Looking for November Cycle Buddies

[mellow4]

Hey Anna~ It's early, but it's very possible you have gone straight from the trigger to a BFP. I think if you take one in the morning it will likely be an accurate sign of what's really going on. I hope this is good news for you! Sound like it is, but you are right to be cautiously optimistic right now. Sorry your son is sick, that is no fun. Stay well, and stay sane. LOL. As if that is possible.

[blairwh58]

Karenvan- sorry to hear the news, but I am glad you finally got the answer. Enjoying a glass of wine is just what you needed.

Mellow- not too much longer now. I'm sure you are beyond anxious and hope you were able to go back to bed after the trigger.

Anna- what a nice dream your sister had. I think its definitely a good sign! And sounds to me like the faint line you keep getting is also good news!!!

Jenmink- have you caved in yet??

Sdtrying- stay positive. Just keep focusing on the good things- like you are PUPO!!! I understand your feeling of loss but just don't let it bring you down. Try to keep a PMA for the strong little embryo you were able to transfer. Good luck!!

Afm- everyone seems to have started testing which made me think about it for the first time. Maybe I should go get some tests and join in? I really wanted to hold out as long as possible, but getting a BFP would put me over the moon. Who knows how much longer I can hold out. This will sound sad but I conpletely forgot how the counting worked (yea 3 ivfs later and I feel like an idiot). If I transferredd on monday would today be 5dp6dt or 6dpfdt?

[mellow4]

Blair~ you are 5 days past today. You count the day after as your first day. I think you should do what ever you feel comfortable with....but.....We all want to know, so don't hold out on us! haha. How are you feeling?
Oh, and I actually trigger tonight, and I hope I am able to go back to sleep. I'm exhausted.

[annashope]

Blair

You and I tranferred on the same day and I believe we are 5dp 5dt unless your embies are 6d. I would not suggest starting to POAS since I stupidly did and made myself crazy already. I wish now I didn't even bother. Now I am questioning if what I had been seeing was the last of the trigger or an evap line (not sure if FRER give evaps in the first 5 mins) ugh this morning I saw nothing and now I am completely depressed even though I told myself last week that I would not likely see anything before the end of the weekend at the earliest. So my suggestion would be stay away...lol they are evil...but who am I kidding we are all POAS addicts here and so the madness continues. Its just hard because there were some girls who saw bfp on the fall board at 9dpo so of course it worries me..

SD I am so sorry you are sad...(((hugs))) I too have felt very weepy but I think it is literally my nerves getting the best of me. I mean the embies looked perfect and my lining was perfect and the embies were assisted hatched and I have no issues and yet I feel so scared because month after month we have been so disappointed.

Mellow how did the trigger go?

BTW My DH says that he read somewhere that hcg is lower for FET's is that true? has anyone else heard this?

[blairwh58]

mellow- Thanks for clearing that up with me. I felt so stupid asking but I guess its good that I didnt remember because I wasnt overthinking this cycle. SOrry I read about the trigger incorrectly. I was reading on my blackberry and had to scroll back and forth on the tiny screen. Best of luck tonight though!!

Annashope- I didnt even realize we had the exact same transfer day. Exciting. I think mine were 6d blasts but i dont know for sure. I just know that they are our last 3 so at least one better stick! I think you are right about waiting to test. I see you all going crazy, and think I have actually done a pretty good job avoiding the madness thus far. I am sure the line you saw was the trigger and you will start seeing the BFP in the next few days. I know its depressing to think some people test very early and get positives but as we know with this stuff everyone is different. I have heard that with the FET the hcg levels can be lower, which would also make things harder to pick up on a hpt. Try to keep your head up and stay positive. We will both get a BFP soon enough. I figure by not having a test in the house I can put off POAS a little longer, so maybe you should use all yours and not buy any for a few days? Best of luck in crazytown. Im here if you need to vent.

