JUNE/JULY 09 cycle buddies

[Kushka]

Hi June/July buddies,

Well I'll start with the latest from me. The clinic just called. Of my 13 follicles they only got 3 eggs, 2 of which are good quality and have fertilized. On the one hand I'm so excited because this is the furthest we've ever got to being pregnant, and they fertilised naturally, rather than ICSI. On the other hand I feel so disappointed to have such a small number of eggs. My egg reserve is obviously much lower than any of us though. So, nothing to freeze, and I guess it doesn't look good for the future. But at least we have 2 x good quality to transfer. Transfer will be on Wednesday.

Sabi - So happy for you that you have 12 fertilised. That is awesome and I'm just a teensy weensy bit jealous (see above).

Nicksgam - Congrats on your HPT and good luck for your beta today. Let us know how you get on.

EYCI - You made me laugh so much with your potty training night of doom. It sounds exactly like the sort of mayhem that goes on in hour house regularly! Congrats on your HPT. So exciting! And sorry about the migraine. I get bad ones too and can't imagine how it'll be w/out the drugs...

Belle - 25 follices is awesome. Hugely good luck for your ER today.

Wishfull - Prague sounds heavenly. Glad you're having time off work.

Sunshine - Hope those follies are growing nicely.

Mike&Jess - Well done for getting through your sister in law's shower. My sister in law (who is a total *****, doesn't speak to her brother (DH) for no apparent reason and who has always said she 'despises' people who have children and who thinks IVF twins would 'a total nightmare') has just got pregnant. How is that fair??! Best thing about being British is they don't really go in for baby showers the way I think you do in the USA.

CT_Michele - Thanks for your advice when I was having my little freak out yesterday. You always have such wise words. Thanks! Hope all is going ok for you.

Katie - Glad we're in the same boat with regards to RE. And yes, mine has a brain the size of a planet too, so I guess that's what counts. Do you have a date for your ER

OK, that's all from me. I'm going to go away and think happy thoughts about 2 little dividing embryos....

Love to all.
Dx

[sbr]

Kushka, I'm sorry to hear that you didn't get as many fertilized eggs as you were hoping for. You sound like you've got a good attitude about it, though. I'll be praying the transfer goes well. Then you can join me in the dreaded 2ww, and trust me, it's dreaded!

Belle, You should be retrieving as we speak! I hope it went well...many eggs...but not too many to cause OHSS!! CALL ME!

Sabi, Another ET on Wed! Busy day Wed, you, Kushka and Belle will be transferring together that day!! A good day....Good luck!

Katie99, Patience dust coming your way....if I can steal some too!! A two hour drive each way sounds horrid. Hang in there!

Julie and Nicole, I can't wait to hear the official news. I'm hoping I'm right behind you! What day post transfer did you POAS? I'm still debating!

Michele, Bummer that you didn't have a syringe. I hate that those kits only come with 14 syringes. I always ran out. I'd save a couple "just in case" I ran out and I did end up reusing a couple. I know that's not ideal, but it's not like I was sharing needles with anyone else!!! Let us know what your RE says about missing the dose?

Sunshine, Glad AF showed up and now you can begin stimming! Happy follicles to you!

Chris, I can understand trying not to get too wrapped up in the boards. While they're wonderful, I find that sometimes I start worrying about things that I never worried about at all with my first cycle because I was oblivious and no involved in an online community! Just take the good from the boards and say hello when you feel up to it!

Wishful27, we have our betas on the same day. I'm going nuts and it's only day 3 post transfer. I am not cut out for this 2ww! Are you going to POAS? I'm still debating!

Sorry to those I missed. Baby dust to all!

AFM, AHHHHHHHH!! I HATE THE 2WW! I am feeling better about it this morning than I did all weekend. I had a meltdown yesterday morning. My son (2 yrs) stayed with my parents over the weekend and before we went to get him we converted his crib to a "big boy bed." I absolutely melted down thinking I may never get to use the crib again. Not to mention, my baby is growing up! My DH looked at me and said, holy smokes, I didn't realize you were having so much trouble. Well, OF COURSE I AM! I'm the one pumping myself with massive doses of hormones and I'm the one either accepting these embryos or rejecting them. He's just always Mr. Positivity, and it's hard sometimes.

