IVF over 40 Buddy Group........Membership Drive

[lynniecat]

Ok, so after me calling one billion times, I found out the amnio was clean, but they only tested 15 cells (they were supposed to test 50 since the marker was in 1/25 cells).

So I am happy, but I will try to get the actual DOCTOR tomorrow to ask about getting more cells tested (I hope its not too late)!

[Hil]

Lynnie,
I just want to say that is GREAT news!!!!!! I am so happy for you!!!!!!!And for all of us over 40+.......So sorry you had to wait for this news. BUT at least it is GREAT news!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugs,
Hil

[Suzanne18]

lynnie... that is great news, and I'm not trying to take away from your excitement - I would be as well!... but I'm a bit annoyed that they only tested 15 cells, particularly because you took the risk and deserve accurate results... is it because they were only able to "extract" (not sure of the proper term) 15 cells, or why???... I'm curious because I'm going to begin genetic testing in a few weeks and anything I learn from you/your experience can only help me understand the process a little better... hope you don't mind my asking.

but CONGRATS again... I'm sure that they're ALL clean

[Liam'sMommy]

Lynnie, i am so overjoyed for you. Those results are such a blessing. But that hag genetics counselor needs to be fired. WTF?

Bonnie, i forgot to tell you that the way you see it is the way i try to see it. You said, "For me personally, it isn't having faith in a BFP that I seek--but having faith I can trust that whatever happens--it will work together for good--even when I SO do not understand. I am PRAYING HARD for BFP for us all". I am guessing you are going to POAS everyday? Don't get too discouraged. I have seen many cases were people had no positive hpt, a questionable first beta and then the little bean really took off.

Sue, usually with BO your betas will not double correctly. Your have been good. Let's just hope that continues. I am sure it will.

AK, I thought your beta was Friday. Why won't you get results until Monday?

Missy, i am glad you have not had any more bleeding. I can't wait for the us results.

Hi Hil.

AGAIN, LYNNIE, i am sooooo happy for you!!!!!!

[Sisi1]

YEY Lynnie!

I told you good news were coming!

Congratulations, about time you got to enjoy your pregnancy!

I must admit if that was me in your shoes earlier today I would have gone over in person and demanded answers!

[bonnie]

Hip Hip HOOORAH Lynnie!!

that is such fantastic news!

I know you will do your diligence to see about the number tested--and I agree that it is time to enjoy your pregnancy! So happy for you. and so heppy to see all the support for you.

what a journey

[AKMom]

Hi all.

Lynnie C ---yahoooooo! Thank God eh? Sorry you had to wait soo damn long.

This 2WOH what a buncha of bullshit! UGGHH… So I did it, I broke down, I prayed, begged for a sign to go an POAS…so I do, not only did I get a BFN but it was a BFUglyN! So I freak out and whine to our resident EXPERT---Kelly (Thank God for her), and she tells me “oh girl that is too early!!!!” so she has given me hope once I again.

My 2WOH is up this Saturday. I will go to my OB and get my Beta...on MONDAY! Ya, I know. LAME! My OB is working closely with RE since they overstimulated me and her office isn’t open on the weekend. SO I could torture myself more and keep PingOAS or I could just wait. I thought about doing it this coming Wednesday, but I don’t want to be disappointed, I will be so crushed.

When I saw that negative, I gotta tell ya, I was devastated!!!!! It Ruined my whole weekend. All the hormone symptoms (disguised as pregnancy ones) went away. I try to stay positive but I want to be realistic. So what do you think? Should I or not?

The things going on with my body are weird, they seemed more prevalent (symptoms) from ER until I took that damn test. Most noticeably today is my back ache and my hips (my hips---which is a symptom I had early on in my previous pregnancies.—I was a competition gymnast for 15 years…my hips are not in the best of shape these days.) Breast tenderness has lightened up a little, I get the feeling of being car sick from time to time, but it goes away…I understand that a lot of these feelings are PIO related and there's the fact that I feel like the “ol HAG” is going to show her flaming face any day! God I hate that *****!

S’cuze the cus words, I really hate Mondays!

So should I? POAS? Am I delusional? Anyone else have early symptoms like this? The feeling that AF is right around the corner, oh and get this…..I don’t feel all bloated, all the time, only some of the time, and I haven’t gained any wt since ER..in fact just the opposite. I am so dreading the thought of having to do this again.

Lots of Hugs to you ladies. I think about you all during the day….Santa where are you?

Thanks for you input gals!

Kat

[teachertam]

Lynnie: Wonderful news!!!!!!!!! You deserve to relax and enjoy being preggers.

Kat: Sorry the POAS had to ruin your weekend. Try to relax and I know that is better said than done.

Kelly: I will start the Femara with my next cycle. I could wait until I get the FSH results, but what the heck.

Bonnie: Sorry to hear that you have been getting negative POAS too. It is probably too early.

Hello to everyone else.
Tammy

[missygirl]

Lynnie...about time that chick got back to you...and with GREAT news! I too would be annoyed they didn't do all they should have but at least the early news is GREAT!!! Hope you get more answer today.

