Caz so glad everything went well
Its brill telling people isnt it
Hope everyone else is ok,Tracey so happy you are atill part of this tread just wait til you havent got time.
Love gemmaxxx
I cant believe I'm 14 weeks on weds
For those of us only JUST here!
Hello
Haven't been around for a few days, busy doing nothing exciting and have felt awful. Had to spend two mornings in bed last week as haven't been sleeping too well and I am exhausted by the afternoon. Been out all day with a girlfriend shoppin. We took it easy as she is also pg but after the swimming run and the cricket run I felt shattered so had to lie down for an hour. Just done some ironing and am going to bed again soon. DP away but back tonight.
Caz - so glad your nuchal went well. I am going to London tomorrow for mine and am dreading it. Already had a nightmare about it last night. Being 40 I am expecting the worst. Keep your fingers crossed for me girls and I will let you know tomorrow.
Too tired to write any more.
Love Fiona
Haven't been around for a few days, busy doing nothing exciting and have felt awful. Had to spend two mornings in bed last week as haven't been sleeping too well and I am exhausted by the afternoon. Been out all day with a girlfriend shoppin. We took it easy as she is also pg but after the swimming run and the cricket run I felt shattered so had to lie down for an hour. Just done some ironing and am going to bed again soon. DP away but back tonight.
Caz - so glad your nuchal went well. I am going to London tomorrow for mine and am dreading it. Already had a nightmare about it last night. Being 40 I am expecting the worst. Keep your fingers crossed for me girls and I will let you know tomorrow.
Too tired to write any more.
Love Fiona
Fiona
Hello stranger - you will be fine hopefully - only time I really felt older was the nuchal scan so know what you mean! You do seem to be hectic still - not sure where the energy comes from.
Gem and Caz - I am fine thanks just soooooooooooo tired as not sleeping at night very well - just sent some bump photos out to various friends and they had hysterics at the size of me which is funny as I must have got used to it!
Perhaps we could start a first trimester and 2nd trimester thread for you lot - what do you reckon. I mean 14 wks is hardly "only just here!"
Fiona let us know how you get on
Love
Tracey
xxx
Hello stranger - you will be fine hopefully - only time I really felt older was the nuchal scan so know what you mean! You do seem to be hectic still - not sure where the energy comes from.
Gem and Caz - I am fine thanks just soooooooooooo tired as not sleeping at night very well - just sent some bump photos out to various friends and they had hysterics at the size of me which is funny as I must have got used to it!
Perhaps we could start a first trimester and 2nd trimester thread for you lot - what do you reckon. I mean 14 wks is hardly "only just here!"
Fiona let us know how you get on
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Hello,
Well done Caz on the nuchal results. I bet you are over the moon. Good luck with yours Fiona but I'm sure they will be fine.
Thanks everyone for the advice. I decided not to join TAMBA and went to the twinsclub site. I am going to wait now until 20 weeks and then start lookingg at ebay. I think I have read too many books now and am overloaded with info. I am just going to sit back and enjoy being pregnant for a while. Oh I mean between the morning sickness and tiredness
Hope everyone else is well. The weather was nice here today, the sun shone all day. DH is away on business all week and the dog and I miss him.
Best wishes all
Shellie
Well done Caz on the nuchal results. I bet you are over the moon. Good luck with yours Fiona but I'm sure they will be fine.
Thanks everyone for the advice. I decided not to join TAMBA and went to the twinsclub site. I am going to wait now until 20 weeks and then start lookingg at ebay. I think I have read too many books now and am overloaded with info. I am just going to sit back and enjoy being pregnant for a while. Oh I mean between the morning sickness and tiredness
Hope everyone else is well. The weather was nice here today, the sun shone all day. DH is away on business all week and the dog and I miss him.
Best wishes all
Shellie
DH 37, me 28 with Endometriosis
First attempt at IVF in May, now pregnant with twins. Fingers still crossed.
First attempt at IVF in May, now pregnant with twins. Fingers still crossed.
