Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

[bodie1011]

Maria - Thank you for asking. I'm feeling better now, with more energy and almost no nausea. Still very nervous, but I guess that's just what its going to be until I have my LOs in my arms.

[Sunshine1576]

We, Yes changing the board to "Cycling in 2012" would cater to everyone, although sometimes it gets so big someone new might create one as well, but I feel we know so many already and have a history here that most of us would stay.

Kerri- I am so sorry this has happened, I know it doesn't take away the heartache, but we are always here if or when you need someone to talk to.

bodie and Ninde- thank you for sharing, I'm learning COQ10 can be used for dh's sperm quality as well as improving the egg quality too. With my age I will be certainly looking into that too.

Blue- Once we got pregnant, I wish we could keep the cycles for a sibbling later on, esp if this works on the first attempt. The way they explained it is if we don't bring home a baby up to %70 will be refunded back. So if the IVF does work on the first attempt with a heathy pregnancy to full-term we would first think why didn't we just finance for one cycle? Thing is we have already tried IVF once and had no success so given that we have up to 6 cycles I feel better knowing we would have more then one good try. It's like gambling you never know when it's going to happen, but the more chances you can get the better the outcome. As we know IVF rarely works on the first attempt and like everything worth having in life we have to try until we bring our rainbow baby.

AFM: spending quality time with dh is the best! We both love being outdoors so today we worked on our flowerbeds and relocated some plants around the front yard. Could not believe I went to the Walmart Garden Center with him without wearing makeup..He laughed and said I would fit in with all the rest once I have the 2 kids, that's just Panama City for you!

[LYD10]

Hello guys, my DS and DH are napping upstairs and I am drinking tea. And feeling down for some reason. I don't have any nausea or any other pregnancy symptoms. I am so worried this is a chemical pregnancy again. My beta #4, at my own request, is on Wednesday and then my u/s on Friday. I am petrified that Wednesday I find out my beta didn't rise much or went down even. I'll be 6 weeks on tuesday and don't feel much. I lost almost all of my water, thankfully. Only a small belly and a few lb left. But you can't really tell anymore. It looks perfectly normal. Anyway, this is probably going to be the hardest week for me. Just waiting to see what happens on Wednesday and Friday.

We - keeping my fingers crossed for a strong beta for you tomorrow .

[Happy Bunny]

Lyd: Is there any way that you can talk to your doctor on Monday and express how much anxiety you are feeling? Do you think that he would do an ultrasound just to reassure you? Think how much better you'd feel knowing that everything is okay instead of having to wait until Friday.

[LYD10]

Thanks, Barbara. I ll think about it. I am trying to keep down the crazy, so to speak. He left it up to me when I wanted the u/s. And I picked Friday. I think once Monday gets here I ll be better. The work tends to keep me pretty occupied.

[WeHaveHope]

Ninde-how are you doing today?

Lyd-thank you so much. I really appreciate your prayers. Praying for a great Brta for you as well. Can't wait to your u/s.

[Ninde]

Evening ladies (or dood morning to anyone on my time line!!)

Kerri: oh im so so sorry. That's very sad news and I cant imagine how you are feeling. You have come a long way on this journey and to have to stop the cycle at this point must be heart breaking. Does your re have any explanation?

Maria: I must have missed christy's suggestion but I think its a great one. In was actually quite worried that we wouldn't be together going forward and as I put my cycle off a month I thought I would have to leave as the board is only up to feb and my transfer will be in march. There is absolutely no doubt you are pregnant but i know otsnthe next few weeks you are concerned about. Im praying hard for you x

Lyd: that sounds really lousy in terms of how you are feeling. Try not to lose heart but I knownthats easier said than done x and dontbforget that you felt awful with the ohss and im sure now those symptoms have decreased that its not surprising youndont feel much of anything. Please try and go gently

Gina: I hope you can find somewhere a little less expensive!

Christy: as I said above to Maria - great suggestion re the board. Would you normally wear make up going to the pharmacy?! Great photo of your dogs by the way

Bodies: I know you are nervous but its so great to know its all going well.

LauraN: how are you?

Blue: feeling any better?
I hope i got everybody?

