story where someone says after taking it they then produced fewer poorer quality eggs.....

Also, i'm obviously no RE, but i understood that DHEA helps stimulate hormone making abilities and its yr body that then makes these the hormone needed. For example if a man took it it would increase testosterone but when we take it it helps us with our estrogen and progesterone - its a kind on neutral or androgenous hormone. Hey, i may be wrong but i am not going to stop right now. If i keep hearing negative reports i may reduce to 50mg. I know its a tough call

[Kas101]

To have fun Yeah!!! Making it a OCT/NOV/DEC board keeps me here and i like that!!! So it seems is time we wont cycle exactly at the same time but at least i will get to see you get your BFP first!!!!

I got that CD delivered today. Its 4 sections, stims, transfer, implantation and last week of 2WW. I listened to a bit today and it sound like a self-hypnosis deal (deep breaths, feel yourself getting heavy etc ....) I dont know - it not my usual style, but i will throw myself into it - ANYTHING goes at this point!!

[mrscutter]

not sure how all of this works. I am new to message boards, but I would love to talk with other people ttc. I start IVF cycle end of October with transfer first week in November. I don't know what to expect.

[Kas101]

mrscutter welcome!!! Bet you are excited and a little anxious about your upcoming cycle! Well, here we are all in the same boat..... We just use these boards to tell each other how its all going, exchange information tell funny stories and offer each other support during the hard times - There are no rules, just jump in !!!!

Do you know what drugs you will be using yet?

[NY4thtry]

Asking Ghost a good idea

[foreverlove]

mrscutter - WELCOME!!!! Dont worry I am new to IVF also and these girls are a wonderful support system and they are very knowledgeable. We can all go thru this together. You can start us all off with a BFP!!!

KAS101 – don’t think of it as bringing up the rear, think of it as waiting another day to get your miracle. Just stay positive and it will happen.

TGIF Ladies!!!!! I am so glad the weekend is here, I am so tired this week as work has been very stressful!

[to_have_fun08]

I agree TGIF.

I realized yesterday that going to the OB really sucks. I am really spoiled at the Re's because I never have to wait very long. For my checkup yesterday I had to wait for 45 min and to add on top of that, can you believe that there are pregnant people at the Ob's office? I just didn't really want to see PG people and all their kids but of course there was tons of them there. Thanks goodness that is all over with.

Hope you all have a good weekend.

Also, we are now officailly the OCT/NOV/DEC board. I finally figured out how to change the title. YEAH!!!!

Chris

[mrscutter]

Thanks Kas, I would love to see BFP. I cannot believe how expensive the medications are. I will be taking 450 follistim for 10 days. im not sure what other medications I will be taking. I also have an appointment to start accupuncture. The RE I go to really thinks its a good idea. i will do it for the 4 weeks leading up to the ivf. He will also come to the doctors office the day we do the transfer. I am kind of skeptical about it but i am willing to try anything. My age and egg quality are my biggest factors. I just dont know if 20 percent chance with my own egg is enough to spend 15 thousand dollars. Im glad that I can talk with other ladies about the stress of all of this. oh by the way. i have no clue what most of the abbreviations are that people use on these forums. any suggestions?

[wonderce]

Hi all,
I am new to this site and message board. I feel so comforted to know that there are so many other women experiencing the same issues as me. As with many of you, I have been through several years of meds, tests, procedures, etc and no luck so far. But hopefully the end of this year will bring good luck for us all! It's been hard to stay positive when friends are having babies left and right, and you're going through all of this and trying your hardest every month to be blessed with a miracle. And especially when insurance covers none of it! I think it's a shame that companies have the option not to provide coverage as part of their insurance policy. It's not something that can be helped. Whew, thanks for letting me vent! Anyway, I think this board will be good support for me and am so glad I found you all. I am trying acupuncture for the first time with my next IVF cycle and hoping it helps. I read that some of you have tried this before and some mention of eating pineapples? What is that for?

[to_have_fun08]

wonderce-- Welcome to the board. Is this your first IVF? When will you begin your cycle?

I agree with you on the insurance aspect. Employeers will choose the cheapest option possible for their employee health insurance and I guess infertility treatments is not an option they think they need. I would guess that most of the empoyeers that are making the decision to cover infertility or not have never experienced any infertility issues so they are probably pretty ignorant when making their choices. I think all states should mandate coverage. i am luck enough to live in a state that does but it excludes self pay insurances which most insurances are considered self pay becasue the employer pays the premiums. I still have coverage but it isn't the same amount that is outlined under the state mandate.

About pineapple, there is some chemical in the pineapple core. I think it is called bromine or something like that. This chemical is supposed to help with implantation. This same chemical is also in brazil nuts. You are supposed to eat the core which definatly is not a treat. I ate the pineapple core a day or two after transfer and obviously it didn't do the trick for me.

Let us know what your schedule it, look forward to cycling with you.

NY4thtry- Did you make any decisions on the DHEA?


Chris

[NY4thtry]

Yes .. ghost actually concurred that it could be bad so i stopped....

[NY4thtry]

here is what ghost wrote:

I think I posted that before.

DHEA is turned to testosterone, which has been correlated with poor egg quality. Then the testosterone is gradually turned to estrogen. If they want to give you estrogen, there are simple and cheap ways to do that without risking potential effects from testosterone.

But is testosterone a cause or just a marker of poor egg quality? I don't know. If it's a cause, then DHEA just might be a bad idea. If it's just a marker, then DHEA may be irrelevant. Still, I don't see how it might be beneficial, but I'm no RE.