Winter 2010-2011 Cycle Board

[CJinNC]

Tammy.. I hope AF isn't too bad for you. Even if you had to wait a cycle 25 days isn't too bad... Mine are more like 35 days, yuk! I'm 13dpo and don't feel anything - no cramps, normal pms stuff, but it won't suprise me if AF just starts out of the blue. I tested a couple of days ago with a $ store test and it was bfn. I don't want to waste anymore on them at this point. If no AF by tomorrow then I may test again. My guess is she will be here first thing in the morning... or wait until I go out and buy a test! LOL

Margi... 18 eggs is awesome! I hope you have lots of little embies to choose from!

Has anyone opted to do the testing before ET? If I ever get the dough together for IVF and decide to try with my own eggs, I am only going to be able to do once, so I thought the testing might give me peace of mind to know they were healthy embies going back in. I just worry about them taking a cell if maybe it was supposed to be an arm or something... does that sound stupid? I mean, they are obviously removing something.... Just wondering if anyone else here has done it?

[lou71]

Kat -- I love that you are jumping right back in the game in March already! C'mon AF!!!

Anton -- That gene therapy you're doing sounds really complicated. I've never heard of anything like it. Amazing what they can do to increase our chances of this working, isn't it? I do feel better now after my u/s but I don't think I can use the word "relaxed" yet...lol.

HopethisworksM -- How was your second beta?

HopeisallIhave--- Can't wait for your u/s!!! Your beta's are amazing!

Lauren -- Oh no! I'm so sorry your insurance got denied. I hope the docs letter will sway them. Do you have frosties? Blasts? I think that would be an excellent option. Much less costly than a fresh cycle and about as effective if frozen with vitrification.

Tiger -- IUI today! Best of luck my friend. Your lining sounds perfect.

destonesmo-- Good luck on your ER tomorrow!!! Update us when you feel up to it.

SD -- Nice strong beta #! Congrats!

hotgreentea -- My FET's were medicated cycles (vs natural cycles) and always took a full two months. Much longer than a fresh cycle. There's some evidence that medicated cycles are slightly more effective than natural cycles according to Ghost.

Lyd10-- Good luck on your beta tomorrow! I'm pulling for you. I hope you get a wonderful surprise.

Margi -- 18 follies!!! WOWSA! That's an unbelievable response from a gal over 40. Your ER is just days away. I hope you wll update us from sunny Calif. Have a safe trip!

Leora -- How's the little POAS queen doing? Are you the new mayor of Crazy Town? It's still probably too early to detect a BFP but I am confident you will get one. What brand of sticks do you use in Israel? Do you have FRER there?

Qita -- Grow follies grow! Are you using ICSI? My clinic kept back up frozen sperm from DH as well but we never had to use it. Too bad your DH will miss the ER/ET! Won't that make a story for your little one someday. "Daddy got me knocked up from out of state." LOL

Tammy -- Welcome back from your get away. I'm sorry your drive home was so trecherous. I actually prefer the estrace tabs to the patches. Too many variables with absorption/falling off/itching from the glue/etc. I have always responded well to the tabs. My RE strongly believes that your ovaries need a cycle to "rest" before being stimulated again for best response. They stay swollen for a while after ER, at least mine always have. So I guess I'm in favor of waiting a cycle. Yours are nice and short, so 25 days isn't that bad. Estrace has never delayed my AF before. Although I don't think I've ever taken it without the progesterone. When I get a BFN, I get AF 3 days after stopping the progesterone.

CJ-- I have not done PGD or CGH testing if that's what you are referring to. But I would consider it very strongly if I were over 40 AND if I had at least 6 embies on day 3. My RE is not a fan of the testing. He said there's evidence that an abormality can be in one cell and not another and that embies can "auto-correct" as they grow. Also, abnormalities can start AFTER day 3 when the cell is extracted also. In either case, he said there's a risk of dumping good embies and of missing ones that are likely abnormal. This is why I didn't do it on past cycles. Maybe ask Ghost her thoughts?

Sorry to anyone I missed!

AFM -- I feel better after my u/s yesterday and getting to see that little embie with the heart flickering away. I'm still very nervous as RE said my m/c risk is somewhere around 10% at this point. But still, it's been cut in half. I'm choosing to be optimistic. I do get another u/s in a week on Tues 3/1. I cannot wait!! Then I've got an appt with my OB for 3/9 and she'll probably do another one. Weekly reassurance is what I need right now. The first trimester is so stressful! But I'm here and ecstatic to be pregnant. Thank you all for your support.

