What are the chances?

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 2:42 am

Gi, I'll keep on praying for you. How are those progesterone shots do they hurt alot? I've had 5 surgeries before and this transfer makes me nervous!!!!! I'm going to the DR on monday, hopefully I'll start my stims if everything goes well transfer around early september. I just received my meds and the copays to go with it. In Ire is everything paid for? I'm relaxed somewhat went to the shore for a week was nice to get away. My daughter had a blast. Keep thinking positive and take it easy make hubby do everything around the house.TONS OF BABY DUST TO YA!!!!! Keep us posted.

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:07 am

ERT, I know people can say really stupid things and are very insensitive. I try and block out what they say or turn it around and tell her how you feel make her feel stupid like she truely is. I have a daughter and I feel I don't get much support anymore. I think alot of family were more supportive when we didn't have my daughter. Now I get the feeling that we have a child so it should be good enough. We never had been through IVF before so I think alot of people look @ us like it isn't neccessary cause we have a child. Alot of family they don't even bother to ask us questions anymore. I get the feeling they don't really care. Keep your head up and blast that girl if she says something stupid again. Sometimes I get disgusted with all the infertility problems I've had over the years and want to quit but then I look @ my gorgeous girl dancing around the family room and know I would do it over and over again.

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:41 am

Starwishes, hope you are feeling better. It definitely takes time but don't ever lose hope. Even after my daughter I still think about the 2 pregnancies I lost and how cruel life can be. But having my daughter was the best thing I've ever done and well worth the wait.My daughter is daddy's little girl they have a very close bond together. I know we do spoil her I think maybe cause of appreciating how hard it was to have her. She is definitely loved. Take time for yourself now and take one day @ a time.

gi · Post by gi » Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:13 pm

Hey jenice,

Thanks for your prayers i need all the help i can get!!! I am using progesterone suppositories so no shots very easy! Day 3 today and bit crampy have to admit doubts have already kicked in, we want this soooo much but its really hard to believe that i can do it again, it took me 5 tries for last pregnancy and i am like thinking i can hardly do 2 in a row!! We are ttc 7 years in Sept and i seriously wish this ivf business was all over so we can finally start living - our 20's have been consumed with infertility and we are both 30 very shortly so we really want to start a new decade as a proper family.
Sorry to hear you are not getting the support you need some people are so inconsiderate at times its a blessing you have a daughter but ye really want a sibling, no one deserves to suffer from infertility i really wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Are you excited that you are nearly there???
In Ireland you have to pay privately though its not expensive compared to US, fresh cycle is around €5000, FET around €900, and all meds are only €100 so i suppose not too bad though after 6 attempts it has added up and unfortunately we are running out of savings, we were due to get married next year but if this ivf fails i will have to cancel the wedding

we are together 12 years and j is my 1st and only boyfriend so there is nothing i want more than to give him a family and get married....ah well time will tell.

gi xxx

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 6:39 pm

Gi, how long do you have to wait? Is it like 9 more days till you test? ivf in US can cost for fresh cycle I think about $20,000 that might include meds too. We have insurance so we pay some co-pays. I had quit my job to stay home with my daughter and to do IVF. To hard going back and forth to DR offices all day and I used to work 2nd shift. I'm going to have to takethe progesterone IM injections. The needles are 1.5 inches long!!!! (OUCH) I went for my baseline ultrasound and b/c today so I guess if everything is okay they will call me tonight. I'm not excited right now I feel mentally drained. I guess I just don't want to get my hopes up yet. The first cycle i had been really excited and then it was cancelled. I'm 37 years old and I feel like time is running out. I feel almost like this is my job getting stuck with needles and DR appts.Sometimes I'm just not into it anymore with trying but I know I still won't give up. I told my hubby even if they ever tell me I'm pregnant I probably won't believe it till my belly starts to grow. Sorry for being so blah just not looking forward to getting stuck for the next 3 months. The really sad thing is I don't even mind needles that much but 3 months is a little excessive!!!! The progesterone IM is for 8-10 weeks. Keep praying for you and try to rest. Implantation can cause you to be crampy may be a good sign. I know when i was pregnant with my daughter I was so nausea my sis said that was a good sign cause that meant the hormones were up and causing me to be sick.

gi · Post by gi » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:24 pm

Hey jenice,

glad everything is looking good so far, i know 3 mths sounds daunting but you will pull thro with flying colours plus your little daughter will be there to distract you. I here you on not getting hopes up too much for my 1st 3 cycles i was sooo optimistic but now its like dont get your hopes up as more often than not its a bfn for me but what the heck i will still battle on. Feeling ok today just few odd cramps and a my stomach muscle on the rhs is sore this happened last time when i got the bfp so i am trying really hard to tell myself to cop on and not get too excited but its hard when you are at home on your own all day!! I go back to work on thurs so hopefully a distraction......yeah right. I am telling myself lots of PMA will do no harm and for the moment i am PUPO

When is your estimated EC????