I really wish that my embryologist wouldn't have told me the cell numbers of my embryos. I'm really hanging on that worrying. Never before has my clinic ever told me anything real specific. Only, they look good, beautiful, etc..... I think they do that on purpose!

I have a sunny, beautiful day ahead, so I'm going to try to keep busy scrapbooking, reading, sitting in the beautiful weather, etc. DS is at daycare this week so I don't have to worry about keeping him busy while I should be taking it easier.

BTW, I'm still waffling on POAS. I have two tests left from my last cycle. I'll probably use them, but I hope to hold out til pretty close to my beta. Suggestions? Beta is next Wed.

~Sarah

[CT_Michele]

kushka- I am sorry to hear that you did not get as many embryos as you had hoped, but 2 is good, and I will be sending loads of sticky dust your way for wednesday.

sarah- I guess you read my post about running out of syringes. Ugh, I am so mad, because I had lots of extra needles, that I think I accidently sent to someone who I gave extra meds to from my last cycle. Anyway, I was totally going to reuse one, even though your not suppose to, because I thought the same thing, it's not like I am sharing them and one won't hurt. But dh does my shots, and he absolutely refused, he said it was gross and I couldn't do that. He is med certified, so I listened, even though I didn't want to. Oh well, my new kit will be here today, and I have another week and a half until u/s and bw, so I am sure it won't matter any.

as far as you POAS...you know I am the hpt queen, so I would say do it, but if you only planning on using 2, I would wait some time, maybe do one on monday and one on tuesday? Try to hang in there and not go crazy on the 2ww, I know it is hard. And I know what you mean about your little baby growing up...mine is doing the same thing.

katie- thanks for the kind words about DD...I also happen to think she is a cutie and a half...but my opinion may be a bit bias

Ok, I am going to call the clinic about my missed lupron...I am sure it will be fine. Talk to you all soon.

[EYCI]

Sarah – I POAS at 11dpo (8dp3dt). I had planned to wait until 14dpo (beta wasn’t until 17dpo) but broke down in a moment of weakness. I would think you’d be ok to test on Monday or Tuesday next week. I am keeping everything crossed for you and hoping for the BFP that you deserve! I too have gotten very sentimental with all of my DS’s stuff, not knowing if would ever be used again. I am cautiously optimistic right now. Try not to worry about your cell counts. I think 4 cells are normal for 2dt, and 8 cells are typical for 3dt. Since you were between 2-3 days, they sound just right. My DS was a 4 cell 2dt. In fact, he is a twin (lost baby A at 11.5 weeks) and his twin was also a 4 cell 2dt. I think the bigger issue is if they are fragmented. Both of my embryos were fragmented this time, but at least one has stuck so even that can be ok.

Nicole – So excited to hear your beta # today! It will be great to see you move to an official BFP on the list!

Carolyn – How is the 2ww going? That is so cute about your DH not leaving you alone. I’m glad you are enjoying your time in Prague and will have a couple days more at home before going back to work.

CK121 – Welcome! How is stimming going?

Mikeandjess – Hugs to you for making it through the shower.

Prayin4BFP – How is your DH doing? I hope ok. Tell him to get well soon so that he can take care of you on your 2ww coming up!

Katie99 – I feel so bad for you with the 2 hour / one way drive. Uggh! Did you have to go back in with the mix-up?

Rosario – How are you feeling? Your body must be sooooo busy right now! I pray for them all to stick!

Kushka – I wish that more had fertilized for you guys. But, you still have 2 right? I am praying for a great transfer for you. Wednesday will be a great day for you I’m sure!

Sabi – 12 is a great number! Sorry if this is rude, or too personal… I am just wondering if you get to keep all the embryos. I wasn’t sure if your donor was sharing a cycle with you, or just donating all of them. Again, if that’s too personal, I’m very sorry. I was just curious how that all worked. I think it is so wonderful that women can do that for each other! Good luck on Wednesday!

Debbie67 – I think it is ok that you are bleeding now on the Provera. The doctors just want to make sure that the old lining sheds. You should be ok for your US in a week.

Belle-02 – I’m hoping your retrieval went well today. Not much longer until you are PUPO! Hilarious detailing of the shot at work. DH and I had to do that once too! Good luck on Wednesday!!

