Staci just wishing you all the best for today
Love gemxxxxx
calling all potential April Buddies
HI all
A thought should we all just put somewhere where we are all at because I am losing track!
Staci - am I right in thinking you are in for ec today - how did it go - thinking of you!!
I am starting to get into the predictable "OH NO HERE COMES MY PERIOD MODE". I have lower back and tummy ache and spots - a sure sign
NO +ve pregnancy symptoms at ALL, even tho O BOY am I looking for them
My question for you is this....my cycle is usally about 34 days long. So should I expect my af to come 34 days after my last one, or does the IVF process change it all? Any info v gratefully received!
remember to let me know where you are all at - aas I'm v confused!!
Thanks my loves
Cazx
A thought should we all just put somewhere where we are all at because I am losing track!
Staci - am I right in thinking you are in for ec today - how did it go - thinking of you!!
I am starting to get into the predictable "OH NO HERE COMES MY PERIOD MODE". I have lower back and tummy ache and spots - a sure sign
NO +ve pregnancy symptoms at ALL, even tho O BOY am I looking for them
My question for you is this....my cycle is usally about 34 days long. So should I expect my af to come 34 days after my last one, or does the IVF process change it all? Any info v gratefully received!
remember to let me know where you are all at - aas I'm v confused!!
Thanks my loves
Cazx
Hi Caz
I think it depends on the protocol they put you on - I had to take the pill beforehand to control the onset of AF, that way we could make sure that DH was around for his bit - he was travelling alot at that time. So my cycle was 28 days. As far as your symptoms are concerned, I think it varies in how pronounced they are - the signs of AF you're getting could just be because of a raised progesterone level? Are you on cyclogest or provera or something like that?? If you are, have a look at the infomation leaflet that comes with it - I am sure your symptoms will be listed. Try not to think about it too much. Take each day at a time.
OK, my update is that I had my EC yesterday, ET planned for Saturday morning. They called to let me know that I can start my cyclogest tonight, then from Friday I start the Prednisolone and Heparin (yuck). I feel a bit tender at the moment, but I think it is getting less. Looking forward to a good nights sleep tonight!
So that's where I am right now. Can't wait to join the 2ww thread!
Zeena
I think it depends on the protocol they put you on - I had to take the pill beforehand to control the onset of AF, that way we could make sure that DH was around for his bit - he was travelling alot at that time. So my cycle was 28 days. As far as your symptoms are concerned, I think it varies in how pronounced they are - the signs of AF you're getting could just be because of a raised progesterone level? Are you on cyclogest or provera or something like that?? If you are, have a look at the infomation leaflet that comes with it - I am sure your symptoms will be listed. Try not to think about it too much. Take each day at a time.
OK, my update is that I had my EC yesterday, ET planned for Saturday morning. They called to let me know that I can start my cyclogest tonight, then from Friday I start the Prednisolone and Heparin (yuck). I feel a bit tender at the moment, but I think it is getting less. Looking forward to a good nights sleep tonight!
So that's where I am right now. Can't wait to join the 2ww thread!
Zeena
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Hi girls
Like Caz - I am beginning to lose track of everyone!
Caz - I know exactly where you are coming from.......I spent the majority of this morning in tears as I have my usual AF symptoms, one that is a dead give away is a nasty spot.......a real horrible under the skin one, I get one of those buggers without fail every month............so not looking good......I am getting really tired of this whole bloody thing!!!
Hope everyone else if feeling OK?
Love
JenFxx
Like Caz - I am beginning to lose track of everyone!
Caz - I know exactly where you are coming from.......I spent the majority of this morning in tears as I have my usual AF symptoms, one that is a dead give away is a nasty spot.......a real horrible under the skin one, I get one of those buggers without fail every month............so not looking good......I am getting really tired of this whole bloody thing!!!
Hope everyone else if feeling OK?
Love
JenFxx
Zeena, I noticed you start on prednisoline. What is that for, is that part of your IVF treatment? Sorry I am new to the site and have started the stims for my first IVF treatment and am not up with all the drugs used yet.
