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Post by NY4thtry »

to take our minds off of getting pregnant....

is anyone so depressed about our choices in this presidential election...

i wish their was door number 3!!!!!!!
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Post by AmandaM »

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!VERY disappointed.

Unfortunately we had a 3rd choice, Ron Paul, and the American public ruined it.
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Post by to_have_fun08 »

Yep, it is so funny that the press hardly ever mentioned Ron Paul during the primary election process. Now that we are in such economic turmoil you see his name all the time. I don't know if I am totally for Ron Paul but we need a lot of change in the White House and I think Ron Paul would have been the best candidate for that. The candidate that we have now are depressing and I don't believe a word either of them says. I guess that is just my 2 cents.

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Post by Ghost »

I supported Ron Paul in the primary. But he had no chance.

I like both current candidates better than those 4 years ago.
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Ron Paul?????? He is all about blaming the US for all the faults in the world. He actually said he understood why Al Qaeda attacked us!!! How can anyone like this man???

Sorry but I'm for anyone but Ron Paul
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Post by AmandaM »

I respect your opinion on Ron Paul, many people see his opinions as radical.

One of the main reasons I am for him is that he is a Constitutionalist. He only votes for things that are allowed in our Constitution,. i.e the Patriot Act. (totally not allowed). I also think that the Federal Government should be less involved, which was the intention of our forefathers.

As for the war, Ron Paul was the only candidate that was against the war from the fist place and the only one who has always voted no. I don't like it when the candidates changes their opinion to what is currently popular with the public.

Now I am voting for Bob Barr. I know he has no chance, so my vote is more to make a statement. Plus, I would never vote for EITHER of those two guys. Could be worse though, could have been Hilary. :)
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Post by NY4thtry »

Cannot say that i like Ron Paul i though i do agree with his constitutionalism.

As for the current candidates .. unfortunately there is only one choice and it is McCain. Senator Obama while a smart man is not an accomplished man. His record in the senate ir unremarkable (he has never floated one bill) and it was the same in the Illinois legislature.

While he admits that he is light on foriegn policy he says Biden can help him and he has many strong advisors. Where were they when he suggested that the Russia/Georgia situation was a matter for the UN security council? Failing to remember that Russia has a veto on the council. It took him 4 days to correct himself.. i could give lots of other examples

If you support Ron Paul you cannot vote for Obama thats for sure.. but please dont throw your vote away America is in a difficult time as we all know and needs someone who can lead.. of the two McCain is the much better choice.

I myslef personally wish Michael Bloomberg had run. Fiscally conservative ocially liberal.. wht could have been better for America?
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Amanda I agree with you on a lot of your points. I am all for the Patriot Act and less government.

As for John McCain, being a Republican voter I am very worried about his choice for VP. While many women may like her for her family values (no abortion) I cannot imagine McCain dying in office and her taking over. If you have heard any of her few interviews, she has the intelligence of a very ill informed and naive person. To put it lightly she isn't very smart and may not make the best choices. Even though I don't like abortion, I cannot say it's at the top of my list of what needs to be changed in Washington. I think there are a lot more things to be worried about (terrorism, economy). I was so wanting him to pick Condi or Mitt Romney. Yeah it could be worse and we could be fighting Hillary right now. I'm so glad she's out of the picture. For now anyways : )
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Post by NY4thtry »

the choice of Sara Palin was a way to combat Obama.

I disagree that she is not smart. i do not agree with her pro life position either.. but i am not so worried about anything happning to McCain.. I watched footage of him coming home from vietnam last night.. he had the sam gate then.. look at his mother.. she is 96 and going strong..

If something were to happen i think palin will realize she needs to rely on advisors and i believe McCain will put together a good cabinet..

