OCT / NOV / DEC 2008 Buddies

Discussion forum for those particularly interested in IVF and embryo transfer including frozen embryo transfer.
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karenvancouverisland
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Cycling:

October Stims:

sloan- stims Oct 10 (follistim)
wonderce- stims Oct 10
wickedwheel - stims Oct 14 (gonal F) ER Oct 28
karenvanc.island - stims Oct 16, (gonalF), on DHEA
robin- stims Oct 18 (bravelle, menopur, ganiralex)
NY4thtry -done Lupron, on ganirilex, - stims 10/20
Melo_P -down reg Oct 6, stims around Oct 22th
chenry- stims Oct 24
gina- stims around Oct 25
babyhope- polyp removed, stims around Oct 25
johnson 1902- stims Oct 29
mrs.cutter- stims Oct 31
keesha2008 - end of Oct
mally - end of Oct
Much Hope-Donor Egg. ET Nov 2/3


November Stims:
sol2009 - Nov cycle
cocosmomma - FET Nov
Foreverlove - Begin BCP's soon, planning ER/ET week of Thanksgiving
to_have_fun08- BCP's Oct 8th.
jnitschke- nov?
JDC- mid Nov stims, estrace 1st
bell 02- Lupron Oct 25, FET Nov 28
Lady J- on bcp's, Lupron Oct 26, Nov stims
Lynnie- end of Nov stims
not hopless yet - Waiting for AF around Oct 20th to begin BCP's


December stims:
Kas101 - currenlty taking DHEA - bcps early Nov, stims early Dec
Rosario- stims Dec
JennLB25 - Tube removal Oct 8 - cycle Nov/Dec
Natasha- Donor Egg cycle


2WW --- PUPO
ajdec- ET Oct 13 - 1 embie! leader of BFP's!! :D

Beta Results
38 yrs. DOR, TTC since '04, recommended DE but didn't listen
3 IVF's & 1 FET: 1 cancellation, 1 m/c @ 12 wks, 1 chemical, 1 miracle boy & miracle 'natural' PG right now while waiting to cycle (WTF?)
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karenvancouverisland
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Post by karenvancouverisland »

hi everyone. welcome wickedwheel. nice to hear your success story. hopefully this will be success #2 for you :D

so, i've had my first day of stims and it's just kinda weird. i had a nervous laughing fit this morning as my husband came at me with the needle. it was beyond strange. i had to give my evening dose myself as he's out of town now for work. i can't wait for the weekend, to just try to relax as i'm finding IVF completely fills my mind and there's no room for work.

sloan, your follie # sounds good to me :D and jenn- sorry to hear your still strugggling.

so i've been working on the 'homework' the counselor i started seeing gave me- to write down my negative thoughts..so far they include things like 'i'm defective' and my friend is 'wrong to say i'm courageous', and 'my life will fall apart if the u/s on sunday is bad'. YIKES, sucks to recognize all that.

anyways, i'm wishing you all tons of baby dust and PMA (PMA,PMA,PMA!)
and a big hug to anyone out there who needs one as much as i do :D
karen
38 yrs. DOR, TTC since '04, recommended DE but didn't listen
3 IVF's & 1 FET: 1 cancellation, 1 m/c @ 12 wks, 1 chemical, 1 miracle boy & miracle 'natural' PG right now while waiting to cycle (WTF?)
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Post by wonderce »

Hi all,
I can't believe it's almost the weekend again. Happy Friday everyone.

Karen I know what you mean about the negative thoughts. I have contemplated on starting to see a counselor, especially if this cycle doesn't work. I was such a mess when I didn't respond to the meds last time, and can't imagine if I actually make it to a transfer and it doesn't work. I know a lot of girls have that happen, but there are also a lot who are successful. I admire you for going to talk with someone. I really need to check into it too.

Jenn Sorry you have such an uncompassionate boss. That has to make it extra tough for you. I feel so fortunate that I have a wonderful boss/friend who has been really understanding with all of my days out of the office for appts, etc. It sounds like you and several others on this board have great hubbies. That's wonderful because we all need as much support as we can get! Hope you are feeling better. PMA wishes to you!

Sloan I can totally relate on the slew of numbers they throw at us. The follie #'s and measurements, lining thickness, E2 levels, etc. I try to write some of it down, but it's impossible when you're getting scanned. I should really start asking for the #'s afterwards so I can keep track.

Wickedwheel Welcome! It's very reassuring to read your post about your daughter and comment on egg quality. Thanks for the encouragement for everyone.

Well all, I got an update yesterday that I had 9 potentials and 8 still growing. I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much, but they said I will most likely go for ER next week. I can't believe it might actually happen this time! I went for acupuncture yesterday and that was pretty relaxing. I have another scan and bloodwork tomorrow morning and then they'll have a more definite ER date for me.

