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caz 1
No just the donor eggs cause I dont stim!!!
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gotcha! Good luck babe
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Hi all,

Well, I couldn't sleep all night as I was lying in bed worrying about the embies and what will end up happening this morning. I don't even know what quality they are. What if they are all lousy? I know it's ridiculous that my clinic won't give an update prior to ET. It seems like most other clinics call each morning to let couples know how things are going. There are a lot of things with this clinic I haven't been happy with but it supposedly has a high success rate and it has the advantage of being within a reasonable driving distance.

I was reading last night that one disadvantage of 5 day transfers is that embies which have gone for 5 days don't freeze very well. That is a major concern since we are really relying on being able to freeze some so we can do a FET at some later point in time; either if this doesn't work or to have a 2nd. I guess the 5 day has other advantages though....supposed to be especially good for increasing the success rate if you are only transferring one back. The thing is our clinic doesn't seem to give us a choice in the matter. They will basically call us to tell us if they are doing the 3 day or the 5 day based on what their embryologists recommend. I guess I'm not even so sure what I would decide anyway so maybe it is better not to be resonsible for making the choice.

You know what is strange? The 2 ww that so many of you are on right now seems really long to me. I keep checking thinking one of you must be due to test soon because it seems like it's been forever and most of you still have a week left to go. It's going to seem like a lifetime once I'm on it myself!

At any rate, sounds like all of you are keeping it together pretty well. I'll write later after I find out what is going to happen today (2 more long hours until the phone call).

Staci
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Hi again,

One of the nurses from the clinic called and said that we will be going to Day 5. She said the embryos were doing very well so far (I forgot to ask her how many there were!) and that the embryologist couldn't yet decide which 2 to transfer. When I got off the phone, I also realized that she said which "2" to transfer but I thought we had already discussed with the Dr. that we only wanted to transfer 1. So, now I am very confused....or, rather, I'm worried that they are confused. Not only am I confused, I'm starting to question whether only transferring one is the right thing to do. I know 2 would probably make our chances slightly higher but I know I couldn't handle having twins.

The Dr. doing the transfer will be yet a different Dr. so at this point I have used a different Dr. for the initial consultation and tests, a different Dr. for the EC and, now, yet another Dr. for the ET. Are your clinics like this or do you usually have the same Dr. follow through with the whole procedure from beginning to end?

Another question, did most of you have your consultation with the embryologist regarding the quality etc. right before the transfer? They mentioned I should have a full bladder for the transfer but I don't know how I'm supposed to sit through a consultation before the transfer (never mind the actual transfer itself) and make good decisions when all I can think about is using the loo! :?

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Staci
Try not to worry , if they are doing day 5 transfere I recon you should have a good amount as my clinic wont even try after 3 day if there are less then 8 embies , the consultation dosent last long , I know what you meen about having a full bladder also when they do the Transferre they scan me too and you watch it on screan going in , I always say dont press too hard on my belly !!!! If you only want 1 transfered then that is what you should have dont be frightend to ask . anyway good luck when is et likely to be ? I go in tomorrow at 1.30 I am paronoid that they will dye before transferre .

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Hi Girls

Traci - good luck mate.....Fingers all crossed for you!!

Caz - The whole 2ww would drive you to distraction....I kind of wish I could just wake up on Thursday. Been trying to ignore everything that I have been feeling as my imagination is now running competely riot.........don't know what is in my head and real any more!! Can't even remember what real AF symptoms feel like!! At around 4.30am on Saturday morning I woke up with stabbing pains/cramp like things in my lower tummy.....I was still half asleep and then could not figure out whether I had dreamt the pains or actually experienced them...........you see ..............I have lost the plot!!

Good luck to the rest of the girls on the 2ww and to everyone trying to get there.........Traci, you can join the paranoid club on Monday!!

Love to all

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Traci,

Don't worry. Your embies will still be there tomorrow! It is extremely rare for them not to make it after fertilization. How many do you plan to put in if you don't mind my asking?

I am really stressing now over trying to decide between putting back one or two and I know I'll be obsessing about it from now until Tues. morning. I thought we had decided things but now I'm wondering if having twins might not be the worst thing in the world if it did happen. I guess my main concern with twins is the increased health risks and risk of birth defects. Then again, we do want to have 2 children and it might not be so easy going through 2 separate pregnancies back to back either (don't exactly have the luxury of time at my age). I just hope I will not be drastically lowering my chances and doing a stupid thing by going with only 1 if that's what we end up doing. I guess we would still have the others frozen but I don't know if the success rate would be as high as doing the fresh trasnfer.

Anyway, sorry for babbling on!

