JAN/FEB/MAR 2009 Ladies!!! :arrow:

[dys24]

Hello Ladies,

Sorry for not writing I've been so busy. Well first bad news Af arrived 2 days before my beta so no point in even getting one ... the good news is I'm starting stims today for my new cycle which will be natural to. If this one doesnt work I think I'm going to start BCP at the end of Feb. for my next IVF. Now, since my fertility issue is me not ovulating, now that it works with using low dose of follistim do you ladies think I should try that couple of months? (with intercourse) or should I just shoot for IVF? I'm so confused not sure which route to go.

LadyJ thank you for remembering me I'm still here.. I was just so busy with work and attending countless babyshowers lol I swear out of 15 ladies at the shower there was 10 preggo ones and don't you all hate when they ask, "when are you going to be pregnant? "... In my mind I think if I could only get pregnant maybe I would answer you! urghhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry for venting , I think I'm going to go to McDonalds to eat a burger to ease away my frustration !!!

TKat congrats on your BFP!!!!

Hope everyone is doing good, lots of baby dust to all of you.

[CT_Michele]

dys- I am so sorry af showed up I was really prayin hard for you, but I am glad to hear you have new plans already. We really need to get pregnant together! I don;t know much about trying naturally, so I can't give much advice there. Maybe some of the wise ladies here can give some better advice than me.

There are so many ladies here, I am having trouble keeping up!

I know a couple of you are triggering today or tomorrow, jenn and waiting. Good luck and here's to a successful ER!

tohavefun- it looks like my protocol is going to be 375 units of follistim and one vial of menopur per day starting on 2/20. The follistim is higher to start this time. Last time I started with 225 I think, and he bumped it up after a few days, so he is just starting higher this time.

Jenn- I think your snow is coming my way. It looks like 12 hours of snow and slushy ice for us tomorrow. I wish it was today so I didn;t have to go to tutoring, but of course it is tomorrow when dh has his TESE consult and we are supposed to go to dinner and a movie (grandpa is going to babysit). Well, good thing we have 4 wheel drive!

Lady J- you always do such a good job with your posts! That is a funny nightmare, about enjoying the needles.

Rosario and spotoftea- I hope you are feeling better emotionally, I know this time can be difficult, especially when people are throwing things in your face like baby showers.

Ok, I know I forgot many of you, but I have to run to tutor the bright little children. I should get my med delivery tomorrow...weather permitting I guess. Talk to you all soon!

[mandeekins]

So I just heard from the clinic about my embies on ice. The nurse said there was a 12 cell, an 8 cell, and a 7 cell. These were all frozen on day 3. They said they froze the 12 and 8 together and the 7 on it's own. Anyone know why they would do that? I wasn't even thinking when I was on the phone with her! I'm really praying I don't need those babies!!!

On another note, I can still feel twinges of pain in my ovaries still just like when I was stimming. Is this normal for you ladies that have been through a cycle before?

Hope everyone is doing well today!

[to_have_fun08]

dys- so sorry it didn't work for you this month. Good thing you are starting again. As far as keep in trying it naturally, that is a good question. You are young and have lots of years left in you. Does your insurance pay for the drugs or are you out of pocket. I would think money issues would be the main factor to decide on keep doing in naturally or going through IVF. I am sure you are paying a pretty good amount with u/s, b/w and drugs to do it naturally. You might have a better chance of getting PG going through IVF and just paying a little more money. Hope that make sense. Good luck with this next month.

Lady_j - I also can't wait for the needles. I have all my stuff stacked in a corner on my kitchen counter. It is like they are calling my name.

I think I am going to put on my white panties with no liner. Maybe that will bring on AF.

Chris

[kcraven]

Ladies: Just a quick update. I had my u/s and bw this morning. They said I had 8 follies on the rt and 6 on the left. They did not measure the sizes. They said it is too early to do that. They said my lining is 4.5 which they said was thin but they expected that at this time. RE said that everything looked just as it should. I will hear later today the results of my bw and what dose I should take this evening. I'll check back in later this evening! Everyone keep you head up!!!

[prayin4BFP]

Went to REs office this morning and guess what? I gained 2.5lbs overnight!!! I am shocked. I am still stimming. I thought OHSS started after ER. SIGH! Anyway I am on bedrest today and will be back at REs office in the morning. The tech said she didn’t see any fluid around my ovaries but the RE is being overly cautious I guess. I hate being on bedrest. I feel so useless. I really need to vacuum and do a load of laundry but now I cant do anything. I am hoping I will trigger by Thursday. The tech said things looked good but I am not ready yet so I know it will be another day or so.

