Winter Cycle Friends 2009/2010 - Everyone Welcome!

[Stephanieford78]

Helene - You are way too critical of yourself. Your bump is gorgeous and you can't even tell you don't have a button. I wish I looked that good. lol Seems the babies have been pushing up all the fat that use to be lower upwards. So now I have two bumps. I can't even suck it in. Oh well, I am just happy to have them in there, even though I am sure they will wreck my body even worse than it has been wrecked in the past. lol And glad DS is ok! He is so adorable! I agree with Karen on the DH issue. It doesn't appear from what you describe that he is very nice to you. Throwing boxes in front of the door?? You are pregnant!! He is the man, he needs to get to work!

Karen - I have to get some of that stool softener. This constipation is really bugging me. Last night I was up unitl 2:30 watching a movie. I assumed it would only be 2 hours but no... 3 1/2! I finally got up at 10:30 this morning. lol That's so cute how obvious it is now to see you are preggers. Andrew doesn't seem to be as much into the pg as I figured he would be since these babies are his first. He doesn't reach for my bump much, he doesn't really care to read the weekly developments, he just asked now and then how the twins are doing. All I can say is they are still in there. lol Not like I feel them kicking all over the place. Though I think I felt a little something last night. It was so minor but I am pretty sure it was movement. I am surprised you haven't felt yours by now! Maybe you are confusing their little movements with gas or bowel movement? It is very similar. By week 20 you should be able to tell the difference I bet. I can't wait to see your registry list! Might help me with a few ideas. lol I still have to wait until next Friday to find out pink or blue or one of each. Time needs to hurry and go by!

Katie - Welcome back! Don't worry about the baby bump. It only grows a cm every month! Not too noticable until all of a sudden you look and WOW! Kind of like what Karen said her DH looked at her and said, Wow you really are pregnant. lol I haven't posted any new pics mostly because I can't tell the difference in the pics. I can feel the difference but visually, not a big change at all, if any. I can feel the top of my uterus is now abive my button but when I stand to take a pic, doesn't look much different from the 18 week look that I posted at 12 weeks. lol Your poor nips! I feel for you... I hit them all the time. My boobs have gotten so damn big. lol Even when I try to cuddle with Andrew I have to position myself such a way so not to crush the girls.

Babyluv - I think you are good either way. Just like OB said, you can do whatever. I stopped at 11 weeks and was just fine and so were the babies. Just follow your instincts and if you have any doubt, just call RE and ask if it is ok to stop early because the bleeding is taking such an emotional toll on you. Spotting does make it hard to enjoy a pregnancy. I am so glad that I finally stopped, though the headaches took the place of the spotting. lol It's still a trade up if you ask me.

AFM - Well, like I was telling Karen... I think I felt the babies move or at least one of them last night. lol I was laying on my stomach cuddling with Andrew last night when I felt it. I hope it continues and gets stonger fast. I want to feel them all the time! Also.. the night before I had contraction after play time. I was a little freaked out but I know it's normal. I had Andrew feel it and then feel again after it was gone. He had me call L&D to make sure everything was ok. lol Of course they said it was normal.

Yesterday Andrew went shopping without me, I wasn't feeling up to doing much yesterday. I had a headache that wasn't liking the bright sun or movement. He came back and DD was helping him put the groceries away. She opened the paper plates and he flipped. He yelled at her and threw a bit of a fit. It scared her and I told her to leave the kitchen and he can put the groceries away by himself. He got mad, left through the back door, came back and finished. I sent DD up to take a shower because I knew I was going to lose it on him. Remember how he said he was going to get help for PTSD... well he never did. He has been putting it off claiming he has no time and doesn't want to admit he is crazy. That is his excuse, not that he is crazy of course. So anyway, I told him that tomorrow (today now) he goes to get help, he brings me back proof that he did it or he does not come home at all. He continued to flip out a bit, but I explained there was no reason for him to blow up like that. He does it a lot and usually towards her and that is not fair to her, she is just a kid and doesn't deserve to be talked to or yelled at like a soldier. He left to see if the clinic was open and while he was gone he calmed down and saw the error in his ways. Called me crying and how he can't believe he did that. He now sees how important it is to get help and is doing that as I write this. He has been doing it all day. RIght now he is seeing someone who wants to evaluate him to see if he needs medication. After that I told him he needs to sign up for parenting class. They already are referring him to the off post hospital (the one I go to) to be seen by a mental professional there. He said he told them everything, not just the war issues but his childhood as well. It's good to know that he is getting help with all of it. I think his PTSD is not only war related but also PTSD from his childhood. He did come back yesterday and apologized to DD. She looked at him and said that she understands that it isn't all his fault, that the Army made him this way. I think that is so perseptive of her to realize that Daddy was one way before and came back a different way and associated it with being away with the Army. Finally, he can start to get help and hopefully be closer to the man I married. I love him either way, but not sure how much longer I can put up with him the way he has been the past year and he has only gotten worse it seems. Sorry about the book I am writing, but I don't really have anyone else to tell and I needed to vent. I can't tell any of the few friends I have, they are all Army wives and he doesn't want anyone to know that he has to see anyone. He thinks by going that he is admitting he is crazy and so scared that it will effect his career. Anyway... I hope everyone is ok and feeling great! Thanks for listening.