Good luck to all the April cycle buddies. I have my fingers crossed for us all. My EC is 10th May and I am very nervous and not sure what to expect.
Shellie
Good luck to all the April cycle buddies. I have my fingers crossed for us all. My EC is 10th May and I am very nervous and not sure what to expect.
Shellie
Hi all,
The EC went well. The Dr. never talked to me (probably because I was too out of it from the sedation) but he told my DH that they got 17 eggs and that things looked very good. After the procedure I really didn't feel any pain so, when the nurse asked me if I wanted to take one of my prescription painkillers, I told her I'd just wait until I got home. Boy, did I ever regret that decision. We stopped at the grocery store on the way home so I could grab a few things and I started getting terrible pain in the store....the kind that makes you feel like you can't stand up straight. I went out to the car while my husband waited in line. On a scale of 1 to 10, by the time I got home, I was definitely in Level 10 pain. At any rate, I took the painkillers right away and within 20 minutes was feeling fine and have been ever since. I expected cramping but this was like a knife being twisted in my side! I would strongly advise anyone going through this for the first time to take those painkillers when the nurse asks you to so they are in your system when the painkiller from the procedure wears off!
My stomach doesn't seem too bloated right now. It is far from flat but not much worse than it was right before the EC. I think I remember everyone saying though that it gets worse the day after for a few days?
My ET will be on Sunday or Tues. They weren't sure whether they will be doing a 3 day transfer or a 5 day and I won't find out until Sunday morning if we have to go in Sunday or Tues. Does that seem strange to anyone? Is a 3 day better than 5 or is there no difference? Needless to say, the 3 day would be less stressful. I just can't picture waiting around for 5 days now.
Sorry, one more question, is anyone doing the IM progesterone injections and how bad are they? My DH has to give me one tonight.
Caz,
I'm pretty sure that AF always occurs 14-16 days after ovulation and that when people have different cycle lengths, it is because some ovulate later in the cycle than others do. I know that I don't usually ovulate until around Day 23 whereas most people do around Day 14. Since your clinic took measures to control when you ovulate by regulating everything, I think the length of your usual cycle doesn't matter in this case. And, like Zeena says, your AF symptoms may just be due to the meds you're taking. Don't give up hope yet! When do you test?
JenF,
I think that progesterone, steroids, etc. can all cause breakouts so no need to worry too much. It could just be due to the hormones.
Anyway, I'm still feeling a little lightheaded from the painkillers so think I'm heading back to bed to watch TV.
Best wishes to everyone and thanks for the support!
Staci
The EC went well. The Dr. never talked to me (probably because I was too out of it from the sedation) but he told my DH that they got 17 eggs and that things looked very good. After the procedure I really didn't feel any pain so, when the nurse asked me if I wanted to take one of my prescription painkillers, I told her I'd just wait until I got home. Boy, did I ever regret that decision. We stopped at the grocery store on the way home so I could grab a few things and I started getting terrible pain in the store....the kind that makes you feel like you can't stand up straight. I went out to the car while my husband waited in line. On a scale of 1 to 10, by the time I got home, I was definitely in Level 10 pain. At any rate, I took the painkillers right away and within 20 minutes was feeling fine and have been ever since. I expected cramping but this was like a knife being twisted in my side! I would strongly advise anyone going through this for the first time to take those painkillers when the nurse asks you to so they are in your system when the painkiller from the procedure wears off!
My stomach doesn't seem too bloated right now. It is far from flat but not much worse than it was right before the EC. I think I remember everyone saying though that it gets worse the day after for a few days?
My ET will be on Sunday or Tues. They weren't sure whether they will be doing a 3 day transfer or a 5 day and I won't find out until Sunday morning if we have to go in Sunday or Tues. Does that seem strange to anyone? Is a 3 day better than 5 or is there no difference? Needless to say, the 3 day would be less stressful. I just can't picture waiting around for 5 days now.
Sorry, one more question, is anyone doing the IM progesterone injections and how bad are they? My DH has to give me one tonight.
