Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

[blueeyedreamer]

Hi ladies,

Maria- I'm so glad everything is ok and that you saw the heartbeats!

Leora- things are a whirlwind for you now. I hope you feel better. Is any of your family in Israel? How do you like it there compared to here?

I will catch up more tomorrow. I'm in bed on my iPod now. We had a huge snow and ice storm here. My training is coming along. Things are about to get busier. I go for my lining check on the 31st and will know more then about transfer time.

Got to spend time with friends yesterday. We went to the roller derby and then out to dinner. Fun night.

[anton]

Happy Birthday Rosie!!!!! is this the big 30! I wish health & happiness in your life and I am sure a healthy pregnancy is what makes you happy these days!!







Love and kisses
anton

[Kerri_789]

Leorira, I have good feelings about your new clinic and new RE. Everything is personalised and the care sounds super cool too! Enjoy your cruise. Your two-people era is going to end soon

We, thank god that everything turned out to be fine. Hope you a smooth pregnancy hereafter.

[Alwaysangel]

We- hope all is well today!

Rosie-Happy Birthday!

Leorna-I'm glad you like ur new re. Looking back I'm glad I changed re's last summer....the first one almost put me in ICU and I didn't even know it!!!!good luck this week!

[Julia73]

Happy happy birthday Rosie!

[leorira11]

Bonnie - sorry about the sickness, but it's a great sign!

Patricia - wow. That's tough about your sister. Can you talk to her now that you're going through it? Is she open to talking to you about it? 6 years is a long time to wait to adopt... but that's what we're facing too. Wow? Really? My husband plays on the European server -- are you Alliance or Horde? I'm so impressed with how much you are working out. You go girl!

Christy - it's much less of a "health insurance" and more of a "health care system". Every resident is eligible (although citizens pay less and get better benefits than alien residents). No such thing as "pre-existing conditions" -- everything is covered. There are 4 health care companies and you have to sign up for one (mostly by geographical region - but here in the middle/most-populous area, all 4 are run). I have a magnetic card and everything is digitized. The American concern about this type of system is a lack of privacy -- any doctor can swipe my card and see my entire record. But with medical files, don't you think that's best? The only thing that is kept private here is HIV status (long story about why). The hospital system is separate, but hospital visits are pretty much always covered by the health care system. Different clinics accept different systems (ie the family medicine practice near me accepts two of the four types of 'insurance') and there are also "main clinics" that are run one of the four systems. You can pay extra for "gold" or "platinum" status (basically, more access to specialists with fewer referrals needed, bigger discounts at the pharmacy, etc --- we pay for it - about $50/month for the two of us for the best possible level). I pay NOTHING to see a regular doctor (either a GP or a OB-GYN). To see a specialist, I usually pay about $4. I have to pay a $4 co-pay for specialty tests (X-rays, U/S, HSG, etc). I can buy my prescription drugs at a health fund clinic -- most oral medications (my anti-depressants, basic antibiotics, ibuprofen/paracetomal/cold medicine/other OTC drugs) cost about $4-10. The injectible meds are a bit more (about $50-75 per package of 10 doses of Menopur or a cartridge of 900iu of Follistim) but still quite reasonable.

Pretty much - health care is not a "benefit" here, it's a RIGHT. Even if you are unemployed, or have a chronic condition, or ANYTHING -- you only have to live here to get FREE medical care. (When you work, you pay part of your taxes into the health care fund -- but you are covered even when unemployed.) Granted, our taxes are higher, but you never have to worry about medical care.

Of course, that means that the legislature decides who gets what treatments -- but most everything is covered. There are "grey areas" (ie, sometimes the laws decide that someone isn't eligible for certain treatments) but those exist in any medical field. For example, with unexplained infertility, you have to do 6 IUIs before you can qualify for IVF. If you have 10 transfers with no pregnancies, you lose your IVF qualification. Things like that.

Margi - yup - lots of 'new' things happening around here... hopefully the next 'new' thing on the list will be "carrying a pregnancy to term"!

Nicole - D moved here with his family (mom, dad and 1 brother) when he was 10. They all live within a 10 min drive from us. My whole family (mom, step-dad, 2 bros and 1 sister -- I have a dad and step-mom, but I haven't spoken to them in quite some time...) lives in the USA. My youngest brother is here for a 'gap year' studying abroad between high school and college (well... not so much "studying" as "drinking as much as he can because the legal drinking age here is 18" and "bumming around, wasting time", but still, nice having him around for a while!)