Mandeekins…thanks for the enthusiasm! I was wishing the snow would hold out until this weekend or at least until I could get the windshield fixed but the guy cant come til Thursday. We are looking at 4 inches of snow possible sleet and rain starting tonight into tomorrow morning. YUCK!

Nursegator..thanks for giving me a boost! I am tired but the drive wasn’t so bad this morning so I am thankful for that. I am averaging about 4 hours round trip but its shorter on the weekend when there is no traffic.

aspotoftea…I am sorry about the baby shower thing. I have come to the conclusion that some people are pretty self centered and have a hard time being sympathetic especially when they don’t understand what we go through. It doesn’t make them bad people it is just the way it is. I stopped getting upset when people made obnoxious comments or said things that weren’t the nicest. I guess I just rationalize it to myself that they don’t know what else to do.

Rosario…I am sorry you are down. I know how you feel. I wish things could be easier and it makes me wonder why some people can get pregnant at the drop of a hat and others cant. I hope you are feeling better.

Kcraven…I hope you are doing better with the needles. I felt so weird when I injected myself for the first time. Now I am an old pro. 

Molly23…wow that is amazing your follicle count! I am jealous!

TKat…hope you are feeling well!

DNT0809…I am sorry about your HPT. I know they are sensitive but you might want to consider going for your BETA anyway. You never know.

to_have_fun08…I know about waiting for the AF. It seemed like forever when I was waiting. It will come soon for you I hope.

Lady_J…thanks for all you do and for asking about me. Hope you are well.

dys24…sorry about your BFN. I hope you are ok.

Sorry if I missed anyone..hope everyone is doing well!

[Lady_J]

Chris... Smae thing with me, I have them all organized in the box they came in on the corner of my dresser... it's a funny thing cuz today I was grabbing a pair of socks from the bottom drawer and since the meds don't fit in the box , the flaps are all open. As I was coming up, I bumped my shoulder on the flap and I spoke to the meds. I said "are u trying to get my attention, you want me to start u already huh?" How embarrasing. I guess the meds r making me crazy... no really, I think they are. Ooowweeee, as for your white panties, go on girl, get dirty...lol .

Kcraven.... everything sound good so far. Good, u will be ready in no time.

Maneekins... conbrats on having some embies frozen... cuz they don't always make it to freeze so consider yourself blessed. As for the 12 & 8 and then the 7... Just in case this cycle doesnt work and u r ready for FET. I'm assuming they will put 2 back soi they want to start with the best and if u do 3 then they will thaw the 7celll as well. Hope I make sense. As for the pains... the pain on ovary is normal, basically the healing from ER mixed with the pressure it had from all the follies. Hope u feel better.

CT.... thank you. ANd happy tutoring and enjoy your meds.

Dys... I'm sorry that this cycle didnt work. I hope that it works on the next cycle. Now does the RE have u on stims? I had a question now that we r on the subject... if everything is ok and it is just that u r not ovulating, why didnt they just precribe clomid or something in that nature? Or were u on clomid before? As for the whole "everyone else beign pg but u". It happens all the time. And it doe sbother me when people ask me about having children.

So did anyone hear about the lady that had the 8 babies. I just can't get over it. Its so amazing.

[DNT0809]

Well, I just got AF. Weird this has never happened before either. During all 5 of my previous IVF's once I stopped the meds (PIO) then AF would come not the day before the BETA. But ladies I will definately know tomorrow. Another weird thing today was that today was day 9 of my NOVENA TO ST JUDE. I think I will try 1 more fresh then freeze all take a break then fo FET. Its so frustrating that they dont know why argh

Good luck to all of you & Baby Dust to all

[nursegator]

Tkat (or anyone else who knows): Who is the "typical candidate" for OHSS? I thought it was a random thing-- there is still so much for me to learn . Can't wait to hear how many little buns are in your oven.

dys: Good luck to you, whatever you decide. Vent as much as you need and enjoy that big fat cheeseburger!

