Hi Friends,
Need a little moan here am hopeing it will make me feel a little better as some of you know i am starting my first icsi cycle at the beginning of july i have had real low points b4 but this is something new i am feeling am going to try and describe in the best way i can, ok here goes a car full of petrol runs really reallly well mayb a little to well, a car with slighty less runs nice and smoothly can go over the bumps without a problem, a little less petrol and the car starts to have the off day, less petrol but b4 it goes on the red the car starts to feel very very low indeed, now it hits the red and the car can only go on working for a little longer b4 it stops thats me im on the red i really dont know how to keep going iv had my highs and many many lows over the past 3 years but iv always managed to come through the bad times with a little positve thinking i cant now have been feeling like this for a week or so now its many things that are making me feel this way the waiting to start treatment every day life seeing friends that are pregnant conversations seem to always be based around friends getting pregnant or being pregnant im not part of this i feel totally isolated and left in a cold cold world all alone the weekends are not so bad i have my family around me and i can hide indoors but i dread monday morning i seem to be permanantly on the brink of tears, iv told my dp im feeling very low at the moment and he trys bless him but he can still not totally understand what im feeling where as i know all of you girls know exactly where im at, i have thought about councilling but im not the sort of girl that easily talks about the way i am feeling i like to think i can cope and thought i would be able to but now im not so sure iv a good few weeks to go yet i do have an appointement on the 3rd of june which is not far off i may have a talk with the nurse then if im still feeling this way. have any of you had councilling at kings ?
any way sorry for going on girls lots of love to you all
am going to start a july cycle buddies post now bit early i know but may help me a bit
lots of love and +++++ vibes to you all
Love Ang
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ooooooo sorry girls i need a moan
Hi Ang,
I have only just joined this site, but just wanted to say hi and say there is so much to think about it's understandable you feel like this, but you are so nearly there now! It's all going to be happening really soon! June is just around the corner now so you can count down those days!
Wishing you lots of luck..
Kel
I have only just joined this site, but just wanted to say hi and say there is so much to think about it's understandable you feel like this, but you are so nearly there now! It's all going to be happening really soon! June is just around the corner now so you can count down those days!
Wishing you lots of luck..
Kel
hi
so sorry you feel so low, but it could of been me writting that last year.
The waiting is so hard all the if's and but's and what if we had done this..
I have had a lot of tmt in the past some better than other's people I have cycled with have all but a few gone on to have babies. I'm still here.
but the best bit of advice I had from tracey s when I felt like you was to try and take one day at a time deal with what is going on now. I used to worry about tmt before it had even started and now I take it all one step at a time, it is the only way I can cope.
I have some fab friends and can talk to them about my tmt, my sister even came to a di with me she is really understanding. I really felt better once me and hb had counselling at our clinic it really did help. I would try and focus on getting your self together for your next tmt. A weekend way with your dh would be a good start and treat your self to lots of nice things. I joined weight watcher and lost two stone and now I'm a size 12.This made me feel so much better what i'm trying to say is do something positive for you.
I still have my low days but they are not so often and i'm just living a good life while I wait to get pg...
Hope i have not gone on to much.
any time you need to talk I'm here,
july ann
so sorry you feel so low, but it could of been me writting that last year.
The waiting is so hard all the if's and but's and what if we had done this..
I have had a lot of tmt in the past some better than other's people I have cycled with have all but a few gone on to have babies. I'm still here.
but the best bit of advice I had from tracey s when I felt like you was to try and take one day at a time deal with what is going on now. I used to worry about tmt before it had even started and now I take it all one step at a time, it is the only way I can cope.
I have some fab friends and can talk to them about my tmt, my sister even came to a di with me she is really understanding. I really felt better once me and hb had counselling at our clinic it really did help. I would try and focus on getting your self together for your next tmt. A weekend way with your dh would be a good start and treat your self to lots of nice things. I joined weight watcher and lost two stone and now I'm a size 12.This made me feel so much better what i'm trying to say is do something positive for you.
I still have my low days but they are not so often and i'm just living a good life while I wait to get pg...