[healingheart]

Ok....so I know I'm just jumping in here after so many of you have been chatting so many days, weeks, even months, but I guess I have to start somewhere.
We are starting our 1st IVF cycle this month with ER and ET in mid December. We've been trying naturally for 5 1/2 years and I've had 3 ectopics, one of which almost killed me due to mis diagnosis and internal bleeding( lost my left tube). The last pregnancy in Dec 09 seemed perfect until at 8 weeks we couldn't see anything in the uterus. The little emby was somewhere else, not my tube....maybe the abdomen. Had to take methotrex and my beta took 4 months!! to go down. Due to a hydrosalphynx tube in mid August of this year, my right tube was removed so now the only chance DH and I have is IVF. The good news is that my ovaries are full of follicles and my hormones are great. My DH's swimmies also are excellent. It just depends if the follicles are still in good shape. It's been a long and devastating road for us. I am so ready to hold my son or daughter my arms. I dream about them all the time.
May I please join your group of ladies. I am wanting to share my ups and downs during this cycle and would love to have the support.

[riogirl71]

SD - I completely understand, we got an email yesterday that our 10 cell fragmented embie "did not meet the criteria to freeze" I cried, I was so sad. I transfered the other 4 and left him there. Weird guilty feeling so I totally understand! Yes would it not be great to have another flick on the screen running around the house? I am praying for your BFP!!! Vent here anytime we understand the ups and downs... for personals I open two screens with the same thread, post on one and read the other helps me keep things straight!!!

healing heart - welcome! I am so sorry for your tough journey and your ectopics. I took methotraxate too and went through beta hell so I completely understand. Awesome you have lots of follies and good swimmers!

Karen - I am so sorry but again I am with you, good that it is over quick and not go through Beta hell. OUr stories are so similar if you want to PM me I can give you my new RE s protocol and doses and she told me to do DHEA!!! Hang in there hun!

mellow - yickes how do you go back to sleep at that time after a shot? GOod luck with the trigger and you will be here PUPO too!

Blair- come on POAS with us, I never did it before either!

annas - BFP for sure!!! fingers crossed for you

Today our beans or bean are supposed to attach to the uterine lining, I am so praying we have a healthy baby from this! I got my up and down swing mood as usual, feeling really calm and not being OCD about it, weird... If I wanted to test my trigger should I poas today? 7dpo?

[krisnjer]

Karenvancouver-- So sorry to hear about your betas. I was hoping for the best for you. Enjoy the wine!! Best of luck to you on your future plans.

All the 2ww ladies and gentlemen-- YEAH!!! and keep it together in crazytown.

I know I am missing a lot of personals but I am thinking of you all.

AFM-- not sure where to start. This may be TMI but I am sharing anyway. I felt really good yesterday (I has felt kinda down earlier in the week). DH and I took a day trip so there was a lot of time in the car but it was really nice. When we got home I played with the yorkie dog by running around the living room playing chase (his favorite game). I was tired after but still felt fine. This morning (about 8:30) I woke up to really bad cramping in my abdominal area and when I got up to go pee there was A LOT of bright red blood and dark red/black chunks when I wiped. When I stood up the water was red and there was even more clumpy stuff in the toilet. I was also feeling faint, looked really pale and felt nauseated. So after we did our progesterone shot, we called the dr and headed over to the clinic after a quick wash up. I used a pantyliner. We were seen at about 10 am. When I got ready for the u/s there was just a tiny bit of blood on the pantyliner. We I went to get of the table I felt a gush of blood come out. Dr did the u/s and showed us the sac and a fetal pole. He said that he was able to see more than he expected to see based upon my ER/ET dates and the time of u/s which he said is a good thing. He said that as of right now I am pg and we can see it in the uterus. He said there is quite a lot of bleeding and could be several things, possibly a cyst (he didn't really thing so), possibly miscarrying one of the embryos that we did not see on u/s (we put in two) or possibly trying to miscarry the one we can see on the u/s screen today. He sent me home to bed rest and wants to see me Monday morning. He said if things go ok for the embryo (not sure what to call it at this point) that we saw on the u/s then we should see amazing progress on Monday morning. If it does miscarry then my body will just pass it at this point and we would know by Monday. So we headed home and I went straight to bed. I have soaked thru 2 pantyliners and moved to a larger pad. I just passed a clumpy blob about 2 inches in diameter. Still cramping--only in abdominal area-similar to AF pains. It is about 1pm now and I am still passing blood and cramping. DH and I are very scared and realistic too. We know the first beta was low (indicating not so good viability) and we know miscarries happen bc sometimes the emby is not healthy. So now we are back in the waiting game. I feel like my life has become a serious of 24-48 hour time blocks. Trying to stay positive and hoping the one little guy we saw on the u/s with the sac and fetal pole will be strong enough to hold on for dear life!! Don't really have any emotions right now. I think I am just stunned and maybe in a bit of shock. Well going to head to the bathroom again.....

