Fall 2010 Cycle Group

[moorebaby]

Sounds like so many of us are going to be really close together. AF is really trying to come on, but not quite here yet. Ugh! I have to babysit Thursday and Friday and cant lug them both to my baseline...so I really need full flow in the next couple of hours...so I can go to my baseline tomorrow. Otherwise, I'm going to have to have DH take 1/2 a day off and stay with the kids till I get back. I babysit sometimes for DH's co-worker teacher friend. Well, apparantly I really hurt my brother by not going to his party and ignoring his day...and we fought all day over it. Perhaps that is why I havent started yet. He said some pretty mean things about me even trying to get pregnant....and well I'm just not even going to go there. It was bad, really bad.

I also talked to the doc today. He really didnt have any answers for me at all. He said both cycles in Sept and Oct were so similar and so good in his eyes...that he thinks that keeping with what we are doing is the best plan. I told him that even though I stimmed only 6.5 days in Sept...I felt that the embryos were better...in comparison to stimming 9 days by looking at the pics. He didnt have the pics in front of him, but said from the lab report that they were very similar as far as grading. We ultimately agreed (my idea) to do something in between both cycles...start me out at the 225 follistim and 225 menopur and then drop it to what we did for the last cycle at 175 follistim and 150 menopur after a couple of days. So start me out quick (jump start the follicles) and then slow it back down. It seemed like I was on too low of a dose last time because my left ovary never really did anything and that is my good ovary, too. So who knows...maybe something in the middle will work. I'm pretty frustrated to say the least.

ugh, how frustrating!!! maybe combining different parts of each cycle will be just what you need for a bfp! come on af!!! i can't do a dance for you, as i'm on bed rest, but i'll do the af song for you, although my singing is atrocious, lol!

[moorebaby]

Hey Everyone !

I read all 20 pages! You women are amazing. The way you comfort each other and cheer each other on is fantastic. A good group of people here !!! Its good to be back to posting. I have been working on my blog which goes in detail of this whole entire journey. I hope my kiddo will like it one day!! I will put the link in my signature if anyone is interested in reading it. HUGS !

Moore - I am a Web Administrator. I thought it was cute you called me Michelle. Not too many people do that. Yay on the 5 fertilized !!

AFM - Hysteroscopy went well. I was crampy and extremly bloating/gas afterwards (anyone experience the gas?). The next day I had my teaching visit! It was so exciting. I read all the time what you ladies do and was excited to start my shots. Well Monday came around and it was supposed to be the start of my injections. I did my US/BW then went to work. From there I had a horrible Monday. I found out that my insurance will not cover Menopur. Then I found out they will not give me FLMA except for ER and ET days, and then I get a call from RE saying my estrogen is too high and they want me back on birth control pills for a week. I felt so depressed by the end of the day. I had so much excitement the week before and this week did not start well. But I have to keep trying to stay positive. So I started thinking about the dates of when my ER and ET would be done. I was told ER on the 6th with ET on the 11th (doing 5 days because of PGD). Well two weeks from ET for my first U/S would be Christmas. So I guess that would be a fantastic Christmas present! We'll see how it goes !

i think i remember seeing your name at the end of 1 of your 1st posts. do you mind that i call you that? i know some people prefer their nicknames did you get to practice the injections on an orange at your teaching visit? i'm so sorry about your crappy monday...how awful! when it rains, it pours, huh? but you're right, that would be a fantastic christmas present!!! i'll be rooting for you!

[moorebaby]

72943.... okay.. I'll stop getting betas

that is fabulous!!! good luck tomorrow! i cannot wait to hear about your u/s tomorrow!!!

[moorebaby]

HI girls,

I just wanted to pop in and let you all know I'm still reading and being a cheerleader.
Work has been busy so I haven't been able to post much.

