Summer cycle group

[Tiger04]

Karin - have you gotten AF yet? It's Thursday and I'm still waiting...now I have a beta appointment for tomorrow morning at 8:40 and I just don't want to spend the money if I'm going to get AF anyway! I just want it to come and get this over with! ugh.

[amanda1979]

good morning everyone!!

thank you all for talking me off the ledge! it was just a really vivid dream and it shook me up. did you ever have a dream that felt so real that when you woke up you thought it really happened? i've done it before where i had a dream that me and DH were fighting and i woke up all pissy at him for no reason. it takes a while for that feeling to go away. anyway the dream kinda reminded how it felt to get a BFN, and just the thought of it made me really sad and scared. you guys really help though. i'm so glad to have you all here for support! it helps more then you will ever know. we are so lucky to have each other!!!

lou i'm sooooooooo glad your meds came!!! wooohooo!! trust me, i am the queen of med problems, and pharmacy mess ups...so i know how stressful it can be! now you can relax and get yourself ready for stims!! 2 more days!! that is great news about your base check! lots of good follies ready to explode! now they need to behave themselves and wake up!!

amanda holy embies batman!! i still cant believe they were going to cancel you, and now you have 4 beautiful embies back in there mama where they belong!! are you worried about multiples? i dont think my DH would let me put that many back at once, but i hope you get one good sticky one of the bunch!! now go put your feet up!! PUPO girl! when is your beta?? welcome to the 2ww...its horrible!!

tammy ya know what i hate more them meds screw ups?? insurance screw ups!! and the fact that its insurance screw ups over meds....OMG!!! i really really really hope everything gets fixed today! i know all too well about how hours of your life can get sucked away from phone call after phone call to get these things straightened out! i'm sure everything will be fine, but its still soooo stressful and scary because its soooo much money!! when i did my first cycle a year ago i got a letter from my insurance company saying they cycle was denied (even though it was pre-approved before even starting) but when it was over they decided not to pay...it was a nightmare and i had to talk to a million people to get in fixed...it ended up being coded wrong!!!! grrrrrrr!! sooooo annoying!!

miyaya wow!! way to cook them mama!! those are amazing numbers!! i bet your gonna trigger soon...tomorrow if not today!! man you stim fast!! i'm so sorry you have to deal with annoying nurses who dont give you instructions...trust me i would be soooo frustrated! i am so bad at waiting for those calls. you are making me nervous because if this cycle is a bust i am going to switch to your RE, and now i dont want to have to deal with that kinda stuff all the time!! grow follies grow!!

fitz yay for starting stims tomorrow!! wooohooo! grow follies grow!!

lauren congrats on the new job!! 10 antral follies is good! you are exactly right...those are the ones they are going to wake up! are you on the antagonist protocol again? i cant remember...or are you doing the estrogen patch first and then the antagonist? if you are on the patch first then the point is to save those first 10 antral follies and trick your body into keeping them, and then adding more from the next cycle...so you have a stock pile!! haha i dont know if i explained that right. i think its normal to spot on estrogen, but i'm not sure. i think you have to keep those passes to the movies for your 2ww...trust me it helps a lot!! i'm so excited you are on your way!!

didi that is soooo crazy that you had the same dream!! they are evil arent they??? soooo not cool! i like your idea that we got our BFN's out of the way in our dreams so that we can get our BFP's in real life!! how are you doing? any signs or symptoms yet?? i'm here for you...even though i'm losing my mind!! hahaha! stick embies stick!! xoxo

chili its soooo exciting that you get to start again soon!! yay!! and you can stick around with us!!
oh and the eggplant is just an old joke between me and claud from our last cycle. she ate it the night of her ET, and got a BFP, and i stole her idea because i thought it was adorable...ya know...egg...plant!!
the pineapple is an old wives tale that claims eating pineapple after an ET (and more importantly the core of the pineapple) helps thicken your lining! so a lot of woman do this...ghost says there is no proof that it really works, but i like pineapple so why not right??

lauren wooohooo for starting stims!!! slow and steady mama!!! grow follies grow!! sooo exciting!! when is your first SnS??

rhonda thank you so much for popping in!! i miss you!! i am so deeply sorry to hear of your miscarriage! my hear goes out to you and DH! i hope you are healing. do you think you will try again when you are ready?? xoxoxo it means a lot that you are following me!!

