Winter 2010-2011 Cycle Board

[Karian]

I understand this is an extremely sensitive issue for many of us, but we have to respect their decision.
Many people are back at the IVF to conceive a sibling for their first born, and it doesn't make their efforts less important than for someone who has no kids. People who has kids from previous marriages and have finally found their other half are also trying to conceive using IVF even thought they already have grown up kids.

Everyone on this board or going through an IVF process has their very own personal reasons to be doing it. Each one of us has the exact same illusions and hopes.... We all pray that at the end of the 2ww we get a great beta and we all picture ourselves holding a perfectly healthy baby at the end of 9 months.

I want to send each one of you a big hugs, lots and lots of baby dust and Happy Holidays! Thank you all for being here for each one of us!

[margi26]

First of all, please let me apologize to the entire group. I sent a PM because I was trying to avoid this drama and upset. But now I do feel as though I need to defend and explain myself. I was not being mean or rude to you, ChelleDe. And, I NEVER said you were wrong or bad or anything of the kind. As I said in my PM, I was trying to encourage you to be more sensitive and understanding to the other women on this thread. I was trying to give you some perspective that maybe you didn’t have.

Yesterday was an extremely sad and difficult day. For those of you on this Cycle group that don’t know, Mellow--a long time member who has been through way too much loss, has begun to lose her twins. Rio, who was running the November Cycle, is likely in the midst of losing one of her twins, and Peonies had a D&C to end her not viable pregnancy. These are horrible losses and I am mourning with them.

Yesterday, that same day, ChelleDe's chose to disgard 2 of her embies because they were girls and was very upfront about it. As I told her, I was not stating a moralistic objection to her decision. I made that clear. But, the fact that she seemed to be so callous--and I did use that word--to how it affects others that have grieved the loss of their embies was my concern. I also suggested that it was not likely intentional. I was never suggesting that she was doing this on purpose. Although your PM response to me was harsh, I am not going to continue the drama with you. I am shocked and didn't expected it. My only intent--as I told you--was to hopefully open your eyes to how others are feeling and may feel when reading your posts. I did not tell you to leave the forum. I am hurt that you would try to imply that to these women here.

I really am sorry that this has created conflict in a forum that is supposed to be one of support. That was never my intention. I am really sorry ChelleDe that you chose to bring your edited version of my message out in the general forum. I spent time and tried to be very thoughtful in its content. I was trying to help you understand and empathize with others, not attack you. And, I was being respectful by sending it only in a PM to avoid all of this on the main thread. If you want to continue to blast me in PM. Go right ahead. But, please stop this conflict on this thread so that women can get the support that they need. Anyone that has known me over the past 5 months that I have been a member, knows that I only want the best for everyone and again, as I said to you in my PM, that includes you.

[Cshell717]

Update: my dear MIL just passed away yesterday. She really wanted to hold her first grandchild. I POAS doay (15 dpo) and BFN. Everything is just so depressing right now.

[Karian]

Update: my dear MIL just passed away yesterday. She really wanted to hold her first grandchild. I POAS doay (15 dpo) and BFN. Everything is just so depressing right now.

I'm so very sorry for you loss. I'll be praying for you and your family.

[margi26]

Oh, Mishell. There are no words to properly comfort you right now. I am so very sorry. You must be besides yourself with grief. Please know that we are here to support you. And poor DH. What a tragedy. ((((((HUGS))))))

[ChelleDe]

I think Karina is absolutely correct.

Mishelle - I am soooo sorry for your both your losses! I am sending you a big giant hug !!!!

[sunshine.12]

Cshell717..hugs to you dear..i went through similar experience last year when my grand father passed away. he always used to say that he wanted to hold my baby and i also had a failed IVF cycle around that time when he left us..but im sure i have his blessing when i go for this cycle..time will heal everything..hang in there..

[katieb1231]

Okay Ladies - Everyone focus and take a deep breath with me now lets take another & one more for good measure as you are breathing let all this bad energy go - we are all here for each other and we need to continue to do so - everyone makes decision that affect someone else in some way and make them sad, angry, or even happy but that is life. Now lets move on from this - I am a mother of an adopted child & PUPO at the moment so I can take this from both sides but each decision I made was very personal to me & discussing such things on a board is very difficult to convey the feelings & emotions behind each action we took. Please all just take some deep breaths realize throwing accusations & saying mean things is not helping anybody out. Decisions were made & they effected some of you lets just leave it at that and move on - everyone is here for a reason no matter what brings them here they are all welcome here and we are here to support them. Happy Sticky Baby Dust Thoughts to you all and please lets just try to move on from this. I love these boards & don't want to see them crumble can't we all just take a collective breath to let this go????

