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If I remember right, you had two children before this one, who is also naturally conceived. To me, your chance of having another natural baby is hi. No one can really tell you that your time is running out, I read a book written by someone with fsh of 43 at 43 yrs old, she conceived her babies naturally at 45 or so! The thing to remember is not to stress yourself out, it will happen naturally. After a pregnancy, you are normally very fertile, but in the mean time, your egg quality is not as good as before, so you may will experience several mc to get there...

I am not a doctor but I am a believer of positive thinking. In fact, no doctor in the world believes true infertile, they have seen enough people who expect to reach menopause yet get knocked up at very unexpected times... I know we tend to be desperate because we are older day by day, however, it does not matter, if there is no other options, you just have to take it easy and enjoy everyday as much as you can and let things happen and keep believing that you will be the lucky one sometime in your life time...

Do I make any sense here? Wish you all the luck that you deserve!

Yasmina
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IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
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thanks yasmina. i do value your opinion. i hope you and babies are well. i would love to see a new picture.
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IVF Retrival nov 12th transfer Nov 15th
BFN!!! Nov 26th.
BFP!! Dec 30th Natural pregnancy
Isabella sophia born 9/1/09
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Rhonda:

Since you had 3 natural pregnancies, I would think that the shots could work without IVF. The shots will give you multiple eggs, so that should increase your chances of a good egg fertilizing and implanting. I tried Femara which is a cheap pill (like clomid). It increased my number of eggs, but if time is of the essence, I would go right to the injectibles, as you will get more eggs with them. I still think about another pregnancy and baby :( I think part of it is the fact that I'm not able to get pregnant and it bothers me. Good luck on getting pregnant!!

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Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Hi Tammy. Thanks for the information. I appreciate your input. I don't know if I am tempting fate. I was lucky to get Isabella and her be healthy. My pregnancy was very difficult and Im probably crazy for thinking about another. Its just that my dh loves her so much and I feel bad that Im too dang old to have more. Just met him too late I guess. I should feel fortunate I have three beautiful children. I just wanted to give her a friend to grow up with. my two older kids had a great time together and still do. Life is so weird. seems like nothing is enough. Im speaking of myself. Then I read te posts where some dont have any children and then i feel very selfish whinning about my situation. I wish you a sibling for Andrew. I know you love him so much though and he is great. Im glad you continue to stay on the board. I do too. I enjoy talking to you and the others. Please keep me posted on you and your sweet little boy.

rhonda
Mrs. Cutter-Me-44 DH35
clomind-6mth follistim-june/july-cancel iui-08
IVF Retrival nov 12th transfer Nov 15th
BFN!!! Nov 26th.
BFP!! Dec 30th Natural pregnancy
Isabella sophia born 9/1/09
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Renee Del Ponte,

Big congrats!! I agree completely with you about sibling age difference. I basically don't have energy nor time for my DD who is only almost 2 yr older than my younger one, who is close to 1 now and still being breastfed. We did not wait for long enough because of me, I am 47 and entering my 48...Our DD throws tantrums almost daily, it's very hard time for us at the moment.

Another thing that I agree with you is that we older women will experience mc from time to time, which is normal and good, in my opinion, since I prefer mc to taking care of sick children.

Enjoy pregnancy and keep us informed.

Rhonda,

You are not selfish to want more children, no worries. I feel the same, I wish I could have more too. I don't know how many is enough, I guess it's all balanced by many factors of each family. For us, it's critical that we will have jobs which pay the bills, age is only secondary.

Tammy,

Your successful pg is also natural, so, your time will come. Stresses and worries are invisible sometimes, but they prevent pregnancies. Are you doing anything to relax? I keep telling me that I should practice Yoga, but I've never resumed this, I should start now.

Are you close to get your adopted child?

Hi to everyone else reading here!

Yasmina
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
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Greetings All :D

I hope this post finds everyone doing well.

Rhonda-I hear your desire. I feel the same way, wanting to have another child, a pair to pal around together and experience the wonder of growing up together. I too struggle with that 'selfish' feeling. You asked about meds. First, have you thought about using the OTC fertility test; it is a similar format to the ovulation tests; it measures I believe your FSH. I confess I haven't used this but I see it right next to the pht and ovulation tests. It would give you an indicator of your fertility. REgardless an option is to take DHEA. If you do a google on DHEA for both fertility and menopause you can find some interesting information. The debate is ongoing on whether DHEA influences a woman's hormones levels. This may be worth a conversation with your doctor. Another option is chinese herbs. My acupuncturist is also an herbalist and specializes in the treatment of infertility. Both DH and I have taken his herbs. His herbs actually improved DHs sperm quantity and quality. As soon as DH went off the herbs, the quantity and quality returned to very poor :( That made me a believer right there. Above all, as Yasmina said, don't stress, rather do your best to relax.

