Winter 2010-2011 Cycle Board

[anton]

just a quicky for Leona! I couldn't resist not sending my wish to you!
Leorira-Yoooo Hoooo!!!! Bravo my friend!!! i wish you all the best in triggering!!! my thoughts are with you I feel your excitement and you have every right to be! this time you are going home with a baby!! A BFP is on its way!!!! and you so much deserve it! xxx

anton

[qita71]

qita - I never heard of cytoplasmic transfer either. Can you explain why your doctor thinks it would help?

Hey Leorira

Thanks for your note. I am really confused about this and getting upset..... Had my WTF appointment last night. Was not entirely impressed. The doctor didn't appear to volunteer any answers or solutions (and certainly no apology or regret). He didn't really seem on top of our case at all (I know he has many patients but...) and referred to the notes constantly and his nurse (the only times I saw the doctor were initial consultation, collection, transfer and the WTF- I do not know if this is normal?). I was glad I had done lots of research as in view of his reluctance to engage I had to kind of take charge of the consultation and suggest ideas! For example, I had an endometriosis operation in December and he has had the DVD of it since then and has clearly not looked at it.

Having told us all the way along that my eggs and the embryos were 'beautiful', and we know there is no problem with DH's sperm, he eventually advised us last night (after much cajoling from me as to if everything was so right, what happened) that the embryos did not grow as quickly as they ought. Hence being murolas at day 5 (when transferred) not blasts. He did, however, say that they had done plenty of successful murola transfers. So, he suggested starting on a higher dose of GonalF (300 mg) to try and get more eggs, with the embryos they are then going to do genetic testing (again- they did that last time and all passed) and use some embryos from the pool to inject into others to make them better and grow faster- he referred to this as 'cytoplasmic transfer'. However, when I look on the internet cytoplasmic transfer appears to relate to eggs not embryos and he said my eggs were perfect.

I am really dazed and confused. I am, however, concerned about time and so cannot face trying to get into another clinic here (Dubai) or back home (the UK) and the inevitable delay that will involve. So... I started on gonapeptyl again today at the same clinic.

If you or anyone out there has any thoughts on this proposal or generally on the above I would be most grateful....

Thanks in advance!

Qita

PS Am going to drop Ghost a line also to see if it makes any sense to her....

[CJinNC]

Margi... not sure what my fingers were doing... I was thinking testing but instead wrote triggering. I didn't know if Leora was a POAS addict as well... in which case I know most of us couldn't wait the full 14 days. Either way, test or not, I am keeping everything crossed that its a bfp!

I agree with Leora about telling people. With my pregnancy years ago, I waited until I got CVS testing back to know the baby was okay (ex-hubby and I were carriers of a genetic disease) but with my last pregnancy in '09, we told DH's family and a few friends as soon as we saw the sac in the uterus - we were too excited to contain ourselves. I never, for some reason, thought that I would m/c. I just had it in my mind that if, after all that time and my age, I was blessed with a bfp, no one would be cruel enough to take it away from me... but I guess I was wrong. Anyway, it hurt telling people about the loss... but in all honesty, I think it helped to share my grief so that others knew how sad I was rather than think I was just "sick". I never told my mother though, because even with my earlier pregnancies when I was young she was always worried something horrible would happen while I was pregnant. I had a sister (not her daughter but we were all close) many years ago that died at 9 months pregnant - hours before they were going to take the baby by c-section. It was a freak thing, but we lost her and the baby, and I think she was always worried that would happen to me. SOOO.. I don't plan on telling her that I am pregnant (If I am so lucky) until I am wayyy far along - she lives 400 miles away, so it shouldn't be too difficult.

[riogirl71]

LEora - woohoo for triggering! You are so close! Keep the PMA!

SD - pee away my friend!

Margi - so close now...

[penny100]

Leora - Yay for triggering!! Good luck with your transfer. I will be praying for you.

Lou - I live in Grayslake the far North suburbs. We are almost in Wisconsin. Where are you in the NW suburbs?