Kat.....If your test is Saturday and you want to POAS, wait until Thursday or Friday morning....that is when I did it! Good luck!!

Thanks Liam's mommy for thinking of me.....24 hours to go!!!

Missy

[bonnie]

ok POAS people!!!

I looked back on my calendar (I keep everything in my outlook!) and saw that for my last 2 pregnancies i had a pos HPT well after my missed AF. And i can assure you it wasnt for lack of trying...I am a glutton for punishment.

In my first natural pregnancy--which was about 14 months ago--i finally got a pos on hpt on day 34 of my cycle--and my cycles were like clockwork-28 days. this pregnancy went to 12 weeks--heartbeat was strong--betas were great--so it wasnt because it was a weak start.

my second natural pregnancy was 8 months ago and i got a pos on hpt on day 35--still running 28 day cycles. i mc'd at 7 weeks--betas were initially good--but slowed down before the mc.

So th challenge with IVF is WHO KNOWS what the heck is going on with my cycle! how does the estradiol and prometrium not to mention the lupron effect a pos HPT or my cycle length.

The one thing the nurse told me on my transfer day was that my beta would be before my expected AF. I was asking her if i would start my AF before the beta.

So PROBABLY the best thing is to wait for the beta. But i of course POAS'd again this am--yes BFN. I really am ok--and i guess like everything else in this crazy world--we have to listen to our own hearts. Know thyself. If i thought i would crash over a POAS BFN--i would not do it.

SO--my beta is actually 9dp5dt. Has anyone ever heard of a false neg on the beta at 9 days? It seems like others are waiting longer to test.

i had what felt like pms bloating yesterday--but it's gone now. I am really tired--but it could obviously be the stress.

thanks to you all for hanging with me!
bonnie

[njsurga]

Lynnie: That is great news and some is better then none right?
Kat: So glad to hear your bleeding has subsided!! Just relax!!

OK..here is my deal. I took my 3rd day cycle test too early last week. I was spotting and thought that was it for this month cuz I never spot. Then yesterday AF shows up full flow! So I'm taking my u/s and bloodwork again tomorrow. I only had 3 follies last week, would that be about right for 5 days before AF? I'm hoping for a better count tomorrow!!!

<3 Sharon

[Liam'sMommy]

Bonnie, i have seen lots of times were first beta was negative but second was positive.

Sharon, you goofball. You may have a lot more going on in there this time. FX.

Kat, what are you doing? Peeing on twigs to get your fix?

Santa, i hope you are okay.

ME

[AKMom]

Gals:

Nope! NO peeing on sticks for me! I cant take the thought of a BFN--I dont even know how I feel anymore, I have convinced myself that I am not feeling any symptoms anymore....but this lady in the furniture store almost made me puke....I could smell her, not-- like her cologne, but --- "HER" like she hasnt washed her hair...just typing it makes my throat feel closed and my tongue feel fat! icckkk!

So I attribute all these weird things to the PIO..what happens when I stop taking it? Friday is my last day. The DR has not Rx'd more. I have read that in some cases women have to take it to stay preg is this true? So I figure that it is all PIO related, in fact, my "symptoms" are less than they were after ER and 5 days after transfer. Is this normal?

I try to think back to other times I was PG, and I dont really remember anything significant. Plus that, I wasnt as anxious nor was I aware of any embies being in me...like I am now. This 2WOH of hell is cah cah...and they say the 1st U/S after a pos is worse! But I would glad knowing i was pg...oh well.

L8r L8dies

Kat

[teachertam]

Kat: You should continue taking the progesterone injections, if you are pregnant. I took them every day for the entire first trimester!
My RE feels strongly about taking them. You should call you RE if you
will run out of shot before your beta.

Sharon: You crack me up. Good luck on your "actual cycle day 3 FSH".

Take care all,
Tammy

[lynniecat]

Yeah, I would have gone over in person, but I live in CA and they are in MD!


Anyway, I talked to my new genetic counselor at UCSF and here is the deal with these tests. They may get a bunch of cells to look at from the amniotic fluid, but the cells have to be at the right stage. So when cells divide, its called mitosis (maybe you all remember from high school bio). Mitosis has a few different phases. Metaphase is when the chromosomes all line up on the spindle. This is when they do the karyotypes to look at the chromosome. The new counselor said that 15 is standard unless they get an abnormal, then they go to 50. However, with my amnio, they got only normal cells, but she thought considering the CVS, they should have gone till they ran out of cells in metaphase. Since they did 15, not 19 or 23 or some odd number it seems they did not go till they ran out. Seem unlikely they had exactly 15 cells! KWIM?


I am still waiting to get to the bottom of this. I gave them one day to call me, I have no idea when I did that. I guess I was not feeling well this morning, but I am definitely calling tomorrow.


My thoughts on these tests, I would always do an amnio as that really tests the baby. CVS is great cause its around 11/12 weeks and amnio is not till 15, but man knowing how things in the placenta and baby can be different has really made me think!


I still need to catch up. I did see that Sue got a BFP! YAY!

I responded by PM to Renee's very sad news and I am hoping that as soon as her DH gets back she will have another natural BFP, a very very sticky one!