Hope i have not gone on to much.
any time you need to talk I'm here,
july ann
been in tmt for 4 years.Male factor. Have had 3 icsi, one ivf with donor sperm.Went for fet with 7 eggs but none made it to blastocyst. just had 5 DI. test date 27 july
just wanted to say thankyou to you both i have been thinking about a weekend away think i may talk to dp about it tonight we went to the lake district last novemeber and had booked up to go again this july but had to cancel due to my treatment starting at the same time right thats it im def gonna have a weekend away i need it hehehe sod the money we cant afford it but some things just have to be done thanks girls
love Ang xx
love Ang xx
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Hi,
This is my first time on this board, and all I could say is don't worry too much, I now it is not easy but take it one day at a time..I am probably gonna have my first IVF/ICSI in July, I sometimes get real nervous and scared, but I try to talk to myself, and remind myself how many people have conceived with this procedure ! Stay positive girl ! We can all do it !
-Teresa
This is my first time on this board, and all I could say is don't worry too much, I now it is not easy but take it one day at a time..I am probably gonna have my first IVF/ICSI in July, I sometimes get real nervous and scared, but I try to talk to myself, and remind myself how many people have conceived with this procedure ! Stay positive girl ! We can all do it !
-Teresa
Hi Ang,
We've all been there - you are not alone, and you're also not some kind of freak for feeling like you do - you feel perfectly normal for someone in your position and there are heaps of people here who feel just like you do. We all understand.
For me counselling helped, but the only reason I agreed to go was because the woman who did the counselling had been through years of IVF herself - without success. I didn't feel like anyone else would really understand, and I didn't want other people pitying me. She was good, I would recommend it if you can find someone who specialises - your clinic should know some one? I'm not one to talk about things either, so I do know how you feel. Just keep going, one day at a time. Do all those things you won't be able to do when you have kids - go on holidays at the last minute, enjoy long sleep ins, go out to pubs and nice restaurants. Make the most of the time you and DH have together while you have it, and get your relationship nice and strong for when the little ones come along.
Just hang in there.
Jaye.
We've all been there - you are not alone, and you're also not some kind of freak for feeling like you do - you feel perfectly normal for someone in your position and there are heaps of people here who feel just like you do. We all understand.
For me counselling helped, but the only reason I agreed to go was because the woman who did the counselling had been through years of IVF herself - without success. I didn't feel like anyone else would really understand, and I didn't want other people pitying me. She was good, I would recommend it if you can find someone who specialises - your clinic should know some one? I'm not one to talk about things either, so I do know how you feel. Just keep going, one day at a time. Do all those things you won't be able to do when you have kids - go on holidays at the last minute, enjoy long sleep ins, go out to pubs and nice restaurants. Make the most of the time you and DH have together while you have it, and get your relationship nice and strong for when the little ones come along.
Just hang in there.
Jaye.
Hi Ang,
Have you booked that weekend a way? Just before my first tretament I went away with a group of friends. None of them were pregnant or had babies so I could really escape for a week. It is so hard ... but in 3 months time might be joining your pregnant friends in talking about your bumbs etc. Howe exciting is that going to be.
Do allow yourself to be miserable though, as it is really tough not being able to conceive naturally. I get through it by not thinking that I can't have children but more that I am just having to be patient, and to make the most of my life while I can. Thats not to say that I don't have many days crying and being very miserable because I do.
When I had my first treatment I didn't go out much and didn't plan any holidays or weekends away. When I got the negative result I was so gutted, especially as I had missed out on seeing friends and didn't have anything planned for the near future.
I am having my next tretament this month. I have just booked to go on holiday just after et and then also booked to go on a friends hen do in Barcelona for July.
My fingers are crossed for your treatment .... give yourself and dp a big hug.
From Sophie Jane
Have you booked that weekend a way? Just before my first tretament I went away with a group of friends. None of them were pregnant or had babies so I could really escape for a week. It is so hard ... but in 3 months time might be joining your pregnant friends in talking about your bumbs etc. Howe exciting is that going to be.
Do allow yourself to be miserable though, as it is really tough not being able to conceive naturally. I get through it by not thinking that I can't have children but more that I am just having to be patient, and to make the most of my life while I can. Thats not to say that I don't have many days crying and being very miserable because I do.
