Winter Cycle Friends 2009/2010 - Everyone Welcome!

[katie99]

Steph - Sorry that I must have missed your post about the missed appt. UGH! Just when you get him to go and now this! I sure do remember that the Army loses a lot of paperwork, but somehoqw that its usually the ones you actually dont want them to lose. I'll keep fingers crossed that his write up gets lost in the shuffle. Try to not get too wound up over it. And get that boy some gum, you cant be smelling like cigarettes with twins on the way - xoxo

[babyluv]

Helene - I agree with the others, I think you should have DD in the pic. My two oldest brothers both ended up in jail for one thing or another when they were around 17, and now both (42 & 41) are just awesome. Sometimes kids just need to grow up, though I can't imagine how difficult it is as a mom to deal with. GL. Also, I do use gel with my doppler. I got it online. Sometimes, if it gets too thin, I have a hard time getting a reading. I've heard KY Jelly works really well also.

Hazel - Oh my goodness, I am so, so sorry things don't seem to be looking up for your dad. Definitely praying for your family.

Steph - Wow, that is just WRONG that they would write him up and then not give him another appt for 10 days! I love that our military is so disciplined, but if someone needs help, they aren't always the best at helping. Hope he doesn't get in trouble for doing the right thing.

Angela - So happy to hear your spotting is going down. It could have also been irritation in your cervix from your recent u/s (didn't you say it was Monday?). At any rate, it's always so scary and I am glad you are feeling a little better. Keep us posted as always!

Natakia - Oh, I know the feeling friend! I just had an ER visit 2 1/2 weeks ago due to a lot of bleeding. SOOO scary! I'm glad your bean is doing well, and pray she continues to do well (wow, I accidentally wrote she...maybe that's a sign!)

Katie - SHOP SHOP SHOP!!! SO fun! I am going Saturday morning with two of my friends to a huge Mothers of Multiples consignment sale. My BFF has two boys, close in age to my kids, and is about to start trying for a third. The other has a 1 year old via IVF, and at the moment is just trying naturally for a second. We were laughing because most of us want all new w/tags, in the box stuff for our first, but once that second rolls around...lol. I'm looking for swings, bouncers, stuff like that in really good condition. Hopefully I find something!

AFM - So I am on day 3 of no baby aspirin with no slow down in spotting in sight. BLAH! I was really hoping, but I've also only known about the SCH for 2 1/2 weeks, so I probably have at least 2 more to go before it's gone. My next u/s is 6/7, so I hope it's gone by then. I'll be 15 weeks then, so I am also hoping for a good guess on the genders!

On the upside, I was able to find BOTH heart beats today on my doppler! The last couple of times I have felt like there was one behind the other, but still one reading. Today they were almost 2 inches apart and separate readings. Yay! I guess that means they are getting bigger and spreading out. They seem to be next to each other still, one of my left and the other in the middle, but I know they move because I pick up readings on my right a lot. At any rate, it was so nice to finally hear both.

[Stephanieford78]

Helene - When you are a soldier a missed appt is a big deal and it can hurt his career. Yes, just one!! I think it is stupid, I think there should be a pattern, like 3 missed appts before trying to screw up a person. They could give him extra duty, take money away or even demote him fr it. Some extreme cases a soldier gets kicked out. You always have to be accounted for and therefore missing an appt is serious to the Army. You have to realize that my DH is government property before he is my husband. Not how it should be, but that is how it is. The life of an Amry wife. All I can do is hope that the paperwork gets lost or they see that it was a simple mishap and fogive him and throw the paperwork out on their own. Afterall, he was given a time after just talking to three different people about all the horrible things he has been through. I hope they will understand he simply got the times wrong. Everyone is intilted to one mistake.