karin please dont feel bad about ranting!! thats what we are here for....trust me i do it alot!! we all need to let off stream, and writing it out helps a ton!! i hate when RE's treat you like a chart and not a person who's heart is breaking! i'm so sorry that it came of the anniversary of your dad's passing. its enough to drive anyone mad!! hopefully you can try again soon, and we can keep you on this board!!

to everyone i missed i'm sorry, but like always you are all in my thoughts and heart!!

afm i woke up this morning and (tmi coming sorry...) when i wiped after going to the bathroom there was some light brown cervical mucus on the TP. i wouldnt call it spotting because it wasnt really..it was just cervical mucus, but the fact that it was brownish scared me. do you think its just from the PIO and the estrogen i'm taking or do you think its a sign of bad things to come?? man i hate the 2ww!! well actually as of today i only have a 1ww left!! the longest week ever i'm sure!


***much love always***

Franny- well the RE said he didn't think the 2 that were struggling would make it to freeze and we didn't want to get rid of them. I told DH I wanted to put all in and he agreed it was an easy decision at the time. After we left, I told my DH I wonder if we could call the RE back and ask him to suck 2 of them out..LOL I was only kidding but wouldn't that funny. Anyways, I am glad you are better after your dream and I wouldn't worry too much about the spotting. Our hormones are all over the place:) My beta is August 2nd. Hope you have a great day and try not to worry too much.

[miyaya]

hi girls. you would think after 5.5 years of TTC I would be a patient person. OMG....wait, wait, wait....that is all we do! I went for another SNS today and guess what...I am waiting for my results. After that, we wait for the fert report, then wait in 2ww and if we are lucky enough, we wait for first u/s, then wait for 1st tri to be over....then wait for their birth.....OMG.....I am totally sick of waiting today! I blame my intolerance on no caffiene!

Ok so I am done with that rant....

Tammy~ Horray for your meds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Franny~ it could totally be implantation spotting, or from the progesterone. Are you doing supps or PIO injections?
Hang tight, I suspect good things...I really do!

Tig~How many days DPO are you?

[karin1]

Tammy- Yay! I am so glad that you got your meds!

Tiger- I haven't gotten AF yet either. I have been on prometrium though. I was doing twice a day. Yesterday I only used one, which was last night. My RE said that it slows AF. Are you on it? Maybe you should go and get a beta. It will ease your mind. I can't remember is this your first IUI?

Chili- I am doing the AF dance for you girl! The sooner it comes....the sooner you can be on your way!

AFM- I talked to my RE this morning. He was really nice. He said that he only suggested a few weeks because he knew how hard this is getting for me. He didn't think that I wanted to hear donor eggs again so soon. He thought he was being sympathetic to my needs and apologized. He's right...I don't. It was so hard to hear. It feels like I'm in a bad dream. It's like when he's talking, I'm fading out or something. I just start crying and can hardly speak. I talked to DH about it. We have an appt in the morning to talk about how the process works. I'm not ready to give up on my own yet. I just want to be mentally prepared for DE. So....anywho....AF hasn't showed up yet. I still feel strangely different. Maybe I'm in denial because I want it so bad. Could be in my head. I think I will POAS today sometime, if not then definitely in the morning before I go. If I had one right now... I'd do it. I have to go and see some beautiful babies today. I volunteer at the hospital in the OB unit. I know...most people think that it would be torture. It actually gives me hope and makes me happy.

I want to thank ALL of you lovely ladies for your kind words of support and encouragement. I appreciate it more than you know. I am praying that all of us get beautiful babies to call our own.

Have a great day girls! I will check in again later!

*Lots of love*

[klinger13]

Tammy - YAY!!! I'm so glad you got the med issue straightened out!!

Sonya - What time is your u/s tomorrow? (So the rest of know roughly when to start refreshing our screens to see your post)

Annashope - good luck with beta #3 tomorrow!

Nancy - How did your consult go yesterday?

Karin - I'm so sorry you're going through this. Wish there was something I could say to take the pain away, but we're all thinking of you.