Hugs to all and hope everyone has a nice weekend.
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Post by ajdec »

OMG! This TWW is killing me! lol I really thought it wouldn't be that big of a deal. Two weeks normally goes by so quickly! Oh no, not this two weeks! Ugh...it's only Friday...so long to wait still! After the transfer on Monday, I told DH that I wasn't going to do a HPT at all. Already yesterday, I was telling him "well...maybe we'll get a HPT next week!" He's definitely really against it...no sense in freaking yourself out until you know for sure, he says! Sigh...I know he's right.

Lucky, we have a lot of distractions this weekend to keep my mind occupied. And I totally agree with the mind always being on IVF comment...I have like no interest in work or much else lately! I'm all about the PUPO!

Happy weekend to all!
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wonderce - 8 sounds great!! I'm happy for you.

Karen - i totally know what you mean - the absurdity of all the needles and just the kind of out of body experience necessary to get ourselves through all the pricks etc. Today the nurse was digging around trying to find my vein (That was rolling) and I thought I was going to flip out... but no we must remain civil.... I also have my DH do my injections - I haven't done one yet on my own... I'm afraid I'm going to have to be forced into it... I'm a bit of a wimp about it...

So today I went in and they said they may cancel me for an IUI prior to my u/s - just to make my heart sink ... and then once they were looking they felt like my right side caught up a bit (yay acupuncture) - so it looks like i'll have around 5- 6 eggs (phew..). And I'm triggering tonight or tomorrow. yikes... it went by so fast....

Did anyone trigger already on day 7 of stims? I've heard stimming so fast might be bad for quality... but I'm trying to engage a PMA...
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TTC naturally for 1 yr.
polyp removed March 08
starting IVF October 2008!
BFP!!! 11/2 Beta 166, 11/10 Beta 6100
dagnytaggart
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Post by dagnytaggart »

HI all, mind if I join you?? :D

Started bcp on Oct 9, for antagonist protocol this time, and tentative ER of Nov 19.

This will be attempt #2. #1 was a disaster. LOL.
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Post by Kas101 »

Karen i think its a great idea to see a therapist, I think it should be mandatory for everyone of us going through this as we are all dealing with pain, hurt, anger, jealousy, hope and its very soul destroying. Sometmes we need an outlet for this (i guess for most of us that outlet are these boards) can we all come with you next time you go?????

wonderce what a great nuber of follies!!! :D

ajdec 2WW is tough!!!! Keep going, good idea to keep yourself occupied, any distraction is good. Too early for the HPT's yet, dont do it to yourself (please remind me i said this when i am in the 2WW!!!!)

Sloan I know its scary when they dont feel you are doing as well as they would like, i only had 4 follies for most of my stimming, and at the last minute produced another 2, making 6, but form those i got 4 mature eggs, 3 fertilised and i had 3 excellent embies grade 1-2, so sometimes its all about quality. Last thread i was on i saw several people with only a few eggs go on to get pregnant with multiples, so you are doing great !!

As i understand it the earlier you trigger the better shape your endometrial receptivity will be, so 7 days is fine, eggs are mature when they reach a certain size, not how long they take to get there :D

dagny
welcome!! I take it you are trying a new protocol this time (from your post). Its often said that sometimes the first time is when they see how you get on with the meds, so if it doesnt work out they can adjust, making it a better cycle the next time, I'm also on a new protocol this time, so we should be in for a better chance this time around...
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Question... Does anyone know if there is a "standard" for when you can expect to get AF after ER/ET? I read somewhere that 14 days after ER is when you can expect AF...and if you don't get it, that's a good sign. Anyone know if this is valid? Thanks!
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Post by gina1234 »

i guess everyone is different after my last cycle my ER was on aug 31 & i got AF on sept 16 just three days after my beta test...so good luck to u in your cycle...big hugs to u & i am sending u alot of baby dust
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2nd ivf sept 2008 2 trans/bfn
3rd ivf nov 2008 bfp : )
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My doctor told me the earliest you can expect it is 10 days from trigger... Fingers crossed that none of us get AF this cycle! :)
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I really like my new RE he sems really caring and he's open to new things i want to try like antibiotic therapy etc, but OMG the receptionist is a complete B****H!!! When i called to tell her i had AF, she was 'er why are you telling me' kind of attitiude, and when i got a message from my old RE saying they were having trouble faxing over my records to her and i called to ask if maybe she would call them to sort it out she said 'if i have time!!!!".

SO anyway i just called to check she had them (this is a week since i spoke to her last) she said they hadnt received them, so i suggested perhaps she could call them she gave the bigged annoyed SIGH you could possibly do and said meanly 'i dont have time to chase round after eveyone but i will do it this time only!!!" WOW Beeatch!!!!!!

So my RE had given me his pager # when we met so i called it as i was highly pissed and she called me back immieidately saying it was only for out of hours emergencies (he told me to call it anytime if i had questions)
So anyway she put me through to someone else and he will be calling back to discuss my antibiotic treatment later, and this other lady said she DID have my notes from my old RE. GRRRR i am seething. Obviously she has never had any IF issuesnd totally does not understand that YOU DONT MESS WITH HORMONAL WOMEN!!!!!
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Post by to_have_fun08 »

Hey Everyone,
I am back and it looks like I got a lot of homework to do to catch up with all of you. I had some internet connection but it was pretty worthless and ended up pissing me off because I spent more time trying to download a page then to actaully read some post. So I gave up and haven't been on the computer for the last few days.

