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toobee
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MsFixIt
I am glad your feeling better. The fact that you have 2 more blasts left means you have two more chances. I am so glad you can see the posisitve in that Thats something to be so grateful for. Blaming yourself is so easy to do, but the fact is, IT REALLY ISNT YOUR FAULT. :roll: There is no fault in matters of infertility unless your doing drugs or drinking like a fish or something stupid like that. I imagine you know this but just need to hear it from someome else :shock: I dont know why IVF works sometimes and other times it doesnt, and I dont know why some woman are so fertile and others like all of us have been so challenged. But I do really belive in a never give-up attitiude for something you really want. And I belive you and your DH have what it takes to make your dreams a reality. If you didnt you wouldnt be on this board and you wouldnt have tried IVF. You are a rockstar and you can and will have a baby. Your have to belive that to your core because that is half the battle. Now I dont want to sound like I am preaching or anything, but Heres what I THINK I would do If I were you at this momnet. And this is what I did before we started IVF. Its just my humble opinion but its not to insinuate you didnt do this stuff or did something wrong or that by doing any of this will improve your outcome. I am simply sharing my personal thoughts.....I also dont know your complete IVF history so please keep that in mind

-I would sit down with my Dh and go over all our finances and come up with a plan on how many rounds of IVF we were willing to agree to do if at all possible. (That was the case for us, we planned for three, and if we had to try beyond that we would talk about it then) I think the reason we did this was because we needed a plan and that helped us for some reason. If we failed the first time, which for my age was very much statistically probable, we knew we had two more trys and possibly some frosties.

-I would look at my diet and lifestyle and see if there are any things I and my DH could do that may improve the outcome no matter how insignifigant the changes may seem. Both mysllef and DH were on supplements and really healthy unprocessed eating. Now I am not insinuating that your diet is bad or you did or ate anything wrong, so please dont take it that way. Changing diet is so hard for allot of us. Its something my DH & I did and I believe to my core it really helped. But thats just my personal feelings. We went over the top about it though, I really studied ferility nutrition and read a ton of books and took the best from each book I read. And DH was on baord luckily and did it because he really wanted to do what ever it took.

I would take a break for 1-3 months beetween each cycle if depending on your age. I would want to give my body a break from the drugs, the stress and build up my self esteem and courgae to face the music again. Since your doing FET I guess you need less time, and no drugs? So I guess in your case doing FET its differant than a full IVF cycle. I wanted to do fresh cycles and only use frosties as a last resort simply because of my age. But your younger I think??? Not sure. I have read that FET can have higher success in some clinics but in others not so much. So I am not sure about any of that. I have read that fresh is best and I have read frozen is better in some cases too.

I just want you to know I am so sorry. I know when I suffered my m/c's no one could comfort me and it was something I had to work through for myslef. I imagine its the same for you and others who had an unsuccessful cycle or FET. But when all is said and done all we can ever do is push forward, pick oursleves up and get on that train again and keep trying until we cant try no more. I wish I could find the perfect words to make your pain go away...but I am sending you a huge cyber hug. There were a few times I felt like giving up, and I did for a little while I have to admit. DH & I tried for 9 years and I really didnt want to do IVF..........but I am so glad we did & I didnt give up....
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3 miscarriages (concieved naturally)
3 blasts transferred - 1st IVF - BFP !!
Beta 1,2,3 = 497 /4056 /16,896 - TWINS!
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To Have Fun

I am mulling over my response to you because I want to be as thoughtful as I can. I will probbaly post my thoughts for whatever thay are worth to you tonight or tommorrow. YOu have been through so much and I really want to think about what you asked us before I respond. Plus I need to read your post at least 10 times to make sure I get it. :lol:
ME: 39 DH: 46 :) TTC for 8 years
3 miscarriages (concieved naturally)
3 blasts transferred - 1st IVF - BFP !!
Beta 1,2,3 = 497 /4056 /16,896 - TWINS!
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Jeez, this thread is a snoozer this week.....zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Hope all is well with everyone and your not to crazed with the holidays...thinking of you all! Be careful out there with all the crazy insane holiday drivers.......buckle up!
ME: 39 DH: 46 :) TTC for 8 years
3 miscarriages (concieved naturally)
3 blasts transferred - 1st IVF - BFP !!
Beta 1,2,3 = 497 /4056 /16,896 - TWINS!
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Post by to_have_fun08 »

I have been kind of slacking with posting on all the boards. I am always checkinng to see how everyone else is doing but sometimes just dont have much to say.