[to_have_fun08]

Karin - Just wanted to say I know how you feel. I didn't want to think about DE but then saw so many people getting BFP's with using donor. I also have DOR and never produce very many eggs, and they are not of good quality. Finally I got my head around DE and at this point really mad because I should have done DE a long time ago. I could be PG right now or have given birth by now. I know hindsight is 20/20. If your not ready to give up on your eggs, don't! Try another cycle and see how it goes. You don't want to have any regrets later on. Another thing that help me decide that DE would be good for me is that with DE you are only using 1 cell from someone else, just one cell. Genetically the child will not be yours but biologically it will and there are light switches that get turned on and off during pregnancy that can make the child yours. My husband wasn't for anonymous donor eggs, then was going to try with my sister but this new RE said Oh i know what your problem is and that she could get me PG. So I tried my eggs again, not once but twice. Now I am really regretting ever listening to this Dr. should have just gone with my gut instinct. Now I am out of $$ so will be done.

[dlk]

Franny: My soul sister. I too have noticed some mucus all through my cycle and today I noticed it was pinkish. I did BBT when we started TTC and I was very regular with both temp and mucus. However, since I started stims, mucus was more often and seemed random. I do love the implantation bleeding idea, but who knows how our bodies are reacting to all these hormones.

Amanda: Yeah for PUPO. 4

miyaya: Sorry about all the confusion with the satellite and the clinic. I get aggravated with my clinic not returning calls, but they are 10 minutes away so I always have the opportunity to just go in and see them in person. But after all that fuss, you have awesome growing follies!

Lou: So glad you meds finally showed up. Like you needed any extra stress.

fitzjr11: Good luck on starting stims! Awesome follicle count.

Lauren: Good luck as you start your new cycle.

Tammy: That sucks about the insurance. Ours is so bad about everything. My DH has a glucose monitoring system for his diabetes. After years of trying to get an approval, we finally succeeded and they sent approval for a year and that we had to order it from a certain place. When we went to get a refill on supplies 3 months later, they denied. What? I have the approval letter, the approval number and we used the place they said and still denied. Hours and hours on the phone. UGH! None of our IVF is covered. They only thing they covered was the HSG and initial labwork. And they denied the HSG at first too because it was coded wrong. Glad yours finally got worked out!!

Chili: I am so happy to hear you are moving forward. Good luck!

Rebecca: Good luck on starting. The injections aren’t too bad.

Tiger04: Did you decide if you are going to get your beta tomorrow?

Karin: - Glad you talked to the RE and he had a reason for his actions. It is always good to hear out the options.

Chris: You’re still in the game. I’m hoping for a BFP for you.

Ester: Thank you for keeping the list!

AFM: Still hanging out. I have been having some minor pain/twinges, but I starting having those after ER and before ET, so I am not sure if it is the PIO or my ovaries recovering from being stabbed. I have 2 HPT that have been sitting in my bathroom cabinet for a year being neglected and getting lonely. I have my beta on Tuesday (14dpo). I was thinking of POAS on Sunday and Monday, but now I wonder if I should do one now just to make sure the trigger is gone. Today is 4dp5dt. Hmm. I am just afraid that POAS is like crack and once I start I won’t be able to stop.

[miyaya]

hey girls just quick update.....e2 was 1203. I have 12 follies between 12-15. I hae to reduce gonal f tonight to 150 and continue with lupron and meopur. SNS again tomorrow. I expect to trigger tomorrow night for a sunday AM harvest. This is getting so exciting. I was enocuraged as the RN said the cycle is going grrrrrrrrrreat! I hope that is good news!!

[lou71]

Miyaya -- I hate the waiting part of this whole process too. But HOLY FOLLIES BATMAN.... that's a great count! You ARE having an awesome cycle.

Karin -- Your post made me smile when you said you volunteer at an OB unit. That's really sweet. I really hope your RE pulls out all the stops and can help you get a baby with your own eggs.

Chris -- Thinking of you. I do hope you are pregnant this time. I hate to see you give up. You deserve this so much.

Lauren1171-- I'll be taking 450 of Follistim and 75 of Menopur. My ER will be very close to yours since I only stim for 7-8 days normally. Good luck to us both! Look forward to going through the 2ww with you!

Chili -- Right! No longer stressing about meds. You need to put up a pic so I can see what my "big sis" looks like. LOL

Franny -- One week down... One week to go! Thinking of you.