Vacation was a blast. I went 4-wheeling 1 day but do any of you every get that feeling like something bad is going to happen? Well i was in my Jeep wheeling and I just had that feeling and everytime I was in just a little scary of a situation i was feaking out. So I parked my Jeep after a couple of hours and rode with DH. He still freaked me out but at least if something happened it would have been his Jeep that got wreaked and not mine. So wheeling wasn't as fun but oh well I can go again sometime. The rest of the week was just so relaxing. I love going to this resort because it is right on the lake and it is so quite, I just sit in my chair on the deck all day reading my books and watching the water. The weather was 80 degrees and sunny for most of the week so that made it even better. I just hate coming back, but ya got to live in the real world. My dream is to win the lottery and build my own little resort so i could enjoy that all the time.

Well, I am going to post more later on after I get caught up with everyone. I still have to unpack and DH is getting grouchy because he is hungry. Hope everyone is doing good and Happy Friday.

Oh and One more thing ===Congrats adjec for being in your 2ww. When is your Beta? I can't wait for our first BFP on this board.

Chris
Chris 40- DH 41
6 IVFs Cycles - BFN's
DE Cycle 2/2011 -BFP Jacob born 11/11/11

FET 7/2012 - BFP - Kaylee due 4/3/13

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Hi guys, Just checking in.... Assuming all goes according to schedule I start stims tomorrow. Bloods & Sono in the morning will tell for sure. Went to my injection training class yesterday. Maybe it won't be so bad. I bought an ice gel pack just in case. Hope all is well for you!
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Post by bell-02 »

Welcome natashamom, Lady_J, wickedwheel, and dagnytaggart.

Ajdec, I’m glad your ET went well. The 2ww is super tough, stay strong. The first time I did IVF I didn’t do a hpt, but the second time I did. It’s a hard decision; the drugs can give you false positives, and negatives are so crushing to see. Good luck with your decision. Both times I got AF 3-4 days after I went in for my 2ww blood work. So I already knew it was a negative when AF came. I believe that one of the side effects of the progesterone oil is that it can keep AF away.

Robin611, good luck with your meds, I hope your support group went well.

NY4thtry, good luck with your stims on Monday.

Babyhope, it sounds like you’ve been through a lot, but it sounds like it was a good thing you insisted on those miscarriage tests. The only change to my protocol this time around is taking a baby aspirin every day. I think I’ll take it all the way through the 2ww. My doctor said that study’s have shown it can help with implantation. Something about ensuring blood was flowing to the right places for implantation. After he told me this I wondered why he didn’t have me take baby aspirin during my first two IVF’s when, according to his words, it can’t hurt you. Talk to your RE and see what they say though, every clinic is different.

Gina1234, I hope you’re feeling better, this is the place to let it all out though, so keep on posting.

JDC, nice to “see you again”, but so sorry about your last IVF.

Karenvancouverisland, congrats on starting your stims.

JennLB25, I hope things are going better for you. This whole process is such an emotional rollercoaster. It’s a shame the people at your work are so difficult, hang in there.

Wonderce, you’re almost to your ER, when will you find out for sure??

Sloan88, good luck with your triggering.

Kas101, how frustrating to be dealing with that receptionist. Just one more thing to deal with, grrr.

Welcome back to_have_fun08, glad you were able to get away for a bit.

Not much new for me. I start Lupron on October 25 so just enjoying my last needless days :D Take care all.
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IVF#1 June 2008 transferred 2, froze 9=BFN
FET August 2008, transferred 2=BFN
FET November 2008, 4 embryos didn't make it through the unthawing process so transferred 1=BFN
Fresh IVF cycle planned for June 2009
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to have fun, welcome back! It sounds like you had a very relaxing vacation. I think it does the soul some good to get away now and again. It lets your mind take a little break from all of the stress.

robin, injections aren't too bad once you get used to them. I was a little nervous about it the first few times, but my DH is diabetic and I have seen him give himself injections hundreds of times so I tried to get over being scared. Now I inject myself 2 times a day and although it's a bit sensitive sometimes, it has gotten easier. Good luck tomorrow!

bell, I think I'll know more after my scan and bloodwork tomorrow morning. They said most likely mid to late next week. I'm scared that I'm getting so excited, because I don't want to be let down if it doesn't happen. I guess I'll just take it one day at a time. You will be on the Lupron soon enough, so you must be getting excited to start again. I hope it will be lucky try #3 for you!

Kas, thanks for the encouragement on the follies. I wasn't sure if it was a good number, but also sounds more and more like it's about quality over quantity. I hope we all have both. Hopefully the new protocol will be the one for you.

Sloan, thanks! Wow, that's exciting you are triggering already! When is your ER?
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