Afm: just getting into bed, itsn2.40am and we had friends over for dinner. I did braised beef in an orange and brandy sauce and baked Alaska. It was really nice and clearly I majorily blew lots of calories! That's officially the end of the christmas entertaining now and on Monday I start back with 7am weight training sessions, wednesday evening trampolining, Saturday weights training and Sunday trampolining. Im also joining weight atchersnon wed night and im hoping reduced portion sizes with increased cardio should help shift pounds.

In was at mass this evening and i had totally forgotten that tomorrow at 12 noon there is a mass offered for all those wh have lost children and babies. They created a beautiful tree and hung the names of the little ones on it for tommorrow. It was quite beautiful to see and when the priest talked about it I cried. We didnt put our little one's name forward as we hadn't named him/her but i likentonthink of him/her as "baby Garrett" which is my husband's surname (im Allen-Garrett which is way too long to saddle a little one with). It was beautiful and sad.

So tonight im thinking of all of us here on this board - for those who have lost little ones and for those who havnt received bfps. And I ask the lord to hold our heartbreak and unrealised dreams for us because his shoulders are far broader than ours.

Thinking of you all ladies

Ninde

[blueeyedreamer]

Hey all, Happy Saturday!

Christy- I thought that was the case. I've read about a few programs like that. You are right. It's a gamble no matter what you do.

Maria- Your HPTs look great!

Ninde- I'm feeling better. We were able to go workout today. I did 3 miles on the treadmill and then did a little weights. That was fun. My legs have always been strong. I was able to lift up to 395lbs on the leg press. 315lbs is more accurate based on the position of the seat. Once I moved the seat up I had to lower the weight. Didn't want to hurt myself! Now, my upper body is another story

Kerri- What happened? Did the dr give you a reason for no embies this round? Did they fertilize and not make it or did they not fertilize at all?

I'm tired. We did housework, got the Christmas decor put away, worked out, and then made some super yummy beef stew! I'm ready for bed. Tata for now.

[leorira11]

sorry I've been MIA -- I've just been so depressed. I can't belive I should be 10 weeks pregnant -- and instead, I'm not pregnant and not being able to try again. This just sucks.

No updates since last time. I finished the Provera on Friday so I should get "AF" tomorrow or in the next few days.

I'm actually super sick, which is a big problem considering I have our last performance of HMS Pinafore tonight!

I'll be back at work tomorrow and do more personals. Just feeling too down in the dumps to deal with life sometimes....

[Kerri_789]

Bodie, I see you are now pregnant with a twin. I would be glad if you can share your history of IVF treatment, how you and your doctor walking from no embryo for ET to a twin pregnancy.

Ninde, I will make a new appointment with RE on Monday. The explanations I can come up now for the "no embryo to transfer" are:
1. the number of days between pickup and ET. My new clinic performs ET 3 day after pick up, while my old one performed ET 2 days after pickup.
2. trigging with GnRH agonist, the protocol aiming to promote oocyte maturation did not work on me. Then we do have fundamental problems, as the RE said. I wonder what he means "fundamental problems"..

Blueeyedreamer, they picked up 12 oocytes, 3 were mature and ICSI were performed on them. 2 fertilised but neither of them survived for day 3 ET.

Sunshine, You are so sweet! I really appreciate on the support from friends in this board. They have been here accompanying me for all my IVFs.

AFM, I feel much better now. My DH and I went to a basketball match last night with VIP treatments. The treatment was not bad at all, though the match was a bit lousy. I start thinking 3 day ET may be better than 2 day one. If my embryos die so early, it makes no sense to wait for 2 weeks to confirm the outcome. However, the RE from my old clinic was also right – they prefer perform 2-day transfer because they think uterus can provide a better environment for embryos to develop. Still don’t know what to do next. Should I start thinking about egg donors?

Kerri

[WeHaveHope]

Kerri-oh hon, I am so sorry. I wish there was something I could do to take your pain away. Please know that I am here for you. When do you meet with your RE to discuss your next step? Sending you a big hug.