Caz,
I'm pretty sure that AF always occurs 14-16 days after ovulation and that when people have different cycle lengths, it is because some ovulate later in the cycle than others do. I know that I don't usually ovulate until around Day 23 whereas most people do around Day 14. Since your clinic took measures to control when you ovulate by regulating everything, I think the length of your usual cycle doesn't matter in this case. And, like Zeena says, your AF symptoms may just be due to the meds you're taking. Don't give up hope yet! When do you test?
JenF,
I think that progesterone, steroids, etc. can all cause breakouts so no need to worry too much. It could just be due to the hormones.
Anyway, I'm still feeling a little lightheaded from the painkillers so think I'm heading back to bed to watch TV.
Best wishes to everyone and thanks for the support!
Staci
HI
Caz asked us to remind each other where we are. Thats a good idea, as I keep trying to work it out.
I am on day 4 of my 2ww, I think I have changed to people waiting but I want to keep an eye on everyone here.
Staci, I was given an internal pain killer whilst I was still on the table. I talked all the way through the EC but don't remember a thing. BUt I was in quite a lot of pain for 2 days, which I hadn't expected.
Then after ET I had AF symptoms and now not a lot really.
Just twiddling my thumbs and trying to do things to pass the time
Good luck everyone
Tania
Caz asked us to remind each other where we are. Thats a good idea, as I keep trying to work it out.
I am on day 4 of my 2ww, I think I have changed to people waiting but I want to keep an eye on everyone here.
Staci, I was given an internal pain killer whilst I was still on the table. I talked all the way through the EC but don't remember a thing. BUt I was in quite a lot of pain for 2 days, which I hadn't expected.
Then after ET I had AF symptoms and now not a lot really.
Just twiddling my thumbs and trying to do things to pass the time
Good luck everyone
Tania
HI there
Staci - 17 eggs that awesome - well done - no wonder you're a bit sore tho!
Think most people have their embies put back on day 3 when they should be 7 cells or over I think. However i think if they leave it til day 5 they become blastocasts (or something) which means they are more resilient and you are more likely to get PG. If they make lots of embies I think this is what they are more likely to do - if they dont make so many they may just decide to pop a couple back in on day 3. I think the risk with waiting til day 5 is that they might not all make it that far along (if you've got losts I guess they take the view that the risk if worth taking because if they DO make it to day 5 - you've more chance of getting PG)
This is all slight guess work -I check it with the expert!!
Jen - I too have one HUGE spot right under the skin - V V pre menstrual. Its funny, I think I'm talking myself down so that I wont be disappointed with a -ve....but I know I'll be gutted when it happens. Got it day 12 last time, which would be next wednesday this time.....Anyway as Staci says, COULD be the hormones lets try to keep +ve - I have a VERY good feeling about you!!
Zeena thatnk you for replying to me and with such wise words! I will try to keep calm.....what will be will be eh?
How is everyone else doing? Sounds like everyones moving along OK?!
Cazxx
Take care all
Staci - 17 eggs that awesome - well done - no wonder you're a bit sore tho!
Think most people have their embies put back on day 3 when they should be 7 cells or over I think. However i think if they leave it til day 5 they become blastocasts (or something) which means they are more resilient and you are more likely to get PG. If they make lots of embies I think this is what they are more likely to do - if they dont make so many they may just decide to pop a couple back in on day 3. I think the risk with waiting til day 5 is that they might not all make it that far along (if you've got losts I guess they take the view that the risk if worth taking because if they DO make it to day 5 - you've more chance of getting PG)
This is all slight guess work -I check it with the expert!!
Jen - I too have one HUGE spot right under the skin - V V pre menstrual. Its funny, I think I'm talking myself down so that I wont be disappointed with a -ve....but I know I'll be gutted when it happens. Got it day 12 last time, which would be next wednesday this time.....Anyway as Staci says, COULD be the hormones lets try to keep +ve - I have a VERY good feeling about you!!