Chris – Thanks for checking in with us again. Did you get your drugs ordered yet? When that big box shows up, that’s when it always hits me that it is for real. Let us know how the baseline goes.

Sunshine.12 – Yeah for stimming! I hope your injections are going well! It is exciting to be moving one step closer!

Michelle – I hope you are not worrying too much about your missed lupron shot. I also ran out of syringes one time, and DH had the sense of mind to run to a 24 hour pharmacy and get me one. I never would’ve thought of that. I guess DHs are good for some things. Are you enjoying the summer with Ella?

AFM – just anxious for the beta tomorrow and follow-up test on Thursday. DH and I saw "The Hangover" on Sunday. It is absolutely hilarious if you enjoy crude, immature humor (like 40 year old virgin or Forgetting Sarah Marshall). I was in tears crying at the end because I was laughing so hard.

I’m sorry if I’ve missed anyone. The boards have been so busy!

[sbr]

Julie, The story keeps getting frighteningly closer! Jack was a twin too! I lost "Baby B" at 10.5 weeks. How incredibly weird, huh? I thank you so much for tell me your cell numbers, because that helped me. I'll go on the fact that my embryologist said I was a 2.5 day transfer, making one of the embies perhaps a bit slow and the other a bit faster! I'll just pray pray pray that I do get to use all of our baby stuff again. You verbalized exactly what my tears are when I get sentimental over Jack getting older. I've been SO GOOD about enjoying every stinking moment in his life. I document everything! We took him to his first movie last week and I took the camera for heaven's sake. Having an IVF baby makes you really appreciate them that much more, I think! Are you having any "pregnancy feelings"? My boobs hurt SO BAD, but I know it's from the progesterone.

Thanks,
Sarah

[mikeandjess]

Kushka - Sorry to hear about your 2 eggs but remember - it only takes 1! My sister-in-law and my DH don't get along either. They really only talk on Holidays. I know it sucks that all these people can reproduce naturally. But look at all the work we've gone through to do it. Well being British has it's perks then - if you don't have to deal with baby showers like we do - it's the pits! Hope the ET goes well! Sticky Vibes to you!!!

sbr - I'm POAS this time. I say go for it. It's not going to change the outcome. If it's gonna happen - it's gonna happen. That's just my opinion. Keep us posted! Listen to Michele about when though - she's a pro-POASer! LOL!

EYCI - beta tomorrow!! Yeah!

Hello to all! Prayers!

[angeinhull]

Hi all

Wow there is so much going on it is hard to keep up!

Kushka - As all have said it only takes 1! Good luck and I hope all goes well for ET. It is great not having the baby showers like you say cos otherwise I would be attending one every couple of months at the moment.

EYCI and nicksgam- good luck with beta

mikeandjess - I like the way you put it about POAS, your right it wont change anything. Last time dh would not accept the idea and he is adamant this time aswell. He says when we get there we will just wait. My clinic do not do betas anyway it is just a POAS at day 14.

CT_Michele - I hope the clinic weren't bothered about your missed injection. I'm sorry you've been delayed again but at least you can enjoy the wedding.

Belle - How did it go?

Rosario - triplets! Wow that is great. Put your feet up and relax.

Sorry for those I have not replied to but you are all in my thoughts.

AFM, I am injecting the buserelin every night. I am being very lucky with the side effects (touch wood) at the moment. Dh pampered me all weekend to get away from the stress of work and I feel quite relaxed now. Although I did feel guilty when he was doing the housework, cooking and gardening and I only did ironing.

Also, my boss has just got back from his hols and has been great about me being off during the FDA audit we have. I start stims on 24th and all being well ER will be 8th of July (although obviously this is if we are lucky and all goes to plan). Well, my boss said not to worry that they will get the person who used to do the job to be there, I bet she'll be pleased!

So now I feel quite positive about the whole thing.

Take care all

[Debbie67]

Don't really have time to chat, gotta go to work toinight.. although I did copy and past this for you all to read.. I can relate to this!!
I will check in and catch up on reading tomorrow night! Hope you enjoy this

Recently, I was diagnosed with A.A.A.D.D. -
Age Activated Attention Deficit Disorder.

This is how it manifests:

I decide to water my garden.
As I turn on the hose in the driveway,
I look over at my car and decide it needs washing.

