Fall 2010 Cycle Group

[Osi]

Tammy, so sorry, getting a bfn is hard enough without family issues adding to the pain.

Klingar, my clinic advised that they have a 92% thawing success rate, as we only want one baby (two only if it occurs), I would rather not have any left frozen to have to make the decision to let them die in the future.

Afm, I hope to be starting my fet, once my December af arrives with the transfer in Jan. RE advised that the Emybros they transferred were grade 1 early blasts but the ones frozen on day 6 were grade 4 full blasts, hopefully this would give us a better chance.

[TammyS]

Oh I meant to comment on frozen embryos making the thaw...for those of you who were asking about it. Honestly, all 3 of mine made it just fine. My real life friends...also had ALL of their embryos make the thaw. From several posts on here with people who have talked about doing FET's...I cant remember EVER hearing about anyone losing an embryo in a thaw. Not to say that it doesnt happen here and there...but it is as far as I know...not very common at all...to lose an embryo in the thaw. Also, most clinics will thaw x amount embyros...the amount you plan to transfer...and if 1 should not make it...they can always thaw another one real quick. Mine were thawed the morning of my transfer...approx 5 hours before transfer, I think.

I suggest that someone do a poll on the main IVF board and ask to get a better idea of what thaw rates are...before thawing 5 to get 2 to transfer. Re-thawing is an option, but not recommended...as they dont usually do well when that has to happen. Hope this helps.

[NancyB]

Oh I meant to comment on frozen embryos making the thaw...for those of you who were asking about it. Honestly, all 3 of mine made it just fine. My real life friends...also had ALL of their embryos make the thaw. From several posts on here with people who have talked about doing FET's...I cant remember EVER hearing about anyone losing an embryo in a thaw. Not to say that it doesnt happen here and there...but it is as far as I know...not very common at all...to lose an embryo in the thaw. Also, most clinics will thaw x amount embyros...the amount you plan to transfer...and if 1 should not make it...they can always thaw another one real quick. Mine were thawed the morning of my transfer...approx 5 hours before transfer, I think.

I suggest that someone do a poll on the main IVF board and ask to get a better idea of what thaw rates are...before thawing 5 to get 2 to transfer. Re-thawing is an option, but not recommended...as they dont usually do well when that has to happen. Hope this helps.

Tammy,
This is encouraging to read since I only have one frostie.

Nancy

[babydreamz]

You know that news that I was talking about before...

Well my sister-in-law and also my best friend and my asshole brother are pregnant. They got pregnant on Zach's birthday and we would have been 13 days apart when I miscarried. Becky and I had been wanting to get pregnant together for a very long time...and getting my asshole brother on board has been a chore. We had even been looking at houses in their neighborhood for about a year now...we hate their neighborhood...just so our kids could go to the same schools. The houses are all capes 10 feet from each other...not our style and we want some property to breathe in...but Becky and I had a dream. She went off bcp's back in May and my asshole brother (are you seeing a trend here yet) was slowly getting on board. Asshole brother has an almost 20 yr old girl (he doesnt speak to her...they have been fighting for a couple of years now with me in the middle) and a 10 yr old girl whom he has shared custody with...with a second woman. Becky, whom has become my dearest best friend ever (she's the 3rd mother...poor thing didnt know what she was getting into when she married my asshole brother)...has a 12 yr old and a 9 yr old boy. So they have 4 kids...but they only have 3 that they even acknowledge...they even have the almost 20 yr old blocked on FB. Mind you, my brother and I were inseparable best friends until about this time last year, when things went from bad to worse.

So long story short...he picks yet another fight with me last month when stimming...calling his wife and I a liar ...saying that we went to Baby Gap to go baby shopping ruining the experience for him and wife. We never went there...we went to regular Gap so I could get a couple of polos for Bill's birthday. I reminded him that baby shopping was the last thing on my mind because I had just had a miscarriage...and he calls me a liar again. That is just one example of what he has done and said to me recently...and mostly it is because I am trying to keep a good relationship with his daughter (for his and her sake)...and he is pissed about it.

