March/April 2010 Cycle Group

[lycase]

Thanks Lauren, actually I love moving cause the house is so clean for a few weeks a place for everything and the kids didn't get the time to mess it up everywhere yet

I would go for message for stress that is awesome. I am so happy you are going on a vacation and take your mind off cycling. You need to rest to get back at it... We are here for you dear and will be cheering you on.

Hugs.

Helene

[natakia1108]

Hi Ladies,

I just got the results of my 3rd beta: It went from 811 to 2589. I'm so excited. My next step is to keep taking the estrogen patches & the im oil shots & have my U/S on 5/24!

Natakia

[Lauren]

Thxs helene

do you know what a estrace protocol is? She said its more agressive?

[lycase]

Hi Ladies,

I just got the results of my 3rd beta: It went from 811 to 2589. I'm so excited. My next step is to keep taking the estrogen patches & the im oil shots & have my U/S on 5/24!

Natakia

Way to go girl. I am so exited for you girl. Wow that is a great no. Congrats.

Helene

[lycase]

Thxs helene

do you know what a estrace protocol is? She said its more agressive?

You know Lauren, I have no clue. I never ever stimmed cause I am WAY TOO OLD so can't help you. But if it's more agressive then it would be good unless you get too much pain... I hope they know what they are doing and it's going to work this time...

but I found this: http://www.fertilethoughts.com/forums/h ... tocol.html doesn't seam to be much help but when you look online it's mostly results to buy Estrace not much else. Sorry

I will be thinking about you girl.

Helene

[natakia1108]

Thxs helene

do you know what a estrace protocol is? She said its more agressive?

Hi Lauren,

If I'm getting this right. It's estrogen...you should ask your RE to be sure. But I starting taking them 6 days before my transfer along with the im prog shots. I take 4 vivelle estrogen patches every other day. I switch sides of my abdomen each time I take them. I guess it all worked out or helped, since I got a BFP. But they also have estradil supositories...but from different posts I've read, women seem to prefer the patches. I like the patches and hate anything I have to insert inside of me other than tampons...I just hate a mess & the supositories can be a bit messy. I do hate the adhesive marks that come with the patches...but a small price to pay.
Hope this helped.

Natakia

[Lauren]

Helene-Thxs for the website. As I was looking it up the nurse called me from the office so I will fill you guys in. And yes a new clean house...LOVE IT too!!

OK...So they called me and reviewed my case. They said my egg quality was good and the fact that I had 100% fertilization was great! They said they will do a more aggressive start of Follistim and menopous but prior to that I will start Estrace on day 20 of my cycle. Go in for u/s and bw. start Estrace for 10-12 days and then start stimulating again. She said BCP has both estrogen and progesterone which suppress you in some ways so using the estrace will give me a better chance at producing more eggs. Also since it took awhile to get my follies growing they are starting me at a higher dose and when I start the Ganirelex I will prolly increase my menopour as well. So she said its up to me and my schedule. There IVF lab closes for two weeks in July so she is gonna have the IVF coordinators call me and give me some dates and decide if June will work but Im thinking most likely Jully so I can rest up enjoy vacation and get physically and mentally ready I talked it over with the husband and I told him that this last go around everything was so stressfull...not knwing what to expect or how I would feel...my job...my BF...Life in general and that we need to start living our lives better. Stop all this worrying and stressing all the time. its not that serious and our health is NOT worth it! I told him our focus is on making a baby ...so STOP putting unnecessary stress on our relationship! we had a good talk. I just hope I can get him to stick to it. He is one who likes to worry about all the things that "might" happen. Always about finances and bills...I told him we pay our bills...Stop freaking out those damn bills are still gonna be there tomorrow and the next day! We are doing our best to get them paid off!!! Drives me nuts! Anyway enough about my hubby...looks like I will be able to take time at work if my family leave act gets approved so I dont have to stress about that and hopefully I will be geting my massages and maybe acupuncture or reiki...looking into ladies so my faith and positive streak is back!!! Like always I am cheering for each and everyone of you on here and by the sidelines as I dont always get to all personals!

[lycase]

Helene-Thxs for the website. As I was looking it up the nurse called me from the office so I will fill you guys in. And yes a new clean house...LOVE IT too!!

