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AMITHIS
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Caz,

My clinic is the same - 14 days. They also gave me the usual warning not to try a home test myself earlier since it easily could result in a false positive or false negative.

I don't think I'll cheat but I know a lot of people do. Since I have a long, unpredictable cycle, I've gone through so many home pregancy tests in the last few years that I probably could have covered the cost of the IVF with all the money I spent on them!

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WARNING!!!!!
DO NOT ATTEMPT TO GO TO A FREINDS CHILDS CHRISTENING WHILST UNDERGOING FERTILITY TREATMENT!!
Just got home from one, .....it officially feels like everyone on the planet is either preganant or has children. ARRRGGGHHHHH. And I officially feel like a freak being childless - WHAT is going on!?????
On top of that One of our last child free couples that we know - announed today that she was 4 month preg. Cant BELIEVE it.
Suddenly feel so -ve again. Cramps and spots arriving just as they did at this point in our last cycle :-(
The hostess, hardly spoke to us and when she found out our friend was PG - just pulled her away from us to go and chat to another PG woman - COMPLETELY IGNORING US!! How can people be so rude?
QUITE CROSS!

Anyway - trying to be very zen!
Drinking tea and going to watch rubbish TV all night!

But....just one thing, is that what happens to you when you have kids then - do you become a complete maniac?!! Dont get me wrong I SO desperately want them - its just a very strong instinct I cant do much about - but I seriously hope I dont completely lose my sense of tact and interest in ANYTHING else. Know what I mean?

O dear!!

Cazx
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Caz,

I feel like I could have written your last post....although maybe not with as good a sense of humor about it!

As you know I excused myself from the Christening party that I was invited to last week. I knew what I would be getting myself in for because, when we first moved here, we went to a neighbor's party and all the women did was gather in the kitchen and talk about their children, schools, etc and pass around their babies to each other. I felt completely left out. I tried the best I could to bring up new topics to talk about but, somehow, they always turned it back around into a conversation about their children. I finally ended up going outside on the porch where all the men were sitting and sat next to my DH and just joined their conversation (which, admittedly, was not very thrilling either).

I often have the same fear. I see these women talking only about their children and it sometimes occurs to me that they seem to have no life or personal identities of their own anymore. I mean I start to worry that when I have children I won't be myself any longer or that I'll lose my own interests....or that my DH and I won't spend so much time doing everything together. And, like you, I do really want them (I'm sure we wouldn't be going through this science experiment if we didn't)!

I mean I would hate to think that I would ever host a party and not take care to make every sure every person felt welcome, irregardless of whether or not they had children.

The strange thing is there must obviously be plenty of people out there around our ages without children but why does it seem like we never meet them?! It seems like I'm always completely surrounded by women with children or pregnant women. I'm really happy to have this board where there are others who can actually relate but it would be nice to meet some people in person who are in the same situation. I see plenty of people in the clinic, of course, but it is such a serious environment. No one looks at each other or talks to each other. I guess we are all kind of uncomfortable about being there.

So, for whatever it is worth I guess there are probably a lot of us freaks out there!

Anyway, yesterday I discovered another item which would probably be worth adding to the list of things not to do while undergoing treatment.

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, ORDER PANTS FROM A CLOTHING CATALOG THAT ARE YOUR NORMAL SIZE.....(at least not unless they have an elastic waistband)!!