Needless to say...I am still talking to Becky, but not like we used to...not at all...maybe 1-2x's a week right now. We used to talk/see each other everyday. They live 15 minutes from us right now. Asshole brother wouldnt even let her babysit for me while I went to my SnS appts. She has been pretty good about not hurting my feelings...even though she texted me at 5:50 am waking me up ....to tell me that she went to the hopsital to get fluids because she was sooooo sick...the day after my shity-ass news on the embryos after ET. The poor thing...(said with a little bit of sarcasm)...because I told her repeatedly to go get some meds for the major m/s she was getting and she refused to believe me that it was fine and safe to take (things have changed in 10 yrs)! She never once remembered to even ask me if I made it to ER or even ET. She's been too sick to even get online and see the news on FB.

Fast forward to today. She had her first ob/gyn appt today at 1 day short of 10 weeks...I cant believe she waited that long...but asshole brother HAD to be there. Asshole brother who was told to never text me again after all of the horrible text messages he sent while I was stimming and stressing me out...texts me today right when I am finding out the bad news, to say..."There is a heartbeat!" I sent my SIL a text back since I refuse to indulge him..."Congrats on a great appt. I am soooo happy for you. I just got the official news...not pregnant." My brother...not even 5 minutes later...post his good news on FB...to rub it in my face. Would have been nice if he had waited even 2 hrs...since he knew I would be posting it on FB, as I always do. He waited 10 weeks...what is 2 more hours...just to be considerate? We have many many of the same friends/family. My post..."We are not pregnant"...came in right after his on the "recent news feed". Fucking nice. Yes, I'm open about IVF on FB. Even worse...I'm pretty sure that his 20 yr old daughter...is about to find out now from someone other than them...that they're having yet another baby.

Yep, I need a second glass of wine now. Sorry to rant and write such a long story...but it sure feels good to get it off my chest right now. If you got this far...you all deserve...a great big chocolate chip cookie. Thanks for listening.

I am so sorry, agree with you yr brother does sound like an A***h***. Had 3 Chocolate chip cookie! Take care!

[karenthescorpio]

Tammy- I'm so sorry to hear about the negative. It just sucks. And yes your bro is a rude a$$. Not even a text to say I'm sorry about the negative. Might be a good idea to move to that property for space!!! Sucks you can't pick your family!!!!!

[karenthescorpio]

Tammy- you better not give these people any of your baby clothes. WTF??? Who says you have to? No way Jose! Don't you give her one thread! You have a baby coming again and just bc it isn't before hers doesn't give them a right to it. Man. Your family needs to back off of you. You have been through a lot. And I mean it. Keep your baby clothes!!!!!

[DandMe]

Wow.... I sit around and wait for posts and then when I'm at work it's like a bunch of little sprites posting news when I'm not looking!

Of course, I read every single post... and of course, the information and names get tangled because there is so much to remember.

Lauren - the OHSS sucks hugely and I hope it means you are pregnant and is totally worth it. Don't fret over your line - it's so early it's freaky to have had one at all. Please let me know how you are doing as you have anything to share.

Tammy - I am glad you are like me with the early testing. I've had way, way, way more bfn's than bfp's and it was always good for me, about 11-12 dpo to know that I was going to be let down gently. I'd tell my DH that I didn't think it was gonna be our month this time, so we should plan a date night or buy a favorite bottle of wine to share on the weekend. I detest bad news being given in one ten second phone call. Sorry about your brother - it sounds like he has a few issues that he needs to work on, especially seeing how he seems so totally inconsiderate with those who love him.

Rypell - yay yay yay!! Keep us posted!!!

Kynlee - Sorry you are feeling down, kiddo.... you may be able to see a line if you poas up to three days before your beta. I've seen my own extremely faint (and coaxed!) line at 9dpo but that's rare and i know what I'm looking for. My theory on early testing - knowing the truth does not change the truth.