[blairwh58]

Krisjner- I am so sorry to hear about everything you are going through. With that being said I have been on the boards here and have heard many people who went through the same things and ended up with a viable pregnancy. Just try to relax some this weekend and stay off your feet. I'm am hoping you go back monday for some great news.

[annashope]

Krisinjer

I am so sorry you are going through all of that and I can imagine it is so scary. I am praying for you. (((BIG HUGS)))) Stay strong I have heard many stories on here of women gushing blood and passing massive clots and still went on to have a healthy baby.

[JenMink55]

Happy Saturday Ladies!

So for personals--

Mellow- Thanks for asking I am feeling better. I was dizzy a few times yesterday and even today so I forced myself back in bed. Ugh, long weekend ahead! I hate being in bed!! How did your 3:15 AM trigger go!? How insane is THAT!

Anna- They say that you should test 7dpt5dt but that is you are pregnant with multiples the HCG could show up earlier. Did you did a FET/natural cycle is that the reason for the Trigger shot? Sorry to hear about your 10 year old, that is hard to deal with when you have your mind on other things.

SDtrying-- I got really emotional reading your story I honestly cannot imagine that scenario, I am so sorry. I pray that little guy/girl you transferred sticks in there nice and strong!!! I know what you mean about planning the next step, I am right there with you. <3 As for your Beta question, yes... My RE does two Beta's two days apart. The first Beta is frozen and then when they take the 2nd Beta they defrost the 1st Beta and compare. It's really insane if you ask me!!! I don't understand any reason to do that other than to drive the ladies crazy!

Blair OMG you have to POAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think that you should totally do it this weekend and let us know.

Healingheart- WELCOME!!! This is a great group of ladies and you will find the support you need. Sounds like you have really been through it, let's hope that you get that IVF miracle!!!

Rio- HI, it's me the POAS pusher. POAS ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am patiently waiting!

Krisnjer-- Oh honey, I am so sorry that you are going through this. Here is a little inspiration! A friend of mine had IVF about 3 years ago. After 3 weeks she started GUSHING out blood and thought for sure she had lost the pregnancy. Turns out that she was pregnant with twins and the bleeding was from a miscarriage of one of the twins. The other baby did fine and he is now 2 years old. DO NOT give up hope or loose that PMA. That's really all we have at this point.

AVM-

Well I did my FET on Wednesday and decided to POAS this morning at 3am. I guess I just needed to POAS to get it out of my system. It was negative of course but I am only 2dpt5dt so I didn't really expect a + result. Nevertheless I got a little bummed because a part of me was hoping for that elusive 2nd line! Today was my first day off bedrest, DH and I went to breakfeast and went to the Outlets to do a little shopping. I got extremely weak and dizzy so we went back home and I am back in bed. First Beta is Tuesday, but wont find out results until Thursday. Our RE freeze's the 1st Beta and compares to the 2nd Beta. Today I have had mild cramping and I have also been a little out of breath when getting up. I think it's from laying down for nearly 3 days.

Love to you all!!!
~~Jen

[blairwh58]

Jenmink- you are so sily for caving in so early. Don't be disappointed since they don't even attach for 48 hrs after the transfer. I am sure before you know it you will POAS and get the BFP!!

