May cycle buddies :)

[PA_FA]

Rio- I DEFINITELY understand the work girl! I was working with a girl a few weeks ago who was 4 1/2 mos pregnant after getting pregnant on BCP. She told me that I should get the book "Pregnancy Sucks". She also said she never wanted this baby. We chatted for a bit about how different my situation was from hers and the only thing we had in common was that we were both pregnant. I had to lock myself in the bathroom to keep from slapping her. Good thing DH was with me so I could vent! LOL

[Tess69]

Hi all

Beta was 1512 today. Crawling up from 1163 on Friday. Nurse doesn't think the weany bean is ectopic as my progesterone levels are still normal so I assume that I am probably heading towards miscarriage. I've got my scan on Friday so hopefully we'll be able to see something. I have another bloodtest on Monday but really hope that the u/s on Fri will shed some light.

No personals from me today. I'm off for an early night

Take care everybody and will catch up again soon.

[PA_FA]

OH Tess I'm so sorry for the roller coaster ride you are going through. I pray that your little bean gets through this ok. Big hugs that everything will turn out ok for you.

[BabyRN]

Hi Everyone!! Sorry I have been MIA. I actually posted last week after my us, but I guess it didn't go through Or maybe I just thought I pressed "post reply"...I am majorly brain dead lately!

To my US buddies...Kamaile - I'm so glad to hear everything went well at you US, congrats!! how are you feeling?

PA_FA - How scary! I am so glad to hear everything is OK. Try to take it easy...especially in the worrying department. And you definatley aren't overreacting about pregnant moms being unappreciative. I am an L&D nurse and almost every week have to take care of patients who don't want or deserve to have the babies that I have to send them home with It's really not fair, and you're right...no one understands what we have to go through just to have an opportunity to have a family. Thank goodness for this site.

Rio-Girl- I am hoping for low numbers for you, so that you will be able to start a new cycle soon. And thanks for cheat advice...I didn't realize you could scroll through the recent posts while you are replying.

AFM- I had my OB do an US at work on wednesday the 18th...I just couldn't wait until Friday. You can't blame me...I mean I work in Labor & Delivery, and the Ultrasound machine is just staring me in the face all day! We saw one perfect little bean...heartbeat and all Then I got to see it again on Friday with my RE...of course I didn't tell her that I already peeked. My next US is this Friday the 2nd...grow baby, grow!

[Kamaile]

Tess- im so sorry you are going thru this...ill pray for your little bean! stay positive!

Baby RN- i was wondering where you went lol, glad to hear everything is ok! yes i dont blame you for getting an earlier 'secret' u/s.....i did it too LOL....too much of this waiting and wondering actually causes me more stress than anything so i had to do it for my own good!

Hope everyone else is doing good and hanging in there!

AFM- been 'released' to my OB (not really released as my OB is my RE too...same person, different office lol) and go for my next check up and ultrasound on thursday....hopefully my bean is doing fine and growing and all....some days i dont even feel pregnant and that worries me....anyone else feel that way??

[kitty_mom]

Hi everyone
just back from my first u/s and I'm in shock! TWINS!!!!! Two perfect little beans with strong heart beats 119 and 122. Measuring 6 weeks 4 days. I guess you can't tell anything by betas!

I'll write more later I'm in shock a little, but in a super good way!

[riogirl71]

Kitty - double wow that is great news! Congratulations!!!

Kamaile - congrats on your graduation!

Baby RN - oh you are so lucky! But then again having those US machines stare at you all day how can you resist? Congratulations! I imagin how hard it must be to work there and probably hear some stories about how ungrateful women are about their babies! Can you slap them? Hold off on pain meds? Put the needle in a little too hard? hehehe just kidding!

Tess - I am so sorry sweetie, you might be able to see something in US but the numbers might be too low to see anything. I still pray that somehow bean is slow to catch up but will! I am going to be blunt that you might have to make a hard decision on Friday. I am so sorry you have to go through such a hard time. Having just been there I completely understand the glimmer of hope but the sadness. Once Friday comes you might be able to have more information. Big hugs.

