O gem
POor you - just take it easy and try not to worry. Am sure the pain is nothing to do with the embies. You poor old bod has been through so much - its bound to react strangely now and again.
anyway - could it possibly be implantation pains?
Keep +ve - its not over til its over babe!
Cazxx
calling all potential April Buddies
Hi everyone,
It would appear we are all having a bad day.
I just got the results from my bloodwork today and they said they were very surprised that my body does not seem to be responding to the medicine and my estrogen level was only up to 50 when it should be at least 150 to 200 by now. She said this was very unusual to happen at my age especially since I had a normal FSH reading.
Her first concern was that we haven't been mixing the medicine properly so that I am taking the right dose but we definitely have been so that's not it. Now they want to me to double my dose of Gonal F (not sure if you use the same brand names there) to 300. I was taking 150 before and to continue with the Repronex as well then reduce the medicine I've been continuing in the AM that I used for downregging to a minimal dose. I'm very concerned about doubling my dose. That seems like such a large amount....
I don't think they should have left me downregging for so long. I had a feeling it would be easy for them to shut me off but not so easy for them to turn me back on but, of course, they are the ones who are supposed to know everything.
Anyway, I am really just getting the feeling right now that I never should have even started with this whole thing but now I'm rather stuck.
Sorry to complain like this....especially when others of you are having an even worse time of it than me. I'm just in such a panic now. I had better say goodbye for now because I can't even think straight.
Staci
It would appear we are all having a bad day.
I just got the results from my bloodwork today and they said they were very surprised that my body does not seem to be responding to the medicine and my estrogen level was only up to 50 when it should be at least 150 to 200 by now. She said this was very unusual to happen at my age especially since I had a normal FSH reading.
Her first concern was that we haven't been mixing the medicine properly so that I am taking the right dose but we definitely have been so that's not it. Now they want to me to double my dose of Gonal F (not sure if you use the same brand names there) to 300. I was taking 150 before and to continue with the Repronex as well then reduce the medicine I've been continuing in the AM that I used for downregging to a minimal dose. I'm very concerned about doubling my dose. That seems like such a large amount....
I don't think they should have left me downregging for so long. I had a feeling it would be easy for them to shut me off but not so easy for them to turn me back on but, of course, they are the ones who are supposed to know everything.
Anyway, I am really just getting the feeling right now that I never should have even started with this whole thing but now I'm rather stuck.
Sorry to complain like this....especially when others of you are having an even worse time of it than me. I'm just in such a panic now. I had better say goodbye for now because I can't even think straight.
Staci
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Hi Girls
Gem - What a nightmare.........! You so have to keep your feet up and relax babe...........I will keep everything crossed for you........xx
Caz - poor you! I am here for you to talk about it any time......I still have very vivid memories of that day in February when we got the same news......I could have been sick even though we suspected it, it was just our worst nightmares coming true.
As you know it is our third attempt with donor tomorrow and we still think about the ifs whats and maybes, but ultimately we want a baby and if this is our only way at getting it then so be it..........I know the difficulties but sometimes I think that one just has to cope as one goes along.....if you know what I mean........things will make more sense at the time, ie when you have your child, you will know whether it is right or wrong to tell them. As for everyone else.........the only people that know about having to use donor are our parents........noone else and as far as I am concerned it will remain that way and maybe at some stage we will tell others.....maybe we won't I don't know!
Anyway, my thoughts are with you babe......good luck on your decisions.
Love
JenFx
Gem - What a nightmare.........! You so have to keep your feet up and relax babe...........I will keep everything crossed for you........xx
Caz - poor you! I am here for you to talk about it any time......I still have very vivid memories of that day in February when we got the same news......I could have been sick even though we suspected it, it was just our worst nightmares coming true.
As you know it is our third attempt with donor tomorrow and we still think about the ifs whats and maybes, but ultimately we want a baby and if this is our only way at getting it then so be it..........I know the difficulties but sometimes I think that one just has to cope as one goes along.....if you know what I mean........things will make more sense at the time, ie when you have your child, you will know whether it is right or wrong to tell them. As for everyone else.........the only people that know about having to use donor are our parents........noone else and as far as I am concerned it will remain that way and maybe at some stage we will tell others.....maybe we won't I don't know!
Anyway, my thoughts are with you babe......good luck on your decisions.