Bye for now,

Staci
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Hi everyone - well, everyone has been very busy over the weekend! Firstly, congrats to Caz for getting this far - it is amazing what they can do. Good luck - you (and DH!) really deserve it. Tania - I think it must be your ET around now - good luck. Yes, I felt much like you after ET, so nothing to worry about.
Staci - your posts could have been mine. I was also anorexic (many years ago), and secretly I wonder if this is part of this... or if I have a fear of turning out like so many parents I know who now can't carry on a conversation about anything else except their babies! I'm sure it will all be different when it's mine... but I hope I manage to maintain some outside interests... sounds like you are going well, anyway.
Sue, good luck. Like you say, at least you'll know soon. My clinic tests 16 days after EC.
My stuff is still weird. I don't feel pg anymore - boobs have shrunk back down (they were a half decent size for a few days!) and no more cramping - but pg test yesterday still +ve. Pretty weak though - I think we are heading for a m/c, as I'm a week late already. To be honest I just want this cycle to be over either way. I'm over it - I started this cycle more than 7 weeks ago.
Take care all,
Jaye.
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Jaye -PLEASE still focus on the fact that you have +ve preg test. All the other symptoms dont mean anything - I am sure if you rang your clinic they would say the same thing. Keep +ve babe.

Staci - ARE YOU QUITE MAD!?!?! Ordering trousers from a catalogus in the middle of IVF!!!!! Sweetie.....you need to be thinking flowing kaftans - they are all the rage this year anyway!!

My Last day off work today, feel so completely normal :-(, that I feel a bit of a fraud for not being at work. So back in tomorrow altho possible on rather shorter hours!

Anyway -might sit in the sun today!

Take care all
Cazx

ps- traci, Sharon, Jen - havent heard for a while you OK??
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Do you think we should do a thread
WHAT NOT TO DO WHILST ON IVF!!!! It could be interesting seeing what people come up with !

Trace x
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Hi Guys
Thankyou so much for my well wishes on my been in hospital tread.
There as been so much happened on here I will have to re read to catch up.
Caz I'm so happy that you've managed to get to the 2ww and I'm really praying for you that this cycle will work for you,enjoy the time off work and do lots of resting.
Traci how are things going with you is your donor doing well?
Staci my belly as been really bloated during the injections and the 2ww so I havent been clothes shopping for ages,I ahvent been eating last week when I was ill and even then my belly was bloated.got to go wedding clothes shopping as we are going to a wedding 29th May but I've put it off it see what the out come of this treatment is 1st.
I konw what you all mean about being around pg women it as done my head in for years but I have learnt to put a brave face on,my best friend is very understanding and hasnt got any plans for children in fact shes going to camp america in June for a few months but she seems to understand how I feel aas dh doesnt really understand when one of our friends annouced she was pg wo=ith her 2nd child we all go out in coples and her husband is dh's best mate but I am always ok to there faces but I do have a cry behind closed doors but dh said we should be happy for them and its ni=ot there child we want I said yes I know but I'm jealous as I want it to be ME!!!
sorry for rambling hope you can understand what I'm trying to say.
How is everyone else sorry I havent named everyone indivually but u=you are all in my thoughts.
Well we test tomorrow I'm trying to stay positive but I think we both know it cant have worked with what my bodies been through,but we will see tomorrow,I feel 10 time sbetter today and can manage to wash up,and I'm eating more.
Catch up with you all later
love Gemxxxx
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Hi Gem,

Only have a sec as I'm off for my scan.

My DH doesn't understand the part about feeling bad when other people are pregnant either. If I tell him I don't want to go somewhere because I'm not feeling well, he can comprehend that but, if I tell him, it's because it's too sad for me to be around a lot of women with little children or pregnant women, he thinks I'm completely crazy and just being overly dramatic about things. So, like you, I just keep those feelings to myself.
Glad I can at least share them on this board without people thinking I'm a horrible person for feeling that way.

So glad you are starting to feel a little better!

Regarding shopping for clothes, I ordered some pants when I started downregging (was determined that I was not going to gain an ounce during this) but they just showed up yesterday. There is no way I would dare shop for clothes at this point! They fit great everywhere except for when I went to zip them up over my swollen tummy. :(
Today is my 10th day on stims and, from what I understand, I can just expect the bloating to keep getting worse. Joy.

Anyway, I'd better get moving!