OK...So they called me and reviewed my case. They said my egg quality was good and the fact that I had 100% fertilization was great! They said they will do a more aggressive start of Follistim and menopous but prior to that I will start Estrace on day 20 of my cycle. Go in for u/s and bw. start Estrace for 10-12 days and then start stimulating again. She said BCP has both estrogen and progesterone which suppress you in some ways so using the estrace will give me a better chance at producing more eggs. Also since it took awhile to get my follies growing they are starting me at a higher dose and when I start the Ganirelex I will prolly increase my menopour as well. So she said its up to me and my schedule. There IVF lab closes for two weeks in July so she is gonna have the IVF coordinators call me and give me some dates and decide if June will work but Im thinking most likely Jully so I can rest up enjoy vacation and get physically and mentally ready I talked it over with the husband and I told him that this last go around everything was so stressfull...not knwing what to expect or how I would feel...my job...my BF...Life in general and that we need to start living our lives better. Stop all this worrying and stressing all the time. its not that serious and our health is NOT worth it! I told him our focus is on making a baby ...so STOP putting unnecessary stress on our relationship! we had a good talk. I just hope I can get him to stick to it. He is one who likes to worry about all the things that "might" happen. Always about finances and bills...I told him we pay our bills...Stop freaking out those damn bills are still gonna be there tomorrow and the next day! We are doing our best to get them paid off!!! Drives me nuts! Anyway enough about my hubby...looks like I will be able to take time at work if my family leave act gets approved so I dont have to stress about that and hopefully I will be geting my massages and maybe acupuncture or reiki...looking into ladies so my faith and positive streak is back!!! Like always I am cheering for each and everyone of you on here and by the sidelines as I dont always get to all personals!

Well sounds fabulous to me. You could surely use more eggs I hope this is exactly what you need and you get 10+ so you can really get your baby this time. I will be here cheering for you girl you better believe it.

Hugs

Helene

[nicliz]

Hi ladies, back from ET. We decided (after much discussion with the RE) to only transfer one embryo (a day 6 hatched blastocyst).. we had two others to transfer but decided to freeze, bc he felt bc of my age (im 31) that one would be ok to transfer esp since it looked good. i know it only takes one, so now im onto bedrest and the awful 2ww. thanks for everything! did anyone else just transfer one?

[Lauren1171]

So my beta 3 days ago was 233. Today it was 271. They said to discontinue all meds because it's either an early miscarriage, or it's an ectoptic. Going back next week and if no bleeding they will do u/s to see if they need to do d&e. I am worried about bleeding while I am away! Should I keep taking meds so it doesn't happen yet? Ugh!!! I asked if there was any chance it was just slow growing and she said none! She even said go ahead and drink and have fun. How much fun can a pool wedding be if I am bleeding to death and it's 90 out? I did not expect this cycle to work anyway. I wanted to get it out of the way before my trip so I could do a fresh cycle when I returned. I pray it doesn't happen while I there...especially on the plane! This sucks though. I think I am more upset about the fact that I am going to bleed at any unknown moment than it not working. I wish I got a BFN instead of this! I don't know what the deal will be about starting a fresh cycle. I imagine with a miscarriage I will have to wait til July. Well tonight I will be drinking alot! I may even start on the plane or at the airport. Speaking of which, I better go finish packing!

[lycase]

Hi ladies, back from ET. We decided (after much discussion with the RE) to only transfer one embryo (a day 6 hatched blastocyst).. we had two others to transfer but decided to freeze, bc he felt bc of my age (im 31) that one would be ok to transfer esp since it looked good. i know it only takes one, so now im onto bedrest and the awful 2ww. thanks for everything! did anyone else just transfer one?

Well yes like you said a perfect embryo is all it takes and being so young you are going to make it and have 2 for siblings. Congrats on being PUPO and welcome to the 2ww. Enjoy the nightmare.

Helene Hugs

[lycase]

So my beta 3 days ago was 233. Today it was 271. They said to discontinue all meds because it's either an early miscarriage, or it's an ectoptic. Going back next week and if no bleeding they will do u/s to see if they need to do d&e. I am worried about bleeding while I am away! Should I keep taking meds so it doesn't happen yet? Ugh!!! I asked if there was any chance it was just slow growing and she said none! She even said go ahead and drink and have fun. How much fun can a pool wedding be if I am bleeding to death and it's 90 out? I did not expect this cycle to work anyway. I wanted to get it out of the way before my trip so I could do a fresh cycle when I returned. I pray it doesn't happen while I there...especially on the plane! This sucks though. I think I am more upset about the fact that I am going to bleed at any unknown moment than it not working. I wish I got a BFN instead of this! I don't know what the deal will be about starting a fresh cycle. I imagine with a miscarriage I will have to wait til July. Well tonight I will be drinking alot! I may even start on the plane or at the airport. Speaking of which, I better go finish packing!

OMG Lauren that is terrible. I really didn't think it was so hopeless. I undestand the fact that you want it over with and enjoy your party. This is such a dellima... wow so soso very sorry and hugs to you and your dh. I have no words to say how sad and upset I am to hear your news. I will be praying for you girl.

