Winter Cycle Friends 2009/2010 - Everyone Welcome!

[Stephanieford78]

Angela - If you feel better waiting for a HB, it's only one day. That way you can tell him tomorrow and feel better about telling him all at the same time. Not too sure about waiting until you are showing, that might be hard to do. Just tell him you haven't been feeling well today and tomorrow you can explain why. The best thing is to always stay positive right? Plan for the best and just hope you never see the worst. I have adopted a new motto... Believe it into existence! So this baby of yours will be just fine and make it full term!

Helene - Yeah, I can't wait! I am really excited to find out the genders too! I guess I should see what happens when I do the cabbage thing, just for fun of course. Unless I am having two of one or the other, I don't see it working out quite right. We shall see.

Sara - Totally missed your post somehow. Hope all your busy plans turned out awesome!

AFM - We are just trying to get the remaining pieces of the house put together still. If I had more energy and able to lift more and such it all would have been done in just 2 days. Since I have to rely on Andrew to do most of it, we are still not done. lol Soon enough though, then we plan on having a few people over for a BBQ so that will be fun.

[angelaezra]

angela Thats a hard one, have you spoken to his parents about his feelings? How do they want to handle it. I know you close with you nephew but put with ball in his parents court. They should understand the stress you are under and that you are tired, let them handle his emotions and don't worry about him, keep your happy thoughts for your own growing baby!

-Malya-

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I spoke to my sister about it and she said she would honor any wishes that I thought would be best since it was my news. But, I think he has already figured it out. He told her that he knew we wanted a baby so he thinks that is it. He is such a smart kid that it is hard to keep anything from him.

Angela

[angelaezra]

Angela - If you feel better waiting for a HB, it's only one day. That way you can tell him tomorrow and feel better about telling him all at the same time. Not too sure about waiting until you are showing, that might be hard to do. Just tell him you haven't been feeling well today and tomorrow you can explain why. The best thing is to always stay positive right? Plan for the best and just hope you never see the worst. I have adopted a new motto... Believe it into existence! So this baby of yours will be just fine and make it full term!

Helene - Yeah, I can't wait! I am really excited to find out the genders too! I guess I should see what happens when I do the cabbage thing, just for fun of course. Unless I am having two of one or the other, I don't see it working out quite right. We shall see.

Sarah - Totally missed your post somehow. Hope all your busy plans turned out awesome!

AFM - We are just trying to get the remaining pieces of the house put together still. If I had more energy and able to lift more and such it all would have been done in just 2 days. Since I have to rely on Andrew to do most of it, we are still not done. lol Soon enough though, then we plan on having a few people over for a BBQ so that will be fun.

Thanks for the advice ... I might just wait a day. I will try my best to keep your words of wisdom w/ me when I start having doubts but I have had so much taken away that it is just so hard to remain positive all the time. Thanks again!

Angela

[Stephanieford78]

Angela - I know how hard it can be. I have had a lot taken from me as well. Unfortunately I got to know my two oldest before they were taken from me and my mother, not to mention so much more. I don't like to talk about it, too painful. For a long time I felt like the world owed me. I lost my faith and started to believe in myself. Things finally started to fall into place and somehow it is working out. I had two taken from me and now two are being given back. Odd how things work out like that. I also believe that when a soul is lost because of miscarriage or stillbirth, that the soul will keep trying to come back. I think through all the heartache and pain, in the end is a miracle just waiting for us!

[gi]

Evening ladies,

Angela i agree with Steph, i would tell him after hb tomorrow the poor mite is so worried about you but will be so esctatic to hear you are pregnant again, i dont think you will relax to much with this pregnacy esp. after poor little Ashley so now is a good a time as any to tell him. Best of luck tomorrow xxx

Dr.Boots i am sorry you are still bleeding i will say a prayer everything goes will tomorrow and you get to see your little baby

Tammy you may have left for vacation aleady but just to let you know i went thro something very similiar on both my missed miscarriages. The 1st m/c was very faint hb and measuring behind at the 7wk scan we were given no hope just told to come back in 1 wk to see if had died, no bleeding cramps or anything it was the most difficult time of my life a d&c was orgainised at 9 wks as nothing was happening. 2nd m/c i had slight bleeding at 10wks went for scan and baby had passed away the week before, the bleeding stopped completly after the scan a d&c was organised at 11wks as we were told it could take a couple of months to pass naturally again a devastating time. The wait inbetween was awful and i dont think i could have handled a natural m/c, once i had the d&c i had a sense of relief and was able to start grieving (plus organinsed next cycle straight away!). My thoughts and prayers are with you at this difficult time, i wont say enjoy your vacation but do try get some family time and lean on dh and ds for love and support its what will pull you thro this xxxx

lou you can see a bit of a difference between the 2 wks, i agree with girls next time side shot that figure is just making me too jealous

katie does that mean your OB doesnt see the need for you to be on crinone at 15 wks??? J and i are doing up are garden next wk, he is buying me a garden swing so i can read my books and relax in sunshine with my big belly!!