PA-FA - argh! Pregnancy sucks... what a ditz, and she knew about your IVF? Geesh. On this note try, Girlfriend's guide to pregnancy, it is really funny but prepares you for the yucky part of things in a really funny way. I also have a huge list I put together of things I wish I had known... so if you PM me your email address I can send you the list. It is simple stuff but things I wish someone had told me before I gave birth...

AFM - started bleeding heavily today, was a little shocked but I guess it was coming, got cramps. If it was AF it would be no big deal but knowing it is not AF but the loss of a pregnancy makes it really hard. I am trying to stay positive about our next cycle... HCG go to 0 quick!!!!

[PA_FA]

Kitty- Congrats on your 2 healthy beans! I am sooooooooooo happy for you!

BabyRN- You crack me up! Secret betas and now secret u/s. I would be all over that machine if I worked there. On the flip side what a wonderful job you have! All those babies!!! I can totally understand how hard it would be sometimes with all of the problems we have all gone through to get pregnant. The good, the bad and the ugly...right?

Rio- I'll send you my e-mail. I'm sorry you are having a bad day. Your positive outlook is so wonderful though even though we know it's hard. Big hugs to you sweetie!

AFM- Nothing new. Still not working. Just hanging out at home. I have bloodwork to do on July 1 with my RE. I guess he just wants to check things one more time even though my stupid insurance no longer covers me at the RE.

[purpleFish]

PA - I am happy to hear that so far things are still good! I am praying that it stays that way!

Rio - you are always so positive it amazes me! Try to think of it as a fresh start to something wonderful.

Kitty - I am so happy for you. If you have any questions about twins or what to expect, now or down the road feel free to send me a message.


I agree with everyone that it is so hard to hear when other's don't want a baby or are complaining endlessly about pregnancy. I have a neighbor who has two wonderful daughters 7 and 9, and all that woman does is complain about having kids... I want to shake her and tell her how lucky she is to have two healthy well behaved children Every time I don't feel well or am sick, I just remember how lucky I am for what I have.

I had a great trip with my friend from college, it was relaxing and fun. This weekend we are doing a two night camping trip with the kids. We rented a rustic cabin from the forrest service. It should be fun!

[mev0630]

Hi All!

PAFA - I'm so relieved to hear that everything is okay and that you're taking a break from work to take care of yourself and your little bean. I hope that things continue to go well. I completely agree with your comments that this community has been so supportive and I too felt at "home" once I decided to join and participate in posting. There is a genuine sense of understanding, empathy, and support that I have not been able to duplicate in other forums. A special thanks to everyone!

Kittymom - Congrats! And welcome to the twins club! We can compare notes Purplefish recommended a book, "When You're Expecting Twins, Triplets, or Quads, Revised Edition: Proven Guidelines for a Healthy Multiple Pregnancy" by Barbara Luke which I just picked up from the library. I'm also reading "Your Pregnancy: Week by Week" by Glade Curtis.

Kamaile - I was having the same feelings today. Today no nausea, nothing. I have to say there's some reassurance when I feel queasy. It too makes me anxious when I feel "fine". I hate that I don't see my OB again for a month, I'm considering asking her if I can come next week for an U/S just to see how they're doing! I will scrounge up the money if I have to pay out-of-pocket. Or maybe I'll see if my RE will do one more U/S.

AFM - My husband and I are still discussing whether or not we should undergo any screenings or genetics testing. Our OB is very open and not forcing or insisting that we do any testing and really leaving it up to us. She stated that upon any results, if we do not plan on changing the course of our pregnancy then there is no reason to do the tests or to deal with any risks associated with some of the testing. Any advice out there? We have no family history of problems, and although I am 36yo, my 29yo AMAZING sister is our egg donor so the risks are even lower with her young age. I'd love to hear your advice or your thought process when you came to this point. I have to say, we're considering going ahead with the screening since it's only bloodwork and U/S - nothing invasive - and our rationale is that at least we would have an opportunity for one more U/S. Thanks for your time!

