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TERESAWANTBABY
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Post by TERESAWANTBABY »

Hey Tracey!!!
Maybe I should of also mentioned that we have also agreed to terminate anything above two, I really don't want to, but my doctor thinks thatsw what we should do, I guess we will have to see how things progress (IF) we get that far.. I am really hoping for at least one, but my dream from many years ago was to have twins ..!!
I'll shall keep you posted !!
Good luck with everyone, and let those POSITVE VIBES break through !!!

-Teresa :D
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AMITHIS
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Post by AMITHIS »

Kel,

Good luck for tomorrow!! I found the EC procedure itself wasn't bad at all. All I remember was being brought into the room then waking up in recovery. How I love sedation. :)
One piece of advice I'd offer is if the nurse offers painkillers to you prior to leaving the clinic, TAKE THEM. Even if you feel completely fine when she offers them to you, just take them anyway. I stupidly said I didn't need them and, once the pain meds given during the procedure wore off on the way home, I was in serious pain. I popped the pills as soon as I got home but they took awhile to take effect during which time I was completely miserable.

Debra,

You asked about my move to Florida. It was due to DH finding a job here. I had a very good job in New York city but we knew we were going to have to work on having a family and he wanted to get me out of the role of being the primary earner. Sometimes, I have to wonder if it was all for nothing given our lack of success so far but I guess we would have never known without trying. Fortunately, the clinic is only about 30 minutes away and it is recognized as a very good one (although I do have doubts about their methods sometimes).

Sounds like things are coming along nicely for you so far!



Dagny,

How are things going? I'm surprised that you are injecting to downreg. Everyone at my clinic does but it seems like most people over there are sniffers? Have you always done the injections?

Bronagh,

Glad you are feeling better. It was the same for me. For several days after I got the -tive, I really felt like it was the end of the world and couldn't stop crying. I mean of course I had reason to be upset but I was too upset for the circumstances. I think a lot of it was the hormones preventing me from thinking rationally. A few days after they cleared out of my system, I really started feeling much more positive and capable of dealing with things. Are you looking to do further treatment or are you not up to that yet?

Teresa,

46 follies naturally? My God. That is unheard of! I can certainly see why they are not bothering with giving you meds!

Hope everyone else is doing well. I'm off to give the credit card a workout (I've actually been good for the past 2 days but my resolve has weakened).

Staci
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Post by DebraP »

Quick Hi to Kel....good luck for EC today. I agree with Staci re. the painkillers. I also had local and sedation and it's after the local has worn off that there can be a little pain. Take the pills if they offer them!

Let us know how it goes.

Good luck to everyone else, I'm sure there's at least one scan happening today.

love
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Post by DeeDee »

Hi All

Firstly hope all goes well today Kel - you are in my thoughts (so is everyone else)

Well just had my scan and its all a bit disappointing but I am trying to put a positive spin on it.

One side just 1 follie of 14 and some very small ones, the other side just 2, 1 of 10 and 1 of 8, and again some very small ones. So its back for another scan on Friday when it will be decision day. If the 14 one has kept going and the other 2 have slowed down then it will a choice between IVF with just the 1 or IUI. Alternatively all 3 may have kept growing and they will beable to retrive all 3 for IVF, or even the small ones will have taken on a new lease of life and done something. Apparently its all due to my high FSH, and I was relieved that there were any at all, after all it only takes 1, but I am feeling a bit upset that with only 3 the chances of getting a +ive get less and less.

But it can still happen, and I really really want it to so if that counts for anything. Keep having a few tears but am mentally slapping myself about the face to put a stop to that nonsense.

I'll keep you posted.

Thanks for being there

DeeDee
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Post by Tracey S »

Dee Dee

Keep your chin up honey - it just takes one good one but must be distressing for you - try and stay positive
Fingers crossed
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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Post by Dagny »

Hellooooo JCB's

Blimey, I have one day off from the site and there is so much to catch up on :roll:

Kel - Good luck for today honey, I hope it all goes well and you get lots of juicy eggies. Looking forward to hearing how you got on. Remember - drink, drink, drink!!!

Debra - You have got a lovely amount of follies which is great. So ET on the 22nd? Super duper :D Your daylight thing must be so weird :?

Staci - My first 2 tmt's I sniffed Synerel and I got negatives and on my 3rd I injected Buserelin and got a positive so I feel I want to do everything the same as last time. I don't mind injecting at all infact like DeeDee I quite enjoy it :shock: I had the option to sniff this time but I really don't like it at all.

Teresa - 46 follies :shock: That's a massive amount and naturally too, OMG!

Bro - Glad you are getting back to normal after your rediculously long cycle. When you get going again we will be right behind you all the way. We all deserve this chance of happiness.

DeeDee - How's the stabbing going, still enjoying it? we seem to be the only ones who get a buzz out of it!

Kt - Anything to report???