Katie - I am sure you remember the military life. Not an easy one when issues like this come up! I am upset that he is smoking and trying to hide it. Even if he chews gum I can still smell it all over him. He tries to deny it but I just tell him I'm not stupid and if he can lie to me about something like this, what else can he lie about? It is just upsetting because he brags about how he quit 3 years ago cold turkey because when he came back from deployment #2 he asked DD what she wanted for her borthday. She said, You! He replied, But I am home now. She said... no Daddy, you smoke and that can kill you too. Sooo... he quit for her birthday. Cute story, but lately he has been smoking and hiding it or trying to. Just another way that he is breaking her little heart and it upsets me. Not to mention how worried I am about 3rd hand smoke. They say the baby breathing it in from your clothes when you are holding them can hurt them!! UGH! Anyway, the crib isn't here yet. We just ordered one. We can't afford to buy them both at once. lol I am glad you are starting to look at baby stuff. It can be overwhelming especially if you have to start from nothing. That is where we are and why we started early. How are your non-symptoms? I have been hit with that in the past few days. Spite the headaches and stuffy nose of course. Other then that I don't feel pregnant, not that those symptoms are usual pg symptoms so that doesn't help. I have just started to have a little annoying pain in the center of my uterus. It's like... seriously?? Why does it have to be painful?? Just something else to worry me. I keep laying down to feel my bump like it might have disappeared... I know that isn't possible but I do it anyway. I can feel it standing up but not as well as laying down because of my belly fat. So you are going to paint the deck?? Maybe DH seeing you get out there will make him get up and take over so you can relax!! We just need to get rid of an extra couch and chair with ottoman. It just takes up two much room and I know we will need the room the chair is taking up for the glider and ottoman. Then the couch area will be replaced with bassinets and toys and swings etc. Two of everytihng... UGH! In the end it will be so worth it though. I can't wait to find out boys or girls... as soon as I do my dad's wife will start sending us money!! lol Not sure why she has to wait, there are so many non gender things we need!!! Ok... done with my book, for now. lol

Babyluv - Yeah the Army is great as discipline but not good on helping soldiers out medically, whether it be physical or mental. So many get treated for the wrong things or not treated at all when any other doc would have seen the issue! Andrew went 5 years with back pain before they finally gave him an MRI and found out he has osteoarthritis and buldging dics... xrays never caught it but they didn't care to call for an MRI the whole 5 years. When it comes to mental problems, they send these soldiers to war multiple times and then when they come back with issues, they kick them out. I think it's horrible! They deserve better treatment then that... the Army screwed them up, the Army should fix them! Granted PTSD gives a person 50% disability from VA benefits, but 50% won't pay our bills. As for you.. I am sorry the spotting hasn't slowed. Maybe after a few more days? Then again, it may just have to run it's course. They say SCH's normally bleed for 4 weeks or so. Mine was 5 so maybe. I just hope that for your peace of mind it goes away soon. Do you think you will start taking the asprin again since it didn't seem to make a difference or stay off? Thats awesome you got to hear both heartbeats!! They are definately getting bigger, that's probably a big reason why it was easier to catch.

[lycase]

babyluv - you are all right. I will try and live with DD and her sillyness... I guess it's kinda normal these days and ages??

Ok so I will try and find that gel... I hope the drug store carries it.

That is pretty exiting that you can find both hb... your drippler is great. I can't wait to try it with the kids Also can't wait on your u/s

steph - how do you do it?? I could never live to realize that my DH is government property before he is my husband!!! You are a very strong lady and your dh really needs you although the army don't think so. You are his life savior and although they think nothing more of him, we all know it's not a fact I mean in your life and heart. One time I though of joining the army and my dh told me I could never cut it and I am sure he was right I am very impressed at how amazing and loyal you are... don't ever give up on him he really needs you and the way you think about things.

Hugs to you all

Helene

[angelaezra]

Hazel – Yes, I think the best thing for the doctors’ to do right now would be to biopsy it because they do not have an idea of what kind of cancer it is or if it’s benign. I am glad that he is having some pain relief though. Please keep us updated as you are able to.

Natakia – Welcome … I am so sorry you are going through the same thing I am right now but at least you have your results and it sounds like very good news. I am so happy for you! Tell your DH that is ok for him to have doubts here and there, we are only human.

Claudia – I am so happy that your test turned out fine as I knew it would. Don’t you hate it when they scare you death for no reason??

Stephanie – I am sorry about the appointment for your DH but it is not your fault. You are only doing what you feel is right for your family. No one can fault you for that!!! Also, it’s not your fault he mixed up his appointment time. It happens, we are human. He can get through this … he just has to realize it. I am sure he isn’t the only one to forget an appointment time.

I am just wondering if your DH has concerns about having the twins. What I mean is, some first time fathers are scared they will not be good at it or will fail. I know he has your DD but you said the twins are his first biological children. And, all of the things he is doing sound like he is trying to deal w/ some sort of stress or something that has him worried. Just a thought!

Katie – that is so exciting … you are getting things ready for the baby! It can be overwhelming though right?