[HopeThisWorksM]

Second beta is in. 112 now. The doctor told us that this should have gone up more but sometimes it's slow in the beginning. We're taking another test tomorrow. I hate all this waiting

Just a back fill in. Our first beta was 55 on Friday night at 8 days after a d5t. He told us it should at least double by Tuesday morning which it did but he wanted a higher level. Hope there is no reason to worry

[qita71]

Qita...I love your name Mairi Anne...is it pronounced Mary Ann? It's so pretty. You are so brave letting DH go away while you are going through ER/ET alone. Will you have someone to drive you on ER day? How much longer do you expect to stim? How big are your follies?

AFM: My doc is out of the office till Saturday (doing a fundraiser in Orlando)...so I spoke to his colleague on the phone yesterday. All of our wtf appts are done over the phone. He thinks that I should wait 1 month and was shocked to hear about the whole estrogen thing...he was like "Wow! No kidding!" He also said that it sounds like I am one of those rare people who do not absorb the estrogen from the patches. Bill and I are going for all the genetic bloodwork today, when he gets off. My nurse emailed my regular doc to call me...and even though he dont have my chart with him, I do expect to hear from him anyhow. I dont think my regular doc will make me wait 1 cycle...but I do want his opinion. You know...if I had waited till Sunday at 17dpo (my clinic's normal beta day)...it would have been negative and we would be doing another cycle right away...but since I went in 3 days early...we know that I technically got pregnant and miscarried. AF/miscarriage is supposed to be here today, but since we added mega amounts of estrogen to me last Thurs-Sat...not sure if things will be delayed some now. I dont feel like it's coming at all. I am betting since we added all of that estrogen at the end...that my lining is super thick and that this is going to be a really really bad AF.

Anyone know if estrace can delay your AF?

Would you wait 1 cycle in my shoes? (My AF's are 25 days apart).

Hey Tammy

I really hope you get the help and support you need from your medics. It is never blooming straight forward is it?!

I think you know one of my good friends from back home from other boards- Hazel? She suggested I come on here- and very grateful I am too.

The spelling of my name is Scottish so its actually pronounced like 'Marry Anne'. Fraser being away next week is not ideal but at least we won't both be suffering! Taxis are really easy here in Dubai so will just get a taxi to/from the ER. Fraser is being enlisted to help me do a big food shop, blitz the flat clean and cook up some meals in case I don't feel on top form next week. I am not sure as to my timing.... last time I stimmed for 10 days, if the same then I would have ER on Tuesday. I think they are hoping to do a 5 day transfer. We'll see. Scan tomorrow morning to see how those follies are doing.

Good luck with the medics and I really hope AF isn't too bad!

Mairi Anne

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[qita71]

Qita...I love your name Mairi Anne...is it pronounced Mary Ann? It's so pretty. You are so brave letting DH go away while you are going through ER/ET alone. Will you have someone to drive you on ER day? How much longer do you expect to stim? How big are your follies?

AFM: My doc is out of the office till Saturday (doing a fundraiser in Orlando)...so I spoke to his colleague on the phone yesterday. All of our wtf appts are done over the phone. He thinks that I should wait 1 month and was shocked to hear about the whole estrogen thing...he was like "Wow! No kidding!" He also said that it sounds like I am one of those rare people who do not absorb the estrogen from the patches. Bill and I are going for all the genetic bloodwork today, when he gets off. My nurse emailed my regular doc to call me...and even though he dont have my chart with him, I do expect to hear from him anyhow. I dont think my regular doc will make me wait 1 cycle...but I do want his opinion. You know...if I had waited till Sunday at 17dpo (my clinic's normal beta day)...it would have been negative and we would be doing another cycle right away...but since I went in 3 days early...we know that I technically got pregnant and miscarried. AF/miscarriage is supposed to be here today, but since we added mega amounts of estrogen to me last Thurs-Sat...not sure if things will be delayed some now. I dont feel like it's coming at all. I am betting since we added all of that estrogen at the end...that my lining is super thick and that this is going to be a really really bad AF.

Anyone know if estrace can delay your AF?

Would you wait 1 cycle in my shoes? (My AF's are 25 days apart).

Hey Tammy

I really hope you get the help and support you need from your medics. It is never blooming straight forward is it?!

I think you know one of my good friends from back home from other boards- Hazel? She suggested I come on here- and very grateful I am too.