Ronda sorry your ms is hanging around i hope you are not one of the ones that it continues till end of pregnancy!!

helene hope the christening and communion went well, cant believe you even got time to bake!

Steph i Loved the videos!!! Your babies are so cute and have grown so much, i am sorry to hear you have had a very diff. time in your life but this is your new life and a new family, you have a great attitude and deserve to be happy.

Claud how did the birthday celebrations go???

Franca are you still a Poas addict

Now i cant remember anymore!!! I had a lovely wkend in Wexford, we went to a gorgous restaurant with the most divine sticky toffee pudding, j ordered the "better than sex chocolate pudding" and said to the waitress its as near to sex as he has gotten in ages i told him to order lots more as thats all he will be getting everyone was roaring laughing, had to sneak off to loo to do injections will be glad when that part is over as someone will think i am a junkie!!! I am not feeling 100% at moment think i am coming down with a cold or something my throat and chest is sore though its weird as i am never sick guess my NK cells are still low so its all good cause apparently when they were high my body never got sick as it fought off everything....damn thing couldnt diffrenciate between colds and babies though ah well i will get the better of it!!! 12 wks tomorrow so happy so scared!!!!

gi xx

[ktelise]

Hi All -

Angela - We have a couple of names chosen for a first name but we have not narrowed it down quite yet. I also hope my placenta moves up and the doctor is confident that it will because it is very common.

Stephanie - Looking at your ultrasound I think baby 1 is a girl and I cannot tell with baby 2. Aren't girl names hard to pick? I am having that issue as well. I see you have a low placenta also. This is very common and 90% of the time the placenta moves up...you and I can pray that this happens for each of us!

Sara - Funny that they were wrong with the sex of the baby. Did you find out at 18 weeks?

Katie - You are lucky to have no headaches. My headaches and nausea is still sticking around especially in the evenings.

Karen - Reagan is a nice name for a girl.

AFM - I had a couple days of no nausea and thought it was over but...it is still here! I am not complaining of course!

[katie99]

Hi everyone -

I have got to start moving slower! I tend to get up quick and I keep getting this sharp pain across my entire lower abdomen when I do, you would think that I've learned this by now, but I guess not. It happened at the OB appt the other day too, I sort up jumped up off the exam table and its painful enough to make you want to double over. Jeez - how many times before I get in in my head to go slower? OK, well for any of you who have already had sex - good for you.
We just attempted it and it was a disaster! I could care less at this point, but my poor DH has been waiting since the last week of Jan! Poor guy! But all I could think of was "is bacteria going to enter my cervix? I know its closed, but still" So I'm pretty sure the look on my face was confusion, fear, worry - isnt that attractive? Then I look at my DH - who has a weird look too - and we just gave up. I asked him what he was thinking and he just said "its too weird, theres a life in there". So we moved on to dinner instead I mean I guess everyone feels this way, but I just feel too nervous. So there goes that.

Steph - Dont feel bad for missing the show, my DH watched it today and said "this is like IVF for beginners". Well lets hope that both of our Bps stay lowered for the entire time - wouldnt that be helpful? I wont ask about what you were saying before, but I do think the same way - if you lost 2 and now will have 2, i do believe that its the same souls still trying to get here. Clearly it was meant to be. Girl, you stop stressing getting the house together, slow and steady, Twin Mama. it'll get done soon enough.

Helene - Hope you had fun this weekend! Did you get the family pics that you were trying to get? Yes, my pg is from donor embies - its even in my signature. I was just lucky enough to have a very caring RE and the good timing of the wonderful couple who gave my RE rights to decide whom they went to, since my RE really doesnt have donor embies.. It was truly a blessing.

Angela - Its already dinnertime so you either told him, or you didnt, but since its just 1 day, I would have waited til tom. And then you can make a big deal out of telling him, so he feels special. Crossed for your u/s tom!!! I cant wait to hear about it! So very exciting!