When I had my first treatment I didn't go out much and didn't plan any holidays or weekends away. When I got the negative result I was so gutted, especially as I had missed out on seeing friends and didn't have anything planned for the near future.
I am having my next tretament this month. I have just booked to go on holiday just after et and then also booked to go on a friends hen do in Barcelona for July.
My fingers are crossed for your treatment .... give yourself and dp a big hug.
From Sophie Jane
Aged 32. 1st ivf failed March 04. Going to try again with my frosties.
Have a scruffy dog called Tobye.
Have a scruffy dog called Tobye.
Angela
I really feel for you I really do. So some advice - not sure if it will help but you are getting it anyway!
First of all To say hello to my special Friend July Ann - a day hardly goes by when I don't think of you (don;t worry not stalking!
) and hope and pray your dream will come. It tests all of us doesn't it this IVF lark and I can't believe that you and Traci are still here - and Grace over the other forum - it is so unfair and it could have been so different for you and for me................ Keep your pecker up and look at DI - she is about to have hers and that was 12 attempts!
Angela I am sure you have read this anyway and does not mean much but July Ann is an inspiration.
You are not alone - I am pg at the moment on my 5th attempt with twins - I have wanted children for about 15 years - well always really and am now 38 this july! My DH has two step children - Katherine was 18 months when we started living together (known him for years) and Rachel was 5 - they are now nearly 10 and nearly 6 and each time I looked at them I could either weep or scream or both as it seemed so unfair that I could not have children. My first IVF was ectopic and then two and 3 failed - 4 worked and he died at 20 weeks totally unexpectedly and now 5 pg again! Hopefully.............. The whole time I felt life so unfair - I had a lap and dye and bam buggered tubes - she said "you are a mess and you will never have children" - great bedside manner. My whole life came crashing in as I had to face two step children once in the week and every other weekend for starters. All my friends had babies and none had problems - 5 people at work were pg and my brother rang me out of the blue the night I found out to tell me his horrid wife was pg with their second - he is younger than me!!!
I hated the sight of pg women and young babies and could not face going out with friends who had babies. I did not find this site until I was on the 2ww for my second tmt and it was and still is a godsend!!! As soon as I found out I felt I had to do something - I was getting to the stage where even fat men looked pg and I hated that too!!!
I was determined to get the ball rolling with ivf straight away. I did and it ended up ectopic just 2 weeks before my wedding - !!!!!!!!!! My inlaws kept saying dum things like "well it has worked" - do you see a baby I thought! I felt nobody understood really. The lead up to your first tmt is like a pressure cooker - I felt pleased and excited I was finally doing something and then scared it would not work and the roller coaster of emotions was enormous.
The advice I gave to July Ann (thanks for remembering) was something I decided on after my first tmt and the disaster and pain of the ectopic! WE unfortunately (or fortunately depending on which way you look at it, ) are in the hands of medical science (and today's results show it is not a bad place to be) and we have no control over most of our baby making at all. I like control and would try and sit in the same chair if it proved lucky for someone else and avoid other chairs - dum stuff like that just to try and help the process along. All along I would sometimes lose the plot and tell my DH it was alright for him as he had kids - I would sometimes scream and soemtimes cry............ you know the stuff and be brave on the outside for the whole world. I decided to take each little step at a time - a day at a time and manage that little portion of my life. It helps. I decided very early to park the physical side of the tmt as I would be able to hack it, bite the bullet on the money side as would work out somehow (????) and then concentrate on the mental side which is the hardest. Little steps Angela are the best - try not to do what I did and keep trying to find fences to leap over and hurdles before they are there - they will come along anyway and you are better to stand back and jump them properly than try and jump them before you have cleared the others.
Talk to people - I went to councilling once after my ectopic and found the woman useless (but it works for others) Talk to your partner - your family us , anyone that can listen and not judge. My husband and I are best mates and though he cannot ever be in the same place as me he tried and I had to learn to realize he was doing his best and nothing would make him in the same place. Tick little things off one by one as they arrive and go with your feelings. It is a roller coaster and it is a nightmare but learn to have some laughs along the way - if you can it really helps.
