Aly,
As usual, Tracey has given excellent advice so I can really only echo what she has said. Try to deal with one thing at a time as I can tell you're feeling very overwhelmed right now. Think positive about the 4 embryos you have waiting. Things will fall into place so that you can have your transfer and hopefully by that time they will have dealt with any medical issues that might have caused a problem for you so that your chances of success will be even greater than if they had done the ET now.
Take care,
{{Staci}}
June Cycle Buddies
Hi, thanks Loopy for the date reminder. I really have no excuse to be so fuzzy about it all. I realised today that they will follow a natural cycle ie. ovulation is usually day 14-15 but starting from stim date of 8th. I was teaching when my braincells switched back on and I wanted to stop the lesson and talk about my brainwave...but of course I didn't. But Loopy, you might be right - provided no need to delay (this time I'm on 250 of Puregon, last time it was 200 so I should be OK. I'm seriously old so I need the extra help 
) We'll only be a few days apart so can suffer the 2ww together then celebrate our good news PMA PMA PMA 
Kel - good news, 8 follies sounds fine. I'm not sure what size is good but the clinic know what they are doing. Great that they can be so flexible and reassure you at the same time.
Tracey/Dagny. I'm curious about your comments on Ovitrelle. I've got that in the fridge too - as well as my Puregon. Your posts implied it was one or the other - or did I misunderstand?
I guess the stims are going well, it's only Day 2. I've had headaches for 4 days now and today's is the worst yet. I'm also thirsty all the time. Anyone else notice these effects? I might pop into the clinic and just check. I hate using Norwegian on the phone so avoid it at all costs, esp. when we're talking about something so important.
Postive thoughts for us all.
love
Debra.
) We'll only be a few days apart so can suffer the 2ww together then celebrate our good news PMA PMA PMA Kel - good news, 8 follies sounds fine. I'm not sure what size is good but the clinic know what they are doing. Great that they can be so flexible and reassure you at the same time.
Tracey/Dagny. I'm curious about your comments on Ovitrelle. I've got that in the fridge too - as well as my Puregon. Your posts implied it was one or the other - or did I misunderstand?
I guess the stims are going well, it's only Day 2. I've had headaches for 4 days now and today's is the worst yet. I'm also thirsty all the time. Anyone else notice these effects? I might pop into the clinic and just check. I hate using Norwegian on the phone so avoid it at all costs, esp. when we're talking about something so important.
Postive thoughts for us all.
love
Debra.
Hi there
Aly -
I am sorry you are feeling so fed up. It is good you got 4 fertilised and I can understand your frustration at not being able to have ET today. In my 1st tmt they were going to postpone my ET and I went mad I was at huge risk of major OHSS and I had bled a bit like you and they really didn't want to do it. I begged and begged and the outcome was horrendous. I collapsed within minutes of ET in the middle of London Bridge 
(Dh was getting the car) and ended up in hospital for all my 2ww. Needless to say it was a negative and in hind sight I wished we had frozen them. I do believe things happen for a reason and when the time is right it will happen. I hope you start to feel a bit stronger soon and get yourself fit and wel better than you've ever been for ET when it is the best time.
Debra - Tracey mentioned Ovitrelle to me as it is a better drug for how shall I put it? The more 'mature ladies'
(maybe in body but not in mind for me then ) I must have written it wrongly as I think I meant instead of the FSH drug Preganyl 
Ovitrelle is the FSH drug isn't it Tracey? God, I'm confusing myself now 
Sorry to have worried you Debs - can I call you that? I am still reeling at the prospect of being in the 'mature lady' bracket! I feel like a teenager most of the time not a mature woman Aaaarrrrggggg.
Kel - Follies sound like they are doing well! See, nothing to panic about ..............Yet! I am sure there will be something else for you to worry about and we can set your mind at rest, it's all part of the tmt honey.
By the way did I mention it's my birthday on the 21st !!!!!!!!!
How is everyone else today???
Love Dagny xkx Nearly 36 !!!