Ryan - I hope you have a good news appt tom. I know its really been a long week for you to get through. Our thoughts are all with you. - xoxo

Gi - Let J have all the pudding he wants! I think you have the right idea to wait it out.Yes, my OB said it was a "moot point" to still be on the crinone at 15wks. now if my RE will ever call to wean me off... I'm sure he'll call tomorrow. Now hooray for you Gi !! Tomorrow is 12 weeks!!!! i hope your cold goes away, its common with the change of seasons - I dont know about Ireland, but we've had crazy temperature changes here lately. How is your Mam doing?

KTelise - aw, you poor girl, I'm sorry that you're still having those headaches and nausea. I hope that clears up soon!

Lou - is your Grandmother home yet? I know that you had a busy weekend, but I was thinking of you.

Hazel - Hope your trip was fantastic! You've been on my mind, miss you!

hugs & prayers to us all - xoxoxo

[babyluv]

Hi ladies!

Ok, LOTS of catching up to do so I will try personals later, but a quick update.

I was super excited to hit 10 weeks today. Just thought double digits was a good milestone Everything was fine until I got home from church, and just as I was pulling in my garage I felt a gush. Sure enough, there was quite a bit of pink blood. It didn't go away, so about 2 hours later I called the on call OB and she said if I started cramping or if it got worse go to triage. If not, come in tomorrow. Well, it got worse. More bleeding and almost red, so I dropped the kids off with a friend (so happy my friend lives in my neighborhood!), and met DH at the hospital (he was on his way back into town). Of course I was crying, calmed down at the hospital, and then started gushing blood. I only had a pantilnier, so I kept going to the bathroom. After I put my gown on, and underwear off, I would leave puddles wherever I went. Nice.

SO, I was sure I lost, or was losing, at least one baby. Thankfully they were both there, measuring on target (Baby A is 10w1d with a hb of 151, Baby B is 9w6d with a hb of 167). There is a large blood clot where one of the placentas started to detach, but since it's between the babies, they don't know which one. They aren't too concerned since both babies look perfect, but no sex and I have to take it easy for the foreseeable future. Nothing to be done but pray it goes away on it's own. Sometimes this size clot completely goes away, sometimes it stays around, partially goes away, or causes m/c. I have a good friend who actually just lost her baby this way. She found her blood clot around 6 weeks-ish, and lost the baby at 11 weeks. Praying this clot just goes away, but it was definitely a relief to see the little ones! Baby A was sleeping, Baby B was waving. I thought she had some good pics, but the ones she printed were terrible! Hoping to get better ones next week.

I have a feeling this is going to be just one of those pregnancies...but I am thankful they are OK!

[angelaezra]

Stephanie – I can’t thank you enough for the kind words and I am sorry to have brought up some bad feelings for you but just when you think you are alone, you meet kind people like you guys and you don’t feel so alone anymore.

Gi – thanks for the advice. I am so glad that you enjoyed yourself w/ your DH this weekend. I have to make an effort to get out w/ my DH and enjoy our weekends. I seem to sleep the entire weekend away because I am so exhausted!

Ktelise – I am sorry that you are still suffering from the nausea. Hopefully, you will feel better soon!

Katie – I remember that pain from my previous pregnancy and I kept doing the same thing you are doing. It is hard to remember to take it easy because we are always multi-tasking!

Babyluv – I am so sorry for your scare! I am so very happy the babies are measuring on target and their HB’s are fine. I am going to pray that your clot just dissolves and you and your babies will be fine. Do you have another appointment already set up w/ your RE or your OB to monitor your clot?

AFM – Ladies, I can’t tell you how lucky I feel to have you guys to chat with because I try and talk w/ my DH and he tries his best to understand but there is so much that he will never understand because we are the ones who have to go through all of the treatments and appointments. I decided to take everyone’s advice and wait to see what my scan tomorrow reveals before telling my nephew. It was so very sad, he wanted to come over to my house to see me but his mother (my sister) said we will go later this week and he started crying on the phone. I tried to ask him why he was so upset and he said I just really want to see you. I told him that we will spend some one on one time together just him and I this week and he said “ok”. So now my stomach is in knots now waiting for this scan tomorrow. Oh please god let this be our time!

Angela

[DrBoots]

katie- take it easy! nothing like a sharp pain to remind you!!! Hopefully it will go away soon

babyluv- I can relate scariest thing in the worl, been happening for 8 days now, and I never seem to "get used"to it
The good news is the babies are OK. I have done a LOT of reading the last week and it seems that SCH's are more common in twins PG's and happen in 20% of PPG's and only 3% of those end up in miscarriages. Enjoy the rest, I personally caught up on a book and watched a ton of marathons!!

AFM- of course I am super anxious and can't fall asleep, but in less than 12 hours I should have some answers. I hope! Have a great night ladies, I will pop on with news as soon as I can.

