August Frozen Transfer

[blairwh58]

melo- Yea as of now only my DH, and 1 friend know about the IUIs, surgery, and IVF. The reason I told my friend is because she is one of "us" and understands exactly what I am going through. She went through 5 failed IVFs and ended up pregnant on #6. So even though she is pregnant right now, shes always there for me to talk to about all the stresses of this stuff. If my DH cant make it to the transfer than I may have to ask my friend or finally tell my mom about it. Hopefully he will be able to get off work so he can be there when we get pregnant though. I guess it would be funny to tell our kid that daddy wasnt even there when it happened. Looks like you will be the first to do the transfer and its not too far away!!

Jersey- im so jealous that you actually have an idea of what your lining will be before you go back for the final appt before the transfer. I am just hoping my lining cooperates this month and things are good when I go back on aug 20. If not im not sure if that means we will have to delay until next month. I know the embryologist is only in town certain days and she wont be here later that week. We will see I guess. Did you ever decide what to do with your lupron on vacation?

AFM- started lupron last night. Other than that nothing too exciting here.

[Jerseyjane]

Blair - I am taking your advice and I will leave the lupron out in my room on vacation and I'll keep all the needles in a ziploc bag so I can dispose of them when I get home. It's funny you were mentioning telling your child "daddy wasn't there when I got pregnant" because my DH wasn't there for the transfer I had that resulted in my daughter. He has been to all the others and now I am thinking maybe he's a jinx. I have 3 pregnancies under my belt with 1 child to show for it and he wasn't there for that 1, my mother came because he couldn't get off of work. Maybe I should tell him to sit this one out? (ha ha ha). Each time I do a round of ivf I seem to tell less and less people. This time around only my husband, mother and sister in law know.

[blairwh58]

Jersey- if that is how it works I guess I would be more than happy to ask my DH to work that day so we could actually get pregnant. Even though my last one didn't stick, I am hoping the chemical pregnancy at least means my body can get pregnant. Just hoping that it needed a slight pregnancy before it could go through with the full blown positive that lasted all 9 months. Was your successful pregnancy with fresh or frozen?

[mcfarland2213]

Hi Everyone - just wanted to drop in and say "HI" - I have a frozen transfer scheduled on August 19th, so I fit right into this thread I wish everyone luck with everything - I'm doing Lupron and just started my estrogen patches yesterday woo hoo - everything is looking great and we only go in once at my clinic with a frozen cycle - just an ultrasound test 1 week before the transfer. They freeze whatever they can but they keep a lot out to choose from for the first fresh cycle so we only had 5 to freeze - last time they thawed 3 and only 2 survived so we have 2 left - we're just hoping at least 1 survives the thaw - hopefully both! Hope everyone has a great weekend! ~Ashley

[Jerseyjane]

Hi Ladies, I hope everyone is having a great weekend.

Blair - My successful pregnancy was with a fresh cycle. As a matter of fact all my pregnancies (3 of them) were with fresh. My only BFN was with an FET so I am worried that this will not work as well, but I am trying not to be my usual pessimistic self. I had a fresh cycle that ended in miscarriage at 13 wks, then a successful one, then a failed a FET, then a fresh with another miscarriage so I am hoping if this is a pattern, this FET will be the one that works and sticks. My insurance will only cover 1 more fresh cycle so I feel alot of pressure. I mean don't get me wrong my daughter is such a good girl and so amazing and I am eternally greatful for her but I would still love to give her a sibling. I also feel pressure because on Tuesday I am turning 35 so I feel like the next fresh cycle may become harder, IDK maybe not. I guess all of us IF girls have so many fears and uncertainties it goes with the territory.

[Jerseyjane]

Mcfarland - Hi, we are on the same schedule. Hopefully the 19th will bring us good luck.