Aly -
I am sorry you are feeling so fed up. It is good you got 4 fertilised and I can understand your frustration at not being able to have ET today. In my 1st tmt they were going to postpone my ET and I went mad I was at huge risk of major OHSS and I had bled a bit like you and they really didn't want to do it. I begged and begged and the outcome was horrendous. I collapsed within minutes of ET in the middle of London Bridge (Dh was getting the car) and ended up in hospital for all my 2ww. Needless to say it was a negative and in hind sight I wished we had frozen them. I do believe things happen for a reason and when the time is right it will happen. I hope you start to feel a bit stronger soon and get yourself fit and wel better than you've ever been for ET when it is the best time.Debra - Tracey mentioned Ovitrelle to me as it is a better drug for how shall I put it? The more 'mature ladies'
(maybe in body but not in mind for me then ) I must have written it wrongly as I think I meant instead of the FSH drug Preganyl Ovitrelle is the FSH drug isn't it Tracey? God, I'm confusing myself now Sorry to have worried you Debs - can I call you that? I am still reeling at the prospect of being in the 'mature lady' bracket! I feel like a teenager most of the time not a mature woman Aaaarrrrggggg. Kel - Follies sound like they are doing well! See, nothing to panic about ..............Yet! I am sure there will be something else for you to worry about and we can set your mind at rest, it's all part of the tmt honey.
By the way did I mention it's my birthday on the 21st !!!!!!!!!
How is everyone else today???
Love Dagny xkx Nearly 36 !!!
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Aly - hope things are slightly clearer today and you can start to see your way out of the fog! WE are thinking of you.
Dagny - yes you did get a bit mixed up re the Ovitrelle and yes you did mention your birthday - it is in my mobile phone to remind me but Nik's is the day after so all go!mI am 38 in July - yikes!
Debra - re Ovitrelle - it is the "Ripener" to put it another way. The two occasions i have had fresh cycles (the other 3 have been natural FET's) I have used Synarel then Gonal F - the first time we got 29 follies and used Profasi for the final one to ripen them off! We ended up with 15 eggs but none good enough for freezing - 8 fertilised properly! The second time they offered me Ovitrelle - it is more expensive as made from urine (TMI - sorry) but this is much closer to the real thing - and the price difference is a few pounds - they offer this to maturer ladies who are having problems with growing follies (not in my case) and those who have less mature eggs - they thought in my case it just might make the eggs better quality if this makes sense - so second time I was on synarel then gonal f for 5 days (don't ask - I stim at a million miles an hour even though was 36 at the time!) and then Ovitrelle as the ripener - it is a
to get in - very oily and quite painful. I had 27 follies so less than the time before but was hoping there might be better eggs - one hour 40 mins later and DH thought I had died in theatre they had retrieved 41 eggs - yeh I know like a battery hen. THe next thing was to see the quality - they seemed fine and after all the itsy bitsies we ended up with 2 fresh and 9 frozen so I was chuffed. The fresh did not work as I said to ALy I was borderline OHSS and drank 10 litres a day to try and get my fluid levels up - they had never seen anythign like it and went ahead with ET - bit daft really with hindsite - oh well.
Ask about it - I don't know if it made a difference but did ask my specialist about the results of the trial they were doing (they had free lots of it and she gave it to me in exchange for filling out some bit of paper - very tough!)She said they were most positive especially with the maturer lady as the results had been excellent but not enough patients to fully draw conclusions! Sorry banged on a bit here as usual.
Good luck
Love
Tracey
xxx
Dagny - yes you did get a bit mixed up re the Ovitrelle and yes you did mention your birthday - it is in my mobile phone to remind me but Nik's is the day after so all go!mI am 38 in July - yikes!
Debra - re Ovitrelle - it is the "Ripener" to put it another way. The two occasions i have had fresh cycles (the other 3 have been natural FET's) I have used Synarel then Gonal F - the first time we got 29 follies and used Profasi for the final one to ripen them off! We ended up with 15 eggs but none good enough for freezing - 8 fertilised properly! The second time they offered me Ovitrelle - it is more expensive as made from urine (TMI - sorry) but this is much closer to the real thing - and the price difference is a few pounds - they offer this to maturer ladies who are having problems with growing follies (not in my case) and those who have less mature eggs - they thought in my case it just might make the eggs better quality if this makes sense - so second time I was on synarel then gonal f for 5 days (don't ask - I stim at a million miles an hour even though was 36 at the time!) and then Ovitrelle as the ripener - it is a
to get in - very oily and quite painful. I had 27 follies so less than the time before but was hoping there might be better eggs - one hour 40 mins later and DH thought I had died in theatre they had retrieved 41 eggs - yeh I know like a battery hen. THe next thing was to see the quality - they seemed fine and after all the itsy bitsies we ended up with 2 fresh and 9 frozen so I was chuffed. The fresh did not work as I said to ALy I was borderline OHSS and drank 10 litres a day to try and get my fluid levels up - they had never seen anythign like it and went ahead with ET - bit daft really with hindsite - oh well.Ask about it - I don't know if it made a difference but did ask my specialist about the results of the trial they were doing (they had free lots of it and she gave it to me in exchange for filling out some bit of paper - very tough!)She said they were most positive especially with the maturer lady as the results had been excellent but not enough patients to fully draw conclusions! Sorry banged on a bit here as usual.