Leora-I'm sorry your not feeling well. That darn cold is definitely going around. I think I'm even getting sick. I hope you feel better soon. Zycam seems to work well to cut colds but I'm not sure if your guys have that there. I'm praying that AF comes doing and that the Beta roller coaster ends soon for you. Sending you a big hug.

Blue-I'm glad your feeling a little better. Hope your cold goes away completely soon. Feel better.

Ninde-I hope you feel better soon. The holidays are especially difficult. The mass at church sounds beautiful. Praying that this next cycle gives you the baby you so deserve. About the board, I had mentioned that maybe I could change the board to encompass all of 2012. I don't want people to feel like they dint have a home after February. So Sunshine thought it was a good idea. I worry though that changingvthe name my confuse some. Have to give it a little mire thought. Any ideas?

Kala-thinking of you.

Indigo-thinking of you.

AFM-not sleeping well. Keep having this recurring dream that I've forgotten to take a pill that is very important for this cycle to work. Night before last I woke up at 2am and stumbled downstairs 1/2 asleep. I went to look in my purse and then it hit me. I didn't have any pill to take. I had already given myself my injections, there is no pill. Tried to go back to sleep after that and I couldn't. Last night, same dream but at least I didn't go stumbling down the stairs 1/2 asleep this time. Here is my test from this morning. Sending you all my love. Going to try to go back to bed.

[Ninde]

Morning ladies, just checking in after the posts last night.

Blue - seriously - 315 pounds - that's 145kgs - wow you are the bionic woman!!!

Leora: im sorry, this is dreadfully hard. I hope when u check in online you will feel everyone's support. You dont have to post right now, just try and rest but know we are all thinking of you. I know you said before when you were mentioning your friend and her husband that you every now and then do some counselling with david but do you have a counsellor at the moment? You are going through so much and your journey has been so difficult that perhaps it might be good to have somewhere where you can talk all this through and be very supported?

Kerri: im glad you managed to enjoy your night out. My clinic is like your old one - goes for 2 or 2 and na half day transfer. I wonder what your "fundamental problems" are. Sometimes doctors float those terms around and never see the need to explain them!

Maria: oh that's a lot of sleep disturbance. Do you have a relaxation cd you could use when you get into bed? And thanks for your kind words. I wasnt feeling bad as such but the priest was very kindly as he spoke about today's mass and it got to me. But im also one of those people who doesn't get embarrassed when I cry in public (whichnisnjust as well given my profession!) But his kindness took me off guard. I like the "cycling in 2012" name for the board. Then we all have homes thisbyear
Afm: no news as I've only woken up after last nights post!!!

Ninde
weall have homes this year

[Gina1976]

Leora- I'm sorry you're feeling so down but you've been through so much I understand how you could be. I hope you feel better soon! Being sick sucks and it sure doesn't help you to feel better about everything. I praying that soon things will start looking up for you and your DH! I know you both deserve that!

[Gina1976]

Maria- That's a might strong line there! So happy for you and your DH. I know you have bigger milestones to make it to since things tend to happen later on. I pray so hard every day that it sticks!! I'm sorry you aren't getting much sleep. Whenever things are going on really important I'll wake up all during the night, when everything is really okay and I didn't need to. I hope you'll get some better rest tonight.

[bodie1011]

Hi Kerri - sure I am happy to share. After 3 MC (2 natural, 1 IUI) our RE recommended we try IVF. 1st IVF resulted in 8 eggs retrieved and 6 fertilized. None made it to day 5 (my clinic almost always does a 5 day transfer) -- all had arrested.

My RE suspected poor egg quality and so they then switched me to microflare protocol for stimulation and put me into a PGD banking program. What this does is allows you to do multiple retrievals which they then genetically test the embryos and freeze them. Once I had 2 good quality, genetically normal embryos retrieved (took 3 more cycles), I then did my first FET and am now 16 weeks pregnant with twins. It takes a bit longer, but chances are better with this approach, if the embryo quality is in question. My clinic is RMA of New Jersey and they have more information on their website about their methods.

Could always be coincidence, but I did acupuncture and also took CoQ10 for a few months, after which I did get better quality grades on the embryos.

Please feel free to PM me, if you want any more details