Loopy - Good luck for your scan tomorrow. How are you? You have been fairly quiet, everything OK?

Tracey my old mukka - No, no more odd dreams. Not that I would say anyway as it got me into a right old pickle last time when I mentioned Mr Ramsey :roll: Not sleeping well enough to dream anyway. Too hot and muggy. We are in the front bedroom at the mo as DH is still building and decorating our bedroom so having the window open on the road side is a pain in the mornings. It's not a busy road but it's being used as a diversion right now and the world and his wife are coming down it. There was a massive accident right outside our house on Sunday. One where you hear the screech of breaks and just wait to hear the crunch. It was quite a bad one too. Our car was narrowly missed thank goodness.

I got my date for EC which is July the 8th. It's David's birthday that day too - Hooray! I suspect ET will be July 10th. OMG it's really happening now :? My down regging is going OK the injections are a sinch and my ovaries seem to have stopped twinging.

Hope we are all keeping positive and being good.

Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Tina
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Post by Tina »

Hi Girls

I am cycling on my fourth attempt this month. I don't really post when I am cycling, but do read several times a day! I don't know why, I supose I find it supportive enough just to read everyone else's experiences!

Anyway, I just had to post a question for Dagny - how on earth do you already know your EC date?!! I have cycled 3 times with the same clinic, and it has been different all three times depending on the success of stimms. So I was wondering how they could possibly tell you? Although it must be really wonderful to know - I find the not knowing and inability to plan/take time off a real pain in the butt!

Well, wishing you lots of love and luck

Tina
1st ICSI 2002 - BFP but m/c 9 weeks
2nd and 3rd ICSI 2003/04 - BFN
4th ICSI 2004 - BFP but m/c 9 weeks
5th ICSI 2005 - BFN
6th and 7th 2005 - IUI with donor sperm - BFN
8th and 9th 2006- IVF with donor sperm and donor eggs - BFN
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Post by DebraP »

Hey JCBs:

Hi Tina...I agree! I was surprised when weeks ago Loopy knew her EC would be 2nd July (HELLO LOOPY are you still here :? ??). I've only been told Tuesday for EC was 'likely' not definite. I've cleared a week of work but as I'm self employed I lose money from cancelling work too early. C'est la vie. Good luck with your tmt.

DeeDee - I can understand your wanting to see loads and loads of follies but you know how quickly things can change on the stimms. Another 48 of meds and anything can have happened. This time you and I can be stirrup buddies! :D

Dagny - sorry to hear the street noise is annoying. Come and live here, it's only about 8 degrees - no windows open now!

Kel - don't forget to update us on how it all went. You know we're all thinking of you.

Hi to everyone else.
love
Debra.
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Post by loopylou57uk »

hi jcb`s,i hope your all ok,i have been a bit quiet because i had the runs yesterday,dont know if its the meds,it is one of the side affects,but i also eat a lot now i dont smoke so it could be that,
i am feeling a bit bloated today and i have had a few hot flushes so i have the blasting on me at the mo :oops:
KEL,i hope ec went ok today,make sure you relax afterwards and look forward to et.
BRONAGH,i am sorry that you got a negative,i was wondering what happened to you,im glad that your feeling ok now,when will you be cycling again?
DEBRA,how are you doing?do you have another scan tom?i cant wait for mine,just to see that everything is going ok,then stimms on sat.looks like you have a big bunch of follies, :D .
did you start your meds before me?i started on 25th may,then this would explain you being ahead,
DAGNY,i hope your ok,hows the jabbing?i also jab buserelin,my ec date is july 2nd so not far in front of you,do you do a short protocol?
TERESA,did you really have 46 follies naturally or was that on your last treatment,i didnt think it was possible naturally? :? good luck with your treatment.
KT,i hope your doing ok.
DEEDEE,try not to worry about your follies,they may just suprise you and have a massive growing spurt,and even if they dont,it only takes one :D
AMITHIS,hope you bought lots of nice thing on your credit card,i love them because i dont actually feel like im spending any money,well actualy i dont as wwhen the bill comes dh pays it,its great. :P
well girls must dash,got some cleaning to do,
love loopy.
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Post by Dagny »

Hi Tina

Snap, this is my 4th time too! My clinic just work my EC date out for me working it from my first day of down regging. I too am a little confused at what my cycle is and does anyone do the same as me? I have always followed this cycle plan.

Day 1 - AF arrives and start down regging
Day 12 - Start stimms injecting Puregon for 11 days
Day 19 - Scan
Day 22 - Last stimms injection
Day 23 - Scan & blood test, HCG injection late PM
Day 25 - Egg collection
Day 27 - Embryo transfer

I don't have an AF after starting down regging. I end up going for almost daily bloods and scans depending on how many follies they find on the first scan as have a tendancy to over stimulate quite quickly.