Starwishes and ERT hope ye are both ok and that the saying is true that "time is a healer" xxxxx

gi xxxx

gi · Post by gi » Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:27 pm

Oh forgot to answer your question I am not supposed to test for another 12 days!!!! They dont do bloodtests here and get you to just poas but there is noooo way i can wait that long, if its a negative i need to know asap so i can deal with it and move on but PMA its not going to be negative

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:30 am

Gi thanks for your support I appreciate it. I started my stims tonight, so it is beginning............ Today was frustrating was playing phone tag with the DR office.I'm so glad I don't have to deal with tthem next couple of days. It must feel like forever waiting to find out. I think it is easier to get pregnant after you have been already. I was pregnant 3 x's in one year. Now I wonder if I should have waited so long after having my daughter. I waited 2 years. I have a good feelin for you

I think you should find out around when I might transfer

Well @ least I'm doin stims finally I'm accomplishing something. I'm afraid of overstimulating my body definitely likes to produce eggs. Good luck to ya and keep us posted

gi · Post by gi » Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:43 pm

Girls feeling really low at the moment, had some brown spotting 1 hour ago (tmi) it was mixed with clear stretchy mucus like ovualation mucus and i have lots of AF cramps i just feel like its now over. On all my bfns i had spotting (brown) around day 8 so i feel like i am heading that way again, yesterday and this am i was convinced i was pg (stupid me) and now i am sooo upset

I have done this often enough to know when its over. Sorry to be so negative but i dont want to upset j at this stage he doesnt know i am testing early but i suppose i will have to tell him sometime its all over......again. You would think after 7 years we would finally get some luck seems like i am destined to do ivf forever!!!

gi

starwishes · Post by **starwishes** » Wed Aug 26, 2009 7:25 pm

Hi ladies,
I'm back from a nice break away with my DH. Just another week until the term starts again and back in the classroom so am making most of the summer freedom.

Gi, please please don't give up hope yet! Spotting is totally normal- even though you think you know what to expect, I know that every time and every cycle is different and you really can't compare your symptoms with ones you have had before. Just keep the faith and stay positive- and gosh, I know how totally hard that is. But I will be thinking of you and sending lots of Angel Gabriel prayers your way! Xxxx Keep going girl!

Jenice, I hope you managed to get through to your DR eventually- it's so frustrating having to deal with all the admin/phone call stuff as well as all the medical and emotional stuff! I don't know what your clinic has advised you to do to help prevent overstimulation, but mine told me to drink a pint of milk a day. Apparently keeping up the calcium intake during your cycle really helps. It worked with me anyway.

sleep well ladies with lots of baby dust going your way!

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 12:16 am

Gi, I'm so sorry to hear about your spotting but it can happen during a pregnancy too. Someone I know was pregnant not long ago with twins and she said she was really upset thinking miscarriage cause of cramping and some bleeding. She is 8 months already so don't give up

My mom had a period or so she thought when she was pregnant with one of us kids I think for several months. I think you should tell hubby so he can give you some emotional support. I feel so sad for you I know it has been so long for trying to have a baby.I"ll keep praying for you

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:09 am

Starwishes, Thanks for the advice on the milk I'll stock up!!!!! I can't stand the phone tag I was in the middle of a store with my daughter having to talk about the meds and cycle. People are walking by with their kids screaming my daughter was running around in the aisle it was a circus!!!! Lately hubby and I have been fighting I guess were both getting tired and stressed out with it all. My poor daughter I try and explain that mommy and daddy are upset cause the DR can't fix me to make a baby. She said" that is a sad shame." and "DR will give you a baby." Child is consoling her mother she is so cute!!!!! How are you doing? Any more tests do you have todo? Glad you took some time to yourself. I'll keep you posted talk to you later.

gi · Post by gi » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:48 am

Hi ladies,

So far all my tests are positive and getting darker

We are 10dp3dt so i know its very early days and anything can happen but so far we are soo happy. Its a pity they dont do betas here as i dont know how viable it is so we are praying soooo hard that our little baby/ies are fighting hard to grow big and strong. I will be on constant knicker watch for next few wks until scan, have some cramping, sore lower back, bb's tender and lots of pulling sensations. Please God this is it and we will finally be getting our miracle baby

gi xxxx

gi · Post by gi » Sun Aug 30, 2009 11:50 am

Hi ladies,

So far all my tests are positive and getting darker

We are 10dp3dt so i know its very early days and anything can happen but so far we are soo happy. Its a pity they dont do betas here as i dont know how viable it is so we are praying soooo hard that our little baby/ies are fighting hard to grow big and strong. I will be on constant knicker watch for next few wks until scan, have some cramping, sore lower back, bb's tender and lots of pulling sensations. Please God this is it and we will finally be getting our miracle baby

gi xxxx

jenice · Post by **jenice** » Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:16 pm

Gi, congrats on your positive test wish you the best.Maybe you'll have twins

I on the otherhand might be having my cycle cancelled again. I have 13 follicles one dominant. The follicles are small exceptfor the dominant one.Will see DR tomorrow to make a decision.I would like to @ least retrieve the eggs and freeze the embies and transfer for next cycle.We'll see what happens!!!!

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