March/April 2010 Cycle Group

[natakia1108]

Lauren- I live in New Jersey. I dont understand it either. They didnt give me BCP to start the nurse practioner said its best they meet first. My DH said should we go elsewhere but they do have a good rep. I dont know. They suggest you take a month off to rest thats so they can take there time!

Lauren,

Do you know people who have been successful? I wouldn't leave unless you feel the protocal & service is bad. They do often suggest you take a cycle off...it's a lot on our bodies. It also gives them time to determine the best protocal for you. It's sometimes helpful to review your file with their partners. You want the best suggestions possible. It's hard but if you think they are good doctors give them another chance.

[angelaezra]

beta was 36 today....RE said stop meds. How can I stop if they are still going up? 8, 19, 36 I know they are sooo low, but....UGH what do I do?

Neffi - I also responded to you on the general IVF forum regarding your post. I am so sorry that you have such a tough decision to make. If I have calculated correctly, are you supposed to be 5 weeks this week? I ask because I found this chart w/ a wide range of HCG levels, which if you are 5 weeks you are on the low end but w/in normal limits. The good thing is that you levels are doubling or almost doubling every 72 hours. I don’t blame you for questioning your RE. Did you by chance express your questions to him/her? If so, what was the response?

• 3 weeks LMP: 5 - 50 mIU/ml
• 4 weeks LMP: 5 - 426 mIU/ml
• 5 weeks LMP: 18 - 7,340 mIU/ml
• 6 weeks LMP: 1,080 - 56,500 mIU/ml
• 7 - 8 weeks LMP: 7, 650 - 229,000 mIU/ml
• 9 - 12 weeks LMP: 25,700 - 288,000 mIU/ml
• 13 - 16 weeks LMP: 13,300 - 254,000 mIU/ml
• 17 - 24 weeks LMP: 4,060 - 165,400 mIU/ml
• 25 - 40 weeks LMP: 3,640 - 117,000 mIU/ml
• Non-pregnant females: <5.0 mIU/ml

Reference: http://www.americanpregnancy.org/during ... evels.html

The only thing I can say is to continue monitoring your HCG levels every 72 hours because they cannot make a judgment if your pregnancy is viable until your HCG reaches above 2,000 via vaginal u/s.

I wish you good luck and I am praying for you!

Angela

[angelaezra]

Lauren- I live in New Jersey. I dont understand it either. They didnt give me BCP to start the nurse practioner said its best they meet first. My DH said should we go elsewhere but they do have a good rep. I dont know. They suggest you take a month off to rest thats so they can take there time!

Lauren – most RE’s have you wait a month to make sure your body has either recovered from a pregnancy loss or the stimming medications. I think it is a good idea because I remember when I tried to jump right into another transfer right after losing Ashley and my body just wasn’t ready yet and I got a BFN. I also think it is a great idea for your RE to meet w/ other RE’s because they all have different ideas and possibly new protocols that have worked for other patients that your RE could try for you. Remember, that IVF isn’t easy, there is the expense, the enormous stress on your body, your mental stress, and not mention you have to balance your normal life also. So because of all those reasons, I think you should have the best protocol and the confidence from both your RE and yourself for your next cycle. I think all RE’s should meet w/ other RE’s if they have a patient who receives a BFN. This ideology comes from working as a RN w/ so many different physicians and w/ so many different specialties and sometimes they become stumped on what the proper treatment should be for a patient and then they would consult another colleague and they might think of something that they overlooked or missed. It is very common practice among physicians.

I would definitely wait and see what they say. I know your DH is just disappointed right now. But, IVF is something that should be well planned out!

Angela

[Lauren1171]

Neffi - if you look at www.betabase.info
some women had very low betas that kept doubling and they got to hear a heartbeat! I would definitely give it til week 6.

[TammyS]

beta was 36 today....RE said stop meds. How can I stop if they are still going up? 8, 19, 36 I know they are sooo low, but....UGH what do I do?

Do NOT stop you meds! Corny from our cycle group 2 yrs ago...had the same thing happen and ended up with TWINS!