Amanda -- Glad you have 4 to transfer! I did the same thing with my three last cycle. I had two good ones and one so-so one that likely wouldn't make it to freeze. I decided to throw it in there with the others. I did get pregnant and don't know which one it was that stuck. I don't know if I would do 4 since I know of several cases of ladies losing triplets. Then again.... some women have carried more than 4 successfully too! I hope one or two good ones stuck for you! You are in my thoughts.

Lauren -- Yes, 10 antral follicles means that's how many that could potentially "take off" when hyperstimulated. Check out this page from my RE's office. They explain AFC usefulness very well.http://www.advancedfertility.com/antralfollicles.htm We will be cycling very close together... hope this time is "the one" for both of us.

Tammy -- Soooo glad your med issue was resolved and we get to be cycle buddies. I know the panic. I am 100% self pay for meds, testing, and IVF. Seeing as though this is attempt #5... we've spent a enough to buy a beach house already. My clinic charges an extra $500 on top of itemizing all b/w and u/s if you have a cancellation as well.

AFM -- OK... I really don't enjoy acupuncture. But I'm doing it anyway. I'm really worried about this cycle. Really because affording another will be VERY difficult after this if it isn't successful. I'm soooo glad I have 20-22 antral follies but having nightmares that only a couple grow. I think I'll make sure I have a few beers this weekend while I still can...lol.

[amanda1979]

Hello ladies
I have a question that is personal, but do you have a hard time getting in the mood? Ever since we have been doing all this for the IVF I am never in the mood and before I was always in the mood. I guess knowing I am not interested doesn't help any. I guess it is all the meds, but man it is depressing Just wondering if anyone else has this side effect.

[annashope]

Amanda

that totally happened to me during the suppression phase ( on Lupron) but halfway through stimming everything came back to normal. I agree with you I think the pressure of IVF can totally cause this.

[nbfun]

Nancy - How did your consult go yesterday?

How do you remember and keep up with everything. WOW. I was just reading through here everything going on with everyone and was surprised to see this. Thanks for asking.

Dh's appointment went fine. It was different than we had thought it would be. The doctor discussed the whole sperm aspiration procedure. Then he also drew blood to make sure dh is still producing sperm. I thought that was odd as I had read that men don't stop producing until in their 70s typically. The test results will be in on Monday. From there the doctor said we need to get with the fertility clinic, attend an IVF class and go from there. He told dh "the next time I see you, will be for the sperm aspiration" My dh liked the doctor. He said he was very straight-forward and informative.

Again, thanks for asking.

Nancy

[klinger13]

Nancy - It's nearly impossible to try remember where everyone is at most of the time but I know you and I were still in the "consult" phase of things when we joined the thread and our latest appointments were just a couple days apart so you kinda stuck in my mind. I'm glad your husband's appointment went well and hopefully Monday's results will come back great so you can move on to the next steps. We've switched gears some, going to try IUI with injectables before moving on to IVF, so just waiting for my meds to be delivered tomorrow and then just waiting on AF to come so we can get it all started.

[karin1]

Well....I did it again....POAS....BFN Today is 16dpo, so I think it's official now. Whoever said that those tests were like crack is soooo right. I am such an addict.


To_have_fun08--Did you try DE? We are going in tomorrow to talk about the process. I feel like I want to keep trying for my own, but the clock is ticking and the money is going quick. I don't want to waste money on my own if it's not possible. It's such a big decision. Not to mention how much DE costs. It's like 30k. I don't know if we did more IVF cycles that we could still do that...plus the time lost. Wondering if I should just throw in the towel and go for it. I really don't know what to do. I will talk to my RE tomorrow and see what he says. Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. I don't know where you are in your journey. Will you be trying again? I hope that whatever you decide has a positive outcome.

[to_have_fun08]

Karin - No i didn't do DE. I wish we did. I wasn't hung up on my genetics thing. DH was, he said if he had a child he wanted it to be part of me. I understand but... I still want a child and that would have been our best shot. The percentages of success with donor eggs are a lot higher. My last RE gave me a 10% chance with my eggs and about a 70% chance with donor. I know donor is a big decision, so think everything through. the good part about donor is that the donors are usually young so time is not really an issue. As far as me, i am in my last 2WW. We transferred a 6cell and a 3 cell last Friday. they should have been at least 7 cells on day 3 so they were not developing properly, I really don't have hope that it will work. This is my 10th IVF cycle and am so ready to be done. I will just always wonder what would have happened if we did donor.