Helene – I agree w/ Stephanie. You should just take the picture. Most teenagers do things to get a reaction out of you so just let her know you are unhappy and leave it at that.

Babyluv – I wish I could blame the spotting on the u/s but it was an abdominal u/s instead of a vaginal one. Sorry the bleeding hasn’t eased up for you but if you have SCH, it might take a little longer to resolve on its own. That is great news about hearing both HB’s!!!

AFM – Well, I spoke w/ my RE’s nurse yesterday and we talked about trying to reduce the Xanax to only .75mgs from 1 mgs by cutting my nightly dose in half. So I tried it for the first time last night and when I woke up this morning, I had no spotting so I thought great I am doing well so far. So I went off to work. About 2pm I went to the bathroom and guess what I saw … yes more spotting, this time a little lighter in color than the first time. So now I’m convinced it is too soon to reduce my dose no matter what my high risk OB says. I have discussed it with my DH and we decided I would stay on my original dose until I hit 12 weeks because by then all of the major organs are formed and the placenta is functioning properly. When I talked w/ my RE’s nurse, she agreed and said that I am the only patient that has tried to wean off of the Xanax early (prior to 12 weeks). My uterus is just so sensitive; it will not tolerate me reducing my dose of Xanax. I will just have to keep monitoring it and call my RE if anything changes or go to the ER if I feel it’s necessary. I think I will also take the day off from work tomorrow as I think I have been too busy and stressed out this week. So, I probably won’t go back to work until after my u/s on Monday. Ladies, why oh why do even our pregnancies have to be so stressful? It was so stressful to even get pregnant and now the stress and worry continue …

Angela

[lycase]

Thanks Angela.

So dear... it's very good that you are finding out what works and doesn't ... it is scary but you are being smart and your baby will be ok just because of how you watch... I think you took the right decision and yes changing anything before the 12w period is risky for some specially you I guess. What does that medecin does for you?? Wow it's amazing how something like that can help you keep your baby? Good for you and keep up the good work.

Helene

[hjw]

Evening all...

Steph - to answer your question, I first felt Zorba as a little flutter at between 17 & 18 weeks. From 19 weeks I was feeling slight wiggles pretty much every day, but only mostly in the evenings when I sat down to watch a bit of TV. From 20/21 weeks it really started to kick off properly (no pun intended!) with bursts of activity every time I ate (sugar rush for the baby, I think!) and whenever I settled down quietly on a chair or in bed. I'm sure you're feeling things a lot earlier than me because there are two lively ones in there, rather than one, but if you follow the same pattern as me then you'll be feeling something every day (although not all the time during the day) in a week or two. Oh honey, I'm really sorry that you have this stress of the possible consequences of Andrew missing his appointment. It seems so unfair that a simple misunderstanding could result in disciplinary action, hopefully it won't.

Natakia - we've had so many woman on this thread who've been through bleeding of some form or another. As others have said, it seems to be so common in IVF pregnancies. Not that you will worry any less, I know. Hugs to you.

claudia - so happy that you got the all clear about the antibodies, now go and have some fun at your sister's graduation!

katie - oh no, another one itching? You poor thing. OMG, you've been looking at the things we all need to buy? I really need to get on and do that soon, although things with Dad seem to be taking up most of my time at the moment. My acupuncture lady this morning referred to me heading into the third trimester about now, and I was like 'whoa..., how did we get there so fast?'. I really don't think I've still got my head around the fact that there's going to be a little baby coming out of my stomach in under 16 weeks - I can't believe that I'm almost 2/3rds of the way through now. So I really need to think about a nursery and buying some stuff I guess!

babyluv - yippee for finding both heartbeats with the Dopplar. Isn't it incredible when you get to listen to the little heartbeat galloping away in the peace and quiet of your own home? Have fun at the sale on Saturday!

Angela - I totally agree with your decision to stay on the Xanax. Sorry for the extra spell of spotting today, but on the bright side you really are certain now that it's Xanax related and not anything else. A day off work will do you good as well, just put your feet up and treat yourself!

Right, I'm finishing with a couple of beach ball photos coming up, as I keep promising to Claudia! The first one is DH and I, taken at the family wedding on Sunday. The second one gives a better idea of how big the beach ball is getting now, and was taken tonight (sorry for the rubbish quality, I struggled to get the angle right!). I'm still wearing my normal pre-pregnancy clothes on my top half (or at least, the ones which weren't fitted to start with) but as you can see, it's getting to be a bit of a squash!