Good luck
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Hi again
Thanks Tracey for making it a bit clearer about Ovitrelle.
I have just this minute had the call from my hospital and we are not getting funding again I have to admit it was a long shot and worth persuing but there you go. So, we have to pay again. The drugs are been ordered as I type (hopefully) and I should get them in a day or two and then when AF arrives it's GO, GO, GO!!!
How exciting
Love Dagny xkx
Thanks Tracey for making it a bit clearer about Ovitrelle.
I have just this minute had the call from my hospital and we are not getting funding again
I have to admit it was a long shot and worth persuing but there you go. So, we have to pay again. The drugs are been ordered as I type (hopefully) and I should get them in a day or two and then when AF arrives it's GO, GO, GO!!!How exciting
Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Morning! 
Aly - I am so sorry that your Et won't go ahead - it's not fair. I just hope you are doing ok and we are all thinking of you.. But I am so pleased you have 4 embies waiting for you, and as Tracey said those FET's do work, I hope you can feel strong real soon...
Debra - I am also really thirsty all the time, even though I am drinking the right amount of water+more.. My Nurse said this would probably happen so hope that helps.. Is it warm in Norway at the moment? It's so humid here which is not helping the never-ending thirrrrrst!
Dagny - Birthday sooooon!!!!!!! Any plans?? Thanks so much for reasuring me about everything, so paranoid about everything now!
Loopy - hope it's still all going well, and not long till those stims now!
Tracey - How are you getting on?? A quick question - how did you manage 10 LITRES of water????? Hope you and twins are ok!
I am having quite a lot of pain now, last night was pretty uncomfortable but I'm glad as least I think something's happening.. Still surprised at how high my dose is - 400 of menopur at 28 on first go - does anyone else think that's pretty high?? I am shocked, but if that's what it's got to be then fine... Especially as all my tests pre tmt were so positive for responding...? Oh well... Hope there are more results on tomorrows scan..
Bye for now buddies,
Kel x
Aly - I am so sorry that your Et won't go ahead - it's not fair. I just hope you are doing ok and we are all thinking of you.. But I am so pleased you have 4 embies waiting for you, and as Tracey said those FET's do work, I hope you can feel strong real soon...
Debra - I am also really thirsty all the time, even though I am drinking the right amount of water+more.. My Nurse said this would probably happen so hope that helps.. Is it warm in Norway at the moment? It's so humid here which is not helping the never-ending thirrrrrst!
Dagny - Birthday sooooon!!!!!!!
Any plans?? Thanks so much for reasuring me about everything, so paranoid about everything now! Loopy - hope it's still all going well, and not long till those stims now!
Tracey - How are you getting on??
A quick question - how did you manage 10 LITRES of water????? Hope you and twins are ok!I am having quite a lot of pain now, last night was pretty uncomfortable but I'm glad as least I think something's happening.. Still surprised at how high my dose is - 400 of menopur at 28 on first go - does anyone else think that's pretty high?? I am shocked, but if that's what it's got to be then fine...
Especially as all my tests pre tmt were so positive for responding...? Oh well... Hope there are more results on tomorrows scan..Bye for now buddies,
Kel x
Dagny,
Sorry the funding didn't come through. We have to pay for everything out of our own pocket as well. So much for our savings. Here in the U.S. there are only a few states which mandate that insurance companies cover infertility treatment and mine isn't one of them. I guess all the money will seem worth it if it works, right?
On a positive note, glad you are able to get started soon!
Staci
Sorry the funding didn't come through. We have to pay for everything out of our own pocket as well. So much for our savings. Here in the U.S. there are only a few states which mandate that insurance companies cover infertility treatment and mine isn't one of them. I guess all the money will seem worth it if it works, right?