Try & relax with as you wait for your ultrasound. Stress can't help. I know easy for me to say, I am not the one waiting. I know if I ever get the BFP I will be the exact same way. I will do nothing but worry about MC. I am sure it is even harder for you since you MC in the past. Hopefully that bodes well for everything working our perfectly this time. Try & watch some good movies or read some good books to take your mind off of everything. And spending time with friends is always helpful.

My hub & I have decided that we will go with the April cycle. We felt like we kind of rushed our first cycle & want eveything to be nice & relaxed with our second try. Plus at church today they asked if there was anyone who needed guidance from God regarding a decision. That certainly was us & we feel like he gave us the answer to take our time with the April cycle. It was funny we are the way home in the car & it became completely clear. I really do hope it works, because it will be our last try. We have also decided that if we don't get a positive the next time around that we will accept that and move on. So not sure when we will start, but I will be calling my doctor tomorrow to let him know.

I hope you had a great time with your friends! Take care of yourself. I will keep you in my prayers.

Darlene

[Kerri_789]

Leora &CJ,

I thought not to tell anybody will be less painful if any bad things happen. After reading your comment to Tiger, I realised "sharing" can be easier.
We visited a friend in the hospital this weekend. She is at my age. They had several unknown miscarriages before their first baby was conceived. Now their second baby was born last Thursday. I could not feel my sincerity in the conversation. I stayed cold and superficial. I don’t know whether they noticed but I really felt bad about this.

Leora,
You could update your list: I had a ET on 2.9 and officially entered PUPA GOOD LUCK for your ER!

Kerri

[HopeIsAllIHave]

Hi all. Bad news. Beta has dropped to 125. I don't even know what that means, but I guess the baby didn't make it. I am so depressed, I don't even know what to do or say anymore.

[hotgreentea]

(huge hugs) Hope. I am very, very sorry.

[LYD10]

Hi all. Bad news. Beta has dropped to 125. I don't even know what that means, but I guess the baby didn't make it. I am so depressed, I don't even know what to do or say anymore.

oh my goodness! That's awful! i am so sorry, Hope!

[CJinNC]

Hope, I'm so sorry. This process sucks. Take care of yourself.

[sunshine.12]

hope - i don't even know what to say dear..this is such a huge unexpected shock! big big hugs for you..

can drop in beta means, 2 beans took and only one is progressing?

i will keep you in my prayers..

[riogirl71]

Hope - I am so very sorry, when is your next beta? You transfered 2 blasts? Maybe one didn't make it and caused the beta to go down? I am praying for a miracle for you!

[jkulab]

hope = i'm so sorry to hear. i hope that the one didn't take and the other took. my thoughts and prayers are with you!

[lou71]

Ashley- Oh no! I'm soooo sorry. Please tell me they are checking again. I have seen a beta drop a bit and come back again due to a twin loss leaving a healthy singleton. You are in my prayers tonight.

Darlene- I know Grayslake well. My DH grew up there and my in laws still live there. Did you grow up there too? What clinic do you go to? I wonder if we're at the same one. I currently live in Algonquin but grew up in Fox Lake.

[kynlee]

Hi Ladies I wrote a long message early this morning and now noticed it didnt stick so this one will be short since I will have to go back and take notes

Qita- Good luck with this cycle...

Katie- Great pic of DD & Dh, she looks so cute all bundled up in her skis

Leora- Yay for triggering tonight.. Your in my thoughts and prayers for your BFP

hopeisallihave- So sorry about the news, but maybe it was two and one is still growing... Stay hopeful till your next beta... Ill be praying for your miracle....

AFM- Still doing lupron it seems like forever before march gets here for me to start Follistim... Quick question, I am the one that asked my Dr if there was a way to stall my ER/ET due to work schedule and she said yes so that is why I am on Lupron for more then need be and I dont start Follistim till 4 weeks later but I keep thinking what if that messes up cycle, The nurse I spoke with Friday said it wouldnt that a lot of people do this to go around work, vacations etc... What are your thoughts??? Last time everything was done within 3 weeks this is taking me into 5... I am sure its fine cause the Dr said it was but I am still nervous... After ET/ER i get A/F so I dont know if that wil not make them stick... SO confused...