Helene

[angelaezra]

Waiting4GodsMiracle – So you had your ET on Tuesday … that is awesome! I have to say I admire you for not POAS; I just couldn’t wait, so I cheated every time I cycled … lol.

Helene – I am glad you have a plan set for all of your work. That is great that your DH is able to get the move started, I hope the move isn’t too stressful. I know your kids will love your new place!

Natakia – thanks so much for the advice. I should be used to people being insensitive to what my DH and I have been through by now but it just makes me so mad every time. It is probably because I carry my heart on sleeve. I understand that everyone’s situation is different and sometimes having a child can be such a difficult decision but their situation is different and they are always doing things so backwards and irresponsible. It is like they are kids themselves! Oh, how I hate I have to socialize with them but I don’t think I can get out of that since they are in-laws … ugh!

I just read your next post about your beta; that is a great 3rd beta. You might have more than 1 embryo in there. How many did you transfer again? And, when is your first u/s?

Kajol – thank you so much for sharing your story. I guess we all have these situations to deal with but I think it is just the timing of everything.

Lauren – I have read some articles that said some RE’s are adding Estrace after the ET because the combination of estrace/progesterone helps with implantation. I am not sure if this is exactly what your RE is thinking but maybe. Please let us know what they say because I am curious also.

Oh, I just read your next post. That sounds like a great plan … I just wanted to warn you about the family leave. This depends on your company and how their FMLA is set up, but most plans only provide you 6 weeks of paid leave and 6 weeks of non-paid leave, but this is the important part, it is usually only approved for once a year occurrence. I say that because I would hate for you to use up a lot of your FMLA time now and when you become pregnant have a problem getting it approved again. This actually happened to a co-worker of mine. She thought she had throat cancer, so she was off for about two weeks for treatment and doctor’s appointments. They also put her on an antibiotic, which made her birth control ineffective, so she became pregnant the very next month. But, the problem was my company would not approve two FML’s in one year. So after she delivered the baby she only had a few weeks of paid leave left. I know crazy, right?

BTW – Orlando sounds great. I went for the first time 4 years ago for a business meeting in Disney World and I had such a good time that my DH and I went back the next year and stayed for a week. We had a blast!

Nicliz – I am happy your ET went well. So, you decided to only transfer 1 embryo … that is great. I am proof that it only takes one embryo to get pregnant. Good luck during your 2ww transfer.

Lauren1171 – I am so sorry. Did they tell you what your progesterone level is? I ask this because with an ectopic pregnancy, usually the HCG might start out normal but slowly progress but the progesterone level is usually low. And, I know when I had my ectopic; I was in such severe, severe pain that I knew something was wrong. I can’t remember have you had any severe pain w/ this pregnancy? I am not sure about continuing the meds because you might not feel well if you continue taking the meds and start drinking. Also, if it is truly an ectopic, you don't want to continue the meds because the embryo will continue to grow and if it is in your fallopian tube, it could burst, which can be deadly. I do hope you and your DH can have some time to heal and enjoy each other. Once again, I am so sorry.

AFM – I had a pretty good day today at work. I have decided to tell some of physician offices that I am pregnant because I am starting to show. I have noticed that they keep looking at my stomach … lol. So I feel impelled to say something. Also, a lot of my doctors’ where there for me emotionally when I lost Ashley so they are absolutely thrilled for me, but they do understand why I am so scared at the same time. They have been great support for my DH and I.

Angela

[Lauren1171]

Thanks Angela, I didn't think of that if it's ectoptic! What if I just take the progesterone? I asked the nurse if I could keep taking meds and she said up to me. I don't have pain. Just very bloated. They never tell me progesterone levels and I always forget to ask. But I have been doing it twice a day so they can't be low.

[Lauren]

Angela- I actually took Estrace after my ET with the progesterone. This protocol is taking Estrace prior to cycling. She told me its proven at other facilities to help increase your eggs. I dont know? Glad your feeling alittle better. Thats nice that you have the support at your job. As far as the FMLA my boss said I have to take it otherwise me missing work looks like an "occurance" on my record. We have this new company at work handling all this. My hope is that I can schedule myself around it. Its hard because my doctor says we get two days off following a ER and ET but then the instructions say no lifting exercising no sex and no cleaning like scrubbing or vaccuming until blood test. So with my job thats impossible!! So Im not sure what the right track is..Im just hoping for the best.

Lauren-Oh man..I am so sorry. I cant believe this and to have to go away like you said and not know whats happening. Ive never had ectopic so Im not sure whats going on but I am here praying for you and your Dh hoping you dont have any issues while away and can enjoy yourselves. I know this must be very tough emotionally as well. Take care and remember were all here for you!