People have the impression that things really different here, but they really aren't. There is a lot in the news right now about the segregation of women and men and the oppression of women, but that's really in select (ultra-religious) groups. Life here is pretty darn normal -- I wake up, pack a lunch, drive to work, work, drive home, hang out with friends. Just everything is in a different language Yeah, we worry more about bombs on buses than most, but you really don't think about that stuff on a day-to-day basis.

AFM - I am a f*cking saint. OMG.

I have a friend who has been pissing me off for a while, but in any case, she had a baby boy 2 weeks ago. I visited her at the hospital, but hadn't heard from her since. We usually talked once a day, so I was getting annoyed that my SMS/emails/etc were getting ignored. Anyway -- I bought her a (big, nice) baby present and called to say I was coming over to drop it off. (First of all, going to a baby store for the first time since losing the boys -- OUCH!) When I got there, she was a mess. She is really depressed and feeling cooped-up. After all her talk about "breast is best" and down-talking our friends who pump or formula feed, her son is having issues latching so she is pumping and supplementing with formula. She had to pump and just bitched about how awful it is (I sympathized. I know it sucks having done it for 9 days this summer). The weather has been rainy and she was crying about how she never gets out of the house and how she is so tired and taking care of him is so tedious and boring and time-consuming. Every time he fussed a little bit, she looked like she would scream. I'm not exactly the right person to vent about this stuff to... don'tcha think?

She begged me to come back tomorrow. Her husband is working in the evening again. She said that yesterday evening while he was at work, all she did was sit around and hate her life. She wants me to come keep her company. I said "yes". What a f*cking good friend am I, huh? And I *know* that if I ever have a baby, no way is she going to do any of this for me. Why oh why do I keep this toxic person in my life? In any case, I feel bad now. I'll go over after work tomorrow to keep her company. UGH.

Look - I know that having a baby won't be a pleasure all the time -- I'm not looking forward to sleepless nights and breast-feeding difficulties, and losing my social life, and being cooped up with a baby --- but OMG! I just don't think I can deal with this right now.

I've definitely had a shift in the last year --- when we started, I wanted to get pregnant. That was a goal in and of itself. I wanted the big belly, and feeling the baby move, and all of that. Now - I don't want that. I just want the baby. I would gladly skip all the stress of getting pregnant again and just have the baby. I don't care if I never get pregnant again, just as long as I have the baby.

I recognize that this is a big emotional step.

I guess the next step is being so desperate for a child that I don't care if that child is a baby -- and we adopt an older child. Now that I know that I can grieve a part of this, without losing hope for all of it, I'm relieved. I know that right now I'm not ready to accept not having a baby -- but that one day I will be able to accept that and move on. I could give up on the dream of being pregnant while holding onto the dream of having a baby-- maybe I'll learn to give up the dream of having a baby, but hold onto the dream of raising a child.... does that make sense?

[Ninde]

Evening ladies, kind of quiet on here today?

Christy: brilliant advice, thanks, I'll give it a go. How are you today?

Rose &;anna'shope: happy birthday

Nicole: I love the idea of a roller der by!!

Maria: how are you feeling?

Leorra: my sister is quite good, certainly about the,miscarriage. But there are things about how I live my life thatbshenreally disapprovesnof and sometimes that gets in the way.oh im Alliance all the way!!! Your friend certainly sounds toxic and really mean from what you said previously. If you can handle it then maybe it will be ok. But just watch out that if it becomes too much that you can walk away, ok? And yes, I getthat things have shifted for you. It sounds like its really all about having a family. And thats wonderful x

Everyone else - see previous page for my personals to you all

Afm: wreckrd! Didnt sleep well last night and had a 630am training session then worked til 8.30. I felt so sorry for my last client. I saw her as part of a couple for nearly two years. They worked so hard and got married and she is going to do a number of sessions with me. She has had three natural miscarriages in the last 6 months. Her loss is huge. Funny though, it made me think that one of the reasons I havnt done a couple of sessions myself after the miscarriage is that i couldnt bear if the therapist minimised the loss.