The spelling of my name is Scottish so its actually pronounced like 'Marry Anne'. Fraser being away next week is not ideal but at least we won't both be suffering! Taxis are really easy here in Dubai so will just get a taxi to/from the ER. Fraser is being enlisted to help me do a big food shop, blitz the flat clean and cook up some meals in case I don't feel on top form next week. I am not sure as to my timing.... last time I stimmed for 10 days, if the same then I would have ER on Tuesday. I think they are hoping to do a 5 day transfer. We'll see. Scan tomorrow morning to see how those follies are doing.

Good luck with the medics and I really hope AF isn't too bad!

Mairi Anne

x

[qita71]

Has anyone opted to do the testing before ET? If I ever get the dough together for IVF and decide to try with my own eggs, I am only going to be able to do once, so I thought the testing might give me peace of mind to know they were healthy embies going back in. I just worry about them taking a cell if maybe it was supposed to be an arm or something... does that sound stupid? I mean, they are obviously removing something.... Just wondering if anyone else here has done it?

Hi CJ
We were advised to do PGD on our first IVF cycle because I had previously had 1 miscarriage and am 39. Am now not entirely convinced by the reasoning as I understand that the primary candidates are those who recurrently miscarry. It also, of course, doubled the price of the cycle. All 4 of our fertilised embryos were tested on day 3 and found to be fine. They then developed slightly slowly between day 3 and day 5 and I ended up having a BNF. I can't help but wonder whether the PGD did damage the embies in some way. Also the RE said as all fine on the PGD last time, no need to do this cycle- again I do not follow this logic but we are not doing it.
Good luck whatever you decide!
Mairi Anne

[CJinNC]

Lou and Mairi, thanks for the input. I knew it wasn't quite "perfected" yet. I guess i will wait and see if I ever get to that point.

Mairi.. my grandmother immigrated to the US from Scotland. I never got to meet her, although my father says she was a mean old lady anyway, so it was just as well I have always wanted to take my kids there ... some day!

Hope.. so sorry the beta didn't raise like they had hoped. Maybe the next one will quadruple.

[LYD10]

Second beta is in. 112 now. The doctor told us that this should have gone up more but sometimes it's slow in the beginning. We're taking another test tomorrow. I hate all this waiting

Just a back fill in. Our first beta was 55 on Friday night at 8 days after a d5t. He told us it should at least double by Tuesday morning which it did but he wanted a higher level. Hope there is no reason to worry

Hope - please try not to worry. i know easier said then done. but betas rise differently early on. hopefully tomorrow you'll have a nice rise!

AFM, i am waiting and waiting for tomorrow's blood test. i am going to be so nervous tomorrow waiting for the call. but arent we all?! for some reason i am allowing myself to be a bit more hopeful lately. i guess looking back i've had a few strange symptoms that could be interpreted one way or another. a couple of times i was turned off by frying smells. i've had a strange headache and eyeball ache for a few days on and off. but then of course i've also had a cold - so all of this could be easily chucked up to that. i guess if i listen really really carefully - perhaps i felt a few stretching pings in my uterus - but definitely not as "loud and clear" as last time. anyway - no point in doing the guessing game, i'll know soon enough - right about in 24 hours.

Please please please work!!!

[leorira11]

Mairi Anne (qita) - I'm glad you are finding this cycle easier. It's a lot easier when you know what to expect, but then again, each additional cycle adds more stress and fear about a BFN. Sorry your missing your ski trip - but hopefully it's for a good reason!

nwquiz - welcome to the 2ww! Do you have a beta blood test scheduled or do you do HPTs?

Tammy - my clinic does only the estrogen tablets (orally). I'm glad - I hate patches. I tried the birth control patch (instead of taking the pill.... back when I cared about birth control!) and I hated always having it on. My doctors make me wait at least one cycle in between, but then again - according to them - I have all the time in the world. So I don't know for you...

Lou - I buy my HPTs on eBay - I buy ones that have a 10iu/ml sensitivity, so almost as good as FRER. I'm a little crazy right now. I'm thinking about peeing tomorrow... which is only 9dpr. Crap! Why can't time go faster?

Hopethisworks M - Sorry your beta wasn't as high as expected, but it's definitely rising. Good luck on your next test tomorrow.

Carol - no advice about the PGD, but I know that some people have done it. Maybe ask also on the "pregnant after treatment" board.

LYD - less than 24 hours! yay! I also don't know whether the things I feel in the 2ww are symptoms of pregnancy, or just regular things. Tomorrow you'll know!