Love
JenFx
What has been going on , I dont come on for a couple of days and all hell is let loose!!!!
Caz1
I dont know what to say except I am thinking of you , did you know that I wasnt expecting to go for donor egg again untill next year and they were going to try with my own eggs ? well when this donor came along I had to make a decision in 2 hours , it was a tough one but glad I made it , I felt like it was ment to be , as requarding telling the child when its old enough we have decided to not say anything unless it asks and then we would deal with it when it happened, I have lit you a candel for tomorrow .
Gem
They wouldnt have poked around like that if they thought it would have a bad responce , try not to worry and drink lots of water and rest calm and rest calm and rest.
Jen F
Best of luck tomorrow , Thinking of you X
AMITHIS
Dont worry about the dose I was on 450 iu when I was going to go on a short cycle 300 is ok really, Hang in there it will be ok
Sue
I would seek legal advice and then sue the bi**h if she touches your records then you can live off her compensation!!!!!!!! Thats not right surely
Well I am just bimbling along awaiting my next scan on friday , hopefully I will find out where my donor is in her cycle.
Take care everyone and lets hope tomorrow brings better news
I dont mean to forget anyone its just I have done a 12 hour day today and there were lots to read!!! {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}} to all
Trace x
Caz1
I dont know what to say except I am thinking of you , did you know that I wasnt expecting to go for donor egg again untill next year and they were going to try with my own eggs ? well when this donor came along I had to make a decision in 2 hours , it was a tough one but glad I made it , I felt like it was ment to be , as requarding telling the child when its old enough we have decided to not say anything unless it asks and then we would deal with it when it happened, I have lit you a candel for tomorrow .
Gem
They wouldnt have poked around like that if they thought it would have a bad responce , try not to worry and drink lots of water and rest calm and rest calm and rest.
Jen F
Best of luck tomorrow , Thinking of you X
AMITHIS
Dont worry about the dose I was on 450 iu when I was going to go on a short cycle 300 is ok really, Hang in there it will be ok
Sue
I would seek legal advice and then sue the bi**h if she touches your records then you can live off her compensation!!!!!!!! Thats not right surely
Well I am just bimbling along awaiting my next scan on friday , hopefully I will find out where my donor is in her cycle.
Take care everyone and lets hope tomorrow brings better news
I dont mean to forget anyone its just I have done a 12 hour day today and there were lots to read!!! {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}}}} to all
Trace x
Traci,
Thanks for letting me know about your dose. Did you have worse side effects when on a higher dose? Does it put you at higher risk for hyperstimulation? I was really worried that this was a completely abnormal situation and would screw up the whole cycle. Anyway, after 2 hours of hormone induced crying and seeing your e-mail, I am feeling a little better.
Gem,
Sorry to hear about your visit to the hospital. I hope you are feeling better now. I guess that definitely decided things as far as the game goes.
Keep resting!
Caz,
Good luck to both you and your husband tomorrow (again). How is your DH dealing with all of this? Having no experience with having to make such a decision, I'm not sure what I would regarding telling if going the donor route. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't tell anyone; not even the child because, really, why does anyone need to know? What good would it possibly accomplish? I suppose it's easy to just say that though without actually going through it.
Jen,
Best wishes for tomorrow.
Sue,
Like you need to be dealing with a nightmare of a boss while going through all of this and, of course, now is not the time for you to search for something else either. She sounds horrid. I can't believe they are looking to access your medical records. That is really pushing it.
I hope you find the resources soon to be able to leave...and make sure to let her know what you think of her on the way out!
Anyway, glad you are feeling okay physically anyway.
Good night to everyone. What a hell of a day we've all had.
Staci
Thanks for letting me know about your dose. Did you have worse side effects when on a higher dose? Does it put you at higher risk for hyperstimulation? I was really worried that this was a completely abnormal situation and would screw up the whole cycle. Anyway, after 2 hours of hormone induced crying and seeing your e-mail, I am feeling a little better.
Gem,
Sorry to hear about your visit to the hospital. I hope you are feeling better now. I guess that definitely decided things as far as the game goes.
Keep resting!
Caz,
Good luck to both you and your husband tomorrow (again). How is your DH dealing with all of this? Having no experience with having to make such a decision, I'm not sure what I would regarding telling if going the donor route. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't tell anyone; not even the child because, really, why does anyone need to know? What good would it possibly accomplish? I suppose it's easy to just say that though without actually going through it.
