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bina
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Post by bina »

Hi everyone,
Caz, I'm confused about the pessaries as well - I finished them ages ago (few days after day 12 PG test), so why are you and gem still on them? Any particualr reason or just your clinic's practice? Those pessaries definitely gavev me a funny tummy; not just bloated, but actually really swollen and big 'love-handly' type tummy (not like normal), so certainly a big difference. But since stopping the pessaries it's got better. Now I've just got a 'sticky-out' bit and keep the button of all trousers open....re swimming I thought the only reason not to go swimming in the first 2WW is to avoid infection, but it's OK after that? What do I know though?
Well done on your scheme on the drinking front! I'm amazed that worked! At the BBQ last night I just said I was on antibiotics for an infection on my back, because the guys we saw are also in the same tennis club as us and I have to also come up with reasons why I can't play...not sure they bought the story though because I didn't actually look very injured...oh well - bring on week 12 and it can all be out in the open.
Gem, thanks for your concern, only had one well-cooked sausage and only veggie stuff apart from that....! Well done on all the ironing - I've still got that to look forward to today! How is your cold? Are you feeling any better? Hope it's going anyway!
So here's a question for all of you? How do you deal with flying? My boss (who knows about IVF and our +ve) has been really understanding and supoprtive so far, but she now sort of insists on me going on a few business trips to Europe, which (to be fair) is part of my job. Somehow I feel really scared though and don't really want to risk it, especially at the beginning. Maybe between weeks 12 and 24 would be the 'safest'? What do you all think? Am I just being paranoid, which wouldn't be a first...?
Happy Sunday to all of you - enjoy symptoms and everything else.
Love,
bina
ttc 2.5 yrs
endometriosis treated May 2003
IVF Apr 2004 +ve: Lucy was born 27.12.04
2nd IVF Jan06 +ve; EDD 30th October 2006 - feeling sooo lucky and praying for a healthy delivery!!!

me 36 yrs; DH 46 yrs
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zeena12
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Post by zeena12 »

Hi Everyone!

I'm amazed that all of you find time to post, I'm really slow at typing and just can't keep up. I'm taking some time out from boring old housework to do this - Gem I just finished my ironing too, until next week-end...!

Bina, I have the same thing - sticky out belly, I was leaving my top botton undone, but finally got around to getting a couple of trousers which are more roomy around the waist. Thank goodness. It makes a huge difference to comfort. I haven't had any sickness, nothing at all, or disrupted sleep. But I'm taking Prednisolone (a steroid) for NK cells and this actually is supposed to make you feel more awake. So maybe any tiredness I would have had is off set by that. I'm still on the pessaries aswell. AND I have to take Heparin which is the WORST :x injection I have ever had - it is SOOO painful. Is anyone else on Heparin or Prednisolon??

Flying was a concern of mine too, but I think the risk of DVT is less if it's a short flight (?Europe) and also you walk around, and drink lots. During my first IVF cycle when I got to 7 weeks, I had to take a long haul flight (9 hours) and the doctor told me to get 'flight socks' which are very unattractive but apparantly keep circulation going...! Ask your clinic about that, or even your GP.

Caz, I've already done 3 HPT's so I know what it's like. Try not to worry, a blue line is a blue line - as long as it's THERE it's positive!!!

I wanted your advice about excercise. I remember reading your earlier posts and I have exactly the same concerns. Before the IVF I was doing quite a bit of excersise, some running and step aerobics. But I've stopped all together and don't want to do anything which will cause harm. I did nothing during the 2ww, and yesterday I went for a long walk with DH. But I really want to start a routine to keep my fitness level from dropping completely. I'm at a total loss as to what's safe. Do you think that maybe low impact and resistance is too much? I really dislike swimming, but if it's the only thing then I'll do it. How long do you swim for??

Also, does anyone know the rules about sex? I was too embarrased :oops: to ask the clinic. I know it'll come up sometime so I need to be prepared with some answeres.

Gem, good luck for Wednesday, I hope the next few days pass quickly for you.

Love,
Zeena
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Post by caz1 »

Hi ladies!
am taking pessaries on standard advice of clinc for up to 12 weeks (praying to god I get there).

Hi Zeena - re exercise - am just doing swimming (about 45 minutes) - actually much better exercise than I expected and really quite enjoyable -even though I'm rubbish (i think the worse you are the better the exercise!) am also going on the cross trainer as I figure its very low impact but makes me feel like I'm doing something. I train witha really sweet girl once a week and she had a baby last year and think you shouldnt really do weights for first trimester - but ABSOLUTE:Y everyone tells you something different
I think basic rules are keep your heart beat below 140 (invest in a heart rate monitor they are FAB!) and drink lots and avoid over heating -then its fine
Havent done any abs for a month - just doesnt feel like the right thing to do -probably explains the pot belly!! :-)

I am so sad about TRaci and Staci today - I really thought they'd be with us - just goes to show what a lottery it is.