AFM: was sorely tempted to get another beta today but I didn't. Are you proud of my resolve? My ultimate will to resist? How about that I just feel that what is, is, and that I have had enough good news to sustain me through the weekend. Am I nervous - yes! Am I looking forward to seeing a healthy heartbeat... yes! Am I scared... yep, scared too. I can't count Saturday as a day since it's practically bedtime... so it's Sunday, Monday, Tuesday and then ultrasound. And I get to work all weekend so the days just about FLY by.

[x0Heather0x]

Tammy -- I'm so very sorry about your BFN and the other junk going on as well. Hang in there. It's hard when so many ppl around you are pregnant. I have to give a baby shower on Sunday for my brother and his wife. I'm thrilled for them. The timing of it just sucks with my BFN only 1 week old, you know.

Amanda -- glad you have an answer for all that itching and rash.

Renee -- congrats on your twins!!!!!

Heather -- I am so very, very sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how very painful and difficult all of that has been. Like you I have on embryo remaining. I go in for my post IVF on 11/24 and we'll get plan together then for the FET. I, too, am worried about only having one remaining. I don't even know the grade of my one. I do know it was frozen on day 6 but that's all I know.

Nancy

Nancy- I guess my worry comes from seeing that the average embryos transferred for my age is I think 2 or 3. I transferred 2 blasts grade 4aa and 4ab and both actually took but I lost one at 7 weeks. I guess I have a 50 50 chance? Im not sure of the numbers honestly.

Ive never done a FET so I was wondering if my last period was 10/20/10 and then I had my D&C to remove polyps and ect, when should I expect my next AF? My doctor told me I would start progesterone and estrogen patches? What time frame am I looking at? Ive never seen a FET calendar. Im such a newb! LOL

Thanks for the warm welcome!

[klinger13]

Ester & Cheri - Good luck today at ER! Looking forward to hearing great updates from you both later today!

Karin - How did ED's SnS go yesterday? I'm hoping for lots of good, mature follies from her appt.

Tammy - I agree with Karen, don't give them any of your baby stuff. Just because they're family does not give them the right to shit on you. Your going to need your baby stuff for your BFP this next cycle so screw them - they can get their own baby stuff just like everyone else does.

Lauren - Are you feeling any better? Keep resting and hopefully that OHSS will start to clear soon.

Karen - have you been getting reports on your embies? Hopefully you'll have a good bunch getting to and through PGD!

Karian - How are your embies doing? Are you going in today for a 3-day transfer or they having you wait until Monday for a 5-day? p.s. I'm sorry if you already told us this and I missed it.

AFM, I'm not in a great mood. Last night and this morning I've had cramping and when I had to put in my progesterone suppository last night and this morning, the goop (sorry TMI) that came out on the end of the plunger had some pink in it so it appears I have some spotting going on in there. I know this can be normal, but damn this has always been the sign that bad news was on the way with the last 3 pregnancies. So I'm having a very hard time being the cheerleader to my brain to say this is no big deal. I put in a call to the RE so we'll see what the nurse says when she calls me back.


-hopefullintime (Dee) – Sept/Oct
-yingz - FET Sept
-Sher – FET Sept/Oct
-kbillsy – Sept/Oct
-anacris (Nov)
-Wondercat – in our thoughts
-babidreamz – starting IVM early Oct
-amanda1979 – Waiting until January
-ttg1219 (Tiff) – hysteroscopy 11.19, start Lupron 11.21
-Krys – day 2 b/w & u/s 11.11


-leorira11 – FET, waiting and waiting for AF
-TammyS –
-x0Heather0x - FET


-jenna81078 – BCPs, baseline 11.8
-taxcplforivf (Ginger) – BCPs, waiting for calendar
-lauren1171 – stop BCP 11.14, start stims 11.20, ER approx 12.3
-ChelleDe (Michelle) – start BCP 10.25, start meds approx 11.18 if SnS good
-BakersBaby (Kelly) – start BCPs 11.1, start Lupron 11.18, start stims approx 12/1-12/3


-rypell1985 (Ryann) – start Lupron 10.11, lining check 11.29, FET 12.3
-zen_scrapper – start Lupron 11.10, approx ER 12.7