She is not an accomplished politician and has been thrust into the limelight she is bound to stumble.. but if i had to choose Obama or Palin unfortunately i woudl choose Palin..

the good news is i am not making that choice
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Post by AmandaM »

Kabillion

The Patriot Act is more government involvement and it goes against the Constitution. It does a lot if illegal and immoral things. I am 100% against it. It gives the government the right to imprison someone on false charges and leave them in jail without giving them the option of a speedy trial. It is more government involvement and not less.

Ny4try- I completely agree that Palin was chosen to combat Obama. I also don't agree with her pro life opinion. That is one of my points towards less government involvement. I think McCain will probably win though.
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I agree on less government, but not when it involves terrorism. I think that the Patriot Act may need some fixing, but the basis of it is a good one. Out of all things the government has a responsibilty to do, keeping our country safe is top priority for me. I know some people don't feel that way and you are all entitiled to your opinions.

As for John McCain. He is 72 years of age. Yes his mom is in her 90's but that doesn't mean he will live to be that age as well. His father died at the age of 70 and also John was tortured for many years when he was a POW. He has had many health problems as well.

Like I mentioned before, I have always voted Republican and I really want to like Sarah Palin, but I am being truthful with myself and she is just not qualified for that position. Her own mother-in-law said the same. I know many of you may think she has stumbled from being pushed into the spotlight, but did you see her answer about her foreign policy experience?? The first time it was asked she said you could see Russia from her house. Then when asked by Katie Couric she mentioned something about the Russians using Alaskan airspace. Is she serious?? I think she is and thats what scares me. Her deciding to give birth to a special needs baby should be at the top of her list of things to take care of. That baby will have a nanny and should be taken care of by his mother. I'm not saying you can't work and have a baby (or 5) but the VP job is not a 9 to 5 kind of job. You work long days and travel often, and I think it is her responsibilty to care for that child since it was her decision to have him. Not someone elses.
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Post by Ghost »

Interesting spectrum of views here.

I debate this stuff all the time. But not here.
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Post by NY4thtry »

A little diversion fro mpregnancy obsession isnt a bad thing

I too agree we must be vigiliant on terrorism and it scares me that Obama has said he would sit down with the prsident of Iraq with no preconditions. The ex israeli ambassador to the UN is a friend of mine and he sat down with Obama and said that his lack of understanding of the issues o nthe middel east was terrifying

As for the special needs baby.. she has a stay at home dad that is a lifestyle choice noone would say she should have to stay home if she was the Dad... as someone with a high profile career i cant go there.. even after all i am goingthrough to get PG i will not be a stay at home mom... i dont think that makes me a bad mother...
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Just curious...how can you feel OK that Palin will surround herself with competent advisors yet say that Obama is not qualified when he is very clearly the most intelligent of the four presidential/vice presidential candidates?

Sarah Palin's husband is not a stay at home dad, he works for BP and as a commercial fisherman.

McCain and Obama are not all that different. They like to sell themselves that way to appeal to the end spectrum of their respective parties. The truth is they will probably govern very similarly and either one will be better than our current travesty of a president.

Personally I support Obama because I think he'll be the best diplomat, and I feel that's what we need from a president right now. I don't mind McCain as a choice either but his ridiculous choice of a vice presidential pick combined with his age rule him out for me.

Exactly what "preconditions" should be held in place for a diplomatic discussion? Just because you agree to talk to someone doesn't mean you support their position.

Having worked at Bloomberg's company it does scare me a little to think of him as president, though he does run a tight ship and seems to be a popular Mayor.
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Post by NY4thtry »

it is not clear to me that Obama is the most intelligent...
He is a better speaker than the others that i will give him

The advisors will be selected for Palin by McCain

As for Palins husband i should have been more clear if he is VP he will be a stay at home Dad i seriously doubt he will stay at BP...

by speaking with Iran you legitimize a regime that has said they would like to destroy israel and the us..... read what the iranian leader has said...

As for a diplomat i go back to the israelui ambassadors take on his understanding of the middle east.. if you dont understand whats going on you cant be a good diplomat
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