AFM -- Roxy's leg is doing better. She touched it to the ground (no weight) for the first time yesterday since she had the surgery a week ago. The bill for the surgery was $3,480 plus we have to go back for x-rays in a few weeks. DH had his appt with the urologist who seemed very optimistic that repairing his varicocele would improve his motility/morphology (his #'s are good). So that is scheduled for 11/24. I am just waiting for AF to schedule my HSG. I'm on day 28 of my cycle and I am normally only 26 days but I think maybe progesterone on my last BFN cycle threw me off a bit because I ovulated on day 16 vs day 12-13. I've been charting BBT's, CM, CP, etc to hopefully give us the best chances on our own these next couple of months. Still looking at an IVF cycle in January. Here is my chart if you are interested. http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/277431

Good luck to all!

so glad that roxy is doing better! we just found out that roscoe (who is only like 4 months old) might have hip dysplasia. but it's too early to know...they usually have to wait until they're about 18 months old. that is a lot of $$$ you spent on roxy, but it's so worth it! the urologist's positive outlook is reassuring!!!

i'm thinking of you!!! my thoughts are w/ you!

[moorebaby]

Hey everyone

Ester-GOOD LUCK tomorrow...PUPO!!!!! cant wait to hear all about it!

AFM---Trying to keep my head up! Cramps and bleeding have started...damn AF couldnt give me a break could she? As upset as I am...We still have another chance right?? My DH is so cute..he told me no matter what we have eachother and we will be ok! He says its not over yet so regroup and try again...he feels bad all I have to go thru physically and wishes things were different but we'll be ok! So looks like after the holidays we will be jumping back in....either January or February we will see our schedules! It will also be nice bc the DH will be home more bc football season is over and he is a highschool coach...yeah Im a football widow from aug-dec LOL so he can help me some more as well! Thanks once again ladies for all your support! You truly are a blessing to me and I dont know where I would be without this website (prolly a few more dollars in my pocket without all the HPTs..LOL ) but I love it!!!!

lauren, thanks for your positive thoughts. i'm so sorry about your bfn! you totally deserve a bfp....& it WILL happen to you! you are a very strong woman & i'm sure being a l&d nurse must makes this so much more emotional! i don't know how you do it! your dh sounds like a sweetheart! i will be rooting for you during your next cycle! (((HUGS)))

[karenthescorpio]

Lauren- I'm so sorry. That sucks so bad! I hope your herart heals over the holidays and you get your BFP as 2011 begins! XO

[moorebaby]

Hello everyone!!!!
Ester - Good luck tomorrow. Can't wait to congratulate you on being PUPO

AFM - I am PUPO!!!! It was only the one, but he/she looks great so far. I was super worried that I would get a call this morning and tell me not to bother coming in, but nope, the little embryo that could has hung around for the duration. It was a rapidly growing 4 cell with almost no fragmentation. I heard from the RE that the other eggs were too immature (GV) for ICSI so they are guessing that it was too early of a trigger or that I am resistant to the hcg shot. There is really no way to tell although I really wish that I had asked for that hpt to check trigger like other people have had. It's amazing how much you learn during every cycle.

congrats on being pupo! that is great...a 4-cell w/ almost no fragmentation...exactly where it should've been at day 2! well, even though this cyce WILL work, when you decide to add a 2nd little one to the family, they'll know to not trigger you when they did & to use something else beside hcg to trigger you.

why is your beta is so far away? it's 3 days after mine. well we can try & keep each other sane in crazytown, lol!

[moorebaby]

Hi everyone. Gonna do my update and then read what I have missed. So been an exciting morning. On the way to transfer my RE himself called to say our embies are such great quality he recommends that we only transfer one. I told him no we wanted two and he said ok we will discuss more when you arrive. So we get there and the embryologist gives us the scoop. We have 4 pgd approved embies. All great quality and two are 6AA (best possible). She called it textbook perfect. I was shocked and happy of course. She said you have an extremely high chance of implantation plus your history of implantation is 100 percent. How she explained it was this...we aren't increasing our overall pregnancy possibility with these grade of embies by transferring two. Just the rate of twins. Which she said would be like 75percent with these embies. So after much agonizing we decided on one. I just accepted I wanted to do all I could to bring home a healthy baby. After getting twins the last time with slightly less quality pgd embies I had this gut feeling we would be ok with one. After dealing with the loss of my twins I just can't put myself or the babies at risk. I know my cervix can handle it. Didnt think I could mentally when I sat there in the real moment being honest with myself. So now I have one perfect little embie making him/herself at home! I feel so happy and positive. Went to acupuncturist right after. Now just resting and catching up. Going to watch a movie and dream of my little buddy settling in.

