Trad Chinese Medicine for IVF and women over 35

Discussion forum for those particularly interested in IVF and embryo transfer including frozen embryo transfer.
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Rinnie
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Post by Rinnie »

Sue I have no idea what my herbs are. I actually do the "double double toil and trouble" method....boiling them up every 2 days. I'm going to get a chart with pictures of all the herbs and find out exactly which ones I get. They change depending on where I am in the process and some they had to change as I was sensitive to them. But a good TCM doc will really personalize it.
My U/S is on Thursday...I'll feel a lot better knowing there's actually a sac/egg in there! I'll let you know...thanks for the support...I know it's going to happen for you!!

Rin
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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Rinnie
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PS Sue I really enjoy my TCM doc for support too. My RE is so clinical & cold...it's nice to have a doc that cares.
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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turtlesonastump
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Post by turtlesonastump »

Rinnie - It is sooo good to hear from you. I have been thinking of you and wondering were you went. I am so glad that you got pregnant despite the Lupron mess. I am also pregnant after my 2nd IVF cycle. I did acupuncture and herb tablets this time. Good luck on your u/s today!!!!
Veronica-34 DH- 49
IVF1a 2/08 ectopic before stims
IVF1b 5/08 canceled before ER
IVF1c-6/08 BFN
IVF#2 8/08 BFP!!:D 1st @ 52; 2 @ 1305
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Rinnie
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Turtles!! It's so good to hear from you & I'm soooo happy. I remember you went through the ringer too with a canceled...or delayed cycle I think.

The things we go through :D But it looks like herbs & AP were great for you.
Thanks for your good wishes & I'll keep up with your progress too.

Rin xo
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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Post by cocosmomma »

Rinnie! So good to hear from you again. And CONGRATS! How very exciting for you. I am thrilled.

I decided to stay with AP and herbs for 6 mos. I feel great and I've lost almost 2 dress sizes! It's fantastic! I don't think I'll ever NOT do acupuncture. I started my Vivelle patches this morning for our 2nd FET. Wish us luck!

Stick around, ok? Would love to have you here the next few weeks.

Cocosmomma
Me 33 - DH 43
2nd FET - 12/1/08
Beta #1 - 527; Beta #2 - 2806
U/S #1 - 1/2/09 - TWINS!
3/17/09 - BOYS!
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Hey cocosmomma!! Good luck on your FET...keep me updated....woo hoo..it's gonna happen!! Are you still doing your stews & warm stuff? You're so right on the AP...it'll be a part of my life forever!

I had the U/S today & one cute little bean in there perfectly placed. I have a couple of cysts in one ovary but apparently those are good for supplying progesterone even if I do feel a little bloated and sore sometimes.
No real nausea yet but hungry like there's no tomorrow.
I go back on the 26th to check the heartbeat....would be a nice Thanksgiving :D

Rin xo
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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Morning! Yes, Rin, I am still on my diet and I LOVE it. It's super easy now. Not to mention, the weight I've lost just makes it all that much easier to stay on it. I'll never go back to eating the way I was before - especially the refined carbs. No white pasta, bread, rice, etc ever again. I may start drinking a little milk. The lack of calcium is a little worrisome to me, but I need to discuss with my AP. Other than that, I don't miss things anymore. I splurge here and there, but only at the beginning of my cycle. That one week is a play week for me. But I don't overdo it. Mostly because it makes me feel terrible! My body just isn't used to pizza and beer anymore! LOL.
Me 33 - DH 43
2nd FET - 12/1/08
Beta #1 - 527; Beta #2 - 2806
U/S #1 - 1/2/09 - TWINS!
3/17/09 - BOYS!
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Rinnie
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So, I've been feeling very queasy this week. I had the U/S today and I'm 7wks/4days...we saw the heartbeat at 176 beats....amazing.

But...back to queasy....my TCM doc put these little seedlike things in my ear ( like a tiny grain taped in my ear) and I press on them when I feel nausea and it gives me some relief for awhile. The Chinese sure come up with some interesting things :D

cocosmomma I've been having goat's milk & goat's milk yogurt as they're easier to digest. I love the yogurt. The milk takes a little getting used to but I don't mind it now. I don't get that lactose gas & the body doesn't have to fight so hard to digest it.

Rin
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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JustRelax
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Post by JustRelax »

So what kind of herbs have you all tried. My AP put me on the "Blossom" herbs which has an array of different herbs in them. Im axious to find out what you guys are on. I tried herbs and AP for a few months and didnt notice a huge differnce but I love to hear your success stories. I just failed my IVF #1 so now i think im going to detox my body and try the herbs and AP again. Any thoughts or anyone that has done detox before???
Me 28 DH 37
Unexplained
9 mo Clomid
1 Mo femara
1 Injectable cycle
7 IuI's
4 mo accupunture and herbs
IVF #1 Nov 08-BFN
Rinnie
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JustRelax I did a detox, but it was from the TCM doc and was different herbs to boil. I don't know what they were but they were even more disgusting than the usual ones :shock:

As far as the herbs for fertility...he changes them according to where you are in the cycle but there are 10 I know of with their various names. I was sensitive to a couple of the roots so he changed those out for me to something else.

Dodder Seeds ( Tu si zi ) ( Semen Cuscutae)
Chinese Goji berry or Chinese Wolfberry ( Gou qi zi ) ( Fructus Lycii)
Morinda Root ( Ba ji tian) (Radix Morindae Officinalis)
Cistanches ( Rou cong rong ) ( Herba Cistanches)
Epimedium ( Xian ling pi ) ( Herba Epimedii)
Milk Vetch Root (Huang qi ) (Radix Astagali)
Chinese angelica root (Dan qui ) ( Radicis Angelicae Sinensis)
Chinese foxglove root ( Shu di huang) (Radix Rehmanniae Preparata)
Asiatic cornelian cherry (Shan zhu yu ) (Fructus Corni )
Chinese yam ( Shan yao ) ( Rhizoma Dioscoreae)

Also the raspberry is supposed to be good for egg quality, strengthening uterine lining and relaxing the uterus to help prevent miscarriage.

Hope this helps

Rin
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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JustRelax
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Post by JustRelax »

Rin, Thanks so much! Ill have to ask my AP about these. This really helps and hoping it all help me get pregnant! Im trying to stay postitive and optimistic but its so hard when youre not in control of this. Thanks again! :D
Me 28 DH 37
Unexplained
9 mo Clomid
1 Mo femara
1 Injectable cycle
7 IuI's
4 mo accupunture and herbs
IVF #1 Nov 08-BFN
Rinnie
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JustRelax
I know...it's such a crazy process, but it's great that you're trying different things. I felt that with all the money and time and effort we were putting in, I should try absolutely everything.
I was pleasantly surprised how great I feel with the TCM.
Good luck to you, and let me know what happens!

Rin
Me: 43 Dh 60
IVF#1 no ET..poor egg quality...then AP & herbs
IVF #2 BFP chem IVF #3 clinic dosing error so had to switch to IUI, BFP!! A Boy!
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Kuny
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Post by Kuny »

Hi,
I know what you are going through. Been through IVF a few times. And another one next week. Always have hopes. I tried herb, and helped a lot. I think it would be good idea if you can see acuppnctulist. Your insurance may be able to cover it.

www.Fertility-Health-Information.com
Thanks,
Kuny
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