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Take care,
Hazel

[TammyS]

Hi Girls,
Just thought I'd pop on to give you all a quick update on me. Just so you know...I have been reading and praying and rooting you all on almost everyday...I just havent felt like posting lately. The miscarriage is kinda hitting me harder now that the shock has worn off.

As most of you probably know and remember....that we had a long time ago decided that we were not going back for another fresh cycle...we only had 3 frozen embryos from when I was 39 left...and we used them all on the last cycle.

But, we are trying right now for a natural miracle with using progesterone suppositories for lining/luteal support right now (we think that is one of our many issues). We just couldnt give up after all. They say that once your body has been pregnant and also right after a miscarriage that you are more fertile...so we shall see if it helps us get pregnant at all. I used ovualtion strips and checked my CM to see when I ovulated and it was either Sunday night or Monday morning....so I at least ovulated, too. I am pretty sure that I dont always ovulate either. I am hoping to check and get a positive hpt while on vacation the night of our Anniversary on the 26th (yes, we are going back to Myrtle Beach for another quick trip....since we got such a great rate for both trips, plane tickets were $10 each way). I will be 11dpo...so could be too early...though I got a positive at 11dpo last time...so maybe. 3 IUI's did not work...so I have no idea why I think this will work...yet for some strange reason...I am really hopeful. Maybe cause I did get pregnant with both IVF's, I dont know.

Anyhow, trying naturally gives me something to be hopeful about and to pass the time...this month and next...cause the earliest IVF we can do will be transfer at the end of July, due to the miscarriage. Yet, cause it was so early and ended up being much like a normal period...that is why the doc gave us the green light to try again, now. I cant believe that we are actually considering doing this again. My embryos with Zach and the frozen ones were from when I was 39...we are scared to death to try again at 42. I will be 42 on May 30th. Our chances of Down Syndrome or something else going wrong are much much higher now. Yet, we just cant give up now. Not yet.

~Tammy

[lycase]

hjw - wow you guys look great and at 23wpg the look is amazing for you

Tammy - yes Downs is a big risk at our age now but look at my sister she got a heathy baby at 45 but of course after loosing 6 in mc. She gets pg every month that girl!!!

Me too I was debating to try on my own or do another DE cycle well I figured if they didn't get me pg with a DEgg cycle I better try on my own cause what tells me they will succeed the second time after $20,000?? So we did get pg on clomid but of course you know the outcome he has Downs. At times I would think I should not have tried on my own I knew the risks but when I look at my little guy I am much more happy to have him then not... He fills up my days with smiles and what else can you ask for. So I would say go ahead and try and have fun and I am sure if you get pg your baby will be healthy... It doesn't happen to everyone you know. Hugs.

AFM - Well last night after my DD told me about her piercing I figured I might as well go and order at least her pictures from the Walmart shoot so I at least get those... and once the lady there saw my name she said she could NOT serve me and that I had to deal with Terri, which she called and so she talked to me on the phone and again giving me crap, making me cry and accusing me of stuff that are false... So I just dropped the phone on the counter. I can't deal with that anymore. So I email the Districk Manager again this morning to see how I could get my pictures without having to deal with this bi***.

My dh told me his son will NOT come to the pictures next week. He said he will come this weekend cause it's the baptism pictures but not next week for the reshoot??? I also tried to convince him and he kept telling me he can't miss going to his mom's 2 weeks in a row? I mean that the heck he comestimes is 2 months without going? He says they might go to the cottage so will be gone all weekend? So he brushed me off saying he will go after I told her Caitlind took the day off of work to be there... But I don't think he will. So if he doesn't come we can't go... So I am lost again... Everyone hate me cause of this... I mean my daughter was in japan when we took the Christmas photos I had to redo them... then the manager is a bit... so I have to reshoot and now he won't come. Even my dh and my dd hate me for this... I don't have any pictures of all of us together other then 4 years ago and I know the teens will NOT come after those but I needed at least those ones to finish it all?? boy oh boy why don't I just kill myself. My dh doesn't love me and keeps telling me I need help, I raise my voice at the kids cause after 3 times they don't listen still and dh doesn't raise his voice but says "can you tell them they don't listen" so then I am the mean one in the house, my dd hates me and my mom calls me to give crap to my dh on her behalf... my oh my!!! The only one who loves me is my baby, he loves me no matter what and gives me these big smiles oh it's to dye for

Helene

[Stephanieford78]