[Franca]

hey girls

i do read posts but i still never know what to say
i feel lost all the time and i don't know why. i wish i felt happy . You all seem to have such wonderful busy lives. Im stuck at home everyday. We have finacial problems too so i cant go out and spend any money. My family and friends are busy, my husband works his arse off. i wish i had a job or something. Iv never really had a job, just odd days here and there. i use to be into acting but that stopped because i looked after my sick father, that was years ago now. Wish i didnt feel so depressed.

anyone can help me get out of this blues?

love u

franca
xxxx

[angelaezra]

hey girls

i do read posts but i still never know what to say
i feel lost all the time and i don't know why. i wish i felt happy . You all seem to have such wonderful busy lives. Im stuck at home everyday. We have finacial problems too so i cant go out and spend any money. My family and friends are busy, my husband works his arse off. i wish i had a job or something. Iv never really had a job, just odd days here and there. i use to be into acting but that stopped because i looked after my sick father, that was years ago now. Wish i didnt feel so depressed.

anyone can help me get out of this blues?

love u

franca
xxxx

Franca – I am sorry you are feeling down. But, soon you are going to be so busy w/ your little one you that will not have time to feel down … lol. I also think it is the pregnancy hormones that are playing tricks on you. We had to inject so any hormones before we got pregnant and now we are on a hormone rollercoaster.

Are there any hobbies that you like to do or friends that you can set dates to see? Like go to a movie once a week w/ a girlfriend or out to lunch. It is funny that your circle of friends sometimes changes once you have kids. It seems that most of my friends and family started hanging out w/ other parents their kids’ age and that is what they had in common. But, just remember we are here for you also!

Angela

[lycase]

Hello Ladies – I hope everyone has a wonderful Sunday. It is raining so very hard here. We have a flood watch in several areas. I think we are supposed to get up to 3” of rain just today. Oh well, I am inside nice and dry!

AFM – I have a very difficult decision to make. My nephew and I are so very close … sometimes I pick him up from school or daycare and we just spend the day together. I have always been there for him since the night he was born (he is 9 years old now). But, he has seen my DH and I lose so many kids over the 10 years that we have been married, so I decided not to tell him that I was pregnant this time. Well, at least until I started showing and had no choice because he really took it hard when we lost Ashley last year. He came to the hospital and he thought I was going to die. He kept asking are you sure you are ok and of course I tried to comfort him as much as I could but he knew I was very upset. So now he thinks something is really wrong w/ me because I haven’t spent that much time w/ him or my family for that matter since I started this cycle because I am always exhausted. I try to go and visit my family and in about an hour or two I have to go home to take a nap. I talked w/ my husband about it yesterday and he thinks I should tell him but I want to wait until I at least see a HB tomorrow. What do you ladies think; should I just come clean and tell him today? Oh, he is insisting that his mother brings him over here so he can see for himself that I am really ok?

Thanks ladies for letting me bend an ear … I just love having you ladies around!

Angela

You know i think you are right on the idea of NOT telling him. I am NOT telling my mom about my pg cause first she would be mad cause we did FET so no use and she was so upset and worried about my last little one she said yesterday "finally he is baptised and so he is ok and safe now". so she is sitll worried so no need to worry about this lo until I show and even then she might not come over (4hrs away) so she doesn't need to know. Same with my dh family. Nobody knows.

I think it is very sensitive of you NOT to want to tell him and waiting until you show. I am sure he would love to see you pg instead of hearing about you being pg and worring about you again. Keep your secret in your heart and belly

My 2 cents.

Helene

[DrBoots]

OK, so it's over. Mo growth whatsoever, so I am going off all meds and hoping everything will happen naturally. I loved being here with you girls, and most likely will stalk and check in on everyone, but I have a busy week coming up and then vacation. Hoping DH and I caan find the funds for one more try.

[lycase]

angela - yes it's good for me to be busy or else I get in trouble that's what my dh says all the time. so on Sat evening we went out my mom, I and my DD. We went to the restaurant, also indigo (to read a bit) and we relaxed. My dh was busy with the kids and of course he was not happy but hey I had to spend time with my mom and DD cause he hates her so much (actually he hates both of them and even hates his mom??)

Glad your nephew figured it out. He is a sweetheart. Sorry he was so sad not to see you. He is amazing.

steph - it's so funny to read about your move and not being done cause you have to rely on dh my situation will be the same I am sure Fun stuff.