[hjw]

Hi all, just a quickie as we've been away at a family wedding, have just got back, and I'm off to my parents tomorrow morning to spend some time with my father (there's no news since I last posted on Thursday, btw, we are still waiting for the surgical team to have their meeting this Wednesday and then hopefully we will find out some more about his diagnosis and possible treatment options). I shalln't be able to check in until later this week so thought I would do a quick few personals.

Steph - phew, thank goodness you got the rings off without them needing to be cut, that would have been just awful. Are you going to wear one/some of them on a necklace, do you think? babyluv's fake ring idea is a good one, would that sort of make up for not having your real diamond rings on your hands for the next 5 months? What a nice thing that you're now on the director's radar, hopefully since that conversation people will start doing what they should have been doing in the first place! How odd about the weird cervix feeling - I haven't had that, but I've certainly had a lot of weird and uncomfortable pressing sensations in my lower abdomen which I've slowly come to realise is Zorba turning around, so the possibility of one of the Army brats being naughty and kicking it's Mummy's cervix wouldn't surprise me. p.s. I've just caught your last post as I'm about to post this - I'm so pleased for all your sakes that your DH feels he can talk to someone now, it's so very important, particularly as your family life is going to get more demanding once the babies come. Hugs to you, hopefully he will be able to get all the help he needs.

babyluv - yay for hitting the end of the first trimester! Sorry to hear that you're still having spotting - Steph's explanation of the baby aspirin effect makes sense, it will be so interesting to see whether your spotting stops like magic at 13 weeks when you stop taking it.

angela - I'm sure the pains are totally normal stretching and growing pains, I had those starting fairly early on and continuing until about 17/18 weeks. Hopefully your app't today went well and you got to see your little one again, looking all perfect on the screen!

gi - poor you, the itchy rash sounds really annoying, has it got any better? Bless you for still saying that you'll stop worrying after the 'next scan' - you're well into the second trimester now so it really is time to relax! But it won't be too many more weeks and then you'll hopefully be able to feel the baby starting to wiggle about, and then you can have a regular reminder that everything's OK in there...

claud - you just have the cutest bump imaginable! Did you go maternity clothes shopping over the weekend? My bump is continuing to just grow and grow, it has a life of its own! I totally forgot to get DH to take a photo of just the bump at the weekend and all the photos of me at the wedding don't show the bump all that well (but they do show the probably inadvised 4 inch pink heels that I was determined to totter around on!), but I'll have another look through (and/or take some new photos) and try and post a photo of the beach ball over the next week or so. Good luck with your nuchal scan tomorrow!

Helene - poor you, you're having such a trying time lately! I hope Jamie is doing OK after his fall. Thanks for your support after I posted about my father, hopefully we won't be told the worst news but the surgeon wanted us to prepare for it to be bad I think, so we know which way it's more likely to go. It's a shock when your parents start getting (and seeming!) old. My father has not been in great shape physically for a long time - he has had terrible arthritis for a couple of decades, had both hips replaced between 10-15 years ago and since then has had various high blood pressure and heart problems amongst other things. He's almost 80 now, so in a way it shouldn't be a huge shock that he's physically slowing down, but you still wish you could turn the clock back to the strong energetic man who used to race you in the swimming pool when you were a kid!

dodo - hello and welcome! Wishing you all the patience in the world in your 2ww. When is your beta?

karen - poor you, I'm just starting to lie awake in bed at night but nothing as bad as you, and if it's frustrating me I can't imagine how frustrated and tired you feel. Hopefully the OB will be able to confirm whether there is something safe for you to take. Otherwise, I can't remember whether you are an acupuncture person or not but if you did used to have it, a session may help you to sleep as well.

katie - honey, I am SO happy to see you posting on here, I was starting to get worried about you when you hadn't visited for a while. I hope you, DH and Gracie are managing to come to terms with Cassie not being with you, I've been thinking of you ever so much. Hopefully you can get that anomoly scan booked in soon and have something good to look forward to. Please don't worry that everything is not right with the baby, you've just hit the 'quiet' patch which comes after the tiredness/nausea of the first trimester but before the growth spurt and the baby starting to move.