-karin1 – BCP, start Lupron 10.19, ED starts stims 11.1, ER for ED wknd of 11.13
-margi26 – IUI start stims 11.9


-karenthescorpio – start Lupron 10.17, start stims 10.28, ER 11.9 w/ ET 11.15
-Karian – start stims 10.30, ER approx 11.8, ER 11.10 w/ ET TBD
-moorebaby (Ester) – start Lupron 10.22, start stims 11.2, ER 11.13 w/ ET 11.16, Beta 11.27
-Cheri76 – start stims 11.2, ER 11.13


-Lauren – start stims 10.21, ER 11.1 w/ ET 11.4, Beta 11.15
-kynlee – FET started estrace, u/s 11.1, ET 11.5, Beta 11.16
-annashope – FET 11.3, Beta 11.17
-riogirl71 – start stims 10.27, ER 11.6 w/ ET 11.9, Beta 11.22
-jennieswa – started estrogen patches 10.26, SnS 11.6, FET 11.11, Beta 11.22


-hopeforbabies (Teresa) – ER 9.7, ET 9.10, Beta 9.22 = 276, 9.24 = 534, u/s 10.1 – Twins, Next u/s 10.11 – Singleton
-Tess69 – FET 9.22, Beta 10.1 = 150, 10.6=1066, 10.13 = 15000, u/s 10.26 - Singleton
-macfamily – ER 10.5 w/ ET 10.8, Beta 10.19 = 143, 10.21 = 393, u/s 11.2
-FrecklesDC (Kaylie) – ER 10.12, ET 10.15, Beta 10.26 = 123, 10.28 = 256, u/s 11.4 – Singleton, u/s 11.11 – saw HB
-baby_blu73 – ER 10.13, ET 10.17, Beta 10.26 = 273, 10.28 = 660, u/s 11.4 – Twins, Next u/s 11.17
-DandMe (Sonya) – ER 10.12 w/ ET 10.17, Beta 10.26 = 137.8, 10.28 = 351, 11.2 = 2826, 11.4 = 6060, 11.8 = 19840, u/s 11.17
-klinger13 (Amanda) – ER 10.21 w/ ET 10.24, Beta 11.4 = 266, 11.8 = 1126, 11.11 = 3066, 11.15 = TBD, u/s approx 11.18
-amesy – ET 10.22, BFP 11.5, b/w & u/s 11.25
-crystal335 – start stims 10.16, ER 10.28 w/ ET 11.2, Beta 11.11 = 355

on your journey
-DCRunningMama
-Tiger04
-dvcantu7378 (Victoria)
-turtle0619 (Franny)
-chilipepperrose46
-lauren319
-lou71
-BLang4d (Brandy)
-starwishes
-Anniegirl
-Meinemo
-NancyB
-eyes230
-Osi

Waiting for an update
-dawgs1257 – ER 9.3 w/ ET 9.6, Beta 9.20 - ??
-jla018 – stimming away - ??
-shahney (Alicia) – started stims 9.16 - ??
-coop2010 – start Lupron 9.17, Follistim 10.1, ER approx 10.9, ET approx 10.14 - ??
-carebear77 (Carrie) – ER 10.11, ET ??
-andrea4 – ER 10.10 w/ ET 10.13, Beta TBD ??
-LisaB75 – start Lupron 10.6, start stims 10.23??

[TammyS]

Amanda...I'm not surprised at all that you had light pink blood on the end of the plunger. Suppositories irritate the insides bad. Very very normal. Nothing to worry about at all.

Thanks everyone. It would be extremely rude of me not to loan them my crib, bassinet, boppy, bumbo, swing, glider, bf'ing supplies, travel system, bouncer, exersaucer, etc...especially since they are just sitting in my basement collecting dust. Of course this is only IF I dont get pregnant on this next cycle. They are hoping we get pregnant...since that was the plan...but after I begged them for years to get pregnant so that we would have kids close in age to grow up together...it would just be rude of me...especially since she loaned me a bunch of stuff (lol)...to not help them out...since it was my idea...and my begging that put my brother in this situation...that his wife finally talked him into getting pregnant. See what I mean?