It wasn't fine. The scan was ok but the blood tests when they check your hormone levels weren't good so they have given me a 1 in 9 chance of a Downs baby. After having seen it on the scan. They have suggested i have the CVS test tomorrow where they put a needle in the stomach and draw out cells from the placenta. The test is 100% accurate and I would get the results on Friday pm. Spent the train journey back crying and not sure what to do. Currently, I think I will have the test as I need to know but the chance of miscarriage is 1 in 300. A crap day and a crap decision.
Fiona
Fiona
Fiona - So sorry to hear about your dilemma. Thank you for posting and I wish you all the strength to make the right decision.
I'm not pregnant - just had my first IVF and mc after just 2 1/2 weeks. This is really hard stuff we're doing. But my feeling is if I had not persued it I always would have wondered if I should have.
Our thoughts are with you and fingers crossed hoping for the best.
alicia
I'm not pregnant - just had my first IVF and mc after just 2 1/2 weeks. This is really hard stuff we're doing. But my feeling is if I had not persued it I always would have wondered if I should have.
Our thoughts are with you and fingers crossed hoping for the best.
alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
Thanks Alicia. Catching the train in a minute to go and have the test done. Feel dreadful. Been up since 4.30 and can't stop crying. Don't think I could have a termination, don't think I could cope with a Downs child and don't think I could go through IVF again. Think I am just too old and we are too greedy as we have 4 children between us.
Love Fiona
Love Fiona
Oh Fiona
I do so wish I could help you and know if I was in that position I would be in a right state. I had to go through it with a 43 year old friend who had lost 3 at 10 wks or so and then had this risk back - scan fine and bloods said 1 in 6. She opted for the cvs after a lot of consideration which is what you are considering (the pros and cons are endless) 1 in 300 is a much smaller risk than they say the risk of Downs is so on balance if you were to force my hand i would say go for it. Her results despite the 1 in 6 chance came back fine.......
Another thing to knock on the head right now is you are not GREEDY - greedy is not wanting a baby with the man you love whether you both have children already or not. It is a wonderful thing to go through what you both are and have a baby together and give the baby a happy and loved life.
I hope you can find a way through this and clearly am hoping that the results all come back with no more fears for you.
Thinking of you....
Love
Tracey
xxx
I do so wish I could help you and know if I was in that position I would be in a right state. I had to go through it with a 43 year old friend who had lost 3 at 10 wks or so and then had this risk back - scan fine and bloods said 1 in 6. She opted for the cvs after a lot of consideration which is what you are considering (the pros and cons are endless) 1 in 300 is a much smaller risk than they say the risk of Downs is so on balance if you were to force my hand i would say go for it. Her results despite the 1 in 6 chance came back fine.......
Another thing to knock on the head right now is you are not GREEDY - greedy is not wanting a baby with the man you love whether you both have children already or not. It is a wonderful thing to go through what you both are and have a baby together and give the baby a happy and loved life.
I hope you can find a way through this and clearly am hoping that the results all come back with no more fears for you.
Thinking of you....
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Thanks Tracey. Still crying. Had the test done today in London by Prof Nikolides (too long a name to spell properly), the top man apparently. He had more bad news for us. The hormone level is 1/10 what it should be and the placenta is very thin so there is an increased chance of miscarriage because the placenta could pack up. If the chromosome test comes back Ok I could still miscarry because of the placenta and he has suggested scans at 16, 20 and 26 weeks.
It seems doubly hard to cope with having gone through IVF and its not as though I have years to try again. Right now, I'm not sure I could.
Had a big row with DP on the train on the way back. I am very pessmistic about the chances and he is like bloody Pollyanna, always seeing the positive. He wouldn't talk to me as he didn't wtn to be dragged down by my negativity and wants to believe everything will be alright. He then shot off to the airport as he should be in Switzerland for a meeting tomorrow. I told him to clear our his stuff and go. Great huh!
The clinic also told me the sex of the baby (70% definite) which makes it worse. At that point I thought it was all ok.