Big hug to all. Will do personals soon as I catch up!!!!!!

congrats karen! you're pupo & you'll be getting your bfp soon, i just know it! i think you made a good decision. this time you will have a wonderful, stress-free pregnancy (& i'll throw labor in there ).

[moorebaby]

Good morning girls

Well I caved and POAS and its BFN all the way. I am now 11-12 days or rather 6-7dt 5dt and hope is quickly fading now. I stopped using the blue dye tests since I read a lot of bad stuff about them online but dollor store and FRER and both BFN's. Poor DH is still completely convinced that it worked. I guess I still have 2 days to beta so we will see. On top of it I have no symptoms---no sore boobs nothing, just a bit of a backache.

I have to run out and run errands but I promise to do personals later. Thank you girls for all your support

anna- there have been numerous women who had negative hpt's & got bfp's! those hpt's can be so evil sometimes! i still have much hope for you! i'll be thinking of you tomorrow...good luck!

[moorebaby]

Guess what ladies???? We have 10 EMBIES! I didn't get the call until about 2pm. I thought I would die waiting. He said that things went perfectly. They actually got 20 eggs and not all were mature. What a relief to get 10. I know that there's always another hurdle, but i feel like we just crossed a big one. I am so grafeful right now. He is expecting a 5 day transfer which is Friday. He will call me on Wednesday with another report. I am SO HAPPY!!!

woohooo!!! what a wonderful report!!! friday is not too far away!! i'm so happy for you!

[DandMe]

I went back THREE pages and read all the posts... I just don't know where to start with personals. I was a MESS last night and got no sleep... so nervous about the beta.

I know you guys are right... but it's not just bfn's I've gotten... I can handle that... and it's not sudden m/c's either...it's been so far.. TEN WEEKS this year of 'thinking' I was pregnant and that's not counting this past five weeks. That's almost HALF a pregnancy. argh.

So.... Anyhow. If I have a hCG that high and there's nothing there I am seriously going to cut my wrists with a spoon. One of those grapefruit ones. With serrated edges.

I can't recall all the posts I wanted to respond to. But I'll try a few ...

Lou... I am glad your furbaby is feeling a bit better and that your hubbybaby is going to get his surgery.

Karen - that's an awesome report!! Yay yay yay!

Anna... I have a ton of hcg in my system and virtually no symptoms. Don't fret... just try to relax. I think it's way fewer women who have normal bfp's than late ones..

Tammy.... you sound like a research hound - I can totally relate. NOBODY knows more about YOUR body than YOU... and nobody takes it more seriously than the mom and dad.... the doctors don't think about us 24/7.. they go home at night and holidays and have a zillion other patients.

Rio! What's up with the pain, kiddo??? It really sounds like you need to be looked at... keep us posted... sounds like you might have OHSS....

ARgH.. I know there's more and I do want to pay attention to all.. but I am exhausted and there's just too much news to respond. Know I'm thinking about you and offering cheers, hugs and an open ear.

[margi26]

Ester: (or do you prefer I use Moorebaby?) Congratulations!! You are PUPO!!! Rest up and let those embibabies snuggle in to momma!! Please take extra care of yourself with your OHSS symptoms. Drink that gatorade and rest, rest, rest. I mean it--I have a brother in CT!!

But seriously, sorry ET day was so uncomfortable physically--again, another sacrifice we make of our bodies to get our little angels. Glad you have tomorrow off.

Kynlee: So sorry. It really is so unfair after all we go through--we all--you deserve a BFP. I hope that the new year brings you exactly that. And in February....hm...maybe a wonderful Valentine. (((HUGS)))

Karian: Congratulations, you are PUPO!!! 2 to transfer is good...try not to fret too much and overanalyze. As for what to do with your body? Take it easy, but don’t worry too much there either. A sneeze or a pee isn’t going to hurt anything. Just no swinging from the chandeliers, ok?

Riogirl: Thanks for everything !! And I absolutely LOVE your blinkies. They SO put a smile on my face. Have you picked out the one for your own BFP announcement?! I think I am going to have to try to check out photobucket--is that where you said you got them from? I am not the most computer-savvy of individuals. As far as getting out of Crazytown--the mayor cannot leave until a new one is appointed. I think there are going to be plenty of candidates soon--myself included in a few days! Oh--just read your later post...sorry you are feeling like crap. It does sound a little like OHSS...so take things easy, ok? I’m glad you haven’t had any massive weight gain, but still--wouldn’t hurt to down some gatorade and keep your feet up. Please call RE in the morning if you aren't feeling better.