This is for sure our last cycle. In my heart...I feel like we are coming to a end with all of this...and the perfect time is the end of the year. If we dont get preganant...I'd like to start the new year out...as a 3-some...and with a fresh mind and heart on all of this. It just feels right. Besides, since the nurse told me that my benefits are unlimited...I never questioned it further...Bill figured let them work it out later. And, if is only 4 times (ER) after a birth...then this it anyways. I feel good knowing that one way or another...we are moving on. A friend of mine (she's been through IVF)...she told me to think of it as "moving on" rather than "giving up" or "quiting"...since I have issues with not being a quitter. I like that term "moving on". I'm actually getting used to the idea that it will only be the 3 of us...I keep coming up with alot of positive reasons in my head that having only 1 baby is okay for our family. For example...I would never miss a soccer practice/game while running "Kaylee" over to dance class. lol

I have to see everyone this evening...and I really dont want to go. My other brother who is an equal ass...is having a 40th birthday party. Everyone who knows us both on FB (alot of them will be there tonight)...congratulated them and ignored my post. The posts were a minute apart and so I know they all saw both posts. That stung. People would rather comment on good news and not bad news...yeah, I get that...but even my only family?! Every time my other brother calls...he WANTS something. He called 2'xs in the past 2 days...and not 1 freakin word about my cycle/negative. He needed a favor as usual. He has never texted, called, or posted Happy Birthday to Bill or I...ever! ...but we got him a present/card and are driving 1 hour to his party tonight?! I must be freakin crazy.

Ugh, I'm venting again. I'm sorry. Apparantly, I need it...and I appreciate it. Chocolate Chip cookies are in the mail

[klinger13]

Amanda...I'm not surprised at all that you had light pink blood on the end of the plunger. Suppositories irritate the insides bad. Very very normal. Nothing to worry about at all.

Tammy - Do you know if they irritate enough to cause cramping too? I think that's what I'm most worried about is that the cramping and spotting are going hand in hand. UGH I hate this!

And I'm sorry you've got to deal with a family b-day party on top of everything else, another UGH!!

[TammyS]

Amanda...is it just the normal cramping associated with pregnancy? I always have a little bit of it...uterus expanding...etc. They may not be related. Call your doc though to be on the safe side.

[klinger13]

Yeah, the nurse called me back and I just need to take it easy this weekend and call them if the spotting turns to bright red blood. I'll still go for my 4th beta on Monday and my u/s will be Thursday at 9am. That'll put me at exactly 6 weeks. Now I just have to find a way to distract myself from this crap. I'm used to the pinchy, pully cramps I've been having, but I just don't like the "hot" period-like cramping I have right now. For me, that's just been what's happened before each loss. Oh well, I just have to try not to worry about it. Maybe I can go back to bed and sleep until Monday's beta.

[TammyS]

Praying that it is nothing. Yes, rest this weekend. I'm sure all will be fine...this is YOUR time! Your u/s came up quick...that is great!

[DandMe]

Yeah, the nurse called me back and I just need to take it easy this weekend and call them if the spotting turns to bright red blood. I'll still go for my 4th beta on Monday and my u/s will be Thursday at 9am. That'll put me at exactly 6 weeks. Now I just have to find a way to distract myself from this crap. I'm used to the pinchy, pully cramps I've been having, but I just don't like the "hot" period-like cramping I have right now. For me, that's just been what's happened before each loss. Oh well, I just have to try not to worry about it. Maybe I can go back to bed and sleep until Monday's beta.

Ugh.... we all know how common spotting is but I'm sure we can all live without it. I don't use an applicator - is it for your progesterone? I've become ridiculously good at getting my two 'wahoo pills' right up to my cervix without an applicator. I hate that you're having cramping and that it worries you, and know how badly you want the time to pass. Maybe a weekend of movies and reading will help pass the time? As we all know - there are zillions of women who spot, and especially after IVF. Your betas are great - keep us posted even if it's just so you can pass the time!