Love Dagny xkx

Does anyone else have this cycle?
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
AMITHIS
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Post by AMITHIS »

Dagny,

I was also surprised your clinic could tell you the EC date. My protocol was somewhat different though. I had to use BCP's first to regulate my cycles so the clinic knew when I'd start. Then on Day 21 of my BCP pills, I had to start downregging. I did have AF. As far as downregging, they couldn't even tell me for sure how long I'd be doing that; just a general range. Then, I ended up being on stims for around 12 days but they didn't know in advance as it was all dependent on how my scans went. They said I could be stimming for as little as 7 days or for as long as 16. I didn't find out when my EC was until 2 days before it. Anyway, that's very convenient to know set dates in advance! Fortunately, I'm not working. I can imagine it'd be difficult to plan days off for those who are.

Staci
Tina
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Post by Tina »

Hi Dagny

Well, for the last 3 goes I've started on day 2

Day 2 - D/R for about 14 days
Day 16 (ish) - start stimms
Day 5 of stimms - blood test
Day 9 stimms - bloods and scan
From this point, anything can happen! First cycle, I had a day 10 scan and then EC on day 12
Second cycle, day 11 and day 12 more stimms, EC on day 14
Third cycle, day 11, 12, 12. 14 more stimms and EC on day 16

But this cycle they've decided to start me on day 21, as my body was possibly too switched off (declining eggs collected - from 10, 6, 4)

Anyway I think its more or less the same, just starts later - so I still have about 14 days D/R and then between 10 and 14 days of stimms (my FSH has come right down from 9.9 to 5.6 after using Angus Castus so hopefully less stimms needed this time).

Isn't it amazing how different everbody's cycles are?!

Anyway, I hope that both you and me are successful this time as we both have had 3 previous cycles, and both lost a baby (although your lost was huge in comparison to mine).

Good luck to everyone on this site - I draw inspiration from all of you every day!

LOL Tina
1st ICSI 2002 - BFP but m/c 9 weeks
2nd and 3rd ICSI 2003/04 - BFN
4th ICSI 2004 - BFP but m/c 9 weeks
5th ICSI 2005 - BFN
6th and 7th 2005 - IUI with donor sperm - BFN
8th and 9th 2006- IVF with donor sperm and donor eggs - BFN
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Post by Dagny »

Hi there

It is amazing how our cycles can differ so much but I suppose we are all different with what our natural cycles are and so therefore our IVF one's fit in with that. Some clinics have very different protocols. I read in the Zita West book the cycle that she writes about and it's nothing like mine and was a bit preterbed but then thought it has worked for me with getting PG with Katelyn so they must be doing something right.

Talking of Katelyn I got really upset today as I received a letter from the Bridge Center where I have ET asking me to fill in their form about my baby. It was sent to me as Katelyn would be due this week but they obviously don't know what happened and it's information for their records and statistics. They needed to know when she was born, her weight, what delivery and labour I had, sex, any congenital abnormalities, her NHS number etc, etc. I was so shocked, I burst into tears and rang them up. I couldn't even get my words out as I was gasping for air like when a kid has a tantrum! They were really apologetic but said I still had to fill it in and send it back. What crap timing is that?? I know they wern't to know but still, it was like a sledge hammer to my heart. The embryologist put a personal foot note on the bottom saying 'Hope all is well!!' - NOPE!!!! :cry:

I have felt really depressed all day and I was feeling so positive earlier. Why does something always come to pi$$ me off when I need it least?

Sorry for ranting, I just can't believe how one letter can affect me so much. I just hate addressing the whole issue of my baby's death in an official capacity. I will pull myself together as it won't do me any good for my TMT!

Keep smiling everybody and keep the PMA in abundance OK!!

Love Dagny xkx
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
Kt
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Post by Kt »

Hi JCBs
Hope all is well with you all.
Dagny you poor thing, it must have been awful for you recieving that letter today, thinking of you
Kell, How did EC go?, make sure you drink loads of water.
Loopy, re the runs I had this initially too and put it down to the amount of water I was drinking!
As for me, nothing much to report, still waiting and doing hourly knicker checks, fingeres crossed...
Oh does anyone know what Ritodrine is for? The instruction leaflet Ive got is written only in foreign languages.
Also I have been having night sweats, ussually I get these right before af starts, Im hoping my meds may be causing it this time has anyone any ideas that might put my mind at rest.
Kt
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Post by DebraP »

Kt, I looked on the internet but could only see other uses. Have you received written info from your clinic, does it get a mention? Does your clinic have a website? it might be mentioned in there. Other than that - sorry I've not heard of it before.

Dagny, how truly awful for you. I agree the timing is dreadful. I read all your posts, on all the boards, and can see how much you are still grieving for Katelyn - as would be expected. To get the letter this week seems esp. cruel. Even more so when you're already conscious of how this week should have been but also when you're on medication and starting to think of the future. My thoughts are with you. The letter is nobody's fault. Officialdom marches on. I'm so sorry for both you and David.

love
Debra.
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