Jen,
Best wishes for tomorrow.
Sue,
Like you need to be dealing with a nightmare of a boss while going through all of this and, of course, now is not the time for you to search for something else either. She sounds horrid. I can't believe they are looking to access your medical records. That is really pushing it.
I hope you find the resources soon to be able to leave...and make sure to let her know what you think of her on the way out!
Anyway, glad you are feeling okay physically anyway.
Good night to everyone. What a hell of a day we've all had.
Staci
Yes well as you can see I'm up early!
DH and I just off for ec and TESE - what a pair eh?!
Its all quite surreal really.
My major concern just at the moment is dealing with the (albeit very few) people who know where doing tmt now. HOW am I going to explain to my parents that we didnt even get ontot he 2ww - they'll be so gutted. Also I dont want to give them the impression that its the end of the road for DH, incase we decide not to tell them about the donor thing. Requires some non hormone induced thinking I think.
Jen - thankyou SO much for your thoughts - I knew that you had been through the same thing - and I would definitely love to pick you brains. I might do so - when I get back from the hospital if thats OK! Isnt today your big day -have I got that right- GOOOOOD LUCK!
Gem - how are you sweetie - I hope you are taking it SO easy
Traci - I know - LOOK what happens when you go away! Please dont! Sound like you have been through a similar mare - would love ANY advice to have to give. MAYBE it all happens for reason eh?
Sue - poor you - some people I just dont get ?? Try not to ket your boss worry you IF POSS!
Staci - pease dont worry about the higher dose- at some level you just HAVE to believe that the doctors know what they are doing and just go with it. As you stage pf cycling they do very often completely change doses - because they just dont know how you'll reaact esp if its your 1st time.
Well - I'll catch up with you all later
Thankyou for being here for me:-)
cazx
ps -bottle of vino in the fridge for me and DH tonight. Hooray (....sort of?)
DH and I just off for ec and TESE - what a pair eh?!
Its all quite surreal really.
My major concern just at the moment is dealing with the (albeit very few) people who know where doing tmt now. HOW am I going to explain to my parents that we didnt even get ontot he 2ww - they'll be so gutted. Also I dont want to give them the impression that its the end of the road for DH, incase we decide not to tell them about the donor thing. Requires some non hormone induced thinking I think.
Jen - thankyou SO much for your thoughts - I knew that you had been through the same thing - and I would definitely love to pick you brains. I might do so - when I get back from the hospital if thats OK! Isnt today your big day -have I got that right- GOOOOOD LUCK!
Gem - how are you sweetie - I hope you are taking it SO easy
Traci - I know - LOOK what happens when you go away! Please dont! Sound like you have been through a similar mare - would love ANY advice to have to give. MAYBE it all happens for reason eh?
Sue - poor you - some people I just dont get ?? Try not to ket your boss worry you IF POSS!
Staci - pease dont worry about the higher dose- at some level you just HAVE to believe that the doctors know what they are doing and just go with it. As you stage pf cycling they do very often completely change doses - because they just dont know how you'll reaact esp if its your 1st time.
Well - I'll catch up with you all later
Thankyou for being here for me:-)
cazx
ps -bottle of vino in the fridge for me and DH tonight. Hooray (....sort of?)
Hi Caz
Just a quick one to say 'Good Luck' for today and I'm hoping it will bring some encouraging news. Enjoy your wine tonight.
Love Dagny xkx
Just a quick one to say 'Good Luck' for today and I'm hoping it will bring some encouraging news. Enjoy your wine tonight.
Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Hi Guys
Thanks for everyones support and replies, I think you are all right, I will seek legal advice if she insists, quite honestly, I wouldnt want ANYONE having access to my medical history(this is how the form is worded that she wanted me to sign!!
) Anyway the good news is that my lovely dh has said I am to hand in my notice when we come back of our holiday, hurrah!! And the house will sell soon enough, it was only on the market for 2 weeks before, so fingers crossed! Still woke up in the night for ages though so having an easy day today!
Gem, honey what a nightmare, I thought you were quiet yesterday. Dont worry, like Dagny said our bodies go through so much and it doesnt mean that its a negative thing, it could well be those embies digging in. Hope you are feeling better.
