Fall 2010 Cycle Group

[Lauren]

I have bad news....I really dont know why this happens to me!

Out of the 7 eggs..6 were mature and they ICSI them all and ONLY 1 Fertilized...1 did abnormally and the rest didnt! The other immature one matured overnight so they will hopefully ICSI today.

I am really upset! I know it only takes one...but How does that happen? Only me

[Meinemo]

Hey PIO girls,

Are your hips sore? Mine are so bruised and sore. My right one has almost like a knot (though a small one).

Yes, this is normal. You can try heating pads to get rid of those knots, but I think you just wait it out. I'm still sore, and I haven't been taking the shots for days, now.

[Amesy]

Lauren: Huge Hug ......I was gutted when I only got 6 eggs and only two fertilised. I was only allowed one put back due to my age. It so disappointing and knocks your feet out from under you. Stay strong you have one little embie and like you say you only need one and thats the one!!!
Thinking of you

[margi26]

Lauren: Aw...crap. But do I understand right...one is fertilized and they may be able to ICSI the other? So you may end up with 2 to transfer? I will hope and pray that that is the case for you.

Nancy: yes. You are a human pincushion at this point. The heating pads to the buttocks helped me some when I did PIO as Meinemo suggested. Hang in there and remember it is for a good cause.

Meinemo: Sorry AF is in force....ugh...like insult to injury. And I can relate to the crying spell. All part of the process that is this journey. Thanks for your little soap box there. You are so right. This takes a lot out of us, but we must carry on--as the "Champions". The beta will "set me free" of this unknown status--one way or the other--hopefully. In just 2 more days.

AFM: Crashing a bit today with low PMA... Work stinks right now and I can't even concentrate. No double line this morning with FMU--and I held it for 6 hrs Sonya!--sigh. This may not be my cycle. I know there is still hope given I am only 10 dpo...but for some reason I am just being kicked by Crazytown today. I just want to cry. Sorry to be negative right now, I just needed to try to get some of it off my chest. This is so hard. Some days are easier than others.

[NancyB]

AFM: Crashing a bit today with low PMA... Work stinks right now and I can't even concentrate. No double line this morning with FMU--and I held it for 6 hrs Sonya!--sigh. This may not be my cycle. I know there is still hope given I am only 10 dpo...but for some reason I am just being kicked by Crazytown today. I just want to cry. Sorry to be negative right now, I just needed to try to get some of it off my chest. This is so hard. Some days are easier than others.

I'm so sorry. This is exactly I'm scared to test right now. If it's BFN my PMA will go south quick -- honestly, it's already headed south for no reason really. No symptoms right now and I know that that's normal or common anyway. blah blah blah You know the deal. Remember it's still early. I can't remember your ET day (or were you IUI?) Either way I can't remember your "day" but I know even for me it's only 7dp5dt. Lots of ladies don't get BFP on HPT until beta morning. Hang in there!!!!!!

ETA: Well DUH on me. I should have read better. You're only 10dpo. See it is still so early! Hang in there!!!!!!!!

Nancy

[klinger13]

Lauren - Oh hun, I'm so sorry you're going through this!! Praying that the second one fertilizes and you get two wonderful embies to transfer back. And if not, we'll be pulling for your one strong embie to keep on growing. Lots of HUGS Lauren!!

Meinemo - I hope AF eases up on you soon. It's hard enough to go through the pain of a BFN, but to have an extra crappy AF afterwards is just salt in the wound. You have a wonderful (and right on the mark) attitude about this process and I'm so glad you joined us on this thread! I really hope you can move on to your FET really soon so we can cheer you on again!

Margi - I'm so sorry you're feeling down. I'm hoping and praying Thursday's beta brings you great news!! And 10 dpo is really early - when we were trying naturally I normally didn't get a BFP until at least 12dpo and even then it was faint.

Nancy - Try to keep that PMA going North instead of South. I have a feeling Friday's beta is going to bring you wonderful news so just hang in there girl!!

Amesy - That's right, only 3 more sleeps for you and for Nancy!

[Osi]

Fellow girls in waiting - we are nearly there, all we can do is hope that this is our time. I keep wondering is this a sign, twinge here, cramp there. Maybe I am feelin hot and bothered because it's a sign. Enough all ready, 8th hurry up and come. This is torture!

Lauren - I am soo sorry, chin up and let's pray second one fertilise and they both make it to 3 day.

Afm, I am counting the days to the end of my waiting pain. Feel like I want to cry at moments I am sooo stressed and upset. One thing, i am going to do is stopping reading the 2ww website, it's making me jealous and worse.

[rypell1985]

I know I haven't done personals, but I also know I can come on here to ***** without judgement...so here I go.

I am continuing the Lupron, 20u twice a day at least until Thursday when I have an appt with another RE. I will see what he says and go from there.