So my Christmas shopping is all done. YEAH!!! Actually, I do all my shopping on line so it wasn't that hard. Thought I was done a few weeks back but then found out that one person already had the gift that I had ordered. Another present I ordered back in the beginning of Nov and still hadn't received so I had to cancel that order and find something else. Now I am not doing anymore. Just have to wrap everything. Also have to figure out what dishes and deserts I will be bringing to the holiday get togethers. So is it really bad that I don't have one Christmas decoration up? My husband is a scrooge. He works in the retail industry so the holidays are never fun for him. So if any decorations go up then it is really just for my enjoyment and I just haven't been in the mood to do that yet this year. I guess if I had kids it would be all different.

Now, I am just waiting for the consulation with the other RE on Tuesday. I hate waiting. Found another negative about the RE I spoke to last week. With this clinic you have to pay for everything up front. If the cycle is canceled for any reason, inluding a cyst, polyp, low response etc you are automatically out of $2000. They will not refund that money. What a crock. Has anyone else delt with this? Like I would have control over everything. What if I was in a car accident or something? I just don't like that so hopefully the the that I have a consultation with on Tuesday will have something good to say. If not you all will be hearing me whine for the next 2 or 3 months. :lol:

Hope everyone else is good.

Chris
Chris 40- DH 41
6 IVFs Cycles - BFN's
DE Cycle 2/2011 -BFP Jacob born 11/11/11

FET 7/2012 - BFP - Kaylee due 4/3/13

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Post by msfixit03 »

tohavefun - That dog/reindeer (seriously it looks like both) is SO CUTE! As for the money and RE, welcome to the "pay for your fertility treatments" world. :( I don't think we get refunded for anything. I guess the reasoning is that it's not their fault either that you didn't have a response or had a cyst and they did put the work into your visits and and "cycle management". They shouldn't charge for an actual retrieval or transfer if it doesn't take place. But a cycle management fee and all the visits fees would definitely have to be paid. Shouldn't be $2000, though. The ER and ET is where the big bucks are.

toobee - Thank you for being so supportive and caring. Unfortunately, there's really little I can think of that would need to be changed. My second job is a fitness instructor, so staying healthy, active and eating right is really important to me. I did stay away from teaching classes when I went through the IVF and for the 2WW after the FET. My RE knows that I do this and I listen to his recommendations as far as my activity level. When it comes to eating, RE made us see the nutritionist that works with his office. After we were done with that meeting, she told us that the way we eat is what she tells other people to do! Not only she didn't find any problems with our eating, but she said she wished everybody ate that well ;). So really, that's not it either. There could really be the whole natural thing of "it just didn't work out this time". It's not like people that don't have fertility problems get pregnant every time they have unprotected sex around ovulation (except for the Soap Opera one night stands, natch). So maybe, it just wasn't right this time.

We'll try again in February. We have two more left. Hopefully, they will survive the thaw. There's still hope (even if money is dwindling)
Me-35 DH-38
TTC over 3 Yrs
Endometriosis and PCOS
5 clomid cycles - BFN
4 - IUI w/Gonal F - BFN
IVF #1 - canceled. High Risk of OHSS
4 blasts frozen.
FET #1 - 12/3/08 - BFN
natural PG after FET #1 - M/C 9 weeks
FET #2 - 7/9/09 - 2 embryos - BFN
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msfixit - Don't drive yourself nuts looking at things you can change to make this work. You don't want to add unneeded stress because that will have a detrimental effect. That's the whole catch about this IVF business - we can't make it work. There are certain parameters within our control, obviously, but I believe there's no need to go nuts with herbs or macrobiotic diets and such. I've done acupuncture twice with my transfers - once I got a BFP but miscarried, once I got a BFN. This current BFP came without any acupuncture. So did the acupuncture have any positive effect? You can't say yes with any certainty in my case.