As I start toward the garage,
I notice mail on the porch table that
I brought up from the mail box earlier.

I decide to go through the mail before I wash the car.

I lay my car keys on the table,
put the junk mail in the garbage can under the table,
and notice that the can is full.

So, I decide to put the bills back
on the table and take out the garbage first.

But then I think,
since I 'm going to be near the mailbox
when I take out the garbage anyway,
I may as well pay the bills first.

I take my check book off the table,
and see that there is only one check left.


My extra checks are in my desk in the study,
so I go inside the house to my desk where
I find the can of Pepsi I'd been drinking.

I'm going to look for my checks,
but first I need to push the Pepsi aside
so that I don't accidentally knock it over.

The Pepsi is getting warm,
and I decide to put it in the refrigerator to keep it cold.

As I head toward the kitchen with the Pepsi,
a vase of flowers on the counter
catches my eye--they need water.

I put the Pepsi on the counter and
discover my reading glasses that
I've been searching for all morning.
I decide I better put them back on my desk,
but first I'm going to water the flowers.

I set the glasses back down on the counter,
fill a container with water and suddenly spot the TV remote.
Someone left it on the kitchen table.

I realize that tonight when we go to watch TV,
I'll be looking for the remote,
but I won't remember that it's on the kitchen table,
so I decide to put it back in the den where it belongs,
but first I'll water the flowers.

I pour some water in the flowers,
but quite a bit of it spills on the floor.


So, I set the remote back on the table,
get some towels and wipe up the spill.

Then, I head down the hall trying to
remember what I was planning to do.

At the end of the day:
the car isn't washed
the bills aren't paid
there is a warm can of Pepsi sitting on the counter
the flowers don't have enough water,
there is still only 1 check in my check book,
I can't find the remote,
I can't find my glasses,
and I don't remember what I did with the car keys.
Then, when I try to figure out why nothing got done today,
I'm really baffled because I know I was busy all darn day,
and I'm really tired.

I realize this is a serious problem,
and I'll try to get some help for it,
but first I'll check my e-mail....

Do me a favor.
Forward this message to everyone you know,
because I don't remember who I've sent it to.
Don't laugh -- if this isn't you yet, your day is coming!!

[Kushka]

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone for your kind thoughts and words. I'm feeling much better now than I did this morning. The way I see it now is that we have two high quality embryos that are dividing as I type (I feel quite protective of them already - is that too weird?!). We were only ever going to put 2 back in anyway, so we totally have what we need for now. And if for some crazy reason it doesn't work this time around I guess my RE will know a bit more about my body and adjust my doses to make up for my poor response.

I just wanted to say something to all of you discussing POAS. I spoke to my friend today who is 8 months pregnant after her first go at IVF (and she only had ONE embryo!) and she made me promise that I wouldn't POAS because she did and the result was negative. She was totally distraught for 2 whole days but when she had her blood test she was pregnant. So just thought I'd share that with you....

Good night all.
Kx

[CT_Michele]

Kushka- your friend was probably a late implanter, like I was. If you ask her what her beta number was, it was probably pretty low, mine was only a 44 at beta(15dpo). For my first ivf with DD, I did not get a super faint positive line until less than 24hrs before what would have been my scheduled beta (my beta would have been christmas, but everyone was closed, so it was the day after). Anywho...at first, when I started the hpt's I expected negatives, so it didn't bother me, but the closer I got to beta, I was devastated. It is a hard thing to go through, but I will continue to torture myself. I just have to try and pray I see that second line. Even the first ivf when I had so many negatives, seeing the faint line was the best thing I have ever seen, so all the negatives were worth it. But again, I tell people all the time, nothing is official until beta, and if you can't deal with seeing a negative, then don't do it!

angie- the clinic was fine, they told me if my package came before noon, do one dose right away and then another tonight, and that's what I did since it came around 10am. I don't think it really mattered since it isn't doing what it is supposed to anyway. I am glad to hear your boss is being so good about time off, especially during such a hectic time at work.

julie- so smart of your dh to run to a 24hr pharmacy, I don;t know why I didn't think of that, there is one down the street and they are the same needles used for insulin, so I am sure they have them. I really should have thought of that, when I cycled last time, they forgot to put in a follistim pen and my first reaction was to call pharmacies, but I guess not this time! Good luck on beta tomorrow...but it sounds like you already know what it's going to be...so an early congrats, but I can't wait to hear the number.

what an exciting thread right now, so much activity to keep up with! I will check in again soon.