Well - I am off to do a bit of exercise now -as have done NOTHING but eat and sleep today!!!! Gem good luck for wednesday - I have a blood test again on Wednesday - don't have my scan until the Wednesday after.

Do any of you girls know what the chances are of NOT seeing a heart beat at 7 week scan? My HCG levels have been going up as they should be and am just praying that on Wednesday they will have gone up again )
VERY VERY scared about the scan though. :shock: :shock:

Take care all
Cazxx
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Post by gem »

Hi Mum to be's !!!!!!!!
Soz if I confused you all about pessaries and swimming,I thought you wouldnt be allowed to swim as they tell you not to have any baths as it breaks down the pessarie and it doesnt work as good so I thought if baths werent allowed then swimming wouldnt be as you are getting wet the same I am prob wrong as I usually am,so soz if I've worried you all.
My clinic told me to cut down to one pessarie after we tetsed and after your 1st scan they might tell you to stop or it might be the scan after that it depends on what the dr thinks.
I'm so glad its sun only mon and tuesday to go I'm getting nervous about it now what if there something wrong,but I'm trying to stay positive as I keep thinking I wouldnt have had bleeding or pains if there was.
My nose is running alot and my acupunturist wasnt happy that I'd got the cold as she said it wasnt good this early on with the devolpment NOT what I wanted to hear but I think chinese people think different,shes gave me some tea to stop the cold,but I work at a bloody special needs school and the weathers changed so I dont think that as helped,I do tend to get cold easy so I'm not going to worry too much about it.
Bina glad you had a good BBQ the antibotics is a very good excuse I used it when I was out with work on Fri.
Caz you made me laugh about your dh and drinking,you should have used the antibotic excuse and save your dh from a massive hangover :lol:
Hi Zeena dont know about the sex i asked on an earlier tread alot say wait until 12weeks but Tracey said her clinc said it was ok after her 1st scan,I'm going to ask on weds as we are getting frustrated It been over a month,but if we cant til 12 weeks we will manage as it will be worth it in the end and whats another 6 weeks when youve got your miracle.
Missing dh like mad but the time is actually going quick.
I have still got to do some more ironing tonight I didnt finish it only managed a hour while watching eurovision-oh my god did anyone else watch it? it hasnt changed still very politcal.
Cant belive the weather today its been lovley I've actually got a skirt on which thankfully I bought a few weeks ago and its abit big for me so it was very comfy.
Hi to everyone else.
Love gemxxxx
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Post by Tania »

Hi

Now I am very worried.

This question aobut sex. I thought it would be ok but then straight afterwards I started worrying. Now I have read your threads and I don't have my scan till 27th. I read in a pregnancy book it was ok but that was in a 'normal' pregnancy though.

Plus today I fell through a deckchair! I was sitting in it and the wood snapped. ( I didn't think I had put on that much weight!) So now I am paranoid as I banged my back quite hard.

I don't know how I can wait for another 10 days for the scan.

ahhhh

Tania
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Post by Tracey S »

OMG you lot - I nearly went in to labour reading this lot - chuckling and sighing over all the questions - so soon I forget what I was like.

Some potted answers at these twins are kicking the what nots out of me
Pessaries - they are bastards (sorry DR Marcus) but they are!!!! Some clinics stop them straight away and some continue to about 9-12 weeks pg! There is not evidence to suggest they are needed anyway and I mean at all!!! your bodies will already be producing it's own progesterone so don't worry about swimming and baths - nothing will be washed away - the progesterone pessaries are absorbed immediately and you are only losing the wax and as you don;t want to be candles.......... :lol: This excess progesterone can give you wind, upset tummies and flaming bloatedness - it will go down when you stop them
Sex - fine after your first scan - one of you mentioned normal pg - you are now a normal pg - there is no difference between IVF and normal pg's now - we finally are normal and work the same!!! IF you have a history of m/c or anything else - cervix problems then ask first please!

Hair dye is fine - don't worry about it or if you are worried just have highlights but really it's fine - I do - need to cover the grey!!!

Fake tan is fine too - no harm in it and makes you feel better.
What else was there - oh yes flying - the safest time they say is 2nd trimester but flying any time is fine as long as you are sensible - air hostesses don;t suddenly pack in their jobs do they? I wore those most attractive DVT socks and drank plenty and kept moving and rotating my ankles like a loony!
Exercise - no triathlons or weights or skiining or dangerous things - carry on as before if you have been and if not try light walking or some yoga for pg ladies - no weird stretching or swimming - you are fine.