Take care everyone, speak soon!
Hazel

[babyluv]

Ok, so after reading up some on SCHs, I think I AM going to stop the aspirin, lol! It sounds like some doctors put their patients on them when they find a bleed, but most seem to have their patients stop. So I'm not sure if I'll just take it every other day for the next week, or just stop tonight. I am so over the spotting. I am thankful to have no cramping and a home doppler, because it's been nice to hear at least one hb (never can tell if I am getting one or both) whenever I get nervous. I listened yesterday just for good measure.

[malya324]

OMG you guys! I go away for a few days and you have filled 5 pages. I'll have to get back to reading all your going thru. Hope all is well. My next u/s appt is on the the 8th of June, just starting to feel the little guy, so thats pretty cool, but I can only from the inside. How long till the DH can feel it?
My only issue is with Acid Reflux which I've had most of my life but now the meds don't seam to be working. Milk and pepsid help a little.
Tomorrow the Rents(from Michigan) and my Brother with neices (4 and 1 1/2)(from Israel) come for a week (sil - can't get off work.). Can't wait, lots to do before they get here but I'll be back soon.

[angelaezra]

Stephanie – I am so sorry that you are going through that stress. But, I am so happy that he finally realizes that he does need help. If he doesn’t want people that he sees daily knowing about his counseling then just honor his wishes and hopefully he will get the help he needs. Your DD sounds so darn cute and adorable!

When you were talking about your DH not wanting to read about the progress of the pregnancy, it reminds me of my DH. My DH was so very excited during my last pregnancy w/ Ashley that he read every book and always felt my stomach. I think it is his way of not getting too attached until he knows he/she will make it. He wants to go to every appointment and see the baby via u/s at every given chance but I can see him pulling back at times like when I ask him to read the developmental books with me. I know it is his way of dealing with our previous loss.

Gi – thanks for the info … I think I will be taken off the prednisone after 12 weeks, also. It’s funny that you said it’s a shame we can’t be knocked out and wake up when it is delivery time because I just said that very thing to my DH last night. He laughed and said “oh no” … lol! I said but I will be crazy by then and need a psych consult and he said “oh you will be ok”.

Babyluv – Yeah, most RE’s only have their patients take baby ASA until week 12 or so if they don’t have any clotting issues, so it is up to you if you would like to stop it now. Hopefully, the spotting will stop for you soon.

Claudia – 12 weeks … whoo hoo!

Dodo – Welcome – I hope you 2ww goes fast for you and you get your BFP.

Helene – I am glad that Jamie is doing well. I am wishing you good luck regarding the government job … and I am sure wishing you have a better week this week. By the way, I loved the belly picture!!

Oh, I definitely don’t think the problems you are having w/ your DH are all your fault. You are pregnant and have so much stress right now; he needs to be more considerate of you and thankful. You have been through a lot to make your family, so he needs to treat you like a queen! He needs to be more thoughtful of others, which it sounds like he isn’t. Sometimes, I find myself arguing w/ my DH about the same thing. He doesn’t do the same things that you stated but he can be selfish sometimes and I definitely let him know the world doesn’t revolve around him. Especially, during this pregnancy, I told him he is going to have to step up and do more housework around the house because I still can’t lift anything heavy and I’m exhausted all the time.

Katie – you are having an anatomy scan next week … that is so exciting! Yes, u/s are great but oh so scary for me. I hold my breath before every scan and sometimes it is hard for me to sleep the night before. Before I lost Ashley, I loved u/s but after we lost her they have been very frightening for me.

Yes, the spam is driving me crazy also. I think I reported every single post yesterday because it drove me absolutely crazy!!! So hopefully they will do something soon.

Karen – I hope you are doing well! The Yoga sounds interesting; maybe once I get more energy I can continue my daily walks around my neighborhood. Getting my DH to walk w/ me is like pulling teeth … lol.