I guess my point is that externally I think there's only so much we can do, and the biggest thing is to relax. I feel that the embryo itself and the quality of your uterine lining are the primary deciding factors. And you make an excellent point that even fertile people don't get pregnant every time - why should we beat ourselves up because we don't either?
Amy
Me: 39 DH: 41 Male Factor
3yo DD from FET
IVF PGD clinical trial, FET Jan 2012 Beta 1/14 447, Beta 1/16 1161 U/S 1/30 it's twins!
Graham and Audrey born 9/5/12. 37w4d, no NICU time!
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msfixit03
I am so glad you eat healthy and live a healthy lifestyle, so you obviously have no possible issues there. Its so great you still have some totsicles and another FET you can ook forward to. I really hope it works for you next time, I really and truely do. I didnt know you were a fitness instructor, that's wonderful. Is that your full-time job? I used to run, but wont now, but man I really miss it, I have always been active. I thought about becoming a personal trianer for some time there, and still may when I get back in shape. I was into liftiing weights and everything and had a really toned body until I got sick a few years back.


To Have Fun-I loved your stickers and smileys!!! You add so much fun and color to these forums...How are you feeling these days?

As for me I have been ok, I have been feeling Braxton Hicks, and they arent fun. I really though it was too early but when I was at My Drs today I had one and she could feel how tight my belly got and now assured me what it was - so I was glad it happened while in her office. But I wish I didnt have them cause they are very uncomfrotable. I am starting to think I wil get every strange thing that can happen-
ME: 39 DH: 46 :) TTC for 8 years
3 miscarriages (concieved naturally)
3 blasts transferred - 1st IVF - BFP !!
Beta 1,2,3 = 497 /4056 /16,896 - TWINS!
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Hey Gals! :lol:
Well I have made a very personal decision to leave this thread. I hope and wish everyone well whether you are cycling, waiting to cycle, taking a break or are pregnant. Thankyou to all those who have encouraged me and supported me through a very challenging time in my life. Feel free to PM me if you would like to stay in touch. I will still have my account and will scour the boards and post from time to time when I feel I have something of value to say. All my best to all of you-

Happy Holidays and I wish you all a healthy, happy and fertile NEW YEAR!

Big Hugs to you all,
TooBee :wink:
ME: 39 DH: 46 :) TTC for 8 years
3 miscarriages (concieved naturally)
3 blasts transferred - 1st IVF - BFP !!
Beta 1,2,3 = 497 /4056 /16,896 - TWINS!
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toobee! I was just getting ready to type a reply to you. :( Best of luck and I hope that you keep us updated from time to time on how the girls are doing!

Chris - that nonrefundable 2k is scary. I hope you like this new RE's approach - otherwise it seems like it could be undue stress.
Amy
Me: 39 DH: 41 Male Factor
3yo DD from FET
IVF PGD clinical trial, FET Jan 2012 Beta 1/14 447, Beta 1/16 1161 U/S 1/30 it's twins!
Graham and Audrey born 9/5/12. 37w4d, no NICU time!
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toobee - aw.. :( We gonna miss ya. You're always so helpful and supportive! I hope the rest of your pregnancy goes well and your two little angels arrive with all the glory :).

Totsicles - Love it! What a great term :lol: Fitness instructor is my night job. I teach 6 classes a week: Turbo Kick (cardio kickboxing), Zumba, Step and Hip Hop. I also have a full time job as a computer programmer.

kerpupples - Thank you for your post. It is very much in tune with my own feelings. I do tend to feel guilty about not having done smth I should have and your perspective is really comforting to me. Like I tried acupuncture because everybody kept saying how it makes such a huge difference. But I didn't like it. It actually bothered me. And then I was feeling guilty for not forcing myself to do more of it. And here you are with your BFP without it. Makes me feel better :). I know I do everything I can to make this successful and the rest is up to the powers that be. I just can't obsess about what other little thing I could have done that would have made a difference. My life is in upheaval every time we go through this as it is. So thanks again for your words of encouragement :)