Helene - I understand you are under a lot of stress and the hormones of being pg, but I think you might have to slow down and possibly confide in a doctor about your issues. You seem depressed a lot in regards to your family and nw you mention killing yourself. I am sure you are in a lot of pain, but maybe talking to a doctor will help. Maybe you can even convince dh to go to marriage counceling? Maybe even join a parenting class? Even if he refused, you can go and maybe learn a few things. We all could use a little help at times. We aren't born with instruction manuals to deal with every situation and kids and husbands definately don't come with instructions to deal with every mood or situation they go through. You can even talk to your OB about your depression symptoms and he/she can prescribe something to help you cope. See if that helps at first, if not then look into other options to help your family, like what I mentioned above.

As for how I do it... as in being an Army wife. Well, for love! When you fall in love there are always complications and obsticles. For some it might be money, others it be the opinions of others in a interacial couple or same sex couple. For me it is simply him being a soldier. Some people have to deal with their men being gone due to business, this is not much different. I just have to deal with him being gone on average every other year. Now the way the military works and their treatment and punishments. Not much I can do but adjust. We all adjust to different things in our lives. We complain here and there or maybe even a lot, but in the end we have what we are fighting so hard for... our man and our children! I am sure I can look at your life and ask you how you do it.

Tammy - So nice to see you stop in. I am sure you will continue to mourn your angel for a long time to come. I am glad that you haven't completely given up. Trying again naturally can work and I hope it does! If not, I'm sure you know of your other options, from other cycle to surrogacy to donor embies. Then again, you do have one miracle baby to watch grow up right in front of your eyes.

Hazel - I think I felt more today. Sometimes I ask myself if it really is movement. I know what movement feels like but part of me says... well maybe not? I guess it is part of our doubtful nature and constant worrying. Today was a few small flutters so I am pretty sure it was one or both of them this time, more so then before. I thought I might have felt something after eating yesterday but then thought... I just ate, could be the food. lol As for Andrew, I am sure they will forgive him for just one missed appt. After they look at his record, he is a highly decorated soldier for his rank, been deployed for 4 years and never missed an appt before. Only thing to do is cross our fingers and hope it will be thrown out and no action will be taken. Now to you... that beach ball is so darn cute! You can get away with wearing tight tops since your figure compliments it. While you have a cute beach ball, I feel like a beached whale!

Angela - Not sure if Andrew is really concerned about having twins. Twins is what he always wanted. I don't think he understands exactly how hard it is. He has never been around a newborn baby 24/7. Only to see, maybe hold and hand back. He did help take care f his cousins kids when we was younger, but by younger I mean he was like 12 and they were young toddlers. All he really did then was play with them and change some diapers while his mom did the rest. I think he is becoming a bit detached, but not sure if it is a symptom f his PTSD or not. I pointed out to him that I didn't try to hand him the weekly development update in two weeks. He simply said.. Yeah. I had the 16 week update on the computer and he didn't offer to read it, while DD did. She was amazed at what she read and was asking a few questions. It was cute. Still... no responce from him. I don't get it! I had to experience being a single mother while married before because my ex wouldn't do anything to care for a baby. If I have to do that again... well, I can't do that again, especially with twins! I just hope he turns around and by the time they get here he will be the good, attentive, devoted dad I know he can be. I know he doesn't like to fail, like you said. He hasn't mentioned any concerns about becoming a bio dad. Maybe I will ask.

[lycase]

Steph - thanks that really means a lot to me. Funny how one little (or long) comment over the phone can reck someone's day. I mean I am happy most of the time. Always exited about life and the fun we can have specially with the kids. One very good thing going on right now is being just across from the park (other then the little ones wanting to go on their own) makes my dh go with them to play outside every day... I am so happy about that. Before it was me taking the kids and trying to find fun parks etc. And now we just go outside the door and we are there. We go everyday and the kids can't wait to get home and play... My baby loves his strole rides and the sounds and colors all around. The temperature this week has been fantastic for that and it's great.

So I think maybe it's the hormones for sure... I rarely get depressed and when I did try to go for help one said all you need is read this book.. and the other said you don't need my services you are doing fine. So ??

the house is finally sold we will get our money next Tuesday or Wednesday and that is great news also.

My baby is doing great, not sick or anything. My RE just called saying that the IPS (NT) Scan results are fantastic and no chance of having another Downs Syndrome little one and he is very pleased with all the results.