I must have had so many laughs on this site and made friends for life. I hopefully have cheered people up (I am completely mad and the things I have done whilst on tmt are just potty!) and chivvied them along when they are down the same as they did for me. Use us and anyone you can to get you through and most of all ACCEPT what you are and what is happening - don't worry if you cry and feel alone because that is what is happening to you that day - accept that that particular day is how you feel and move on for the next day and try and do something else like smile.
For most of us IVF works if we have the stamina and money and patience. It does work and most people do get sorted out. Dreadfully it takes some longer than others but who says it's fair? Don't worry or think about this yet and try not to think statistics etc - hard I know - set in your mind what you want and just go for it - go and live out your dreams because most probably at some stage it will come true and you will give advice like this.
Sorry to ramble on - pg brain (actually always like this)
Good luck
July Ann - good luck and may your special dreams come true
Love
Tracey
xxx
I really feel for you I really do. So some advice - not sure if it will help but you are getting it anyway!
First of all To say hello to my special Friend July Ann - a day hardly goes by when I don't think of you (don;t worry not stalking!
) and hope and pray your dream will come. It tests all of us doesn't it this IVF lark and I can't believe that you and Traci are still here - and Grace over the other forum - it is so unfair and it could have been so different for you and for me................ Keep your pecker up and look at DI - she is about to have hers and that was 12 attempts!Angela I am sure you have read this anyway and does not mean much but July Ann is an inspiration.
You are not alone - I am pg at the moment on my 5th attempt with twins - I have wanted children for about 15 years - well always really and am now 38 this july! My DH has two step children - Katherine was 18 months when we started living together (known him for years) and Rachel was 5 - they are now nearly 10 and nearly 6 and each time I looked at them I could either weep or scream or both as it seemed so unfair that I could not have children. My first IVF was ectopic and then two and 3 failed - 4 worked and he died at 20 weeks totally unexpectedly and now 5 pg again! Hopefully.............. The whole time I felt life so unfair - I had a lap and dye and bam buggered tubes - she said "you are a mess and you will never have children" - great bedside manner. My whole life came crashing in as I had to face two step children once in the week and every other weekend for starters. All my friends had babies and none had problems - 5 people at work were pg and my brother rang me out of the blue the night I found out to tell me his horrid wife was pg with their second - he is younger than me!!!
I hated the sight of pg women and young babies and could not face going out with friends who had babies. I did not find this site until I was on the 2ww for my second tmt and it was and still is a godsend!!! As soon as I found out I felt I had to do something - I was getting to the stage where even fat men looked pg and I hated that too!!!
I was determined to get the ball rolling with ivf straight away. I did and it ended up ectopic just 2 weeks before my wedding - !!!!!!!!!! My inlaws kept saying dum things like "well it has worked" - do you see a baby I thought! I felt nobody understood really. The lead up to your first tmt is like a pressure cooker - I felt pleased and excited I was finally doing something and then scared it would not work and the roller coaster of emotions was enormous.The advice I gave to July Ann (thanks for remembering) was something I decided on after my first tmt and the disaster and pain of the ectopic! WE unfortunately (or fortunately depending on which way you look at it, ) are in the hands of medical science (and today's results show it is not a bad place to be) and we have no control over most of our baby making at all. I like control and would try and sit in the same chair if it proved lucky for someone else and avoid other chairs - dum stuff like that just to try and help the process along. All along I would sometimes lose the plot and tell my DH it was alright for him as he had kids - I would sometimes scream and soemtimes cry............ you know the stuff and be brave on the outside for the whole world. I decided to take each little step at a time - a day at a time and manage that little portion of my life. It helps. I decided very early to park the physical side of the tmt as I would be able to hack it, bite the bullet on the money side as would work out somehow (????) and then concentrate on the mental side which is the hardest. Little steps Angela are the best - try not to do what I did and keep trying to find fences to leap over and hurdles before they are there - they will come along anyway and you are better to stand back and jump them properly than try and jump them before you have cleared the others.