[blairwh58]

mcfarland- Welcome. Sounds like you fit right in here with us. Hopefully the thaw will leave you with 2 great embryos and the 19th will be one of your lucky days!

jersey- I was just trying to figure out whether people have more luck with frsh or frozen. My clinic told me that they have higher success rates with the frozen. The NP keeps telling me that we will have success next time, and shes still surprised that the 1st fresh cycle didnt work. Everyone seems to think that because of my age it should all work out...but it hasnt happened yet so Ill keep trying. My insurance pays for 50% after I meet my deductible..up to a $5000 lifetime max. And since I work for th insurance company my plan year just switched over July 1...so now I have to meet the $1500 deductible before they start paying for any of this again.

[Jerseyjane]

Blair - If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? As for fresh vs. frozen I can only go by my own experience which has been much better with fresh. I had 6 frozen and I like I said they freeze in pairs which sucks so I have the 2 left. My husband said to me, "since we're paying for the storage, we might as well use the last 2 we have." My clinic charges $250 every quarter for storage fee and we have been paying for these since 2007. I just hope this time will be my last. I feel so uncomfortable this cycle. With my last fresh cycle back in April and then the subsequent pregnancy I put on 7lbs. I seem to be sensitive to the meds. Now starting a new cycle I am on estrogen and lupron so far I have put on another 2 lbs. I love to jog, and no amount of jogging will help this bloated feeling I have. I know it's for a good reason but for someone who is 5'2'' and usually 115lbs the extra pounds make a difference. It doesn't help that I'll be on the beach next week. I guess that's my own issues you know.

Mcfarland - Where are you from?

[blairwh58]

Jersey- I am 25 and DH is 29. What's funny is that since no one knows we have even been TTC for going on 2 years, everyone always says oh you all are young and won't have any problems. Guess they don't realize that being young doesn't mean everything works the way it should. As for the storage fees I think we will have to pay 300 per year after the first year.

[Jerseyjane]

Blair - You both are young but you're so right your age is not the only factor going into this. $300 is not bad at all, I had to start paying storage fees the second they told me we had 6 embroyos to freeze.

[kizmet]

Melo - I'm on the same week as you by the looks of it - ultrasound this week and transfer the week of the 9th Aug. Maybe it's a southern hemisphere thing - I'm in Geelong, Vic. Australia.

McFarland - welcome! Were you in the May Cycle buddies group?

[Melo_P]

Hi Ladies

Blair: On Fresh Vs Frozen - my own personal experience is frozen - accounted for my blessed daugher (now 3.5 yrs) and a miscarrage 2008. The clinic here has a slighly higher success rate for Fresh - but think that is mostly down to the best embryos being used up first. Fresh ones haven't worked for me (err so far - heres to bucking the trend with the current cycle). But every cycle I have - the embroys get worse . . . and there are fewer and then none left to freeze. Gulp. On the upside no storage fees I guess. (which is a small hopeless compensation given we don't have insurance to cover any of the cycles cost at all!)

It must be frustrating when you have everyone thinking your fine because your young. I don't think anyone outside this world really realises that IVF just gives you a chance - it doesn't guarentee success.The first time around I think by Dad thought I was just going to 'put in my order for a test tube baby' and it would all work out fine! BUT - you do have age on your side - and that is a positive thing and something to put in your positive energy box and take into bat with you! It is really a good sign that your first go at IVF meant you both had embryo that was potential viable and that you had implantation! This cycle is the one! We're all blowing you B dust!!

Jersey Jane: Funny that some of the guys aren't even around for the "moment of conception" - you guys are very calm about it! I had a small amount of toy throwing out of the box when the boy was getting picky at me that I couldn't time the transfer to fit in with his work schedule (Seriously?! Like all he has to do is rock up and contribute an hour of his life!! Maybe he wants to trade for the version that is 6-8 weeks on a psycological roller coaster - with threats of OHSS, some early menapause - followed by a bunsen burner under the old ovaries - and some nice bloating just to finish off - ha ha!). Actually he's been really good (by that I just mean calm) this time around. It hasn't exactly been the "experience that brings us closer each time" ahem. And we're half way through this time and haven't killed each other yet!