Finally my kids (at home) all love me... they tell me everyday and we do have fun together... I guess one thing I am missing is friends to talk to at home... just no time to make friends really!!! So when I get the house done maybe if I start scrapbooking again I will get my only friend to come over and we can enjoy each other's company. She is the one who comes to the USA with me for transfers etc. She is so cool.

so sorry for talking and talking girls I really needed to vent I guess.

Sorry for the downer...

Helene

[angelaezra]

Hazel – you and your DH look wonderful at the wedding!! You guys are a great looking couple!

Tammy – I saw and responded to your post on the other forum. I just have to say once again how happy I am that you and your DH have a plan. I am wishing you all the luck in the world!

Helene – My friend, you are going through so much and have so much on your plate at all times, you can’t help but to be overwhelmed. I know the pictures are so very important to you but you are pregnant, working, taking care of your kids, moving into a new house, and trying to have a meaningful relationship w/ your DH, maybe you hold off regarding the pictures for a while. Remember, you are only human and can only take so much. Please try to take some of the stress off of your plate. It is not healthy for you or your baby you are carrying. We care about you and only want the best for you, so please take steps to help yourself, ok?

Stephanie – I remember you saying that he wanted twins but remember now it is actual reality and you are showing so it may seem more real to him.

I know it’s hard for you right now but hopefully once your DH is holding his babies in his arms he becomes so attached that he wants to be involved in every part of their lives. You seem like such a smart & strong woman that you will keep him in line when he needs it.

Natakia, Claudia, Katie, & babyluv – I hope you ladies are all doing well.

AFM – Last night I went back to my original dose of medication and now my body has to get used to it again. I am so sleepy today that I can barely keep my eyes open. When I woke up this morning, I had a little cramping but no spotting so I decided to do a half day at work. But, when I came home I only saw just a little spotting and it is still dark. So I have my feet up and I am trying to relax now. I am so anxious for my Monday appointment for my u/s and BW. I just hope and pray we will get good news!

Angela

[lycase]

Helene – My friend, you are going through so much and have so much on your plate at all times, you can’t help but to be overwhelmed. I know the pictures are so very important to you but you are pregnant, working, taking care of your kids, moving into a new house, and trying to have a meaningful relationship w/ your DH, maybe you hold off regarding the pictures for a while. Remember, you are only human and can only take so much. Please try to take some of the stress off of your plate. It is not healthy for you or your baby you are carrying. We care about you and only want the best for you, so please take steps to help yourself, ok?

AFM – Last night I went back to my original dose of medication and now my body has to get used to it again. I am so sleepy today that I can barely keep my eyes open. When I woke up this morning, I had a little cramping but no spotting so I decided to do a half day at work. But, when I came home I only saw just a little spotting and it is still dark. So I have my feet up and I am trying to relax now. I am so anxious for my Monday appointment for my u/s and BW. I just hope and pray we will get good news!

Angela

Can't wait until you U/S also... you are doing great in the mean time.

As for the pictures the problem are as follow:

- I already did all small kids individuals (posted on the wall)
- I could not do the big kids cause Caitlind was in Japan.
- Caitlind took a day OFF work to be there just to accomodate me
- Dh's son doesn't care about going to his mom's half the time
- Baby's outfit will NOT fit him anymore if we don't do them soon.
- the lady at Walmart still refuses to let me have my pictures
but even if she did the family shot I didn't like because some of us look straight, some down and some up. We didn't know where to looks so that was NOT good, another reason to reshoot if I am going to inlarge this like 25x25 on my wall
- that is not mentionning the money I spent on everyone's outfit to be a match... probably close to $600 dollars.

so I could get the big kids pictures from Walmart and the baby's they were great that's why I went last night again and I wrote to the Districk Manager this morning but everyone still has to do the group photo again cause they only picked one out of the ones we shot and it's not a good one. I hate myself on it and we look all over the place...

My goal is to have the large one and then all kids individually seperately...

I think the fact that I have a BA in Photography doesn't help I mean I love photo so that already bugs people I shoot all the time. And I still want to take advance classes so I could do my OWN photos that is another thing I will eventually do...

Funny my adopted sister and our father are all in love with photography. That is another way we know we are related... I love it.

But thanks for your though... after I am done with those... just a little more work then I will be done and I don't ever have to bother the big kids or dh again

Please make this work dear Lord... Amen

[gi]

Evening girls,

natakia Welcome!!! Sorry to hear you had a nasty scare...how terrifying. I am so delighted to hear all is well with the baby, we have a lot of girls hear with similiar scary stories i never realised bleeding in pregnancy was that common!!