Hazel – I am so praying for your dad. Hopefully, he is comfortable until they can decide what treatment direction that he will take soon. Please keep us updated!

Malya – I agree the acid reflux is horrible. I had such a problem before pregnancy and it has become so much worse during pregnancy. The Tums hardly provide any relief but I read somewhere that chewing gum after eating helps because of all of the salvia. So I tried it and it has worked somewhat for me. But, I know it will probably get worse as my pregnancy progresses but I am going to think positive.

AFM – I finally met my high risk OB group for the first time as their official patient today. I had another u/s today and the baby measured exactly the right size and the HB was 162. They want me to wean off of the Xanax as it is pregnancy category D at high doses. I am only taking 1mg everyday but I definitely do not want to harm my baby so I will start the wean today. My RE only put me on the Xanax because of the strong contractions following each ET. And his cocktail of medications worked very well so now it is time for me to wean off the medication. They also couldn’t believe the size of my ovaries. I told them I know they are huge because I felt them over the weekend. But, surprisingly my left ovary was bothering me more than my right ovary but it is smaller than the right. I guess it is going to take a few more months for both ovaries to reduce in size.

Angela

[dodo928]

hello ladies, thank you for the support and kind words! I cannot believe time flies. I cannot find many I know from the May cycle group. my beta will be 5/24! i had 2 embies transferred and 2 other embies made to freeze which made me less anxious. so happy to see a lot of you here! I cannot wait to join back this group.

i don't know why I don't receive any email notification but I will check back.

[Stephanieford78]

Angela - Glad to hear the appt went well. Of course I knew it would. What a great HB too! I am so happy that everything is prefect. As for Andrew not wanting to read the weekly development, I was surprised. He hasn't lost a baby before unless you want to could the embies that didn't make it before. I know he doesn't though. This is the first time we have been pregnant together and his first so I just assumed he would be more involved. He was all into it the first few weeks, rubbing my nonexistant belly and reading up on the develpment. Now that I have a big ole bump and the babies are doing something different every week, he doesn't seem to care as much. I am just confused. I am sure that Ashley is the reason your DH has pulled away this time. That is so sad. I hope that both of you will soon be enjoying this pregnnacy to the fullest.

Dodo - I hope to see you in here on 5/24 with awesome news!

Malya - I think they say you can feel baby move outside around 24 weeks or so. It all depends on the movement of course. If you have a soccer player in there, I am sure you will feel it ouside sooner rather than later. Sorry about the heartburn. I take tums and it helps with the light stuff. Sometimes I get it worse and there is just no hope. It does help a little if someone pounds on the middle of my back a bit though. Odd I know but it is the only thing that seems to do any good.

Babyluv - Google is our friend! lol I looked up all that stuff up too. Not to mention when Ktelise mentioned her doc told her to stop the asprin and her bleeding stopped so when my doc suggested it, I figured I would try. I didn't even ask RE. lol As for looking for both HB's on the doppler... do you ever get two different readings in two different areas? Do you know if they are side by side or one on top of the other? Last u/s mine were caddy cornered. lol One was lower left and the other upper right. RIght now I guess they can be anywhere they want. Based on how hard my belly is, it seems they prefer my right side. My left is not as firm as my right.

Hazel - I hope your father gets some news soon. Maybe the next time you check in you will have some news to share. As for the rings, I have a set of Andrew's dog tags and I might put the wedding ring on there and keep the others stored away until I can wear them again. As for the Army brats lol I can't be sure if they were really kicking my cervix or if it was some strange nerve spasm. I am sure I felt one or both of them last night for just a quick moment. It's been 11 years since I felt a baby in my belly but remembering that feeling really does all come back this time around. I think it helps you recognize it so much faster having known the feeling before. I just hope to feel it again and more often. I know I will but I am so impatient at times. lol Glad Zorba is doing well. Have your felt Zorba outside yet? Sometimes a bit of pressure like DH putting his head on your belly will entice Zorba to kick him in the head? lol

[Stephanieford78]

Hmmm... I just noticed that down under the text box that we reply to posts in is an Options box. Next to that is an Upload box. You can upload pics directly from your computer! No more having to use photobucket or other hosting sites unless you need them to edit the pics. lol YAY! This will save a lot of time.

[malya324]

Thats fantastic!