Think that covers it - oh yes chances are you will get a hearbeat at 7 weeks but some do not and there is nothing wrong - the heart is very small and can be in the wrong position - if there is a yolk sac and the sac is the right size you should be fine.
Good luck you potty luck and enjoy it
Love
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Post by Tania »

Hello again

You said Tracey that sex is fine after the first scan, well I have had sex and I haven't had the first scan yet. BUt now I have decided to wait because it has made me too paranoid. I have now told DP I can't but before it was me telling him it had been too long!

I really hope I haven't done any damage

love Tania
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Post by bina »

Hi fellow worriers!
Well, early Monday morning and I'm really down, because feel actually totally normal: boobs little enlarged, but not painful anymore, tummy gone down a bit, not as sticky-out and no sickness (felt vaguely ill first thing in the morning over last 4 days) ...so now absolutely scared I've got one of those 'vanishing m/c', when the emby just disappears (read about it in my pregnancy book). No other symptoms.
Sorry to be so negative, but am really scared now, how can you go from having symptoms to suddenly losing them?
And it's still 8 days until the next scan. How am I going to last until then?

Tracey, thanks so much for your words of wisdom - much appreciated!
Zeena, Caz, Gem, Tania - please don't get scared by my paranoia and worrying, just needed to let off steam somewhere....!
So praying it's all going to work out...! Might do another HPT later, just to be on the safe side....?
Cheers,
bina
ttc 2.5 yrs
endometriosis treated May 2003
IVF Apr 2004 +ve: Lucy was born 27.12.04
2nd IVF Jan06 +ve; EDD 30th October 2006 - feeling sooo lucky and praying for a healthy delivery!!!

me 36 yrs; DH 46 yrs
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Post by zeena12 »

Ooooh Tracey!! THANK you for all your advice - I definately feel more confident about making the right choices about sex, excercise, swimming etc. You just don't realize how complicated it is until you get there!!!

Bina, please don't worry, your body is probably just adapting to the new situation and your decrease in symptoms is probably just a sign of your body coping particularly well!! Just keep lots of positive thought going!

Gem, I stopped seeing my acupunturist after EC (I actually found the sessions quite uncomfortable, I don't like needles anyway) but tomorrow I'm trying out a reflexologist who came highly recommended by a girl I work with. Are you taking any chineese teas too??

Caz, 45 minutes seems like a lot!! I don't think i could manages even 20, but I'll try. I must start doing something. I'll stay away from any aerobics, and weights, but I've got an old Yoga video I'll take a look at some time.

I hope Traci and Staci are OK, it seems strange without them on this board. I think Traci will do one more test today so maybe there is still a chance for her :idea: I hope so.

Zeena :D
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Post by Tracey S »

BINA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

Get on here and what do I find................ You!!!!!!!!! :roll:
Get some birch twigs out and flail yourself naked whilst chanting I must not be paranoid!!!!
I was the same :lol: BAsically it is your body adjusting - it is so annoying and worrying though. At this stage all we have to go on are symptoms and if there are none or disappear we worry. Mine did the same - my boobs were not sore but managed after getting the cheese grater out to have sensitive nipples!!! :lol: Was not being sick etc but then suddenly a few days later bam!!!! Empty sac syndrome is very rare so please try and put it to the back of your mind.
Tania you have done no damage at all - we started before our scan this last time and at the scan saw the twins. There is nothing too much that can happen so try not to worry - do what you are happy with at this stage as you want no regrets either way if this makes sense..........
As for the rest of you - well done - definate signs of improvement so I expect to see you all this week having sex, exercising, having baths and swimming and fake tanning it and dying hair
Love
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Tracey - please will you be my new mummy?! You are wonderful - dont know WHAT I would do without your wise words.
Bina - I am SO with you in the paranoia stakes - mad tweeks in stomach which does NOT feel like the great streching the books talk about. And really worryingly - my boobs have gone down an inch (yes ladies I am measuring daily!! :shock: ) - so now i really am quite worried about this. Because in my head I'm thinking - it can be a sign of miscarriage that the symptoms go away before you bleed. Yup its official I am ALL OVER THE PLACE.

Basically feeling grouchy, tired and headachey - am just so tired of worrying all the time - sorry to moan - believe me I know how lucky I am just to have gotten this far - but I just feel a bit wretched today. Am desperate to get to scan to (please please) see a heart beat. Like you am SO scared that there might be nothing there.

Tracey you say thats rare? I LOVE you for saying that by the way - I had no idea how common or rare it was - I'm kind of expecting a 50/50 chance of a heart beat? Do you know something I dont (thats an easy one to answer!)

Would just be nice to have SOME identifiable symptoms before then!!
HAving bloods done tomorrow - so I guess that will tell me something (good hopefully)

Really amazing how much I can go on about myself isnt it?!?!! :D

PLEASE PLEASE lets change the record - how are you guys feeling.....by the way Tania put the sex thing out of your mind -i read somewhere that if it were to have any impact you'd know about it straight way. And falling off your deck chair - again forget it - my doctor told me that the embie is like a pea floating in honey - you can really shake it around but it doesnt really move or get hurt at all..

can I ask....is anyone still knicker checking quite alot????