But in the meantime....my sister tells me that she is 7 weeks pregnant (unwed and unplanned) and that she is getting married on NYE. She would like me to be her maid of honor and then the godmother to her baby. Of course I am thrilled for her...but can't help feeling that it's just a little jealous. If my FET didn't get pushed AGAIN I might now be so down. At least I get to be an auntie, right?

Lou...You said something about your cycle, but I'm not sure if our issues are the same. At my first suppression check my lining was too thick and my E2 was fine. This time my lining is fine but my E2 is high. I don't know what the heck that means!

Thanks all for being good listeners!

[crystal335]

All done with the transfer! It's an amazing feeling the relief I feel having them back where they belong. Thanks for all of the thoughts, guys.

[lou71]

Lauren -- I'm so sorry! I know how upset you are but you're right... it DOES only take one. Many ladies get preggo on single embryo transfers so I'm praying your embie is perfect. And wouldn't it be wonderful if you get a second one too!

Osi -- How are you holding out? I've got a good feeling for you esp since you had such a huge crop of eggs!

Crystal -- Congrats on being PUPO! Now stay out of CrazyTown OK?

Ryann -- I'm not sure either. With me, I took Lupron 10 units for a couple of weeks and went in and had a high E2 and a cyst forming. So my Lupron was increased to 20 units for another week and I went back. Got the OK to start Estrogen and went for a lining check a week later. Lining was good but the cyst was now 18mm and of course my E2 was high because I was on estrogen now too. RE thought I was going to ovulate right through the Lupron so I started on PIO that night and transferred 5 days later since my P4 level was low showing I hadn't ovulated yet. My transfer was moved up 8 days. I still would ask your RE about a natural cycle FET since Lupron isn't supressing you. Read here http://www.advancedfertility.com/fet-cycle.htm.

Margi -- My fingers are still crossed for you. It's too early to give up hope.

Nancy -- That's how I am... I don't POAS because of how bad I feel when it's negative. I did on my first cycle and it was BFN. All the negative HPT's really bummed me out. Then people told me I could still get a positive beta, so I thought "what's the point of feeling this bad when it's not really over until negative by blood test". To top it off, a positive HPT only tells you you've got HCG present, it doesn't tell you a number. I've seen too many girls get a positive HPT then go tell everyone they are pregnant only to end up with a chemical, blighted ovum, ectopic, etc. I'm a big fan of waiting for the beta or at least waiting until beta day to POAS. Good luck to you... I really do think your chances are excellent.

Meinemo -- Ah... the AF after BFN is horrible! I feel for you. And you're definitely allowed to cry. I'm so sorry this didn't work out for you this time. But you're right, persistance pays off. That's what I keep telling myself anyway! Ha!

Amesy -- Yes and last night I couldn't even sleep because I kept thinking of all the natural preggos around me and getting upset by it. My first appt with RE was July 1, 2009... so I've had nothing but IVF on my brain for 1.5 years. It's agonizing. Not to mention the 2+ years of trying hard on our own beforehand only to have disappointment month after month. It shouldn't be this hard.

AFM -- So I've got two months to wait for my next IVF cycle because of a business trip Dec 5th-10th. Maybe it will work out since I now have time for the DHEA I'm taking to work. In the meantime, I'm tracking my cycle and trying like hell the natural way. This morning I started to see a faint second line on the OPK... so hopefully that means I will surge in the next 1-2 days. I keep fantasizing how wonderful it would be to fall pregnant on my own after 4 years of trying and 5 failed ET's. I know the odds aren't with me, but I still hope.

Question for you all ---- Did anyone (besides Rio) do an Estrogen Priming protocol? If so, would you mind sharing your calendar with me? My RE doesn't do it but is willing to do what I want but I don't know what to ask for. Thanks!

[riogirl71]

Lauren - WTF! So sorry hun, did they say the eggs looked good? Did they ever say there was an egg quality issue? Have you thought of doing DHEA? Different protocol, how is your clinic, is it pretty good, time for a new RE? I am so sorry hun!!! Huge hugs. Praying your one embie will make it!

Ryann- how frustrating to hear that, I am sure you are happy for your sister but I know this hurts. I had a friend who knows we are doing IVF say "it was almost too easy for us to get pregnant so it is better you went through IVF and you were more ready to have a baby" I know she meant well, but WTF? I would trade that in a second for getting pregnant too easily! Vent all you want.

crystal - congrats on being PUPO and welcome to crazytown!

Osi - all completely normal, if crying makes you feel better, knowck yourself out. This is very stressful and you have all those emotions inside of you, many conflicting and you need to try as hard as you can to keep your PMA and think there is a little baby in there!

Klinger - official beta almost here, I can't wait to see your #s!

Nancy how are you holding up? Sorry you have to go through crazytown to get to babytown but it is worth it!