Talk to people - I went to councilling once after my ectopic and found the woman useless (but it works for others) Talk to your partner - your family us , anyone that can listen and not judge. My husband and I are best mates and though he cannot ever be in the same place as me he tried and I had to learn to realize he was doing his best and nothing would make him in the same place. Tick little things off one by one as they arrive and go with your feelings. It is a roller coaster and it is a nightmare but learn to have some laughs along the way - if you can it really helps.
I must have had so many laughs on this site and made friends for life. I hopefully have cheered people up (I am completely mad and the things I have done whilst on tmt are just potty!) and chivvied them along when they are down the same as they did for me. Use us and anyone you can to get you through and most of all ACCEPT what you are and what is happening - don't worry if you cry and feel alone because that is what is happening to you that day - accept that that particular day is how you feel and move on for the next day and try and do something else like smile.
For most of us IVF works if we have the stamina and money and patience. It does work and most people do get sorted out. Dreadfully it takes some longer than others but who says it's fair? Don't worry or think about this yet and try not to think statistics etc - hard I know - set in your mind what you want and just go for it - go and live out your dreams because most probably at some stage it will come true and you will give advice like this.
Sorry to ramble on - pg brain (actually always like this)
Good luck
July Ann - good luck and may your special dreams come true
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Angela
welcome to the site , well what can I say Nothing as good old Tracey Sharp has covered everything imacuately well done you should write a book!!! that would make you some money!!! and I think that deserves 5 posts!!!! anyway Angela you have defo come to the right place we are always here for you .
Trace x
welcome to the site , well what can I say Nothing as good old Tracey Sharp has covered everything imacuately well done you should write a book!!! that would make you some money!!! and I think that deserves 5 posts!!!! anyway Angela you have defo come to the right place we are always here for you .
Trace x
Ang
You are very welcome and always will be............ sorry had to go and have some zzzzzzzzzzzzzz's as not sleeping well at night with these two!
Trace - my matey good luck to you too as well you know.
You can always find me floating around the boards - normally on someone's else's thread addressed to a completely different name -
Trace my email is buggered!!!! - am trying the old switching on and off lark but won't send or receive now!
Love
Tracey
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You are very welcome and always will be............ sorry had to go and have some zzzzzzzzzzzzzz's as not sleeping well at night with these two!
Trace - my matey good luck to you too as well you know.
You can always find me floating around the boards - normally on someone's else's thread addressed to a completely different name -
Trace my email is buggered!!!! - am trying the old switching on and off lark but won't send or receive now!
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
well you have made me cry tracey, you always seem to hit the spot.
angela so glad you feel a bit better and not so alone.
we will get to the other side Traci and I are waiting for each other..
take care
love july ann
angela so glad you feel a bit better and not so alone.
we will get to the other side Traci and I are waiting for each other..
take care
love july ann
been in tmt for 4 years.Male factor. Have had 3 icsi, one ivf with donor sperm.Went for fet with 7 eggs but none made it to blastocyst. just had 5 DI. test date 27 july
July Ann
That's the spirit - you always put up a fight - part of this battle is to not let it win - you must always be determined to be the winner (I was) and because of that I really believe you will get there.
Traci - just reread your post - OLD underlined - hello this is pot calling black kettle!!!!!
Love
Tracey
xxx
That's the spirit - you always put up a fight - part of this battle is to not let it win - you must always be determined to be the winner (I was) and because of that I really believe you will get there.
Traci - just reread your post - OLD underlined - hello this is pot calling black kettle!!!!!
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Hiya Angela,
I know exactly how you are feeling. We are also waiting for our 1st ICSI treatment to begin, we were told before christmas it would be sometime after March but more likely to be during the summer, but unlike you, we still don't know when it will begin.
It was just after we were told that that i hit my all-time low, i was so depressed, didn't want to celebrate christmas, my Fiance's brother was cheating on his girlfriend who (at that time) had a 6 month old daughter (that really p'd me off) and his 2 year old cousin died in an accident, all this plus being told we'd have to wait even longer for treatment sent me into a deep depression.
We were also talking about getting married but i didn't want to make any plans "just in case treatment begins" i just wanted to put everything on hold. I posted all my worries here and the girls were great, they said not to let upcoming treatment rule my life, make my wedding plans, go out, enjoy myself, have a holiday.