AFM- I am honestly going to try and wait before I cave and do the first test. I guess part of me is beyond scared that if this one doesn't work our baby dreams will be on hold for awhile because of money. The other part of me wants to test so badly because I have a really good feeling about this cycle. We made lots of changes- increased estrogen, added estrogen shots, adding lovenox, acupuncture, and as dumb as this sounds- I've been wearing a bracelet my friend gave me since the day we started lupron. She wore it every day of her 6th ivf cycle up until she delivered her baby and then gave it to me for good luck. Just hoping all these changes are what we needed for a BFP!

[jennieswa]

SDTrying#2- We transferred 2 on Thursday. I did bedrest until late yesterday and then moved to the couch. Same for today. My DS doesn't understand (he will be 2 in Dec-IVF as well) that Mommy can't pick him up. My parents were here to help out which has been great. How long did they tell you not to pick up your son for? When is your beta? Mine is the 22nd.

Krisnjer
When I was pregnant with my DS (IVF) at 5 weeks I had horrible bleeding etc. What happen was one of the embies didn't implant and was lost at that time. Come to find out that it is VERY common. I had a clot along with the sack but the clot disappeared within a few weeks and I went on to deliver a healthy happy DS. I know this time if so stressful but keep thinking positive!!!!

[karenvancouverisland]

hi ladies..thanks to you all for your kind words.. makes my heart smile to have this support

krisnjer. i'm sorry you're going through this stress.. in my last pregnancy (which resulted inour son), i had 2 heavy bleeds at 9 weeks, then spotted everyday from 9-12 weeks. it was hell. but it often happens and results in a birth of a miracle. prior to carrying my son, i had always thought being pregnant would be joyous and anxiety-free... well it was a lot of joy. but i was a typical IVF woman and full of anxiety and mistrust that everything would be alright.. distraction was the best thing i could do for my sanity. hang in there.... a miracle has started within you

blair /everyone on the POAS topic.. well, this time was the first time i ever POAS'd during fertility treatment and i've learned it's not for me, and i've also learned that my clinic doesn't beta test til 16 or 17 DPO for a GOOD reason, not because they're cruel. what happened to me is a good example of why not to POAS, although i know others have amazing success stories that go with POAS. so my 2 BFP from POAS at 14DPO, then my early beta at 14DPO that i conned my OBGYN"s receptionist into giving me...set me up for a bigger fall. if i had waited til my IF clinic's beta date, at 16DPO, i wouldn't have gotten so hopeful, as at 16dpo my beta was 38, not a great number. but at 14dpo...it was 65, which isn't great either, but sounds more hopeful than 38!! ...chemical pregnancy's are sadly common amongst us ...on the pro-POAS side, it prompted me to get an early beta, which, although heartbreaking, ended up me knowing what degree the embie had developed to, which strangely gives me hope that our embies can be 'tough'.

anyways, my personal choice for next time will be to not poas....but at the same time- i love hearing peoples stories about it!!

SD..i'm sorry you're feeling so sad and disappointed about your embies.. hugs to you. this is so hard. and the progesterone does NOT help. i'm so relieved to be off it, it was seriously adding to my grief level about both my cat and the pregnancy and i was just such a mess.

although today i feel worn out, still sad, i have a sore throat from so much crying. i am feeling more grounded today too.

rio- YES please give me info on your protocals ect. esp DHEA, how long you took it, dose ect. i've decided to switch clinics to a pro-DHEA centre.... it's also closer to my town anyways.

love you all...sorry i only did a few personals..but i gottta get back to making dinner

[annashope]

Good morning girls

So I am freaking out a little already. This is 11dpo AM and the hpt is still a bfn...well the first response is a bfn but the cheapie rite aid test is not a bfn....anyways I am so used to being told to only trust FRER that I disregard anything else. So now I am sitting here looking at DH who is still asleep and feeling so sad.Poor guy he wants this so bad I am so scared that this is not gonna work and then the beta on his bday this Wednesday would just be a cruel joke. I know I take the negatives poorly but he is worse than me---he will be crushed and I am so scared of disappointing him. He is such a great man and really deserves this to work...ugh so I am sitting here and literally wishing for a miracle. Last cycle when we had a bfp it was the evening of day 10 and here we are now day 11

sorry girls I don't mean to be a debbie downer today...I guess I am just scared