Angela...Congrats on hearing a hb today. I am so very happy for you. Update on the whole fever thing...I am happily embarrassed to say that my ear thermometer (Zach's) kept reading a temp all week, but after making DH go out and buy a regular under the tongue type (I couldnt find mine, till he got home, of course)...it has been reading perfectly normal. Soo apparantly I do not have a temp and am fine. lol Crazy.

Lauren...I am sooo sorry. I fully understand how you and your DH are feeling right now. I have turned it all over to God and trust what he feels is right for us...since only he knows the bigger picture. It's hard, but that is what I am trying to do. It's all in his hands. I am hoping something is on the horizon for both of us and that all of our dreams will soon come true. I am a firm believer that everything happens for a GOOD reason and that we just have to trust that it will all work out.

Natakia... Congrats on an awesome second beta number!

McFarland..Congrats PUPO!!! Get some rest now!

AFM: I think my miscarriage is finally over now. TMI: I ended up passing the baby while traveling to the airport and flying to Myrtle Beach. Unbelievably bad timing. Since I was only a little over 5 weeks...it wasnt really too bad...not like it would hae been had I been 6 or more weeks along. I havent even had any heavy bleeding...which I dont normally anyways, if you remember me talking about it before. I dont know yet, if we will be trying again in July, but we are talking a little bit about it. Tomorrow...we plan to release pink and blue balloons on the beach...in honor of our baby and all 5 of our lost embryos...our little angels...over the last 2 years.

[Debbie67]

sorry to read those who have BFN...

Neff i211 I am with Tammy, I don't think I would stop med's if it is rising?? I would ask an explanation anyway. Did they give you a reason?

I wish I could keep up with ya all! LOL!

Just a quick question? Who thinks I should HPT? LOL! Would it be safe yet? Or to early?

Thanks

[Lauren]

Tammy, Natakia, Angela, Lauren and Helene (anyone else I might of forgot)

Thank you all. I know everything is for a reason and there is a plan for everyone. My DH was just venting. We've had such a rough month with everything and my BF dying. It wouldve been nice to hear some good news! We are upset but we decided we will try again in July because we are going on vacation in June. So we will just wait to see what the RE says in a few weeks. I hope they come up with a new plan to make me alot of follies. I was on Follistim and Menopour so we will see. I also think I will do acupuncture or Something of that sort. My office has a holistic nursing team so we will see. I know I have a good group of docs. I just dont know why the two embies didnt grow or take. In the past I had a histor of low progesterone but I was taking the replacement. I hope that we can get enough eggs that maybe we can let them grow to be blasts and increase our chances or at least freeze.

Thank you ladies you truly have been so supportive! I wish you all the best.

<3 Lauren

[lycase]

beta was 36 today....RE said stop meds. How can I stop if they are still going up? 8, 19, 36 I know they are sooo low, but....UGH what do I do?

sorry just had to quote this one:

neffi - I don't understand why you sould stop your med your beta is doubling each time... it's low but it onlyl indicates LATE implantation... I would NOT stop... something is in there and growing just give him/her a chance wait until your body knows what is going on... I would keep the Faith dear. Hugs.

Helene

[lycase]

Oh Lauren - yes it is easy to loose your Faith when things like that happend to you. when we learned about our son having T21 my dh was mad at the priest who told us to have a child on our own cause IVF and DE was NOT allowed. I mean he is right too we would NOT have had a DS child if we didn't listen to hime. But now that he is here and he is amazing sometimes I try and think that this little baby might one day save my marriage like some other priest say. We are always up and down cause we are so different about germes and the way to raise kids (him TV and me OUTSIDE and play)... so maybe there will be some things my lo will say sometimes that will just help us focus on what is important... so it's hard but hopefully there is a reason and a light at the end of the tunnel. Hugs. Now how to improve your egg quality and amount only acupuncture and herbs can help I think. It's natural but withouth acupuncture I know I would have have my DS little one and I would NOT be pg now... Also the pg vit the Preg Vit are very very amazing I also thing they really help when you are pg... so when you reach that stage (and I know you will you are so young) just make sure you get those pg vit. I am going to be around and cheering you on girl don't you dare give up... I have to do another FET anyways even if there will be no more babies I got to go and get my 6 left so I am sure we will be cycling together soon. Love and hugs.

mcfarland - so you just had to ET yesterday congrats and welcome to the 2ww killer Oh so it was a FET and 2 survived great... Blastos always do good so I think you are going to be one of the lucky ones Important to try and rest also...