Zeena thatnk you for replying to me and with such wise words! I will try to keep calm.....what will be will be eh?
How is everyone else doing? Sounds like everyones moving along OK?!
Cazxx
Take care all
Hi everyone,
Staci - 17 eggs is fantastic. my clinic transfers at 5 days - reckons it gives them a better chance to pick the winners. the down side is that some embies that made it to 2 or 3 day won't make it to 5 - so you run a risk of losing some you might have transferred. But they seem to think you have a better chance of transferring good ones if you leave them to 5 days - I know it's hell - i've just been through it - I actually reckon it was the worst bit, coz at least once you're at the 2ww you feel like you've achieved something and before that you might not even get there. but it is probably worth it in the long run, if you can hold out.
Keep positive Tania, Caz, Jen F (is that all on the 2ww now? I'm sorry if I've missed others.) Having now got that +ve, I can honestly say I didn't have ANY signs until after AF was late - then my boobs were a bit sore (but only a bit, and only if I jiggled them
!). but I know nothing I say will stop you looking, just like the advice I got didn't stop me!
Zeena - glad you are OK after EC - how many embies did you get?
I have no symptoms now, and the ones I had have gone. I test again tomorrow, but I can't help thinking it's bad news (yeah, I know, after all the advice I've just given to think +ve), but I should be 5w4ds, I don't feel a thing, and they've been warning me all along that it didn't look good. At least I will know in another 24 hours. Even this is a positive for us, though - further than we've ever got before, and I know lots of women m/c at least once, so hopefully this is my time over with.
Gem - how's being pregnant????
Did you get +ves before on the other 3 goes? Sorry, I don't remember.
Take care all, week-end coming up!
Jaye.
Staci - 17 eggs is fantastic. my clinic transfers at 5 days - reckons it gives them a better chance to pick the winners. the down side is that some embies that made it to 2 or 3 day won't make it to 5 - so you run a risk of losing some you might have transferred. But they seem to think you have a better chance of transferring good ones if you leave them to 5 days - I know it's hell - i've just been through it - I actually reckon it was the worst bit, coz at least once you're at the 2ww you feel like you've achieved something and before that you might not even get there. but it is probably worth it in the long run, if you can hold out.
Keep positive Tania, Caz, Jen F (is that all on the 2ww now? I'm sorry if I've missed others.) Having now got that +ve, I can honestly say I didn't have ANY signs until after AF was late - then my boobs were a bit sore (but only a bit, and only if I jiggled them
!). but I know nothing I say will stop you looking, just like the advice I got didn't stop me! Zeena - glad you are OK after EC - how many embies did you get?
I have no symptoms now, and the ones I had have gone. I test again tomorrow, but I can't help thinking it's bad news (yeah, I know, after all the advice I've just given to think +ve), but I should be 5w4ds, I don't feel a thing, and they've been warning me all along that it didn't look good. At least I will know in another 24 hours. Even this is a positive for us, though - further than we've ever got before, and I know lots of women m/c at least once, so hopefully this is my time over with.
Gem - how's being pregnant????
Did you get +ves before on the other 3 goes? Sorry, I don't remember.Take care all, week-end coming up!
Jaye.
Hi Girls,
Caz/JenF - Try and stay positive although I know how difficult that is. Dont put any pre AF symptoms down to -ve result as they could be the drugs and a +ve result. When do each of you test?
Tania - Only another 10 days or so to go. Hoope it goes quickly (as if!). Good luck.
Zeena - How many eggs did you get? How have they fertilised? Good luck for ET on Sunday. I have to use Heparin as well - its horrible isnt it.
Shellie - Hope your stimming is going OK. Have you had a scan yet to see how many follies you have? Dont be alarmed re EC - I had sedation and didnt really feel a thing. I felt uncomfortable afterwards but not too bad.
Staci - Well done for 17 eggs. Bumper crop or what! Caz was right re what she said about day 3 or 5 transfers. Dont know anything about the IM progesterone injections as I have the pessaries instead.
Jaye - Good luck for your test tomorrow.