Caz, hope today goes ok for you. If you are worried about what to say about not being on the 2ww, why not tell a white lie and say you were at risk of OHSS so they thought it better not to transfer them, it happens to quiet a few of the girls so its a feasable excuse?! Hope your dh is ok too.
Staci, dont worry about them putting up your dose, I was on 225 one day and 300 the next, they really dont know exactly how you react until you do, hence the scanning and bloods, it will be fine.
Jen, good luck for today.
Traci, see we cant do without you!! Good luck for Fri
Oh well, heres hoping for a calmer day for us all!
Sue xxxx
Thanks for everyones support and replies, I think you are all right, I will seek legal advice if she insists, quite honestly, I wouldnt want ANYONE having access to my medical history(this is how the form is worded that she wanted me to sign!!
) Anyway the good news is that my lovely dh has said I am to hand in my notice when we come back of our holiday, hurrah!! And the house will sell soon enough, it was only on the market for 2 weeks before, so fingers crossed! Still woke up in the night for ages though so having an easy day today!Gem, honey what a nightmare, I thought you were quiet yesterday. Dont worry, like Dagny said our bodies go through so much and it doesnt mean that its a negative thing, it could well be those embies digging in. Hope you are feeling better.
Caz, hope today goes ok for you. If you are worried about what to say about not being on the 2ww, why not tell a white lie and say you were at risk of OHSS so they thought it better not to transfer them, it happens to quiet a few of the girls so its a feasable excuse?! Hope your dh is ok too.
Staci, dont worry about them putting up your dose, I was on 225 one day and 300 the next, they really dont know exactly how you react until you do, hence the scanning and bloods, it will be fine.
Jen, good luck for today.
Traci, see we cant do without you!! Good luck for Fri
Oh well, heres hoping for a calmer day for us all!
Sue xxxx
My god what a day for everyone - well what a week, really!
As for me, having said at least I would know today, it turns out I don't. You see, it seems I'm a 'little bit' pg - I didn't know you could be that! My levels are up, but not as far as they are supposed to be (I didn't ask what they were). So basically, we're either heading for pg with a slow start, or a miscarriage - anyone else been here
So now I have to wait till Friday to compare my readings with today and say which way it will go. Still, a 'little bit' is more pg than I've ever been before, and I know it's better than a lot of you are doing right now. I really feel for you all. It's like this just never ends.
Sue - you've made me realise what a dream my boss is. It's just exactly what you don't need right now.
Gem - your ordeal sounds just awful. i don't know what to say other than i'm so sorry this is just one more thing you have to go through.
Staci - exactly the same thing happened to me - my estrogen should have been in the hundreds and it was stuck down in the 10s. they had no idea why, as i'd responded normally 3 times before but they upped the dose from 150 or 175 to 225 (Gonal F) and i was fine - just took a while to 'wake me up' . didn't notice any different side effects. Don't sweat it - and above all DON'T GIVE UP! Even though I know how tempting it is .
Caz - good luck for today. it ain't over till it's over - and when it's time, you'll make the right decision for you and DH. Enjoy that wine tonight!
Thinking of you all.
Jaye
As for me, having said at least I would know today, it turns out I don't. You see, it seems I'm a 'little bit' pg - I didn't know you could be that! My levels are up, but not as far as they are supposed to be (I didn't ask what they were). So basically, we're either heading for pg with a slow start, or a miscarriage - anyone else been here
So now I have to wait till Friday to compare my readings with today and say which way it will go. Still, a 'little bit' is more pg than I've ever been before, and I know it's better than a lot of you are doing right now. I really feel for you all. It's like this just never ends.
Sue - you've made me realise what a dream my boss is. It's just exactly what you don't need right now.
Gem - your ordeal sounds just awful. i don't know what to say other than i'm so sorry this is just one more thing you have to go through.
Staci - exactly the same thing happened to me - my estrogen should have been in the hundreds and it was stuck down in the 10s. they had no idea why, as i'd responded normally 3 times before but they upped the dose from 150 or 175 to 225 (Gonal F) and i was fine - just took a while to 'wake me up' . didn't notice any different side effects. Don't sweat it - and above all DON'T GIVE UP! Even though I know how tempting it is .
Caz - good luck for today. it ain't over till it's over - and when it's time, you'll make the right decision for you and DH. Enjoy that wine tonight!