On a positive note, glad you are able to get started soon!
Staci
Ooh, good news Dagny that you can start as soon as AF arrives, next week right? Sorry there's no funding but as you said, no harm in asking! no we haven't forgotten you're 36 very soon...so young
Ovitrelle is more than welcome if it helps. I don't like the sound of its oilyness but I should be able to cope it's going into my blubber anyway!
love
Debra.
Ovitrelle is more than welcome if it helps. I don't like the sound of its oilyness but I should be able to cope
it's going into my blubber anyway!love
Debra.
Hi Staci
I have been lucky as we did have the first 2 tmt's funded and we paid for the 3rd which did work! We were not depending on getting the funding but it seemed silly not to try to see if we were elegible for it.
It will deffo be worth it when we get our little miracles in our arms in the end won't it?
Thinking positive thoughts
Love Dagny xkx
I have been lucky as we did have the first 2 tmt's funded and we paid for the 3rd which did work! We were not depending on getting the funding but it seemed silly not to try to see if we were elegible for it.
It will deffo be worth it when we get our little miracles in our arms in the end won't it?
Thinking positive thoughts
Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Hi All
New to site - although have dipped in and out for the last 12 months, so am familar with some of your histories already, its your experiences that really gave me the push I needed to agree to go for it again after trying but getting no where with another clinic early last year.
Finally started IVF treatment, started sniffing on 27th May, and injections (Gonal-F 3oo units) yesterday, and Dexa (something or other) tablets, some sort of steroid.
Having read about everyone elses experiences was expecting all sorts of side effects but so far apart from having zero tolerance at work last week seem to feel completely normal (whatever that is). Always drink about 2 litres of water a day, but have probably been drinking more but it has been hot, although was hot in bed last night.
Scan on 16th to see whats happening.......we'll keep you all posted. Nice to know that there are others out there going through the same thing, although its amazing how differently each clinic approaches the treatment. Asked mine about taking baby asprin and they shot that down in flames, talked about it possibily causing pelvic bleeds and other dramatic sounding things, so not really sure why they aren't happy with that, got a bit frustrated with them cause this will be our only attempt, for various reasons, and we want to do all we can to maximise the chances. Still can't take it now.
Am planning to take the whole 2ww off work, and can't help thinking that timing wise it will be great to have 2 weeks to lounge around at home in the nice weather (watch it rain for 2 weeks now), much better than being stuck in front of day time tv during the drab grey winter.
DeeDee
New to site - although have dipped in and out for the last 12 months, so am familar with some of your histories already, its your experiences that really gave me the push I needed to agree to go for it again after trying but getting no where with another clinic early last year.
Finally started IVF treatment, started sniffing on 27th May, and injections (Gonal-F 3oo units) yesterday, and Dexa (something or other) tablets, some sort of steroid.
Having read about everyone elses experiences was expecting all sorts of side effects but so far apart from having zero tolerance at work last week seem to feel completely normal (whatever that is). Always drink about 2 litres of water a day, but have probably been drinking more but it has been hot, although was hot in bed last night.
Scan on 16th to see whats happening.......we'll keep you all posted. Nice to know that there are others out there going through the same thing, although its amazing how differently each clinic approaches the treatment. Asked mine about taking baby asprin and they shot that down in flames, talked about it possibily causing pelvic bleeds and other dramatic sounding things, so not really sure why they aren't happy with that, got a bit frustrated with them cause this will be our only attempt, for various reasons, and we want to do all we can to maximise the chances. Still can't take it now.
Am planning to take the whole 2ww off work, and can't help thinking that timing wise it will be great to have 2 weeks to lounge around at home in the nice weather (watch it rain for 2 weeks now), much better than being stuck in front of day time tv during the drab grey winter.
DeeDee
Kel
Don't ask re the 10 litres - I really used not to drink much but was so stubborn when they told me might not be able to have ET - stubborn I still am - just kept going - they said they have never in history seen anyone manage to walk in after so many eggs and could not work out why there was not free fluid floating around - had flushed it out! They reckon this stubborness and unwillingness to give in whatever has served me well.........
Debra - the ovitrelle - will be fine in the rear - I had it in the leg - it comes in a glass phial with a bung thing - not like my gonal f and took me nearly an hour to get it all out as is highly pressurised - is a nack - stang more so be warned but does the job very nicely I can tell you!