Margi - group hug for you we are all here praying for your BFP, it could still be early and even if you are pregnant you can get a flase negative so take those HPTs with a huge grain of salt. Don't be sorry for being negative, you are scared and anxious and you went through so much, it is totally normal. It is hard and vent anytime. Try to visualize your baby and keep a little PMA, I am here fingers crossed for your BFP, my fingers will cramp they are crossed so hard for you!

babyblu - glad you are feeling better from OHSS, yes it is never ending stress! You will be there soon watching your baby's heartbeat, and crying like a baby from sheer happiness! That will be the most wonderful sound you will ever hear until you hear him/her crying as they are born, your heart melts and you will be there in 30 something weeks!

karin - thanks - I figure the blinkies add some color and fun to the post! you are getting so close!


Amesy - those days drag by! You will get your BFP soon I am very excited for you!

Meinemo - are you happy with your clinic? Have you checked their success rates? I see you are my age and I have been taking DHEA and CoQ10 so maybe you can take a break and get ready for a new cycle? Sorry this is hard. What meds were you in? Did you have low antral follicle count? Sorry to ask so much but I had a quack RE and got lucky having my son but then I realized I could do much better!

Lou - I was reading another post that said that before DHEA she had one or two huge leading follie and that happened to me too at first but not now, plus my RE added Femara. Hope your pup is ok. Try posting a new thread on protocol or asking Ghost... On DHEA it worked great to start natural with no rpiming or anything, my last cycles I did the patches and BCP.

Tammy - can't wait for the news and congrats on being PUPO if you have time can check out my post with follicle size and tell me what you think? Much love girl!

AFM - I need your "grow follicle dust" since I go for another SnS tomorrow morning! Lots of follicles close together!!!

[Lauren]

Rio-yed WTF?!?! thats what ive been saying all day! They never once said there was anything wrong with my eggs..last cycle when i only got 2 eggs both fertilized..she said all 6 of the 7 were mature?? We have male infertility so idk

lou- yes i did! Estrogen started on day 20 of cycle then AF followed by baseline and stims:)

[Cheri76]

It's been a while since I posted because there hasn't been much to say. However, I have been following along sporadically and silently cheering you all on. It is so hard to wait, wait, and wait some more while watching everyone move along so quickly!

Now that I have been given the green light to start stimming I took the chance to re-read through the entire thread of this very active board to get caught up. It took forever, but I am glad I did because you have so much information and so much PMA in this fabulous group!! There are quite a few of you who participate frequently to keep everyone's spirits up and I love that!!

Margi - I have been reading your posts on a couple of different boards and it is AMAZING how much of yourself that you give up to keep others positive. I am hoping and praying that you get your very well deserved BFP because there is no doubt that you would be a FABULOUS mother.

Klinger - thank you so much for maintaining and keeping me on the list even when I went MIA. The list is invaluable for keeping everyone together and congratulations on your BFP!!! So happy for you!

Ryann - I feel for you because I went through the same issues with Lupron. That stuff is awful and makes everyone on it just crazy with the headaches and mood swings. I also had a hard time with suppression this cycle and just got the go ahead to start stims after more than 3 weeks on it. I'm praying that it turns into the best cycle for you and that after this ordeal you have smooth sailing and a positive result!!

Esther - Happy Birthday!

Lou - I may have some extra meds depending on what happens with this cycle. By the looks of it, I will have extra follistim and a couple vials of menopur if they don't increase my dosage significantly.

Tammy - I hope that everything works for you this time around and that your transfer goes well.

Meinemo - I love your spirit and the positive attitude. Keeping your spirits up through this process can become the biggest challenge of them all and its great to see you cheering everyone on while you are dealing with your own heartache.

AFM - I start 5 units lupron and 75 iui menopur in the mornings and 225 iui follistim in the evenings starting today. Its the first time I have ever been on menopur so I am hoping for better results then my first fresh when only 4 fertilized out of 12 eggs retrieved. The first injection this morning was a little more burning then I am used to so at least I know its working. LOL! Has anyone had any success with menopur that they didn't see with follistim alone? I typically stim for about 10 days so I am looking at a retrieval by the end of next week if all goes according to plan.

Congrats to all the BFP's on this board and good luck to all those waiting for transfers and beta results in the next couple of days. I will try to be a more consistently active member of this group and offer more than just silent support over the next couple of weeks.

[klinger13]

rio - I'm doing the "Grow Follies Grow at Consistent Rates Dance" for you now!!

Cheri - Thanks and so glad to hear from you! I don't blame you for being MIA for awhile...it's really hard waiting and waiting and waiting for your turn to start. But YAY for starting stims today!!! I'll move you down on tomorrow's list and I'll start doing the follie dance for you too!

[DandMe]

Quick at work post... had another beta today. If doubling from.... 16dpo

14 DPO 138
16 DPO 351
18 DPO 702
20 DPO 1404
21 DPO 2106 <<<---- Today Nov 2nd
22 DPO 2808

Does that seem right? I should be at least 2000? Ugh. I am glad I did it but wary of the results now!!