Sue - Hope you got your positve result. Cant wait to hear your news.
Love Allison
x
Caz/JenF - Try and stay positive although I know how difficult that is. Dont put any pre AF symptoms down to -ve result as they could be the drugs and a +ve result. When do each of you test?
Tania - Only another 10 days or so to go. Hoope it goes quickly (as if!). Good luck.
Zeena - How many eggs did you get? How have they fertilised? Good luck for ET on Sunday. I have to use Heparin as well - its horrible isnt it.
Shellie - Hope your stimming is going OK. Have you had a scan yet to see how many follies you have? Dont be alarmed re EC - I had sedation and didnt really feel a thing. I felt uncomfortable afterwards but not too bad.
Staci - Well done for 17 eggs. Bumper crop or what! Caz was right re what she said about day 3 or 5 transfers. Dont know anything about the IM progesterone injections as I have the pessaries instead.
Jaye - Good luck for your test tomorrow.
Sue - Hope you got your positve result. Cant wait to hear your news.
Love Allison
x
Hi How everyone doing I didnt have any pg signs during the 2ww but then again I was in agony the week before we tested with an infection in my right ovary so I think that pain over rode everything else,I'm praying for morning sickness I cant wait then it will seem real but in all the books I've read they say sickness doesnt come until week 5/6 and I've got an article in my magazine the 1st 50 days of your babies life which is really useful and by that article I should be getting some sickness tomorrow we are just so nervous fro tuesday we have both said we will relax more once tuesday is over and my levels are good,we have never prayed to god as much Jaye no I've never been pregnant before this is the 1st time,Hope everything goes ok,you might be one of the luckly ones who dont have any symptoms.
The only differance is that my nipples are tender and veiny,I'm having a few twinges esp when I get up quick.
Wishing you all the best fro your up coming tests and I'm praying you all get a big fat positives.
Love gemxxx
Jaye no I've never been pregnant before this is the 1st time,Hope everything goes ok,you might be one of the luckly ones who dont have any symptoms.The only differance is that my nipples are tender and veiny,I'm having a few twinges esp when I get up quick.
Wishing you all the best fro your up coming tests and I'm praying you all get a big fat positives.
Love gemxxx
Hi all,
Still in pain today and popping my painkillers. Fortunately, I'm not working. I can't believe clinics tell people they will probably feel ok to go in to work the day after EC. I am having a bit of trouble standing up straight at times. It does seem to be gradually getting better than yesterday though. One annoying thing is that it seems like I am constantly thirsty. I don't know if it is good or bad to be drinking so much fluid as far as the bloating and pain goes. Anyway, I'm just waiting in suspense now until Sun. morning to find out how many fertilized and when the transfer will be. It seems like today is really dragging by and I'm sure tomorrow will as well.
Jaye,
Weren't you supposed to have tested again today? A little worried since I don't see any posts from you.
Zeena,
Good luck with your ET tomorrow! I'll be joining you on the 2 ww shortly (assuming nothing major goes wrong).
Gem,
Don't feel bad about not having any morning sickness. Maybe you will be one of the lucky people who doesn't have to go through that. After the time spent being so sick, I think you you have already paid your dues!
Hope everyone is off to a good start on their weekend.
Staci
Still in pain today and popping my painkillers. Fortunately, I'm not working. I can't believe clinics tell people they will probably feel ok to go in to work the day after EC. I am having a bit of trouble standing up straight at times. It does seem to be gradually getting better than yesterday though. One annoying thing is that it seems like I am constantly thirsty. I don't know if it is good or bad to be drinking so much fluid as far as the bloating and pain goes. Anyway, I'm just waiting in suspense now until Sun. morning to find out how many fertilized and when the transfer will be. It seems like today is really dragging by and I'm sure tomorrow will as well.
Jaye,
Weren't you supposed to have tested again today? A little worried since I don't see any posts from you.
Zeena,
Good luck with your ET tomorrow! I'll be joining you on the 2 ww shortly (assuming nothing major goes wrong).