[hjw]

Morning girls, just stopping in for a quick update of the thread before I leave for my parents!

babyluv - hope stopping the aspirin stops the spotting straight away, as it did with Steph. Keep us posted!

malya - to answer your question from my own experience, I first felt Zorba as a tiny flutter on & off at between 17 & 18 weeks (mostly when I was laying on my stomach in bed at night), then as a stronger 'wiggle' on & off from 19 weeks onwards (again, most often in bed when I was on my stomach). DH felt him/her moving for the first time while we were on holiday at 21 weeks, so for me that's when the movements began to be strong enough to feel from the outside. But the baby has always measured big at every scan, so I don't know whether that means I felt everything a week or two earlier than the norm. But, even at 21 weeks, only the stronger movements could be felt from the outside, so sometimes I would feel a movement/kick, call DH over and by the time he put his hand on my stomach Zorba would have settled down again, or be making smaller movements which DH couldn't feel. When we were on holiday, he felt movement for the first time by chance as we were lying in bed one morning facing each other and the side of my stomach was resting on his hand. You'll get to realise that there's a pattern to when your baby moves about, for me it's mostly in the evening when I'm sitting on the sofa, overnight at about 3/4am (yay!) and first thing in the morning when I wake up. In the last week (so week 23 onwards), the movements have become a lot more powerful and once Zorba gets going, I feel him/her for a good 5-10 minutes at a time, so it's much easier to call DH over to feel it too.

In addition to the kicking, the other thing which started to happen around week 21 was that I could tell when the baby was turning around, because my stomach used to bulge with a hard tennis ball sized shape (which I assume was the head, or perhaps its bottom!) as it turned. And last night I was lying awake from 4.30am for an hour thanks to some kind of trampolining session going on in my stomach when I suddenly noticed that not only was the baby turning and I could feel the head on the right side of my stomach, but for the first time on the other side of my stomach there was a small hard lump which was presumably a foot pressing out at the same time. So it's constantly evolving - and all very exciting! p.s. I feel your pain on the acid reflux - Gaviscon doesn't do much for me other than turn my stomach with the taste, so milk is my friend, although that only takes a little of the edge off. Acupuncture helps a lot though, and dials it back so that it stays fairly mild. Have fun with the family!

angela - so happy that everything still looks great and on track, I was waiting to see your post before I left! When's your next appointment and u/s?

Steph - I'm sure that you'll start feeling the babies far earlier than me if you have two in there fighting for space! Perhaps once they start kicking properly and Andrew can feel them, he'll get more actively involved again. My DH is hugely excited about the baby but not great at voluntarily picking up a book and reading up. He likes coming to the scans and will put his hands on my stomach to feel Zorba kicking if I ask him if he wants to, but it takes me to wave a chapter of a book in front of his nose and say 'look, this is what the baby looks like now' for him to read up about anything. So maybe in part it's just a man thing? It'll be real enough for both of our DH's once they have to support us through labour and the babies arrive!!

Catch you all later in the week. Take care!
Hazel

[lycase]

Well I started this post yesterday but didn't get to finish it until now. So here we go sorry it's a little long.

steph - are you kidding. You look amazing... two bumps too funny.

Funny how my dh is such a great man with the kids and everyone all the time and with me he gets so sarcastic just like his mom. I really don't think he loves me anymore but he continues to be devoted to me and the kids. True he doesn't realise that I am NOT supposed to lift and really he doesn't care too much. But he is the one who is patient and kind when he talks but I don't see it for me?? Maybe eventually I will find the way to get us back loving and everything instead of being after each other And again I don't know what he does during the day that the boxes are not moving or being empty... I know he does laundry but he just keeps it in the basket it's not like he puts it away or anything and takes care of Jamie, who need one bottle every 4 hr and sleeps in the middle of feedings. He is really easy to care for, I did the basement yesterday and I had him and it was no trouble so ?? but I won't ask cause I know I am going to get the drama He is a good man... I just have a hard time feeling it Must be the hormones again

Steph I can't believe you felt your little ones... that is totally awesome... I guess it's cause they are 2. Imagine how close they must be to each other ... amazing.

So dh flipped... well you are very supportive and nice with him and it's nice to know he realises it... see you mean a lot to him and so does your DD... he is going to do great. Keep it up girl. I think we all could use some help at some point in our life, I sure could use some but when I tried they told me to read a book

and you are just too smart I never even noticed that upload button my oh my my life would have been easier if I had noticed that before... you smarty pants!!!

hjw - I hope your apt goes well and everything goes ok for you.