Kizmet - eek - looks like we are first up!! Is this your first time around or have you had a few cycles? When will you know your transfer date and when is your US? I have my bloods tomorrow . . . to check the wee ovaries are being suitably roasted and that my hormones are being appropriately stimulated through the roof. Do they manage how many embroyos they put back in Oz?

McFarland - welcome. Glad the cycle is going well so far. Good luck with the thaw!

M

[blairwh58]

melo- I am very glad to hear that there are people with better success using the frozen than the fresh. With our fresh cycle the embryologist said she was impressed at our embryo quality. We had 13/13 fertilze, and after implanting 2- 10 celled embryos we ended up with 6 frozen. Im just hoping that some of those end up being our babies (not all at once of course). Hopefully this cycle proves you wrong and you end up with good quality embryos and a sibling for your daughter. And you are def right...everyone thinks that IVF is a sure bet to have a baby. I told DH last night that I cant wait to tell people in October (wishful thinking that in October I will be 10-12 wks along) and see what their expression is when I say well actually we tried for 2 years, had 3 failed IUIs, 2 IVFs, and thousands of dollars to get pregnant with this one. I really hope you are right and this group ends up with ++++++ in the next few weeks. Best of luck at your appointment.

Jersey- I am glad we get a year before we have to pay the storage fees. Stinks that you are more uncomfortable this cycle. Hopefully it will get better...especially while you are relaxing at the beach soon.

[Jerseyjane]

Melo - I know exactly what you mean. My DH has gotten better but the one thing that still bothers me is that he can be a bit selfish. I tried to get him to stop drinking a month before my last egg retrieval because his morphology is a little less than average so I figured why not give ourselves the best chance possible. I am not trying to say that he is an alcoholic, but he definitely likes to have a good time with his friends. I thought if I am making so many sacrafices, you can too. Of course he couldn't do it and it just pissed me off because I feel like it's so easy for them. He doesn't have to take all these hormones which in my case really mess with my moods, he doesn't have to gain weight or feel bloated, and with my 1st cycle my OHSS was so bad I gained 63 lbs in 2 weeks and he didn't have to look like a freak of nature. I am a teacher so imagine one day looking normal and the next looking like you swallowed a watermelon. Sorry I guess I am just venting. But as I said, he has become much more sympathetic and will even leave parties with me when I say I've had enough.

Blair - I am looking forward to a vacation, although since I am a teacher I haven't actually worked since the end of June. I keep telling myself that the discomfort will hopefully be for a good cause.

[kizmet]

Melo - I'm a newby. This is my first FET cycle. I did a fresh cycle in May 2010 which put me in hospital for 6 nights with OHSS. only 18 eggs, 14 fert, 6 embies made it to day 5 but only 2 frozen. The bloodwork leading up to ER didn't put me at high risk of OHSS but I certainly walked out of the day surgery in an enormous amount of pain and was admitted to hospital the next day. They kept me overnight but released me the following morning. I got sicker overnight again and had to be taken by ambulance to hospital in the morning and was admitted to ICU. An experience I'll be more than happy to forget! So we'll try these two embies and then have til next May off (so I can go to a wedding in Samoa in April 2011). They do limit the number of embies they put back here in Oz. I don't know if it differs significantly between clinics, but the most my clinic will do is 2 and you need a good reason to do that - they wont just do it because you want them to. I have an ultrasound on Thursday at 8am. Good luck with your bloods today. I hope all is on track - I'll race you to the finish!

JerseyJane and Melo - I agree, it is a strange feeling that DH may not even be there when we get pregnant. It's weird enough that our babies are conceived in the presence of strangers. And my DH had the audacity to complain about the pain in his testicles from the biopsy whilst I was in ICU! He's lucky he's still got them at all!