Gem,
Don't feel bad about not having any morning sickness. Maybe you will be one of the lucky people who doesn't have to go through that. After the time spent being so sick, I think you you have already paid your dues!
Hope everyone is off to a good start on their weekend.
Staci
Well, thought i'd update you all again on my saga - hope you're not getting too bored. Yesterday started having quite strong AF-like cramps, thought, 'oh, well i guess this is it'. I went off to work, but then about 2.30 they started getting much stronger and i thought AF would arrive any moment. decided i didn't want to be at work when it happened, so i went home. the cramping continued, but no bleeding. about 10 at night, all of a sudden i started having these really stabbing pains, around my left ovary - i had no idea what this could be (but i did think of Gemma's experience and wonder if I was heading there!) after half an hour the pain was still really bad so we went down to A&E - but by the time i'd seen someone, it had pretty much cleared up. the a&e dr. couldn't find anything, so they sent me home. then had my b/t done again this morning - my dr. called later, my betas have risen, but not by enough. she thinks last night could either have been a cyst bursting (anyone else had this?) or signs of an ectopic pg (the low betas can also indicate this). we're going in for more b/t and an u/s on tuesday, and she will make a decision then what to do with this - but i can't see any good news. it's just like if it's not one thing it's another. somehow i imagined that once you got to IVF all the problems were sort of solved. how wrong i was. but you all give me hope, most of you have been through much worse. anyone looking like being a june buddy??? i am pretty much resolved to having to start this all over again now.
jaye.
jaye.
Jaye
Poor you, sound very very stressful - so what you dont need eh?
Your Betas have RISEN. Thats surely yhe bottom line. Its ABSOLUTELY too early to give up hope. My friend who did IVY was border line on her bloods for AGES and then only rose very slowly. I EVERYONE follows a different trend. So please dont worry. Take it very easy (ha ha!!) until tuesday and I'm sure you'll find things look brighter
By the way thank you so much for you advice re what to look for in 2ww - i will not panic that I feel absolutely nothing, my boobs hardly hurt and there are no blue viens !! (more than normal anyway!)
Did I say that docs put me up to 3 pessaries or projesterone a day- O joy!!
Tania/ Jen - how the 2ww going? SLLLOOOOWWWW eh? I am 7 days thought it now, and really starting to try and think of all the nice things we'll do if we get a -ve, in order to cheer ourselves up!
Big Xs
Cazx
Hi the everyone else - Staci - we were allowed to ring the clininc to see how many eggs fertilised the day after ec, and then each day after that to see how they were doing? MAybe you can do this too if you like? For us it was massively tense because we had to use minute numbers of frozen sperm - so didnt know if any would make it! How did it all go with you DH - did they get lots of good wigglers (WOW NOTHING is sacred on this site is it?!!)
Poor you, sound very very stressful - so what you dont need eh?
Your Betas have RISEN. Thats surely yhe bottom line. Its ABSOLUTELY too early to give up hope. My friend who did IVY was border line on her bloods for AGES and then only rose very slowly. I EVERYONE follows a different trend. So please dont worry. Take it very easy (ha ha!!) until tuesday and I'm sure you'll find things look brighter
By the way thank you so much for you advice re what to look for in 2ww - i will not panic that I feel absolutely nothing, my boobs hardly hurt and there are no blue viens !! (more than normal anyway!)
Did I say that docs put me up to 3 pessaries or projesterone a day- O joy!!
Tania/ Jen - how the 2ww going? SLLLOOOOWWWW eh? I am 7 days thought it now, and really starting to try and think of all the nice things we'll do if we get a -ve, in order to cheer ourselves up!
Big Xs
Cazx
Hi the everyone else - Staci - we were allowed to ring the clininc to see how many eggs fertilised the day after ec, and then each day after that to see how they were doing? MAybe you can do this too if you like? For us it was massively tense because we had to use minute numbers of frozen sperm - so didnt know if any would make it! How did it all go with you DH - did they get lots of good wigglers (WOW NOTHING is sacred on this site is it?!!)