Tammy - I think the pink and blue balloons are a wonderful idea and very joyful for Zach also to help him understand... You sound relieved and happy today I am glad to hear that... you have such a beautiful family and Zach WILL have a sibling one day I know it You hang in there girl and enjoy your vacation. Hugs.

Lauren - yes acupuncture is the answer and also herbs and preg vit also when you TTc. I do acupuncture and Preg Vit and they worked for me the last 2 times and I am 45 remember You can do it... try and do acupuncture for 3 months prior to cycling if you can it will definitly help your reproductive system make better egg quality and quantity also I believe plus the lining etc. You go girl.

AFM - last night I just learned that the move is happening May 7th and not 14th. So imagine my panic when I hurd that. My dh says he told me and everything well we have the place until May 15 so I guess I just assumed we were moving that weekend. Anyways so of coures I packed like crazy and have to call the phone company again about the move date change... boy oh boy. But it's going good considering... the kids are really exited to go to the new house. They saw it twice and wanted to go again last night they like to run and play hide and seek in an empty house too cute.

And for the house we sold they have until this Wed to sign the final agreement and no apt has been made yet so ??

And the worse news I got yesterday was that at work we might all be let go (shortage of money) by the end of the month. That's my kinda work you never know when you will work and not work. Actually it would be nice to have one month off to set the house up so again I think it's God watching over my family. But I sure hope I would get another job after?? If not then we are lost again

So that's my news for today.

Hugs and send me an email if you want to chat on facebook if you are worried or bored (Franca and the others).

Helene

[Neffi211]

Tammy--- Thank you so much I could not remember Cornybaby!!!! This is the only story of low beta that went to live birth, didnt she lose one of the twins though?

We are continuing meds....next beta Thursday so we'll see

[lycase]

Tammy--- Thank you so much I could not remember Cornybaby!!!! This is the only story of low beta that went to live birth, didnt she lose one of the twins though?

We are continuing meds....next beta Thursday so we'll see

Glad you decided to continu your meds. I am hoping Thrusday it continus to rise.

Good luck

Helene

[amanda1979]

Well ladies my doctor just called and my beta test is negative. My DH is at work, but he is now on his way home bc I really need him. I guess we get to do it all over again in July. God this is harder than I ever imagined it would be.
Amanda1979

[lycase]

Well ladies my doctor just called and my beta test is negative. My DH is at work, but he is now on his way home bc I really need him. I guess we get to do it all over again in July. God this is harder than I ever imagined it would be.
Amanda1979

Oh NO!!! Amanda I am so sorry dear. How horrible. I am glad your dh is coming home and sorry for all the hopes and downs... You will get your baby I know it... keep the Faith and try and heal when you can. Hugs.

Helene

[emmax]

HI YA ALL JUST A LITTLE UPDATE WELL STILL BLEEDING A BIT SO THEY CALLED ME IN FOR ANOTHER SCAN HAD 2 NOW IN A WEEK WELL ALL WAS GOOD BABY GROWING 7 WEEKS NOW THEY CHECK CERVIXS ALL CLOSED THEY SAID SOME TIMES IT JUST HAPPENS BUT I HATE IT XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

[natasha10]

hey anyone who is listening. march i stared my first ivf attempt and i got the news april 27th it failed. today is may 4th a week later and already starting to do another attempt. im afraid to fail again and it costs so much but it hink its so worth it. i'd give anything to have a baby of our own. i like to hear others stories and make my self feel better or reassurance that it does work and is possible. im going on vacation on the 20th to bahamas and i didnt think it was a great idea to go thru with the second so fast or before we go on vacation. im ust hoping for a miracle i dont no. nothing goes perfect and so far its no where near. i wanted to wait for my first attempt til after we got married and now i feel like i was asking for too much and too perfect. i guess i feel like im to blame but i need to pick myself up and think happy thoughts. its just so much. the cost, the injections hurt, the wait sucks then failure it really bummed me out. if anyone has anything to say to make me feel better i could use it. my story is too long i dont wanna bore anyone to type it all. well it was nice to vent a bit.
natasha