Have most of you transferred 2? Is it actually pretty unlikely that twins would result from transferring 2 anyway? I mean am I just being a little overly optimistic now that this is going to work so I'm feeling too secure going with one?

Would welcome any insight.

Thanks,
Staci
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Staci
I think that if you cant freeze any you should go for 2 and if you can freeze a good amount go for what you feel while you are in there , then you wont be stressed , On my last go I had 3 put back cause they were grade 2 and 3's and it was my 3rd go and I am on the older side of 30!!!!! 2 is the norm and the % of Twins is about 25% isnt it , so 2 isnt too bad

Good luck with your decision

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Hi Girls,

Staci - Good luck for your ET. You need to chat throught with DH about whether to have one or two put back. The clinic should listen to what you want and abide by your wishes. In the UK 2 is he norm but it is your decision so dont let them bully you into anything you dont want. It sounds like you have lots of embies so hopefully they will be able to freeze any left over. I thought that freezing after 5 days was better than earlier. Let us know how your transfer goes.

Jaye - Poor you - you really seem to be having it tough. Dont give up yet as many girls have thought it wasnt looking good and gone on to have lovely bonny babies. I shall be thinking of you on Tuesday when you have your next tests. Fingers crossed.

Caz/Tania - Good luck on the 2WW girls. Dont assume a -ve just because of absence of symptoms. Lots of girls get nothing then get a surprise +ve result. Hope you will as well. keep smiling....

Traci - I am so pleased that you got 2 lovely embies. I hope they will be brilliantly divided and superb quality ready for your ET tomorrow and that you will be posting "its twins" very soon. I will be thinking of you tomorrow.

Hi also to JenF, JulyAnn and Dagny.

My donor is still stimming and I am still on my HRT. My next scan is Thursday when I should get some details as to how she is doing and when EC/ET is likely to be. Watch this space.

Love to all
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Traci,

Thanks for your thoughts. I think that is good reasoning. If they can't freeze any for whatever reason I will definitely go with 2. Otherwise, I'm just going to do whatever I feel is right at the time I'm in there.
Your ET is today, right? Good luck!

Allison,

If you are right about the freezing of 5 day embies, that would be a huge relief! I guess I'll ask them when I'm in there tomorrow. I read so many conflicting things on the internet that it's hard to know what to believe sometimes. Hope things are going well with you. I know you must be anxious to have things start moving along.

Zeena,

Where are you? I don't think I've seen any posts from you since after your ET. How did it go?

Sue,

If I'm correct, you are still on the 2ww? How are you coming along?

Caz/JenF,

Don't the two of you test this week? Sorry if I'm losing track. I just know it seems like the 2 of you have been on the 2 ww forever!

Tania,

How are you feeling these days? Have you gone back to work? You have another week, right? I'm glad they are doing the 5 day transfer on me because I was still in too much pain on Day 3! I'm still not back to normal (so sick of looking at this bloated stomach) but at least was able to stop taking painkillers.

Did those of you on the 2 ww pretty much take it easy for the first week then go back to regular activity? Have you gone back to exercise? I told my DH that I would give it until 5 days after the ET but that, after that, I planned to at least start riding the stationary bike and doing low impact stuff. He was not happy with that and said he doesn't want me doing anything to jepeordize the pregnancy. Am I never supposed to exercise again? I would think that the decrease in stress exercise gives me would help; not hurt things. I mean when people get pregnant naturally, they aren't modifying their activities early on as they don't even know they are pregnant yet.

Anyway, hope everyone is having a good day!

Staci
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Hi everyone

I haven't been posting because I have been in so much pain since the ET on Saturday - I just couldn't face sitting at a computer for very long. Well, the EC went pretty well on Wed - 15 egges, but ohmygoodness was I sore afterwards! I was OK to work the next two days (I spend most of my time at work sitting down).

I went in for the ET on Saturday morning - they said 10 embies, 4 of which were 'grade1', they put two back and have put the rest in blastocyte culture so we can freeze them if they make it to this stage (I hope not to go through all this again!). Anyway, I was OK afterwards for a couple of hours, but then the PAIN started in earnest!!

I have really acute lower back pain on the left, I just didn't know what to do with myself!! I felt phsycally sick and DH phoned my consultant who reassured us that it was likely to be only the swollen ovary. I basically had to let DH do everything (dinner, washing etc) which is really hard for me, I am terrible at not being able to do things for myself!! Finally yesterday things felt better but I am still in pain now and worst of all, I have been totally constipated!! I wish I could do something about this because I think my bowels are pressing on my swollen overy (sorry to be so graphic) but I just can't go (too painful). So I'm a bit miseralbe at the moment which isn't the best environment for the little embies!?! :(

I wish I knew when this pain will stop, I have to lie down every few minutes to let it subside, this is really tiresome.