AFM - how do I stop freaking out? I keep crying whenever I think about a BFN. All of our 'plan B's are just not really good options at this point. Another IVF? I'm not sure I could do that.

My therapist asked me today to think of a metaphor of a place that describes the IVF for me. I came up with the idea of a bus stop. All I can do is sit and wait for the bus to come. Sometimes, the waiting isn't so bad. The weather is nice, I have a good book to read while I wait, I'm not in a hurry to get somewhere. Sometimes the waiting is awful. It's raining, I'm late, I'm bored. People keep suggesting that I leave the bus stop (ie, take a break from the TTC) with the plan to come back later to get the bus, but that doesn't help me catch the bus - only lowers the chance I'll get the bus. Also, it doesn't get rid of all the time I've wasted sitting at the bus stop. Does this make sense? There is just so much waiting (waiting to start, waiting for SnS, waiting for phone calls from the clinic, waiting for appointments, waiting to see the fert report, waiting for betas, waiting for u/s). I'm so sick of it.

I also just found out that someone else I know is pregnant. I happen to know that she got pregnant on her second cycle of TTC. But that's not what makes me jealous. What makes me super jealous is her confidence that she will have a baby in October. She is planning her summer around being pregnant. She is looking at little baby clothes. I can't feel that way when I'm pregnant. I'm so nervous about another loss. When I got pregnant again this summer, I was so nervous about another 2nd trimester loss that a miscarriage didn't even occur to me. Now I'm so worried that I'll be surprised in a different horrible way while I worry about one of the two terrible losses I've had happening again.

Just a few more days.....


THE LIST:




-swaters2815 (Stephanie) - starting mid-January
-kbillsy – IUI 12.4, Beta BFN - saving up money to do it again!
-jmbella (Jenn) - waiting to start late-Jan/early-Feb
-Sunshine1576 - PLAN: Lap surgery, 2 rounds of IUI and then IVF in June (if not already pregnant!)
-anton - blood test on 2.25, RE appt on 2.28
-Penny100 (Darlene) - next cycle in April - good luck!
-TammyS – ER approx 3.10-13
-jkulab – AF is here! waiting to start stims



-Krisnjer - AF is here! on OCP, Suppression check on 1.19, ER/ET early Feb
-andsahsa - starting stims mid Feb, approx ET 3.3
-lauren1171 - on BCP waiting for insurance approval...grr...



- andrea3821 - COME ON, AF!



-NancyB - FET delayed to April
-Katie1231 - FET delayed to 3.18
-luv2bamom (Subha) - FET on 1.25
-ConnieC - FET 2.17



-Kynlee - AF started 1.18 - start Lupron Feb 6th - approx ER March 15



-deftonesmo -started stims 2.14, ER 2.24 - ET 2.27
-margi26 – started Lupron! - AF is here! - approx ER 3.1
-qita71 (Mairi Anne) - started stims 2.17
-Tiger04 - AF is here! HSG 2.17 - IUI approx 2.23-4



-JustSoLost (Shell)- ER 2.16
-longtimerivf - started stims - ER 2.20



- nat&alex - FET 2.9 - beta 2.17
-LYD10 -start stims on 1.29 - ER 2.10 - beta 2.24
-CjofNC (Carol) – timed intercourse - started AF 1.25
-wannabeamum (Samantha) - started stimming 1.31, ER 2.16 - ET 2.19 - beta 3.7 (at 3pm)
-leorira11 (Leora, aka listmistress!) - started stims 2.1, ER 2.15 - ET 2.20, beta 3.3
-nwquiz - stimming for IUI - Monday morning 2.21 - beta