You know steph and angela - I also read that about the soul wanting to come back when life was taken. Someone said we have a certain amount of souls floating around us for children and each time we are pg one goes in and if we loose it it goes back floating around until we are pg again... and that's also why we still have to try cause that soul or souls are still waiting to come back and have chosen US to be their parents How sweet!!

gi - OH NO!!! NO time to back. I meant I forgot to ORDER the cake and was lucky to find a place they did it. But when I picked it up the deco on the cake was ORANGE can you believe that? I asked for "BLUE, GREEN and some YELLOW!!!" How can they be so OFF!!! Well I could not take it back so my mom and I are thinking Orange might have a meaning for God for my kids?? I will have to look that up on the internet one day

Your cake (chocolate sex) thing was so funny... I cannot believe they called like that I got to get myself some of that Sorry you felt sick dear so 12w tomorrow amazing... you are doing so great. I am so happy for you girl.

ktelise - so you had a scare so sorry dear but I am glad everythign is find.

Dh woke up Sat night and was trying also but I though nana... so I just pretented to sleep and he fell back asleep... but he got it before at some point so I am not too worried

Ok so you did DEmbies... amazing. How did this couple choose you? How many did you get? How exiting I am glad I am not the only one here like that. So how are you feeling being pg with someone else's baby? Does it feel whird? Me sometime I find it amazing and incredable... hard to believe. I am sad I lost so many to get the one but at least she is not still frozen now... So do you have children already? ok ok now I see it in your signy... you did IVF and had 4 cancelled cycle ok. Sorry about that. How did you go about adopting Embryo Adoption? Do you know how you will tell your baby and do you have all the info on the parents? Pictures etc? I just have pictures of mom not dad, but bio on both.

babyluv - omg what a scare I would have though the worse also. Boy your los are so strong and glad they are hanging nice and thight... you will be ok and they will be ok... yes you are right it might be hard just rest as much as you can if you can. So sorry dear.

drboots - so today is the day right... You will be ok and you will have good news I am sure you are amazing... hugs and waiting for your results

Franca - well you know it's true being busy helps you forget your life is not perfect... if I were not busy I would probably get after my dh a lot more. But we just go day by day really on our own way... I always want him to be around and it seams he always wants me to be away... so I try to stay away He is not a hugger or lover at all he likes to take care of things and take care of us so he never relaxes either... he is pretty amazing with his kids though I just sit there and watch how patient he is. Lucky he had such a good raising. My mom admitted to day she rebelled as a teen and got married with the wrong guy (my father) and she is still a mess today. And it's true. So my up brining was not great. We were raised in a screeming invironment where it was normal to raise your voice and talk loud. Get mad and yeil etc. Its' something my dh though he could help me with but he can't... so he is just complaining and giving up... he is right... but it's just to hard to change... His son is just like him, calm, mellow and going with the flow... nice!!!

Sorry I fell of track here... you have the blues and I am trying to cheer you up and I am NOT doing a good job at it. So yes it's hard when money is a problem. I use my visa so even if we have no money I go out... I don't worry about money. We are in the red but who is not right!!! Specially doing IVF... $$$ but you know libraries have nice sections for any interests and there are places you can go out like Indigo or Chapters where you can go read a book for free. I did that all the time when my DD was young. It was great. Is your hometown a small town or can you go out easy and do things? I hope you can cheep up and find the smile on your picture Hugs.

AFM - Well the weekend is not officially finished. Only thing left is official baptism pictures with baby and family which I can so after the move or something.

So Saturday went ok. Dh and my daughter were at it big... and with my mom in the van with them (of course she loves my daughter and hates my dh) so each he says bad stuff even if my mom doesn't understand a word of english she still feels the tension and knows he is giving her crap non stop and my DD is also playing the game. So of course as soon as I am alone with my mom I get the shit... So walked on egg shell all weekend. DH mad at me for too much official ceremonies and he was so tired of it he didn't even get dressed up for his own son's baptism. I was so upset... my I am dressing up all the kids and me and I never though I should have dressed him too. I though he could take care of himself... Anyways it's all done and so my little baby is now baptised and that is the main thing and Nicholas did excellent at his communion we got prof picture and it's perfect. And the family photos on Saturday went super good. Only problem we had to make 2 trips to bring people to the pictures cause we don't all fit in the van anymore.

So now I just have to try and concentrate on packing. Dh was so upset and frustrated he said I am getting an appartment. We are supposed to have 2 addresses for taxes and everything so for official reason he needs to get that after we sell the house but this time he said it like he wanted to leave us... I know he would never leave his children but I think he would go for get his frustration out... I guess that's ok?? Will see what happeneds.

Helene