Staci
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Hi All,

Had a hellish day yesterday which involved driving for over 3 hours to obtain more medication which I stupidly ran out of. I finally got home with the medicine only to find that I needed mixing needles and didn't have any. The clinic suggested I go pick some up at their office (about 40 min. away) so, no sooner had I gotten home than I had to leave again and drive back to the clinic (40 min. drive) where I had just been in the morning. ARRGHH!!

When I got there, there were several emergency vehicles and an ambulance. About 11 emergency medical personnel came out of the back area/procedure room and they were bringing a patient out to the ambulance on a stretcher. :shock: Just what I did not need to see the week of my EC!

Speaking of EC, it looks like it will be either Thurs. or Fri. There are a few follies that are close to 18 mm and my estrogen had tripled in 2 days. I have to go back in again tomorrow AM. I'm hoping it will be on Thurs. as I'm so nervous about the whole thing that I don't think I'll be able to sleep until it is over with.

Jaye,

Are you having a test done at your clinic today? I wish you the best of luck!

Gem,

You are in my thoughts today as well!

It is time for some +tives on this board!

Staci
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Hi Everyone

I haven't posted much as my access to the computer is v. limited (DH is usually busy with stuff) and my typing is too slow, but my thoughts have been with you ...

Staci

Hope your scan today goes well, I had my last one yesterday and will be having EC on Wednesday. I had to have the HCG yesterday which surprised me at how stingy it was - maybe it was where I put it (in my tummy) but it made my eyes water. I would definatly recommend that you use ice beforehand!

So this morning I have been feeling (I think, it may be my imagination) some slight pain in my right side which I guess could be ovulation??

I know exactly what you mean about getting it over and done with. I can't wait until the ET (Friday or Saturday).

Does your clinic do the EC under GA? Mine does, which means a whole day off work, I've taken so much time off work for this already but hopefully this will be it for awhile. Are you taking any time off after ET?

With the bank holiday on Monday it will be a good chance to have a rest. I hope. I think we may have DH's parents over for lunch but nothing is definate. We have decided not to tell anyone this time. No one at all. I have'nt even told my sister whom I always tell everying too!

Anyway, don't worry too much about the size or how many follies. You just need one. :) Good luck.

Zeena
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Well girls I phoned the clinic yesterday to find out how my Donor went and when Ec would be as I have a big wedding to do for a friend and I am attending the wedding too! so guess when EC is ?YES Friday :shock: but lucky for me I dont have to go as my lining is great and ready for action :lol: poor DH is going to have to go on his own cause he needes to do his bit and then meet me at the wedding afterwards ! I will be on tenderhooks wandering if A: I get any eggs B: if DH managed it all ok as it took him over an hour cause the poeple in the next room were gossiping and he couldnt concentrate!!! Oh well what will be will be I cant let the wedding party down as I am doing 7 of their hairs for their big day and I would much rather be doing that then sitting nervous in a waiting room for the news on how many eggs!!!!
Have a nice day everyone :lol:

PS: If she started stimming either last sunday or Monday which means at the most she would have been day 9 of stims and she is only having 1 more scan on Wednesday do you think this means that she has responded well to drugs!!! I recon so what do you all think?

Trace x
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Hi Trace

Soooo happy for you, roll on Friday so that you know the score....will have my fingers well crossed for you girl!

As you say it is probably a good thing that you are occupied on Friday...otherwise you would be climbing the walls.....poor DH will need a stiff drink by the time he arrives at that wedding!!