[Karian]

Okay Ladies - Everyone focus and take a deep breath with me now lets take another & one more for good measure as you are breathing let all this bad energy go - we are all here for each other and we need to continue to do so - everyone makes decision that affect someone else in some way and make them sad, angry, or even happy but that is life. Now lets move on from this - I am a mother of an adopted child & PUPO at the moment so I can take this from both sides but each decision I made was very personal to me & discussing such things on a board is very difficult to convey the feelings & emotions behind each action we took. Please all just take some deep breaths realize throwing accusations & saying mean things is not helping anybody out. Decisions were made & they effected some of you lets just leave it at that and move on - everyone is here for a reason no matter what brings them here they are all welcome here and we are here to support them. Happy Sticky Baby Dust Thoughts to you all and please lets just try to move on from this. I love these boards & don't want to see them crumble can't we all just take a collective breath to let this go????

Congrats on being PUPO!

[lou71]

Hi everyone,

I missed a couple of days and apparently a lot.

Lauren1171 -- How did your day 3 labs come back? I just had mine as well. My E2 was 42 and FSH was 6.6. I'm told this was "normal". Why are you so doubtful that this cycle won't work??? Please don't think that way. I understand after so many disappointments and BFN's that it's easy. Believe me I'm right there with you. I've been struggling to find a reason why my fresh and frozen high quality blast transfers failed. Hence, this last surgery. It can work! Even after so many BFN's.... it can still work. Hang in there.

Bakers -- Thanks! I'm working on healing but was running a bit of a temp yesterday. Saw my surgeon and she changed my antibiotics but didn't feel I had any true infection. How's it feel to be PUPO? BTW... I never POAS!

Ryann -- Congrats on a nice beta rise. That is about triple, ya know.

Rio -- How are you hun? I wanted to let you know my FSH fell from 8.9 (1.5 yrs ago) to 6.6 this month on DHEA. Thanks for all your input.

jkulab -- So sorry you have to have another polypectomy. I just had laparoscopic surgery to remove a fibroid, endo, cyst, adhesions... ugh! I think my uterus has had more visitors than Graceland this year!

katieb -- Hoping you end up with the best Christmas gift ever this year!

krisnjer -- Here's hoping that third time is the charm for you.

leora -- I believe you will get your baby. I'm so sorry this road has been so difficult. I admire your courage and perseverance.

Mishell -- I am so sorry for the loss of your MIL and your negative HPT. Are you going to have a beta? You are in my thoughts and prayers.

AFM -- Had a scare yesterday in that I was running a fever. Called my surgeon and went in to get checked out. She changed my antibiotics and didn't see anything concerning. Today I feel better and will head out to finish Christmas shopping here in a bit. Tonight we are going to see Jerry Seinfeld perform! I also got my day 3 E2 and FSH levels back. They were 42 and 6.6. As long as I ovulate on time, I will stim with my next AF due 1/9 and will do estrogen priming a few days before AF is due. So I'm going to be testing and praying for a positive OPK around the 25th. If for some reason, the surgery threw off my cycle, then I will be cancelled until February due to scheduling at my clinic.

[katieb1231]

Karian - Thank You!!!!!!!!! I actually POAS today & it was a BFP!!! 10dpo - Hope it keeps bringing me BFP!

[annashope]

I had my second beta today and it is 725 I am 16dpo. I think this is starting to become a bit more real now I promise to do personals in a moment but first I must eat something...lol

Katie big congrats on your bfp and at 10 dpo its really great!!!

[katieb1231]

Oh Mishell I am so sorry for your loss - my prayers are with you and your family that you have some peace & comfort at this very difficult time in your lives. You will be in my thoughts & prayers -

[katieb1231]

Annashope - WOW! Congrats on the great beta! I am hoping that since I am testing positive so early that I will have great numbers too! I googled a little and it says even a faint line is a positive result hope thats true! Congratulations!

[krisnjer]

ANNA--- Congrats on your numbers!!! I am so happy for you.