What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Discussion forum for those particularly interested in IVF and embryo transfer including frozen embryo transfer.
Locked
margi26
Valued Contributor
Posts: 1110
Joined: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:03 pm
Location: NC

What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by margi26 »

Just wondering what folks know or have been told in regards to taking this as a supplement prior to IVF cycle? I see and hear conflicting information on the internet. Some women have sworn it helped them. I read some data from a NY clinic that stated it is especially beneficial for women with diminished ovarian reserve. It said that they even felt better and more juvenated while taking it as well. Any stories or thoughts either way? :?
Me: 44, endo. & 1 tube due to rupture
DH 36 fine
IVF#1 double ectopic/severe OHSS 12/08
IVF#2 BFN
IVF#3 BFP-->m/c
IUI#1, #2, and #3, 2010 BFN
IVF#4-2/11 HPT=BFP 11dpo; 13dpo=240! 15dpo=653, 20dpo=5522,3/29=u/s-1sac1yolk 4/4=2 HBs!
ImageImage
Sponsor
 
Wensdy
Newbie
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:25 am

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by Wensdy »

I'm also very interested in hearing what anyone has to share about DHEA. I've taken DHEA half-heartedly since June. Half-heartedly coz I'm "self-suplementing" and keep reading differing, conflicting info on it. Some articles have been so positive about it that I ran out and bought it few months back. But now...for the first time in ages ...i have not ovulated and not ovulated 2x in a row even according to ovulation monitor, late periods and very light periods. Now, that said, I am old enough (46) to expect this might start happening anyway- but it seems very coincidental that the month i really upped the DHEA to a full 50mg - 75mg a day then my ovulation would stop. maybe it's a coincidence. I can find nothing online that would suggest that this level DHEA dosage could disrupt a cycle so much. in fact just the opposite. So I'm VERY interested to find out more about it and other ladies' experiences with it. From what I've read DHEA could be one amazing supplement for older women and DOR too. Hope So...this no ovulation is freaking me out. Day 15 and nothing and I have been monitoring it for over 18 months.
Ghost
Board Veteran
Posts: 4150
Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 5:01 pm

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by Ghost »

I'm starting to think there probably is some benefit to DHEA in some patients, but I wish the studies were better.

There has been a recent prospective randomized trial (the best kind of study) of testosterone pre-treatment in women getting ready for IVF. The summary is found here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20801436

DHEA just might act similarly. My understanding is that some DHEA is converted to testosterone.
Avoid IVF and surrogacy in Ukraine. Ukrainian centers pay shills to post here under numerous sock accounts pretending to be patients in Ukraine. Centers using such deceptive advertising cannot be trusted and should be avoided.
summit
Regular
Posts: 113
Joined: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:45 am

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by summit »

In my research most sites have recommended that you if you are taking DHEA you should inform your doctor so your hormone levels can be monitored, especially if you have begun injections for an IVF cycle. I am guessing that elevated hormone levels could impact ovulation. The clinic I work with did a study on the use of DHEA and found no real merit to using the supplement.
Summit 34
DH 31

1st IVF May 2010 Negative
2nd IVF July 2010 Negative
3rd IVF January 2011 Negative
Ghost
Board Veteran
Posts: 4150
Joined: Mon May 29, 2006 5:01 pm

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by Ghost »

summit wrote:In my research most sites have recommended that you if you are taking DHEA you should inform your doctor so your hormone levels can be monitored, especially if you have begun injections for an IVF cycle. I am guessing that elevated hormone levels could impact ovulation. The clinic I work with did a study on the use of DHEA and found no real merit to using the supplement.
I don't see any purpose in taking it during an IVF cycle. If it's going to make any difference, it would need to be long before.

The purpose is to get more primordial follicles to become antral follicles. Only antral follicles can respond to FSH. But it takes 1-2 months for a primordial follicle to become an antral follicle. Seems to me, DHEA is not something that is going to benefit you during during the IVF cycle (stimulation).
Avoid IVF and surrogacy in Ukraine. Ukrainian centers pay shills to post here under numerous sock accounts pretending to be patients in Ukraine. Centers using such deceptive advertising cannot be trusted and should be avoided.
lilmd
Regular
Posts: 146
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:48 pm
Contact:

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by lilmd »

I think that you are supposed to take it for a few months before a cycle... I have a link to an article about this on my blog on the top left side under articles. A few years ago DHEA was being shrugged off in IF but it seems to be getting more and more press.

http://thehopefuljourney.blogspot.com/
riogirl71
Valued Contributor
Posts: 2518
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:10 am
Location: CA, USA

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by riogirl71 »

I have been taking DHEA for a couple of mos. On my first IVF my right ovary produced 2 follies. On the second IVF it produced 1 follie. I was never told on those what my antral count was. After taking DHEA for 2 mos, my antral US showed 3 follicles on right ovary - the lazy one! I have been feeling better and sleeping better. My cycle is still 28 days on the spot and heavy bleeding just as a teenager. So I personally think it might be helping. I plan to stop it this week since I start meds next week and like Ghost said the benefit would be before the cycle and not during.
me 39 + DH 46 low mot - chemo
#3 IVF Lost one twin at 8 wks
Image
#2 IVF May 2010 Ectopic
#1 IVF
Image
lilmd
Regular
Posts: 146
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:48 pm
Contact:

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by lilmd »

I just came across a study using DHEA. Here is the link.. http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT0 ... ure&rank=8
Lilly
http://thehopefuljourney.blogspot.com/
www.facebook.com/myhopefuljourney
riogirl71
Valued Contributor
Posts: 2518
Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:10 am
Location: CA, USA

Re: What is the deal with DHEA? Helpful? Waste?

Post by riogirl71 »

My Re recommended 25 mg 3 times a day.
me 39 + DH 46 low mot - chemo
#3 IVF Lost one twin at 8 wks
Image
#2 IVF May 2010 Ectopic
#1 IVF
Image
Locked