[bei]

ok ok ok ......sorry for being MIA. I have been so unbelievably sick all day and night long with this morning (ya right!!!) sickness.

So then a quick update...Where shall I start. So went for a U/S on monday morning to look for a heartbeat. DH and I were so freaked out about it all we did not say a word to each other the whole night and then whole way to the doctors office.

We get there and they get us into a room and start to polk around....all of a sudden out of nowhere, the doctor is like so let me show you what we are looking at on the screen.. Here is one sac ...and a heartbeat...(I am like wow - thats amazing).. THen.....doctors is like and here is another sac and another 2 hearbeats....TRIPLETS<>>>>>>>>>>Ya baby(ies).

So apparently we transferred two but one embryo split and now we now have our selves one set of identical twins and a singleton.

We are so thrilled and now let the journey begin....and oh wow what a journey it may be.. (after all the suffering..its a miracle)


Bei.

[Tess69]

Hi all

What an exciting 'catch up' read this has been for me.

Bei - Wahooooo! No wonder you have been feeling so tired! What fabulous news. How exciting to have triplets (with two identical). You must be 'over the moon'.

Kitty - And twins for you. That's just brilliant.

Mev - an ethical dilemma. Is you sister okay with the screening? If so, I don't see any reason not to do it but I think you need to well assured that your sister is at ease with this.

Rio - I agree with everyone that your positivity is inspirational. I have also treasured the honest advice you have given me. You've been and continue to be amazing Although your bleeding signifies the loss of pregnancy, it also signifies a type of cleansing, and brings you one step closer to that next cycle.

Purplefish - so glad to hear that you had a great weekend away with your friends. Have fun camping in the forest. It's winter time here in New Zealand, so no camping for me for a while as it's a bit nipply!

I'm hoping that I'll at least see something at the u/s on Friday but very much aware that I may not and that a big decision may be just around the corner.

Anyway folks, all the very best to everyone.

[pep23]

Hi ladies-

Quick update from me. Went for my first OB appt yesterday. He said it may be too early to hear a heartbeat with the doppler but he would try. So after a few minutes...nothing. I started freaking out and he assured me over and over it was perfectly normal, that the usual time frame to hear is 10-12 weeks (I was 9 weeks on Monday) but sometimes he gets lucky. Of course now I am a mess and worried something is wrong. I did see a strong heart beat at 6 and 8 weeks but I still can't help bu towrry. I do not go back for three weeks and I cannot wait that long. I called my RE this AM and she is going to see me at 1 today to make sure the baby is ok. I think sometimes regular OBs just forget what all we IVF gals have to go through and telling me "Don't worry, I'm sure it's fine and we will hear it in 3 weeks" is NOT reassuring. Maybe for someone who has an easy road to pregnancy but not for me!! Just wanted to vent real quick and ask you guys all to say a little prayer and keep fingers crossed that my little one is ok and was just being stubborn and hiding yesterday!

There are some personals I need to catch up on but don't have the time right now so I will check back in later...

Thanks ladies!

[riogirl71]

Bei - triple WOW! Congratulations! I bet you are still in shock! After all you have been through, what a blessing! Hope you are feeling well and take it easy!

PA-FA Anything good on tv? how is your taking it easy week going? I hope you are getting tons of rest! I will send you that list when I find it

pep it is sometimes hard to find it with a doppler, don't worry too much, yes we IVFers are way more scared! Glad the RE is seeing you!

Tess You are right, I need to see it as one step closer to another IVF! Thank you hun. Rub your belly and poke it gently and say grow little bean! I am praying for good results on Friday! There is always hope, stranger things have happened!