Heather: Allergic reaction to the heart monitor tabs? Who would’ve thunk it?! My oh my. You poor dear--little outlines all over your chest. As if IVF didn’t reek enough havoc on your bode. So sorry...and thanks for your IUI experience. I think I will call in the morning and make sure they can work me in for an sns so I at least know what I am dealing with. You have great PMA--keep it going!!

Lauren: I am pissed for you. I don’t cuss--out loud--but believe me a lot of them are currently floating around in my head. How on earth? Not sure if they were misleading you or hadn't properly checked before giving you answers, but either way not acceptable. Was this an unusual experience for you at that clinic? Or indicative of how they run things? My first clinic the nurse was such a space cadet she minimized and ignored when I called with my OHSS symptoms and I was so sick by the time I saw RE a few days later--he rushed me to the hospital. The second clinic, they were just so cold and uncaring--the final straw was how angry she was at me for getting a beta from my OBGYN when I was floating in Beta Hell. Anyway--all that to say that it isn’t always easy, but you must advocate for yourself. You have a LOT invested in this process--physically, financially, and most importantly, emotionally. You have to be your best advocate. It took me way too long (and the help of some strong women here) to help me realize that.

Sonya: Crazy-high beta!! You should sleep well tonight I will be checking tomorrow frequently for your u/s results.

Chelle: Glad the hysteroscopy went well--what a pain about insurance. And sorry about E2 level being high, but try to remember that you want all the conditions to “be right” no matter how much you want to rush things. I think a BFP would be an awesome Christmas present indeed!

Tammy: Sorry the drama continues with your brother. You don’t need that stress right now. Not at all. Glad that you have such a great RE that includes you as such an active participant in the decision making. My current one is too and it makes the entire process seem better to have some control on things. At least for me it does. I like the jump start idea! I can imagine how frustrated you are indeed...just try to hold on--push away the negative thoughts (and negative people) and concentrate on the positives and your plans.

AFM?: I am triggered and ready for action! Acupuncture and some BD tomorrow--then IUI and more acupuncture on Thursday--to be followed by some more BD. Here I go!!! And, I think I will call tomorrow to make sure they can get me an sns Thursday before the IUI. I really want to know what we are dealing with in terms of how many are at mature size.

BABY DUST TO ALL!!

[karin1]

Kynlee......so sorry about your bfn....it doesn't matter if you're prepared or not.....still hurts. (((((HUGS))))

[leorira11]

Sonya - thank you for explaining slowly.... when I get home from work, I'll add a picture!

Tammy - I'm glad to hear that you are having PMA towards a new cycle. I really hope this one works for you....I totally understand how you want your period to come a specific day because the scheduling is most convinient for the SnS.... mine didn't work out this time - and I ended up dragging myself out of bed at 6 am after only getting home from work at 1am. Oh well. I hope it works out for you!

Kynlee - I'm so sorry. BFN sucks.

Heather - I'm always afraid I'll be allergic to the stupid things. I've heard an awful story of someone who learned they had a latex allergy from their *first time* (condom). AH!

Margi - Good luck on your IUI. Crazy that you are having your second IUI, and I'm still waiting for my FET... oh well - hopefully we'll both be pregnant soon!


Another stupid questions - how do y'all know each other's names if it's not in their user name or signature? (who is Amanda? riogirl? - and Ester is moorebaby? hmmmm)
My real name is similar to my username - Leora.... but whatever (if you wonder where the "11" came from, I was 11 years old when I picked out "leorira11" for my AOL username - and it's stuck! I use leorira11 everywhere!)

[NancyB]

Oh YIKES. I'm so behind in reading here.

Sonya -- you have u/s today, right? Oh, I just can't wait to hear all about it! What time is your u/s?

Amanda -- whoo hooo one more sleep until your u/s!

Annashope -- do you have beta today? For some reason I'm thinking it is today but I could be off.

Kynlee -- I'm so sorry about your BFN. Getting the BFN totally stinks!

Tammy -- Excited for you to start again. I read your new plan of action and I hope it's exactly what you need.