Thinking of you all.
Jaye
Hi Jaye
Hold onto that little bit of hope. Keeping everything crossed for Friday. Like you said you are a 'little bit' further than you have been before so it can only be a positve thing. 'Little' congratulations so far. I hope I can send you 'BIG' congratulations when I get back from my holiday.
Be strong and stay positive.
Love Dagny xkx
Hold onto that little bit of hope. Keeping everything crossed for Friday. Like you said you are a 'little bit' further than you have been before so it can only be a positve thing. 'Little' congratulations so far. I hope I can send you 'BIG' congratulations when I get back from my holiday.
Be strong and stay positive.
Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
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Hi all just a quick one.....as DH will make me get into bed any mo
Well - went to clinic for 20mins ec collection procedure. 5 HOURS later we left!!
They decided to do another TESE on dh - this time in both testicles - several "incisions" and also 2 or 3 PESA incisions - POOOOOOR guy!! He is SO brave I just cant believe it. Anyway - outsome was still, no sperms
but at least we know we really tried
Anyway - they defrosted a sample of testicular tissue they took a year ago - and there are VERY VERY few motile sperms there - but no way enought to do all the eggs.
(Its weird its seesmlike his sperm production has just ground to a total halt recently??)
So, they got 16 eggs from me (no probs - feel fine) and I think they will try as many as they can with DH's defrosted sperms (but the fertilisation rate will be V V low), and whats left they will do with the donor.
HIghest probabilty is no embies with Dhs sperm and I guess some with donor
BUT...The doctor advised that we did NOT transfer the donor embies this time - as he said we hadnt "exhausted all our options wth Darren"????!!! I have NO idea what this means and aside from CLONING him
- cant think of any other option we had left. was too tired and emotional to go into it
Anyway - dunno if this make ANY sense - still slightly drowsy!
So most probably we will transfer donor embies (other options aside??) later in the year - and just chill out for a bit now- go on holiday etc - mak sure that we still feel the same way in a couple of months
Just quicky - Jaye - my friend who did IVF last eyar - had borderline PG results - and now has a little boy - he just took his time! Her PG test was even -ve the first few times she tried it!
Take care all
pps- Sue - you DH sounds super star - I think I might work on mine to let me pack in my job too!! Life too short eh
PPS
Was feeling very sorry for myself when we came out of the clinic - until we saw this little boy prob about 5 - with the most awful burn all over his face. Poor little love.... I suddenly stopped feeling so sorry for myself.....know what I mean??
Big X
Well - went to clinic for 20mins ec collection procedure. 5 HOURS later we left!!
They decided to do another TESE on dh - this time in both testicles - several "incisions" and also 2 or 3 PESA incisions - POOOOOOR guy!! He is SO brave I just cant believe it. Anyway - outsome was still, no sperms
but at least we know we really tried
Anyway - they defrosted a sample of testicular tissue they took a year ago - and there are VERY VERY few motile sperms there - but no way enought to do all the eggs.
(Its weird its seesmlike his sperm production has just ground to a total halt recently??)
So, they got 16 eggs from me (no probs - feel fine) and I think they will try as many as they can with DH's defrosted sperms (but the fertilisation rate will be V V low), and whats left they will do with the donor.
HIghest probabilty is no embies with Dhs sperm and I guess some with donor
BUT...The doctor advised that we did NOT transfer the donor embies this time - as he said we hadnt "exhausted all our options wth Darren"????!!! I have NO idea what this means and aside from CLONING him
- cant think of any other option we had left. was too tired and emotional to go into itAnyway - dunno if this make ANY sense - still slightly drowsy!
So most probably we will transfer donor embies (other options aside??) later in the year - and just chill out for a bit now- go on holiday etc - mak sure that we still feel the same way in a couple of months
Just quicky - Jaye - my friend who did IVF last eyar - had borderline PG results - and now has a little boy - he just took his time! Her PG test was even -ve the first few times she tried it!
Take care all
pps- Sue - you DH sounds super star - I think I might work on mine to let me pack in my job too!! Life too short eh
PPS
Was feeling very sorry for myself when we came out of the clinic - until we saw this little boy prob about 5 - with the most awful burn all over his face. Poor little love.... I suddenly stopped feeling so sorry for myself.....know what I mean??
Big X