LadyJ: Your dream cracks me up! What we have to go through just to have a baby! Looking forward to the needles, too. I just love the little follistim pen, clicking up the proper dose and charting everything in the little log-- is that sick or what? I guess it gives back a little of the control I've given up in this process. I like the idea of drawing the circles-- much easier than visualizing. During my IUI, the clinic nurse gave me my trigger shot-- I wonder if I'll still be doing it that way. I like your idea about white panties. Nothing like a pair of brand new panties to make AF visit in a hurry.

Mandeekins: Yes, hopefully you won't need any of your little snowflakes:). Did they freeze both of the larger-celled embryos together because they expect that you would transfer both of them at the same time? That is my guess. It doesn't seem like you'd be able to thaw them separately, if they've been frozen together. Again, just a guess .

Waiting for 4: So sorry to hear about all that extra drama. All of this is stressful enough, without having baby shower plans thrown in your face. I don't blame you for keeping it quiet. For me, it feels like "damned if i do, damned if I don't". The folks I haven't told, ask tons of questions about why we have no kids after 10 years of marriage, or assume that we don't want any. Why do fertile people believe that the whole world can get pregnant on demand? It's so irritating. And the people I have told, keep giving me inappropriate advice to "relax and it'll happen", stories about friends of friends who got naturally pregnant after adopting/using chinese herbs/giving up/standing on their heads etc etc. Either way-- the rest of the world just doesn't get it! Best wishes for your ER Friday .

DNT: Good luck with your beta results. I'm still fingers crossed for your BFP. Lots of babydust your way.

Kcraven: good luck with your shots. There's nothing in the rule book that you have to give them to yourself! Perhaps it gives DH a chance to be more involved in the process.

to have fun: Why not try LadyJ's white panty trick to convince AF to visit? Sounds like a winner to me .

Ladies, drive carefully in all that yucky winter weather and have a wonderful day.

[shelleyj5]

Sorry I've been MIA for the last couple weeks. I've been reading, just didn't have much to post on. I started stimming on Sunday and had bloodwork this morning. My estradiol was 216 after 2 days of stimming. They said this was normal, any input? Is it on the high or low side? I already am having back pain & feeling a little pressure, but maybe it's just in my head. I swear I've gone crazy! My next appt is on Friday for more labs and my first ultrasound to count follicles. Yeah!

There are a lot of us stimming now! How exciting. Good luck everyone!

[dys24]

Thank you all for your support! I'm doing ok, even thou I ask myself why I can't get pregnant, I mean I knew the exact hour of when I'll be ovulating and still nothing! On the other hand I'm looking forward to my new cycle because ovulation is only 2 weeks away

Michele- how are you doing? haven't heard from you in a while. I know maybe- NO WE WILL be pregnant at the same time! lol

to_have fun- the funny thing is my meds are covered 99% I only pay like $5 for 900iu Follistim so its really nothing. On the other hand my ivf is not covered at all neither is iui. so that's why I was trying naturally so i can avoid those costs. Also, to have couple of months to save up for another ivf if i needed it. So, thats why I'm stuck now that I can ovulate with follistim I'm wondering if I should try for longer time since I only tried once or should I just go for ivf

LadyJ- I did clomid for about 8 cycles and it made me ovulate on and off and it was also very irregular I didnt have the perfect 14days like I do with Follistim. Since I had great response from my ivf (i had 28 mature eggs) my Re figuered it would be a good idea to try naturally with follistim and I ovulated myslef with my own lh rise which he said was good. My hubbys sperm is great so he said we have a great chance, but I don't know if i'm willing to try for more than 2-3 months naturally. BTW i did hear about that lady with 8 kids, all i can say GL!!! lol i think 8 would be alittle too much forme lol now they didnt say how she got pregnant with all those but I figuered she must of had some fertility treatment...

shelley- 216 is great! mine was only about 54 at day2 at this stage its really too early to tell so dont worry about it. Everything is really going to start growing fast, so enjoy it , I had pain at the end but only because I was starting to get OHSS, but definetely had some twinges and pulls in my ovaries as soon as i started the stims.

[hopeful~n~09]

Hey all I just ran up on this forum and it looks like a great spot for support. I hope its ok that I join.

A little about me: I am 30 yrs old my husband and I have been trying for 3.5 yrs with no luck. We did Clomid for 15 month before they found out my tubes were blocked. I have PCOS and I will be starting my 1st round of IVF next month. Lupron shots on Friday Feb 13th!! My meds arrived this evening and I was like a kid in a candy store going through it all. How silly! lol But the needle for the PIO shots was much bigger than I expected!!