-anacris (Nov) – FET 11.29, Beta 12.11 = 444, u/s on 12.28 - one happy, healthy baby!
-rypell1985 (Ryann) – start Lupron 10.11, lining check 11.29, FET 12.3, Beta 12.15 = 275, beta #2 = 824 - u/s = twins!
-annashope – natural IUI 12.2, Beta = 247, Beta#2 = 725 - one happy, healthy baby!
-kildean23 – FET 12.14, beta 12.27 = 565!, 2nd beta = 1315!, u/s on 1.6 - 2 sacs! next u/s 1.31
-taxcplforivf (Ginger) – start stims 12.4, ER 12.15, ET 12.20, beta 12.29 = 68!, beta #2 - 1466!, u/s 1.17
-BakersBaby (Kelly) – start stims 12/3, ER 1.13, ET 12.16, beta 12.30 = 365!, beta #2 1.7 = 3300, u/s one happy, healthy baby! OB visit on 2.2
- Karian - SURPRISE SPONTANEOUS BFP! beta = 101!, beta #2 - 566, u/s 1.18 - one happy, healthy baby!
-krcaja (Kristin) - ER 1.11, ET 1.16, beta 1.28 = 364! next beta 1.31 = 1565! u/s 2.15 = YAY! One healthy heartbeat and a twin growing more slowly. Fingers crossed for Baby B.
- lou71 (Lou) - beta 2.4 = 290! next beta 2.7 = 780! U/s on 2.22 - one happy, healthy baby!
-HopeIsAllIHave (Ashley) - ER 1.28 - ET 2.3 - beta 2.11 = BFP! 133, beta2 = 125, beta3 = 236, beta4 = 667!.... waiting in beta hell..... but things are looking better! beta 5= 3754! u/s on Friday 2.25
-SDtrying#2 - beta 2.22 - BFP on HPT at 10dpo! beta = 18 at 10dpo, beta2= 67!, beta3 =497! u/s at 6 weeks
- HopeThisWorksM ER 2.5, ET 2.10 beta 2.18 = 55!, beta 2- 2.22 = 112, beta 3


-Krys – started estrogen 11.11, FET 11.30, Beta 12.14- BFN
-Cshell717 (Mishell) – start stims 11.22, ER 12.3 w/ ET 12.6, beta 12.20 -BFN
-x0Heather0x – FET, b/w 12.3, u/s 12.10, FET 12.16, beta 12.28 - BFN
-Riya - beta on 1.7 BFN
-Jamiep03 - ET 12.27, beta 1.9 = 21.8, chemical
-kariberri517 - 3dt on 12.10, beta on 12.27 = 392, 12.29 = 472, 12.30 = 576...
-Sweetpea614 (Kat) - ER 1.14, ET 1.16, beta 1.28 BFN
-lynniecat - started stims 1.4 - ER 1.16 - no eggs at ER
-Trusting (Amanda) - started stims 1.10, ER 1/24 - beta 2.4 BFN
-amanda1979 - ER on 1.27 - ET 1.30 - beta 2.11 BFN
-Kimber Baby - ER 1.28 , ET 2.3 - beta 2.14 BFN
-hotgreentea (Sherry) - start stims 1.23 - ER 2.3 - ET 2.9, beta 2.17 - BFN
-Sunshine 12 - start stims 1.27 - ER 2.6 - ET 2.9 - beta 2.20 - BFN.... taking a few months break...
-Kerri_789 - started stims 1.26 - ER 2.7 ET 2.9 - beta 2.21 BFN

[CJinNC]

Leora, thats a good analogy. I guess I could add that my bus may never come because its old and broken down! LOL But you hit the nail on the head... its alot of waiting and uncertainty. I wish instead of a bus you could take the fast train to a baby.. or maybe a jet plane! I've got all of my hope and PMA focused on you... not just a BFP, but a success, full-term bus ride!

[LYD10]

Leora - i now what you mean about the annoying confidence of people that have never experienced failure. its' like they dont know it could be any other way.

[anton]

Hi everyone


Sweetpea- I am positive that this therapy worth every penny (USD1,075) and all the pain and I get a BFP on this cycle! ...I am getting my AF 4-5 March too! we are starting together ...I am doing the antagonist protocol though and so I am starting as soon as my AF is here. By the 26th I will be getting my BFP! yey!

Hepethisworks- 112 is not bad! dont get your hopes down dear. I will pray for your beta to rise in full speed! Hang in there!

HopeisallIhave- Thank you for your kind words dear Yeap, I really hope this is IT for me

Lauren-I am so sorry about your insurance! I hope you win this battle!

Tiger- Good for you eating healthy girl! I am doing OK, just waiting to start my cycle patiently but very eager to start! I am glad that everthing is doing good at your end. Looks like estradiol is doing wonders!

Lostgirl- Good luck on your U/S!

Nquiz- Hang in there PUPO girl! [/img]

Tammy- Genetic tests take the longest of all tests to give results! So, yes, if I remember well it takes about 3-4 weeks, so it sounds right. These are very specialized tests that need time to give answers. If you haven't done any DNA tests yet, maybe you should you never know what you might found out. Look at me! ..To be honest with you , beign able having Zach in the first place this might be a sign that there's nothing wrong with your and DH DNA. But, even then, in cases of unexfplained infertility I guess you go through various tests and do whatever it takes that will give you some answers! right! I hope AF doesn't come hard on you!