Renee- Congratulations! :D Fingers crossed for you. How's WA? As my grandmother [deceased now] would say, 'You're in God's country now.' That's where she grew up in Kirkland, WA. I hope to visit the area again someday.

AFM-We've been fighting a terrible headcold in the household; DD brought it home from daycare. She got a double ear infection out of it as well :( Back before the holidays DH tried to bank some sperm, but the quantity and quality were very poor and not even good enough for IUI let alone IVF; ICSI would be fine. So, that was scrapped; he was suppose to try again this month, but the cold prevented him from doing so. This has not stopped us from tying ala naturale. Crossed fingers for success, but again the headcold could have monkeyed around with this as well. I plan to send DH back to acupuncturist to get more herbs to improve his sperm quantity and quality. We're nearly recovered from the head cold. We've switched DD off the cow's milk and placed her on rice milk in hopes of decreaseing the frequency of ear infections. I'll keep you posted.


A big shout out to everyone else.

Wishing everyone well.
Cheers!
Catharine
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1 IVF Feb08 BFP singleton born Nov, '08
1 IVF Nov09 BFN
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Renee:

Congrats on your pregnancy!!!!!

Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Renee, congratulations to you!!!!!! so happy for you. catharine hope you guys are feeling better. Yasmina, dont feel bad. my older kids are still throwing tantrums on a daily basis. age doesnt change that. ha ha. Tammy i hear ya about paying the bills, definitely know what you mean. hope everyone else is doing good. It was exciting to see posts from all the buds on here. love you guys and so enjoy your posts. take care.

rhonda
Mrs. Cutter-Me-44 DH35
clomind-6mth follistim-june/july-cancel iui-08
IVF Retrival nov 12th transfer Nov 15th
BFN!!! Nov 26th.
BFP!! Dec 30th Natural pregnancy
Isabella sophia born 9/1/09
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Hello All,

Yasmina: It is hard to predict the adoption timing. It looks like it will be another year and DH is not too keen on adding another child to our family now, since he is 47 and I am 45. With that being said, I'm not sure if I will have a sibling to grow up with Andrew.

Catharine: I hope you are feeling better. I have been a little under the weather as well.

Hello to Rhonda, Renee, Kat and anyone else that I may have missed.

Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Hi Tammy,

I forgot to mention that we had met a Chinese little girl who was 8 at ski resort, CO few days ago while we were skiing. She was adopted at 18 month of age. Her adopted parents has a son who is 22 and getting married this year. She will be the flower girl, she told me this story with a lot of pride. I was thinking about you at that moment, although I am sure that Andrew won't be 16 when you will get your Chinese little girl. The only thing that I need to say is do prepare to have two more - it's possible that you will find out that you are pg when will be told that your adopted child is ready for you to pick up! Remember that pg happens at the least possible time, be prepare...

Rhonda, Renee and Catharine,

Yes, I am still here to keep in touch with you all. Regardless how difficult things can get sometimes, I love them to pieces. Sometimes I smile even laugh a loud at work just to think about them. Each kid is so different from one another, this probably why we keep wanting more. Watching them grow is a lot of joy!

Hi again to everyone here.
Me, 50 DH, 40
IVF, 11/05, 19 embryos(e), no ET, OHSS
FET, 02/06, cancelled, dominant egg
FET, 04/06, 4e, BFN
FET, 06/06, 6e, DD born 02/07
FET, 05/08, 5e, DS born 01/09
http://yasminachina.blogspot.com/
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Yasmina: You are too kind. Wow, I don't know how I would handle two more, as I am already 45. My DH would freak! Of course all children are a blessing from God. :) Andrew would love to have a sibling close in age, but I think he may be jealous right at first. He is used to having me all to himself. I remember when I was 7 years old, my mom had my younger sister, Debbie. I was so proud of her, as I thought of her as "our baby".
I was not jealous at all.

Hello to everyone else.

I'm off to make Andrew breakfast.............his favorite: waffles and bananas!

He is a joy!!!!!!

Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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