[Rosario]

Hey how are my fellow IVF-mates? Well I have been feeling really sick. I have terrible headaches along with bad tummy aches and feeling like i have to throw up =[ I must be coming down with something. Well I went for my ultrasound and I didn't ask how many follies I had or their size but I definitely saw some on the ultrasound. I am to return back for b/w and u/s again on Friday. On Friday I will be stimming for 7 days which would leave me at another week for possible ER. I was on stims last cycle for 14-15 days. Well I am heading back to sleep again. Hope everyone is well and please forgive me for not doing any personals.

[mandeekins]

I still feel fine, but really started feeling worn out and tired today. I'm off to bed when I'm done here. Everyone keeps asking me if I feel anything yet, and it's driving me crazy! I'm really trying to not concentrate on feelings down there because I don't want my hopes up because of some idea I have only to get a BFN. And of course when they ask me, I think about it! I'm still contemplating if I want to take a HPT next week or not. At this point it's a no, DH definately doesn't want me to and I'm too scared to! When did I become such a ninny? LOL Oh, and TMI, I have had gas ever since ET and I'm too scared to let it out! LOL What's up with that? So of course, my tummy hurts from that too! I crack myself up sometimes.

DNT0809 – Sorry AF arrived! But, I have heard you can still have a period and be pregnant. Keep your chin up and let us know how the BETA goes…Good luck!

Nursegator – My clinic had me sign up for their OHSS insurance because after my saline sonogram they thought I was at risk for getting OHSS. This was because I had polycystic ovaries, which I never knew I had. I’ve always had irregular AF but never thought anything of it. This is one of the symptoms of PCOS, Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome. That I know of, the people at the biggest risk of getting OHSS have PCOS.

Lady_J – You sound like me with the dreams! I always have the weirdest most vivid dreams and I’ll wake up and say to DH, “I had this dream last night…” at which point he rolls his eyes at me and says “What now?” and laughs. It’s been a joke since we met!

shelleyj5 – I can’t help you on the number game. All my RE ever told me was everything looks good. The only numbers I got was the count of the follicles as he told the nurse! And don’t worry, it’s not in your head…or I’m a head case too! I swore after my first day on stims that I could actually feel my ovaries swelling. DH laughed and said that was like him saying he could feel his left nut. I told him he just didn’t understand!

dys24 – Sorry the BFN It’s a good thing you get to jump right back in two weeks though!

hopeful~n~09 – Welcome to the board! I too was all excited about the delivery of meds…lol. Don’t be too scared about the PIO shots. I’m currently on those and I thought that needle would be horrible. I just about made myself sick to my stomach the first night DH gave me one. But, I followed waitings advice and laid in the fetal position for DH to stab me. I don’t even feel the needle anymore!

Rosario – I think the headaches have been the only really bad thing so far. Yeah, my boobs hurt but no more than when AF comes, and I feel like a pin cushion. But, I got headaches everyday on Lupron! So glad that parts done with! Hope you feel better soon!

[kimbob]

Hello everyone,
This board sure is a busy place. I can't keep up with everyone so I am sorry that I don't have personals for you all. I am sending PMA and babydust your way though!

JennLB25 - beta on the 13th sounds good to me. My lucky number is 13. Just don't think of it as being Friday the 13th, consider it being Valentine's Eve instead!

Praying4BFP - I have the same drive time as you. I promised myself I would not complain about the drive but I just don't like it. Last time we left at 6:35 and got there just at 8. Today we left at 6:25 and got there at 7:40. And it was snowing today - go figure. Without morning rush it would take just under an hour but with morning rush it is so unpredictable that I have to give myself at least 1.5 hours. Our return trip today was 4 hrs for a hysteroscopy. I figure that means that b/w and u/s appointments will take about the same amount of time.

Rosario - hang in there. I'm sending you PMA galore!

Tea - I am sorry you have to endure the shower issues. I am glad though that you have the ladies here to vent to. It has been my experience that many people do not understand how hard someone else's shower can be on us.

AFM - had the hysteroscopy this am - everything looks good. There was one little polyp that the RE took care of right then and there. I was so worried when I saw it that there was going to be an additional procedure to book and wait for and go through just because of this one little polyp. But alas, I got the green light. So, we bought all the meds. I asked if today was 'free med day' by any chance, no such luck So I will start synarel on 02/09 and expect AF sometime 10-14 days later, and then can start stimming. It all feels so real now!

Good luck to you all!!

kim