Yes I hope they do something for your dad cause it really doesn't sound like a serious problem... I mean it's not like cancer or anything? 80 is still very young and he should be around much longer unless he is in a lot of pain... I don't talk to my dad much but even then I am happy he is still around. Take care dear ok.

babyluv - I am also wondering about the baby aspirin, I just think with my age it's safer right? What did you find out? I am having a hard time to find my bb hb with the droppler do you use gel. I don't have any so I am using like liquid soap and stuff until I finally get some time to drive to the drugstore.

malya - your dh should be able to feel baby soon for sure. Keep on trying dear. Wow that picture you uploaded is cool Where were you? A museum or something?

angela - totally agree with you and last night I was so tired I said I am going to be and he said "me too" well too bad I took baby and went to bed at like 8pm and was great... just got up quickly a bit later for a bath and actually sleep ... I don't know how he can be so great with everyone except me. I mean he is great, he does a lot for me but it's just the love part that I kinda miss. Hopefully he will find it again one day

Oh angela - I am so glad you finally got your hrob apt... I am so happy to see your baby is doing great and a nice hight (girl) hb wow weaning off something must feel great we are always on too many things anyways way to go girl. I didn't know your ovaries were giving you pain dear. So sorry it's taking so long for them to get back to size...

dodo - good luck on the 24 for your beta. Will you POAS before hand? And as for the mail notification it stops sometimes for me too so I am sure as soon as you reply like you did you will get it again.

AFM - Well when we got home last night the entrance way was finally cleared. I was really realieved. Strangly is my dh ONLY had ONE hour free to do it yesterday due to baby's and DS doc apts. So he CAN do a lot if he WANTS to I know he does a lot but the focus yesterday was great even the kitchen was much more livable.

Tomorrow is the final signatures for the house sell. I can't believe it too 3 months for it to be finalized... at anytime we wanted to give up. We were afraid to wake up and the house is not ours anymore... I am trying to avoid going to Montreal (2hrs away) with the whole family and I hope it works.. that would be a drag.

It my dh and I, DD birthday tomorrow she is very exited but we have nothing ready for that because of everything so we told her we will be doing it this weekend. I will just get a cake at least and one gift which I already got a while back so it's a good start.

Yesterday I almost quit my job again. My agency didn't want to give me the proper letter I needed stating I work for them and so I would I have lost my daycare so I gave her my 2w notice and then my boss here said that's stupid I will write you that letter. So the agency felt bad and decided to finally give me what I needed. So I am still here... What a nonsense...

Good thing baby is doing great. Everything is gone with the exception of a couple of scabs. I sure hope they are gone for SAturday cause it's his Baptism Official pictures. I don't even know what we will all wear still. I need to go shopping but no time?? Good thing my teen has her dress already.

So that's it for me sorry for the lenthy post again. I hope everyone have a good day. Tomorrow is my IPS scan (NT Scan) so very anxious to see if everything is ok this time with NO Downs...

Helene

[Arabsrcool]

Steph,

Glad to hear your DH is going to go get some help. Sounds like things got pretty stressful at your house and you are right to say you and your DD do not need to be treated that way. I am with you on the Nips being so sore. I never had that with my other pregnancies, but boy are they enlarged and tender now! OWW-CHI-MOMMA!

dodo,

welcome and glad to hear you finally got the the dreaded 2ww!

Helene,

any news on Fifth's Disease results? Sorry to hear your DH is being a butthead. It is not YOUR fault. He needs to grow up!

Claud,

Love your bump!

afm, not much going on with me. Have another doc appt on Thursday, hoping for an u/s, but doubt I get one! Dealing with changing insurance mid-year. What a pain, I am sure I am going to end up paying my deductible on the old insurance, and then have to pay the deductible on the new insurance too! UGGHHH I hate Insurance!

Ronda

[malya324]

Helene - We live in Las Vegas, we were at a casino.

[lycase]

Helene - We live in Las Vegas, we were at a casino.

Oh very cool

Helene

[lycase]

Helene,
any news on Fifth's Disease results? Sorry to hear your DH is being a butthead. It is not YOUR fault. He needs to grow up!

Can you believe they said I won't get the results until 5 to 10 days cause it has to go to the Ontario Health services?? Everyone would be dead by then if it were so contagius. Good thing noone else got it except DD strange hey? So I guess it's ok??

Helene