CjinNC- I've read about the testing and I thought of doing it many times but never did. The procedure is a very delicate one and I guess I am always too scared messing up my embies. The whole procedure can cause a flaws to the embies and No Si! I dont want that happenng to my embies!

Rio- Ouao! Glad theres a real connection to THE Rio! I bet it must have been really nice growing uo there! I will ask you for advice on what to visit when I go Sorry about the needles ...but you got to do what you got to do!

Krcja- Thank you for your kind words I hope Baby B makes it! you got a fighter there hon! But if it doesn't make it Baby A is going to make you a proud mommy for sure! Good luck to you!

Kynlee- Thank you for your kind words I am sure its all worth it already I am so looking forward to becoming a mommy! ...Congratulations on the Godson!

Deftonesmo- Sounds good to me! 10 good eggs is very good # I hope the rest catch up soon! SO ER is tommorrow!! I'll be praying for you to be a smooth and very productive one Baby dust to you!

SDTrying- Excellent news!!! Happy for you!

Margi- "My little nouvellas!" That was hillarious! You cracked me here I told you I write a lot and said bring it on! 18 follies!!!! You go you egg machine woman!!! I hope your sns gives you great news and then off to beautifull Californial!! Yeah! Baby!!

Leorira- Hey! thanks on the dog info! ...I hope this cycle will be IT for me and then in a couple of years we will get that puppy. So, puppy project on hold and Baby project on board! I prefer that! ...You! YOi! hang in there! Good news are on the way for you! Stick embies and grow!!!!! Looks like mommy cant wait to meet you! Send her a sign so doesn't have a nervous breakdown!!

Qita- I hope you feel better already and take good care of your self. About your ER and ET wouldn't you guys prefer a FET? its a pitty tha your DH will miss the conception of his baby/babies!!!!

sorry If I left anyone behind....11:30pm now and I am dead tired, my eyes are not oppening but I forced my self to sent a post so that I dont stray behind from you guys! ...my DH is our for business dinner then our to watch a soccer game with some colleagues of his... I went to visit some relatives out of town today with my mom and I am feeling really tired from driving 4hrs ( 2hrs to go and 2hrs to get back home) we had a really good time though, can't complain we had a lovely day and now I am waiting for this movie to finish (Love Happens)....which I have watched a hundred times but it happens to be on TV so I decided to watch it while posting here...


So, Good night my cyber friends and lots of baby dust to you!!!!!



anton

[krcaja]

Just checking in....

Qita-how big are your follies now?

Nwquiz-Welcome to the 2ww aka 2 weeks of torture!

Margi-18!!!! Wow!!! CA or bust!! with 18 you just might!!! Take it easy drink plenty of water!! You are carrying precious cargo!

Tammy-I am hoping your dr has some answers and will take you seriously regarding your need for ongoing estrogen.

Tiger-Congrats on PUPO

Leora- I think thats an excellent analogy. Its truly how I felt with all my failed IUI's. It felt like everyone was getting pregnant around me. I felt like I have bus fare too....why can't I get on the bus! Plus I worked with women who had children that they abused and neglected and they just kept having children. Talk about frustrating. They seem like a special limo showed up at the bus stop and just to pick them up and I was stuck standing there watching the world go by as I am stuck in the world of infertility. It is impossible to just move on and go ahead with your daily life!!! This will be your turn to not only get on the bus but to reach your final destination!

[LYD10]

i just realized that all the possible "signs" i might have been feeling - slight nausea 2 times and headaches - they are all just possible progesterone side effects! this is my first cycle on PIO and no wonder i havent felt these symptoms before. So i am back to being pretty hopeless about tomorrow's beta.
i was thinking about that and basically early pregnancy signs are all progesterone signs - because that's what early pregnancy is - elevated levels of progesterone ( and HCG). But we get triggered with HCG and we dont get any pregnancy signs after the trigger. so early preg signs are just progesterone signs - and since we are all on progesterone suppliments it is impossible for us to tell pregnancy from just progesterone suppliments.
i cannot wait for tomorrow to come soon enough. and i am also super scared. i dont even know how i am going to handle it in the middle of a work day.

[krcaja]

Lyd- Don't despair!! I am taking PIO and had symptoms from what I thought was the PIO but it turned out it was the two embies that stuck!!!!!Keep PMA!!! Its so important! Just keep telling yourself its negative until the beta says so!