I may stay off the boards for a while as I will find it very hard to cope if it all goes wrong.
Love Fiona
It seems doubly hard to cope with having gone through IVF and its not as though I have years to try again. Right now, I'm not sure I could.
Had a big row with DP on the train on the way back. I am very pessmistic about the chances and he is like bloody Pollyanna, always seeing the positive. He wouldn't talk to me as he didn't wtn to be dragged down by my negativity and wants to believe everything will be alright. He then shot off to the airport as he should be in Switzerland for a meeting tomorrow. I told him to clear our his stuff and go. Great huh!
The clinic also told me the sex of the baby (70% definite) which makes it worse. At that point I thought it was all ok.
I may stay off the boards for a while as I will find it very hard to cope if it all goes wrong.
Love Fiona
Fiona
I'm so sorry to read your news we are all giving you a big cyber hug hun,I think you have done the right decision and hopefully the results will come back fine but I know the waiting will be awful,we understand you need time away and dont worry about dh thats what they are there for and he will understand.
Take care hun
Love gemmaxxxxxx
I'm so sorry to read your news we are all giving you a big cyber hug hun,I think you have done the right decision and hopefully the results will come back fine but I know the waiting will be awful,we understand you need time away and dont worry about dh thats what they are there for and he will understand.
Take care hun
Love gemmaxxxxxx
Dear Fiona,
I'm really sorry you are going through this. I dont know if you will remember me but I posted twice after testing +ve and then went on to bleed later the same day ( both times having had a pleasing scan!). Having had two mcs in the two previous ivfs I thought it was mc time again. Then when ( after four bleeds from weeks 6 to 10) the little thing just hung on in there I got too scared to tempt fate and post on here again! (in fact Im nervous about this posting, silly eh).So I decided that Id give it til 12 weeks and if the worst hadnt happened Id join you all again. Unfortunately I did one of those there Nuchals plus a fancy four marker blood test at 12 weeks and 3 days( like the triple but with an extra test supposedly to make it ultra accurate)
The scan was fine but one of the markers came back low and they shifted me from the age risk of 1 in 380 to 1in 130. I know these odds are seemingly much less worrying than yours, but just hearing youve scanned +ve for Downs is a blow to say the least. ( anything worse than 1 in 250 is classed as +ve) They then offered me a brand new further set of blood tests which retest the same three markers except the low one and test another instead. They seemed confident that there could be a 70 % chance that this could shift my odds back into the safer region so we agreed to return after week14.
On the day, when I asked how much worse the odds could get however they said as low as 1 in 10 , so there and then I chickened out and decided to just cross my fingers and hope for the best ( ignorance is bliss???) We also ruled out any invasive diagnostic tests as I seem to be mrs Miscarriage. So ive favourited the DOwns Syndrome website ( but not read it) just in case. I have no children already so I guess my descisions are slightly easier than yours since what ever happens Id only have one to care for. Interestingly the particular marker that came back low for me seems to have implications with big probs in later pregnancy(including still birth) So Ive decided not to do any more research on the internet, cos its too bloody depressing!!
One site you may like to try is a charity set up to help people cope with antenatal results/ descisions its called ARC. Good luck with everything and I hope this miserable phase passes soon. Im just living in a state of suspended emotions at the mo and that suits me!
Off to my second antenatal ( I had the booking in appointment at 14 weeks but they couldnt find the heart beat , not to worry says midwife person.... so I stuck on my fake smile!!). Any way hopefully today the little love will pipe up for the herat beat machine and give me another bit of hope to cling to,
love Annie
Sorry this is so long but Ive been chaeking up on you all for weeks but not had the nerve to post, then your message struck a chord.