[KayCe]

Hi everyone!! It feels really weird crashing here since I know you guys started this thread so long ago!!! CT_Michele and Kushka suggested I posted here instead of starting a new board all over again!!!

So a little about myself. This will be our 4th IVF. We have a DS from our first try but we haven't been that lucky since. I'm a super poor responder and right now I'm on antagonist protocol with climara patches. I just have to wait for AF to arrive, then I will start on the injectables (600IU GonalF).

I'm sorry I'm not doing any personals but it will take me a while to catch up on this thread!!!. Good luck to all you out there...

[CT_Michele]

Kayce- I am sure you will catch up in no time! I am glad you decided to join us, the more the merrier. We are in similar situations, as in we are both trying for number 2, as are a couple other people here. I had DD with my first ivf, I just finished an unsuccessful attempt and now I am waiting for an FET. I see your location says "RSC MA." Is that massachusetts? What does RSC stand for? I will add you to our list. Let meknow when you have more dates and I will update it.

[CT_Michele]

Kushka – ER June 14 - 2 embies, ET June 17
deftonesmo - stim start June 6, ER June 17
belle-02 – stim start June 5
katie99 - stim start June 11
sabi - donor ER June 12
sunshine.12 - stim start June 13


Almost there...on Estrogen for FET
prayin4BFP - FET June 26
mikeandjess - FET June 30



EYCI (Julie)- ET June 3, beta June 17
wishfull27(Carolyn) – FET June 11, beta June 24
Sbr (Sarah) – FET June 12, beta June 24


morningglory - on bcp's, start stims/microdose lupron June 18, estimated ER July 1
stay positive - start stims June 21, ER July 2, ET in August
Brighty – Fresh June
angieinhull - June
to_have_fun08 (Chris) - start stims around June 26
ls4 (Lisa) – on bcp's, Lupron June 1, estimated ER June 23
wolffie(dani) - FET June/July
Wickedwheel – ER/ET week of June 23
tanya123(Tanya) – Fresh June/July
KayCe - July, waiting for AF
Paytonsmommy (Carrie) – Fresh July
sprouthaus – Fresh July
statsgoddess - Next try in August
josee1973 – Fresh
sokru8(Sonya) - Fresh
marymeganb - ER July 17, ET July 20
debbie67 - ER first week of July, ET July 13/14/15
ct_michele - on lupron, FET July 22?
hjw(Hazel) - FET July 27/28

Beta Results

Rosario – BFP! OMG! It's Triplets!
nicksgam(Nicole) - BFP!

[Rosario]

EYCI I don't feel pregnant at all. I have cramps sometimes and the spotting is very little. Now i worry since i have no symptoms. I guess I will just take it one step at a time!

[katie99]

Hi everyone!!

Its official -my brain is fried. I had to add yet a 6th visit this week to my RE to redo b/w that a certain nurse mislabeled. OK thats fine I mean I really want this to work so I'll go every day if I have to. By the way he lowered my bravelle dose based on this b/w. I dont know whose it was though. ARRGGG! Heres my morning - 4am DH wakes me up to tell me he's lost his wallet. Great! Begin to tear house apart. Nothing. 5am on phone cancelling everything while staring at clock because have to get on the road by 5:30. Get on the road to sit in constuction traffic. YAY! continue to panic ( I really hate to be late ) Arrive at clinic to have same nurse poke in both arms before having to take blood from my hand. OW and OW! Now sit in traffic to get home in a panic because I'm supposed to do injection at 9:00 and its now 10:00. OK finally home now I can relax? RE calls to up my dose back to the original level. OK by me - as I'm thinking he doesn't know the nurse mislabeled at all. they also love to tell their patients to stay calm & relaxed. OK but it them thats getting me all worked up 4pm - find DH's wallet in recliner and think my heads going to explode like a cartoon How many more days left? Shoot me now! thanks for letting me vent guys.....

hugs & sticky baby dust! oh yes, and lots of PMA !