Hope everyone is having a nice Holiday Season. We are having a snow day here in SE Michigan. 6-10 inches expected. A pj-hot chocolate-fireplace day, yay! :)
Me-35 DH-38
TTC over 3 Yrs
Endometriosis and PCOS
5 clomid cycles - BFN
4 - IUI w/Gonal F - BFN
IVF #1 - canceled. High Risk of OHSS
4 blasts frozen.
FET #1 - 12/3/08 - BFN
natural PG after FET #1 - M/C 9 weeks
FET #2 - 7/9/09 - 2 embryos - BFN
to_have_fun08
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Post by to_have_fun08 »

toobee - Sorry you are leaving. At least it is for a good reason, You are PG and don't need to be on the IVF boards. I wish you the best in the future for you, your DH, Zoey and Chloe. Are you moving on to another board? Ya know I have to keep tabs on how your pregnancy is going. If you arn't drop me a PM sometime just to let me know how you are doing.

Have a Merry Christmas.


Chris
Chris 40- DH 41
6 IVFs Cycles - BFN's
DE Cycle 2/2011 -BFP Jacob born 11/11/11

FET 7/2012 - BFP - Kaylee due 4/3/13

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msfixit - It's taken me years to realize that I can only control what I can control. Accepting this really relieves one of a huge burden. I'm glad my words could help you! I did like the initial AP session I did where she put needles all down the sides of my spine - suprisingly relaxing. But I didn't find the pre/post ET sessions to be relaxing at all. I don't see how AP can help you if you're not comfortable with it so please don't feel bad about that!

Have a wonderful holiday all you wonderful ladies!
Amy
Me: 39 DH: 41 Male Factor
3yo DD from FET
IVF PGD clinical trial, FET Jan 2012 Beta 1/14 447, Beta 1/16 1161 U/S 1/30 it's twins!
Graham and Audrey born 9/5/12. 37w4d, no NICU time!
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Hey Everyone Merry Christmas!! , I can't believe how much catching up I have to do. I have 4 pages to read. I wanted to post now before catch up with you all. I got back from my trip to Europe on Dec. 23rd. I a still trying to catch up on my rest. It has been a busy time with jet lag, wrapping and Christmas.

I had a great time in Europe. My DH had a great 50th birthday over there. We went to Munich, Vienna and Prague. I did take it easy with me being pregnant and an amputee. Only so much walking I can do. We had maybe 5 hours a day where we would do stuff and lots of stops for hot drinks and resting. We did do a lot of walking and I actually lost a pound. :shock: I was eating o.k. over there. I just wish there were more choices of veggies :) My belly did get bigger, I just slimmed down in other areas. :wink: I think because I am overweight and did more walking than normal is the reason. I will see the doc on Wed and will talk to her about it. On Wed. i also have my u/s to check on the baby and to see what it is. I am so excited.

Hope everyone had a great Christmas and are doing well. Big hugs to everyone.
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IVF1a 2/08 ectopic before stims
IVF1b 5/08 canceled before ER
IVF1c-6/08 BFN
IVF#2 8/08 BFP!!:D 1st @ 52; 2 @ 1305
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Post by stefanie »

HEY Veronica - welcome back Glad you had a good time. I can barely walk around the block now w/ out getting totally winded... Happy new year to everyone. and best o luck to those going for it another round. May this be the year for all of us.
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Me and DH 40
TTC 2 yrs
4/07 BFP m/c 12 weeks
2 IUIs
IVF 1 Cancelled, IVF 2 BFN, IVF 3 BFP
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Post by to_have_fun08 »

Wanted to wish everyone a Happy New Year!!!

So glad to hear that all of your pregnancies are going well. Can't believe that you gals are so far along already.

Best Wishes to all.



Chris
Chris 40- DH 41
6 IVFs Cycles - BFN's
DE Cycle 2/2011 -BFP Jacob born 11/11/11

FET 7/2012 - BFP - Kaylee due 4/3/13

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