Katie isnt the itcing annoying!!!! Thankfully mine is subsiding since i changed all my cleansing and moisturizing products plus every night i put loads of sudocream on my whole body and its a great relief now i have very dry skin which is unsual for me as usually its very oily but as long as i knew it was normal i didnt mind! I cant wait to look at furniture too maybe after next scan when ever that is!!

Helene havent a clue when my next appt is hopefully will get word soon. Sorry to hear your family life is a bit tough at the moment but i suppose when you have a few children its hard to get them all to cooperate esp teenagers. Dont be worrying about dds piercing sure we all did it, its all normal my mam was all for me getting piercings and tattoos ( i have 3) she said her mam never allowed her so she would never stop me in fact she encouraged me and when she turned 40 i bought her her 1st tattoo and she got another at 41! She never commented on my clothes no matter how short or tight its all just part of been a teenager ...though i still have a few short skirks hanging around ha ha. Try to relax and let things go with the flow, not everything will go according to plan so you need to just not get too upset about it, all your family love you again remember teenagers arent supposed to say it out loud , is there any possible way you and dh could go out for a meal alone and just spend time together it cant be easy having a new baby and one on the way plus the rest of your kids. Congrats on finally signing over the house!!! Now if you can just get the rest of those boxes unpacked and finally return to some normality!

Angela i am glad to hear everything is ok now if the darn spotting will stop!! You are right to stay on the meds till 12 wks, even though i was on diff. meds than you i was still on all of them till 12 wks and progesterone till 16 like you asprin for most of pregnancy. Take it easy if you can.

Steph i hope they dont put a black mark against your dh for missing 1 appt!!! I am sure he will be fine when the babies are here but he does need some help, i reckon talking about it will give him nightmares but he needs to face up to what he has been thro. only then can he start to recover for your sake and the babies i hope he does xxx

babyluv how cool to hear both heartbeats!!! It must be such a relief.

Tammy i am so glad to hear you have not given up and maybe you will get your miracle this month!!! I know it tough at the moment but keep focused and keep believing you will get your little baby.

Hazel i am glad your dad is comfortable now he has a wonderful attitude to life. My dad got news yesterday that his brother who lives in Australia was diagnosed with bowel cancer,they dont know how far its gone its scary stuff. Also jasons aunt is battling ovarian cancer and cancer of the lining of the stomach she seemed to be in remission but a scan recently showed something on her lungs, the docs. were convinced it was cancerous but further tests reveiled so far its not but they still dont know what it is. It must be diff. for you traveling esp now in 3rd tri your dad must be so proud, i really hope he gets a miracle.

Claud thank goodness your tests were fine!!! You must be so relieved.

AFM went to a staff meeting in work yesterday (even though i am still on sick leave) to discuss changes in work, our dental practices in Ireland have had major cuts in the health system so our business is down about 70%!! I work mainly in reception and only nurse 1 day a wk, but at the meeting yesterday found my job is gone and the only option is for me to nurse full time about 8 - 12 hr days on feet plus checking patients in and out and answering phones, now there is 4 flights of stairs and it means going up and down about 30 times a day. There is no way i could do that work, sure i used to it the odd time when one of the girls were out sick and it was a killer!!! I wont put my baby at risk so it looks like i wont be returning to work till after maternity leave - May 2011. I have to go to the doctor next wk to see if he will sign me off. Financially it will be tougher but whats more important, jason didnt want me to go back to work anyway too terrified something will happen (last m/c started in work). Been out on sick leave doesnt affect my maternity benefits which is great news so it looks like i will be a lady of leisure till my little miracle arrives!!!

Have a great weekend everyone, the weather in Ireland has finally changed and we are going to have our 1st bbq tomorrow, jason bought me a beautiful garden swing so me and the bump are spending the days lolling in the sun reading

gi xxx

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Gi you are just too funny. You and your mom sounds so much fun My DD would love having you around So cool your mom got her first tattoo at 40!! my oh my excellent.

Sorry to hear about your job issues but you know a lot can happen from now until next year so hey econimy could get back up or anything... so it's great you are off now until bb arrives and then mat leave... you are planning that so nicely. Way to go girl. Our babies are all that matters now right!!! If only I could remember that ... but not feeling that bean makes me forget at times

Helene