Anyway, sorry to complain, but I thought if anyone has any advice or words of wisdaom, I would love to hear it.

Staci - I am really thrilled at your results, well done, the quality of your embies must be really good!

Caz/Tania - I'm thinking of you on the 2WW. The worst is over, just let nature take over from here.

Traci - 2 embies is great, I had two the first cycle, and I got a +ve result from that, good luck, I'm thinking of you too.

Jaye - my heart goes out to you, hang in there girl!

Allison - Good luck for Thursday. Let us know what they say.


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Hi there

Staci - I would wait to see how many embies you get that are good and good enough to freeze as to how many you put back. If you can freeze some then just go for the one but do take into consideration the freezing/thawing statistics too. Good luck what ever you choose to do.

Zeena - Poor you being in so much pain. It's all part and parcel of the IVF process I'm afraid but it's so worth it when you get that BFP!! It's like the pain of birth, it's horrendous at the time but women go back and do it all again. Keep thinking positive thoughts and drinking lots of water, you will be fine.

Allison - Thinking of you and hoping you get a bumper crop from your donor lady.

Traci - Good luck foe ET tomorrow. Fingers crossed honey.

Jaye - June will be here before we know it and we can go for that BFP! My only problem is Katelyn was due June 19th so I will be having an emotional time on top of the treatment :roll: I July anne going to be a June Buddy too?

Caz - Are you surviving the 2ww?? My tan is fading fast what with this shite English weather. I would jump back on that plane back to Lanzarote if I could. Best of luck.

Jen - The whole IVF thing is a bit of a mind messer isn't it? I never knew if I was coming or going in any my treatments. Good luck.

Tania - Good luck.

Sarah - I know that you keep quiet during your 2ww but I just want you to know I AM really thinking of you and sending lots of babydust over to you. It is your time I just feel it. Take care my friend.

Sorry if I have missed anyone.

I had to go to a family Christening yesterday and it was soooooo hard. My step sister in law said to me "It's so brave of you to come and as you know I can't have anymore children but at least you can try again"!!!!! :shock: Well that really made me feel like punching her lights out. Was that supposed to make me feel any better about Katelyn dying? Coz it sure as hell didn't. Some people have no bloody idea. She should be a bit more sympathetic as she had her baby at 26 weeks and nearly lost him (it was his Christening) but she hasn't had to endure years of IVF and all the crap which goes with it. I am sorry for ranting but I know all you lot KNOW what it's like and I needed to get it off my chest :(

Feeling a bit self pittying at the moment, sorry :oops:

Good luck every one and keep up those +++++ thoughts.

Love Dagny xkx :|
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
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Zeena,

I seem to be in the same boat as you. I thought I was the only one since I didn't see anyone else complaining about such symptoms! I even called the Dr.'s office a few days after the EC to ask them if what I was feeling was normal. I seriously could not go to the loo due to the pain and constipation. The only position I was comfortable in was lying down with the heating pad on my stomach. It has improved slightly at this point. I've had longer to rest it since I'm doing the 5 day transfer instead of 3. I cringe to think of what the ET would have felt like after 3 days. I'm just wondering if the ET tomorrow is just going to make matters worse again as it seems to have for you. :(
Did they say why the ET would make the pain worse again?

Did you happen to have more eggs and larger ones on your left side? If it is your left ovary which is very swollen, then it is pushing against your small bowel and that is what is causing the problem. At least that is what the nurse told me. She said that, of all their patients this cycle, I was the only one who overproduced on the left side (lucky me). I asked them how long before things go back to normal and they told me probably around 2 weeks if I'm not pregnant but could be up to 8 to 10 weeks if I am :shock: . LOVELY. When they realized that upset me, they tried to reassure me by saying it would get progressively better with time but I don't think they have any idea how dreadfully uncomfortable it is.

So, for whatever it is worth, you are not alone in your misery!

Staci
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Dagny - just to say, I WOULD have punched her lights out for you. What a ******!

Staci - you think no exercie until day 5 is bad - my DH has completely banned me until we know the results. ie 2 weeks of NO exercise - he spoke to the doctor about it who said that there was no evidence either way that it made any difference but that "if is was his wife he wouldnt let he do any exercise on the 2WW". So that of course was that!! O well.....

Traci - whats you news - whens ET losing track??

Love to all

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Hi Guys

There are so many of us......I am thinking of you all!!

As for the exercise thing, well I have been banned too!! What a bummer, It normally keeps me kind of sane! I am really annoyed but know if will be worth it if I get that BFP!

JenFx
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