Hey gem - not long now until your scan!! Good luck!

Cazxx
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Post by Tracey S »

Caz

New Mummy hey? As if not enough on my plate with twins and a mad 7 month old dog!!!
Empty sac syndrome - ie not seeing a heartbeat (and don;t quote me on this please) I think is 1% of cases. Caz the chances of you seeing your little one and it being fine are over 90% - certainly loads over 50%.
As for shrinking boobs - this can be a number of reasons - the body will settle down slightly first and not every one grows big melons you know. My friend went the whole way through with them not hurting and never growing at all :shock:
The twinges are fine and normal - you won;t get too many stretch pains yet as only have a little cashew nut in there but they will come. I slipped on a piece of lettuce in the market (don;t ask) and went flat on my back and I was fine. They are robust little sods because it they weren't the human population would not have got very far would it.
As for you other symptoms disappearing Caz - I don't think so - I mean grumpy, headaches, grouchy etc - what do you call these - these are all classic signs! I know it's a long wait and hell on earth - I found it worse than the 2ww but worrying is not going to help at all so go and enjoy some sunshine (and no you lot you won't roast them!) and soon you will be smiling and posting telling us how many heartbeats you saw and asking how to stop feeling sick all the time!
Love
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Tracey, will you adopt me as well, please?
Haven't spent a minute NOT worrying today - it's just all-consuming!
I wouldn't mind so much if I had not had ANY symptoms to start with, but having had sore boobs, some sickness, etc and THEN losing it just seems so odd - I'm with Caz, is it just a sign of m/c until the bleeding starts?
Caz - yes, knicker checking going on quite a lot actually! (wouldn't have volunteered this, but as you're asking....). Constantly checking there's no blood or anything elsev that shouldn't be there...!
Well, I don't even go anywhere near exercise for sheer paranoia and sex is on the backburner too (think got DH actually convinced it might be dangerous, bless!).
Anyway, got to go now - bought some HPTs and will do one with Dh tonight....fingers crossed again and again and again and again and again!
Sorry to be moaning, hope tomorrow will be better - maybe I should just stuff my face so I'll get naturally sick...!
Soz - just ignore me,
bina
ttc 2.5 yrs
endometriosis treated May 2003
IVF Apr 2004 +ve: Lucy was born 27.12.04
2nd IVF Jan06 +ve; EDD 30th October 2006 - feeling sooo lucky and praying for a healthy delivery!!!

me 36 yrs; DH 46 yrs
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Bina - I love your messages - they make me feel like I'm not alone in the funny farm!!

Tracey - I just love you, fullstop!! :) Please feel free to ask any of us girls any advice , ha ha ha ha!!!!! :lol: Seriously - please do tell us a bit about youat the moment !! Its inspirational!

Speak tomorrow (or perhaps latter as I'm on my own tonight, therefore too much time to worry wart)

ps- since I'm on , I may as well talk just a BIT more about myself :lol: , twingey pains where ovaries are (I think), both sides -not really painful, just sort of "twingey". Boobs not really hurting at all now. anyway - thats the excitement of my life!!

Cazxx
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Hi Guys I love this tread its keeping me insane (Just!!!)

Gald to see caz and bina are worrying about lack syptoms as I am as well,I havent any sickness at all,but thankfully my boobs are still veiny and are more tender tonight I've had to take my bra off,wish dh was here to do it but thats another story :lol: Talking about that lets get on to sex I'm going to ask the clinc on what they think but I know we will find it hard as hes been away for 5 days but we will try and contain ourselves until after the scan,I'm getting really nervous about the scan I want it to be here but I'm scared there will be nothing there,but I'm doing my best to stay positive.
Tracey soz but I think you will have to adopt me as well,what are we all going to do when you go off to give birth to your lovely girls?
Tania stop worrying along as theres no bleeding I think its fine.
My belly is getting bigger by the day but as the miracle is the size of a peanut I think I must just be fat,surely I cant be putting weight on this quick?!
Just had a lovely 29minute phone call from dh,he said when he see's families with a child he wants it to be us next year,hes ready to be a
family man,plus hes realized that hes too old for stag do's esp this long.
Has anyone else had really bad back ache mine keeps coming and going but today its been constant,its really low down on the top of my bum if this "normal" it aches more as the day wore on today at work.
Well I'l have to do abit more ironing as I didnt do any last night.
Two more sleeps to go :lol: :D :lol: :D
Hi to everyone else I havent mentioned,Dagny's been abit quiet hope everything went ok at the clinic.
Love Gemxxxx
I think I'm 7 weeks tomorrow :lol:
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