Good luck

JenFxx
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Hi all,
Gem - I'm so glad you're back. I know your body's been through hell, but whenever I worried about having a coffee or beer or something, I always thought of all those crack or heroin addicts who get pg without even trying - the body is an amazing thing. Don't give up now girl - you're so close. Can't wait to hear your news today - sending out lots of +ve vibes!!!
Traci, I'm so excited for you too! Best of luck - it's good you're busy, will keep your mind off things. Poor DH - sounds like he could do with your help! Zeena - good luck for EC on Wed. I had my ET over Easter so I was lucky! I would have taken at least a day off, not coz I needed it so much, but just coz it's all so overwhelming! Staci - good luck for your ET too - wow, it's all happening. My clinic says you get about 1000 units of estrogen for each mature egg - so you can work out how many you might have from your last E reading - did anyone else hear that? Caz - good luck being back at work. I don't think I could cope without work - takes my mind off everything and keeps my busy (never thought I'd be thankful for work!)
Well, I guess you're all wondering how today went... my clinic are being really weird about it so I'm kinda confused. My beta have been going crazy - from 28 on Fri to 190 today (4 days). I looked at the site Staci sent (thanks!) and it seems like it's within normal range to me, but my clinic are being so guarded - saying it's now where it should have been 5 days ago, so they are still not sure... when other things I've read say the level doesn't matter as much as the fact that they keep going up. I'm so confused, I really don't know what to think :? . After all this time imagining how excited I'd be, I don't really feel anything at all - I'm too confused. The last thing in the whole world I feel is pregnant! I know it's good news, but like I said, I just feel weird about the whole thing, because of how cautious my clinic's being. I guess that's a good thing on their part, but it makes it all so hard. Well, another test on Saturday. I guess we just keep doing this indefinitly...
Good luck girls. You all deserve it.
Jaye.
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Zeena,

Are you feeling anything after the HCG shot? Just wondering if it makes people feel sick since it is the same hormone produced in early pregnancy. Just thinking it would be rather a drag to have a morning sickness feeling while undergoing the EC. My clinic uses GA also (which I'm happy for) but it is no inconvenience for me since I am not working right now. We knew when we moved and I left my last job that we were going to have to get diagnostic testing done for infertility, etc. and decided it'd be best if I helf off on getting a job. Good thing we did because I don't think I would have been able to get very much time off at a new job.

Anyway, good luck tomorrow!! I can't wait to hear how it goes.

Traci,

That is a v. good response by your donor. Wish I could have stimmed that quick! Did she do the downregging bit of things? Regarding the estrogen level per mature egg, I think I did read something similar somewhere but I thought it was 150 - 200 per egg? If it is 1,000 per egg, then I don't think I'll be getting many eggs out of those 17 follies! My estrogen level yesterday was 1,800 and they lowered my dose last night all the way down to 75 (from 300) so I am thinking that they don't want it to rise too much above that.

Jaye,

Talk about being left in suspense! I thought for sure they'd be able to give you a definite answer today. Here's hoping that you go in Sat. and the number has skyrocketed.

Question for all, my Dr. prescribes the trigger shot when at least 2 of the follies reach 18 mm. What happens if, of my 17 follies, only 2 reach 18 mm and a lot of them are much smaller? Does that mean they won't get eggs out of the small ones? Is it normal for there to be a large difference in the size of the follies (i.e. yesterday I had some that were only 11 mm but a few that were 16/17 mm). I would ask the Dr. but she is always so rushed after she does my scan that I can only get in one question per visit and today I need my one question to be about OHSS (need her reassurance that I am not at risk since I am getting so anxious about it)!

Anyway, have to start getting ready to leave for my scan but I'm sure I'll be back on later.

Staci
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Hi Staci,
I didn't feel anything after any of my trigger shots, but apparently you can feel nauseus and/or tired. As for timing of EC, my dr told me they basically try to pick when the greatest number are ready and go with that timing - sometimes they might let 1 or 2 go (get 'over-ripe'), if there's a batch coming up which are smaller but similar in size and they think they'll get more altogether.
I know it's hard, but remember you're paying for this - you deserve to get the answer to more than 1 question a visit! Do they have a nurse or someone else you could ask? Although to be honest, you girls have been heaps more help than my clinic in terms of what to expect and what's normal!
Take care & good luck,
Jaye.
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