Patricia and Lydia - here in Israel, they also do only the vaginal pessaries (suppositories) for progesterone, not PIO. A lot of places in the USA are switching to suppositories instead of PIO -- studies have found no difference in the outcomes between vaginal and IM progesterone --- and the suppositories are easier to take.
Bonnie - so sorry about your OHSS - that sounds awful to have fluid drained! But don't worry about the pregnancy - your beta numbers are fine and the OHSS doesn't affect it.
Indigo - CONGRATS! That is weird that they defrosted 5 to get 2 embryos -- I was nervous because our last FET we only had one frozen - and if he didn't defrost we wouldn't have anything to transfer. Are you going to POAS or wait for your beta?
Patricia - really? Islam has an issue with IVF? Because most of the women at the clinic I go to are Arab and I assume Muslim (because of the hijab). (I go to the clinic at the Mt Scopus hospital in Jerusalem, which is in East Jerusalem, as part of the Hebrew University campus -- so mostly Arabs, not Jews.) I would never have thought Islam has an issue with IVF considering how many Muslim women are at my clinic!
Maybe like you and other Catholics, they can't believe that God would want them to give up having kids. I can't believe that infertility is a "sign" that God doesn't think you should have children - that is just too mean and doesn't make sense considering other people I know who get pregnant and shouldn't have. I don't know if there is a reason why we have to deal with so much sh*t trying to have a baby, but I can't believe it's anything I or David has done to deserve this. No one could possibly do anything to deserve this - not even Hitler or Osama Bin Laden (who has kids, as far as I understand - would that make sense?) or anyone. This is just too awful.
As for which clinic - I don't have a good answer. The fact that you had 10 eggs and 8 fertilized is normal -- the fact that you only had 2 to transfer on day 2 is a bit sketchy -- that's not very good. We usually have 15 eggs or so, need to do ICSI for severe male factor (which can lower fert rates) and have 8-10 on day 2, and 3-5 on day 5. Now, if you go somewhere else, no guarantee that you'll have better embryos because the problem could be you guys, but I would really question why so few embryos out of so many eggs.
Lydia - like I said on the other thread - CONGRATS! Keep peeing and keep posting pics!
Gina - cleaning out someone's home is so hard - I've helped a friend do it. Sorry to hear about your husband's wrist! When we were kids, getting casts on broken bones was so cool -- as a grownup, breaking a bone SUCKS! Is it his dominant hand (ie, if he is a rightie, his right hand or a leftie, his left hand)? I broke my ankle a while back (my right one, so I couldn't even drive) and I was MISERABLE. It must be so hard to watch your niece go through a healthy pregnancy - as I said to Patricia, there is no way that this is 'fair' or "God judging us" because how could anyone justify her being 8 weeks pregnant instead of me?
Ilene - yup. The pits. Sheesh.
Nicole - yup, we transferred 1. So no chance of a hidden twin or a hetertopic or double ectopic pregnancy. The numbers going down and then up and then down and then up is a classic sign of an ectopic pregnancy --- something somewhere is putting of HCG but not at a normal rate.
AFM - well - something crazy happened. My best friend got home from work on Tuesday (first night of Chanukah!) and her husband told her (out of the blue) that he wanted a divorce and he wasn't open to reconciliation. The next day, while she was at work, he moved all of his things out of the apartment - and served her with papers when she got home (meaning he's been planning this behind her back for a few weeks!) She knew they were having issues, but they were in counseling and she thought they were working on it. He told her he was going on job interviews (he's unemployed) and was really meeting with an attorney. She is totally shell-shocked. They were married 1y10m.
So yesterday afternoon, I went over with a bottle of wine. We drank the whole thing and talked for hours.
It's quite shocking. I would never have imagined this guy doing such a thing.
Of course, you can never know what's going on behind closed doors (when my parents announced they were divorcing, many friends were shocked, even though it was obvious to us kids -- my mom moved to the guest room and they fought nonstop). But she would have confided in me if she thought things were that bad. She was telling me that they were in counseling (which isn't always a bad sign! David and I do counseling on a regular basis and I recommend to everyone! Counseling doesn't mean something is wrong/broken - it means you both think your relationship could improve - and I don't think anyone's relationship is perfect, so there is always room for improvement!) and what they were fighting about -- so I think I would have picked up that things were that bad. But just talking with her last night -- she had no idea this would happen. The "d word" hadn't been discussed at all.
She knows all about my 'adventures' the last few days with this damned ectopic pregnancy -- so the bottle of wine was drunk and appreciated.
Happy friggin holidays, no?
First, thank you all so much for the thoughts and prayers you sent mine and my family's way with my Grandmother. My mom and my Aunt have been busy getting her things together and out of the house. They said she has sooo much! Some things were never even opened she was given as gifts! They've given things away, kept some things and given some to family. It's hard with Christmas coming up but we'll all be okay. She would have been 90 on Jan 10th.