I'm really sorry you are going through this. I dont know if you will remember me but I posted twice after testing +ve and then went on to bleed later the same day ( both times having had a pleasing scan!). Having had two mcs in the two previous ivfs I thought it was mc time again. Then when ( after four bleeds from weeks 6 to 10) the little thing just hung on in there I got too scared to tempt fate and post on here again! (in fact Im nervous about this posting, silly eh).So I decided that Id give it til 12 weeks and if the worst hadnt happened Id join you all again. Unfortunately I did one of those there Nuchals plus a fancy four marker blood test at 12 weeks and 3 days( like the triple but with an extra test supposedly to make it ultra accurate)
The scan was fine but one of the markers came back low and they shifted me from the age risk of 1 in 380 to 1in 130. I know these odds are seemingly much less worrying than yours, but just hearing youve scanned +ve for Downs is a blow to say the least. ( anything worse than 1 in 250 is classed as +ve) They then offered me a brand new further set of blood tests which retest the same three markers except the low one and test another instead. They seemed confident that there could be a 70 % chance that this could shift my odds back into the safer region so we agreed to return after week14.
On the day, when I asked how much worse the odds could get however they said as low as 1 in 10 , so there and then I chickened out and decided to just cross my fingers and hope for the best ( ignorance is bliss???) We also ruled out any invasive diagnostic tests as I seem to be mrs Miscarriage. So ive favourited the DOwns Syndrome website ( but not read it) just in case. I have no children already so I guess my descisions are slightly easier than yours since what ever happens Id only have one to care for. Interestingly the particular marker that came back low for me seems to have implications with big probs in later pregnancy(including still birth) So Ive decided not to do any more research on the internet, cos its too bloody depressing!!
One site you may like to try is a charity set up to help people cope with antenatal results/ descisions its called ARC. Good luck with everything and I hope this miserable phase passes soon. Im just living in a state of suspended emotions at the mo and that suits me!
Off to my second antenatal ( I had the booking in appointment at 14 weeks but they couldnt find the heart beat , not to worry says midwife person.... so I stuck on my fake smile!!). Any way hopefully today the little love will pipe up for the herat beat machine and give me another bit of hope to cling to,
love Annie
Sorry this is so long but Ive been chaeking up on you all for weeks but not had the nerve to post, then your message struck a chord.
Annie
What a wonderful reply to 'Fiona and am sure if she has read it then she would be very grateful for all the help! Sorry you have had a mare of a time and hope things get better.
Fiona - totally understand you wanting to be away from the boards - they are here for your benefit and if they are not helping then we will he here when you return. My email is on my profile if you fancy a more personal chat. DP - well men have differing reactions and he is just trying to put a brave face on it - try not to be too hard on him - I am sure he understands your reaction - all quite normal. he is hurting too and probalby feels he is totally helpless. I just don't know what to say - except don't jump too far ahead - don't even think of more tmt until you see what happens on this one
You are both in my thoughts.
Love
Tracey
xxx
What a wonderful reply to 'Fiona and am sure if she has read it then she would be very grateful for all the help! Sorry you have had a mare of a time and hope things get better.
Fiona - totally understand you wanting to be away from the boards - they are here for your benefit and if they are not helping then we will he here when you return. My email is on my profile if you fancy a more personal chat. DP - well men have differing reactions and he is just trying to put a brave face on it - try not to be too hard on him - I am sure he understands your reaction - all quite normal. he is hurting too and probalby feels he is totally helpless. I just don't know what to say - except don't jump too far ahead - don't even think of more tmt until you see what happens on this one
You are both in my thoughts.
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Thank you everyone for your kind thoughts. I feel much better today. DP missed his flight and came back home, very contrite. We have talked the whole thing over and can now offer each other support. I feel very sad but stronger knowing he is with me.
We get the results tomorrow afternoon, hopefully. Feel sick just thinking about it.
Tracey - delighted your scan went so well.
Love Fiona
We get the results tomorrow afternoon, hopefully. Feel sick just thinking about it.
Tracey - delighted your scan went so well.
Love Fiona
Fiona
Thanks for the update - i do worry about you and will be thinking of you both tomorrow
Love
Tracey
xxx
Thanks for the update - i do worry about you and will be thinking of you both tomorrow
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!