And i did exactly that ... my wedding is in 10 days time (on the 22nd, also my 29th birthday the same day) and then we're going away for a week to Wales (not very glamorous for a honeymoon but at least it's a break away from here).
Don't get me wrong, i do still have days where i cry a lot but i try not to let it get to me, the wedding plans have really helped to take my mind off things.
So my advice is exactly what the girls told me ... try not to let upcoming treatment take over your life (easier said than done i know), go out and enjoy yourself and have a holiday and before you know it you'll be ready to begin.
Feel free to email me anytime if you ever want to have a good old moan.
Take care and wish you all the best.
Lotsa love
Michelle
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I know exactly how you are feeling. We are also waiting for our 1st ICSI treatment to begin, we were told before christmas it would be sometime after March but more likely to be during the summer, but unlike you, we still don't know when it will begin.
It was just after we were told that that i hit my all-time low, i was so depressed, didn't want to celebrate christmas, my Fiance's brother was cheating on his girlfriend who (at that time) had a 6 month old daughter (that really p'd me off) and his 2 year old cousin died in an accident, all this plus being told we'd have to wait even longer for treatment sent me into a deep depression.
We were also talking about getting married but i didn't want to make any plans "just in case treatment begins" i just wanted to put everything on hold. I posted all my worries here and the girls were great, they said not to let upcoming treatment rule my life, make my wedding plans, go out, enjoy myself, have a holiday.
And i did exactly that ... my wedding is in 10 days time (on the 22nd, also my 29th birthday the same day) and then we're going away for a week to Wales (not very glamorous for a honeymoon but at least it's a break away from here).
Don't get me wrong, i do still have days where i cry a lot but i try not to let it get to me, the wedding plans have really helped to take my mind off things.
So my advice is exactly what the girls told me ... try not to let upcoming treatment take over your life (easier said than done i know), go out and enjoy yourself and have a holiday and before you know it you'll be ready to begin.
Feel free to email me anytime if you ever want to have a good old moan.
Take care and wish you all the best.
Lotsa love
Michelle
xxx
Hi Michelle
Thankyou its looking like im gonna have a weekend away in norfolk at the beginning of june which i think will help a lot am hoping i will come back all recharged and rareing to go,
I'm sending you all my best wishes for your big day have a wonderful day and a fantastic holiday after .
as for your treatment we were first told by the doc we wouldnt have to wait then a few weeks later we recieved a letter from the clinic that we had a 3 year wait i was in a real mess they said it was my age i was 26 thrn ,then being beginning of this year i rang them to see if there was a mistake they said no and were really abrupt with me so i sat down and wrote a long letter to the docter i had seen stating what he had told me the next thing i knew i had recieved a letter saying we had recieved our nhs funding we then had an appointment to fill in forms and stuff and then we were booked in for icsi in july so really i guess i was lucky i had no wait at all really, have been ttc for 3 years now, but think if i hadnt wrote that letter i would still be sitting here waiting now. anyway sorry if i have gone on a bit all my love Ang xx
look forward to hearing how your wedding goes
Thankyou its looking like im gonna have a weekend away in norfolk at the beginning of june which i think will help a lot am hoping i will come back all recharged and rareing to go,
I'm sending you all my best wishes for your big day have a wonderful day and a fantastic holiday after .
as for your treatment we were first told by the doc we wouldnt have to wait then a few weeks later we recieved a letter from the clinic that we had a 3 year wait i was in a real mess they said it was my age i was 26 thrn ,then being beginning of this year i rang them to see if there was a mistake they said no and were really abrupt with me so i sat down and wrote a long letter to the docter i had seen stating what he had told me the next thing i knew i had recieved a letter saying we had recieved our nhs funding we then had an appointment to fill in forms and stuff and then we were booked in for icsi in july so really i guess i was lucky i had no wait at all really, have been ttc for 3 years now, but think if i hadnt wrote that letter i would still be sitting here waiting now. anyway sorry if i have gone on a bit all my love Ang xx
look forward to hearing how your wedding goes