Dagny - so sorry about the funding but pleased you are on your way - not taking those clothes back are you?
Dee Dee - good luck - you aren't the one in recruitment are you as used to talk to someone called Dee Dee before the sites came down.
Love
Tracey
xxx
Don't ask re the 10 litres - I really used not to drink much but was so stubborn when they told me might not be able to have ET - stubborn I still am - just kept going - they said they have never in history seen anyone manage to walk in after so many eggs and could not work out why there was not free fluid floating around - had flushed it out! They reckon this stubborness and unwillingness to give in whatever has served me well.........
Debra - the ovitrelle - will be fine in the rear - I had it in the leg - it comes in a glass phial with a bung thing - not like my gonal f and took me nearly an hour to get it all out as is highly pressurised - is a nack - stang more so be warned but does the job very nicely I can tell you!
Dagny - so sorry about the funding but pleased you are on your way - not taking those clothes back are you?
Dee Dee - good luck - you aren't the one in recruitment are you as used to talk to someone called Dee Dee before the sites came down.
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Hi, I have a major project to finish today...hence all the posts 
the P after my name should stand for procrastinator!!
Kel - thanks for the reassurance re. being thirsty. I'm making an effort but it's just that...I don't naturally want to glug drinks all day. It has been nice here, 20s ish but today, lots of rain and about 10 degrees (50 for our US pals). Good for the skin as I constantly remind myself.
DeeDee - welcome. Are you in the US? Your dates are very,very similar to those of Loopy (Lou) and I. We can suffer together! Not sure I envy you taking 2ww off from work. I might be quiet workwise but it won't be by choice. This will be my 4th 2ww and no time can ever pass so slowly. I find it excruciating. Talking personally, I'd rather be distracted albeit with a quiet 3 days at the start, which is when they say the most likely time for tmt to succeed takes place. If I've no work then I'll just have to find something gentle to do to help pass the days.
Hi to everyone.
love
Debra.
the P after my name should stand for procrastinator!!Kel - thanks for the reassurance re. being thirsty. I'm making an effort but it's just that...I don't naturally want to glug drinks all day. It has been nice here, 20s ish but today, lots of rain and about 10 degrees (50 for our US pals). Good for the skin as I constantly remind myself.
DeeDee - welcome. Are you in the US? Your dates are very,very similar to those of Loopy (Lou) and I. We can suffer together! Not sure I envy you taking 2ww off from work. I might be quiet workwise but it won't be by choice. This will be my 4th 2ww and no time can ever pass so slowly. I find it excruciating. Talking personally, I'd rather be distracted albeit with a quiet 3 days at the start, which is when they say the most likely time for tmt to succeed takes place. If I've no work then I'll just have to find something gentle to do to help pass the days.
Hi to everyone.
love
Debra.
I would just like to say Hi to everyone and I am so sorry for being a crap cycle watcher , as you know I have had 2 weeks off work and My cousin from Canada has been here to visit and after having my negative 3 weeks ago she has been an absolute tonic. unfortunately she goes home tomorrow and I will get into my old routien again 
sorry I will have to take a few days to catch up with every ones news as I am totally dislexic !!!
ALY
I am so sorry , but it will be worth it in the end and Frozen cycles are aparently the same % as fresh now adays, it will come right in the end. Thinking of you .
Dagny
Great news that you are starting TMT soon you know I will be there for you , cant wait to see you tomorrow .
BRON
Did you test today ?????? have you got good news to share ???
anyway take care everyone
Trace x
sorry I will have to take a few days to catch up with every ones news as I am totally dislexic !!!
ALY
I am so sorry , but it will be worth it in the end and Frozen cycles are aparently the same % as fresh now adays, it will come right in the end. Thinking of you .
Dagny
Great news that you are starting TMT soon you know I will be there for you , cant wait to see you tomorrow .
BRON
Did you test today ?????? have you got good news to share ???
anyway take care everyone
Trace x
1st cycle own eggs Neg
2nd cycle own eggs Neg
3rd cycle cousins eggs Neg
4th cycle unknown donor eggs Neg
Going to have sisters eggs Feb 06
NEVER GIVE UP!
2nd cycle own eggs Neg
3rd cycle cousins eggs Neg
4th cycle unknown donor eggs Neg
Going to have sisters eggs Feb 06
NEVER GIVE UP!