mev I might make someone upset with my opinions but I don't mean to offend anyone. I always wanted genetic screening. I did not want to do CVS or Amnio because after IVF, 1 in 100 or 1 in 200 risk of miscarriage was too much for me! So I did the nuchal and 1st blood test. I was 36 and keep in mind that because you are 36 they give you crappy odds (they might use 29), so nuchal was fine. The blood test came in as increased risk of downs and even upped my odds of having a down's baby. I was devastated and scared. My OB still did not want me to do an amnio. We waited for the second set of bloodwork and level II us and finally everything was great and they gave me minimal odds of a birth defect. Those first blood tests can be wrong a lot. I went to other boards for support and numerous girls had false positives for defects. I had scheduled an amnio for after my level II in case it was still looking bad but then cancelled. My cousin who is 42 and pregnant went straight to CVS, she is a doctor and her DH is an OB, she didn't want to risk defects. Now the big question is are you willing to have a baby with a birth defect? Some birth defects are painful for the baby and the baby does not survive more than a couple of terrible months. Some other defects they can live with and have a productive life. Are you willing to end your pregnancy? If you are not willing to end your pregnancy no matter what the tests show, then don't get tested. If you will consider terminating your pregnancy, then get tested. My sister in law is adopted. She has cerebral palsy and numerous other birth defects. Her parents were 18 when she was born and gave her up. My in laws adopted her and my DH had to spend his childhood caring for her. I see how hard everything is on the family. the numerous surgeries she had to go through and how hard every day is. I know that I could not go through the same thing or put my son in that position of losing his childhood to care for a disabled child if I could avoid it. I am sorry and I know many people will disagree with me and I commend you for not feeling the way I do. I am being bluntly honest that I would terminate a pregnancy if I found out my child had a serious birth deffect. My friend ended hers when the OB said her son would die in 2 months time since he had trissomy 16 (I forgot the number). Sorry for the long post but you asked for opinions, I won't give you advice, but tell you what I would do and it might not be the choice for everyone. But having been there with a close history of it in the family I have a little hands on experience with living with a disabled person. It is a very personal decision and I wish you the best!

AFM - Thank you for your kind words ladies! I had a feeling in the back of my mind that I probably wouldn't get this lucky twice so I kind of expected this IVF not to work but of course I am still devastated. With that said I have very high hopes that my next cycle WILL work and I am very excited about it. I also didn't want to leave this board after my bad results because I feel like I might be able to contribute or help here and there. I know there are other girls here who are moms already and I think it helps to get that support when you are a first time pregnant IVF mom! Plus helping others is always a way to feel good So you girls can't get rid of me that easily hehehe! I am having such bad cramps and bleeding, nothing like an AF. I went for another beta today so please pray that it is very close to 0. Hope you are all having a good week, happy hump day!

[lisadcb]

Bei - TRIPLETS!!!! Wow, I have been wondering if the same thing has happened to me because of my crazy high betas. I wish you a safe and healthy pregnancy.

Kitty - Twins...this really should be a "multiples" board. I am wondering if there is a higher rate of multiples now because they are doing a better job at finding the better quality embies to transfer?

AFM - All-day sickness is starting to sneak itself into my life. I hope nobody gets mad at me...but my first pregnancy my DH bought me the "pregancy sucks" book...and I appreciated it. It just talks about all the yucky stuff that women have to experience during pregancy. And I had a horrible pregnancy! I threw up everday (2-4 times a day) from week 6 until 1 hour after he was born; when I wasn't throwing up, I always felt like I was about to; I had a hard time with breathing because I carried so high; I had horrible all-over-body itching during my last trimester; spend half of my life on toilet between throwing up and needing to pee; very painful charley horses (day and night); was always exhausted because I could never get any decent sleep; very painful migraines...the list could go on. And trust me ladies, as much as I wanted to get pregnant and was grateful that I was pregnant...I did complain. Some days I felt guilty about it, but usually, I just realized that I was physically miserable and some days I just couldn't put on a happy face. While I was pregnant, I truly questioned myself on whether I could willingly put myself back in that horrible physical state again...but the moment I got to see and hold my son, I knew that I could. Not because I was already "forgetting" but because the end result was worth all the sucky parts of pregnancy. So if you come across a "complaining" pregnant woman, it doesn't always mean she is upset that she is pregnant or that she is not grateful, but maybe she is just feeling physically horrible. Sorry for the novel...but I worry about all the "yucky" parts that are coming and I want to talk openly about it without worry that people will think I'm ungrateful.