Ninde

[WeHaveHope]

Hi ladies,
Sorry I haven't posted. I really haven't been feeling well. I haven't had anymore active bleeding. The only thu g I've had is old blood high is normal and wa expected after the heavy bleeding on Sunday morning. I'm feeling quite a bit of lower abdominal pressure which I guess is expected. I am also having persistany nausea which gets significantly worse in the evening time. The bad taste in my mouth has also not gotten any better. Everytime I eat or drink anything other than water, I am left with this metallic taste in my mouth, yuck. And, let's not forget the heartburn and complete lack of energy I'm experiencing. I'm hoping that this will subside soon. I thunk that the fact I have a bad cold is not helping the situation but I really would like these symptoms to get a little better. I spike to my nurse today and she confirmed that I have a subchorionic hematoma. Nothing can be done. It should resolve itself by bleeding itself out.

[fvrogers]

Hi ladies,
Sorry I haven't posted. I really haven't been feeling well. I haven't had anymore active bleeding. The only thu g I've had is old blood high is normal and wa expected after the heavy bleeding on Sunday morning. I'm feeling quite a bit of lower abdominal pressure which I guess is expected. I am also having persistany nausea which gets significantly worse in the evening time. The bad taste in my mouth has also not gotten any better. Everytime I eat or drink anything other than water, I am left with this metallic taste in my mouth, yuck. And, let's not forget the heartburn and complete lack of energy I'm experiencing. I'm hoping that this will subside soon. I thunk that the fact I have a bad cold is not helping the situation but I really would like these symptoms to get a little better. I spike to my nurse today and she confirmed that I have a subchorionic hematoma. Nothing can be done. It should resolve itself by bleeding itself out.

Oh Maria, I am so sorry that you are having a rough time. I know first hand how miserable you feel. I was like that up until 16 weeks or so. It is sheer misery. The metallic taste is the worst. Anyways, send me a message if you want some remedies that worked (seriously they did help). Do you have any Zofran? That did not stop the nausea but it did keep me from vomiting and at least helped me feel good enough to eat at least one meal during the day. Like you, the evening was the worst and dinner was out of the question. Try not to stress about the hematoma. It took about 3 weeks for mine to fully bleed out. Seems like they are common with IVF pregnancies. Hang in there hun ... if it's any consolation my OB swears that having this many symptoms is a good thing!

[Sunshine1576]

Maria,
I'm praying the road gets easier, hey you've gotten this far already it must get easier in the second trimester. Let's take it one day at a time and before you know it all of these side effects of pregnancy will be gone. I think what matters most is you have seen both heartbeats and the doctor reassures you that everything is ok. We hear that bleeding in pregancies is common, but I do pray you have it a little easier with less worrying the rest of the way.

Ninde,
A good therapist nevers minimizes a loss, although it'6s sometimes hard for others to understand what we go through. I know this client felt she was in good hands today and you could relate to her longing for a child as all of us here can. Did the doctor have any explanation for recurrent loss in her case? I know it's a personal question but hopefully she was able to open up to you and explain everything. I hope you are holding up okay. How did your seminar/workshop on Happiness turn out?

Leora,
WOW, I really like your health care system.. Your injections of follistim are very reasonable considering it cost somewhere around 1300.00 for my last meds. To have 10 given IVF cycles would give us more of a chance, Not sure about the magnetic card reading our medical history for everyone out there to see, but you seem have alot of good perks with your health care system. I hope you have much success with your new RE doctor, but right now we are counting down for that cruise!

AFM: Nothing much new, looked at a calender today figuring out my cycling...looks like I'll have two natural cycles before going on birth control AND the IVF class for new patients will be sometime Mid-March. Lol dh still wants to take advantage of refinancing the house w/ a fixed 3% rate for 15 yrs and I keep reminding him we have priorities with our upcoming treatment. He was looking for a third job tonight and while I appreciate the ambition, I wish he wouldn't try to kill himself.

[blueeyedreamer]

There is so much happening on our board! It's hard to keep up.

Maria- Thinking of you and hoping your hematoma goes away soon.

Christy- For some reason I always want to call you Sunny. What is the IVF class at your clinic? Your DH sounds like a wonderful man. I do wish to that he wouldn't try to kill himself with work. Do you get to see each other?

Leora- You are a saint. Although I feel for her that she is dealing with some postpartum issues, I don't think it is fair for her to place that burden on you. Kudos to you for your strength. Thanks for the info on your country. It's always interesting to hear how others live. Your health care system sounds divine. It's a mess here. I do like that I have been quite lucky (mostly) and have had access to good insurance and therefore have had good docs. I did have yucky insurance once and it happened to be in a very difficult year. I ended up with $10,000 in medical bills. YUCK.

Patricia- How bizarrely interesting that you and your sister miscarried at exactly the same stage. I think that would creep me out a bit! What do you do in a trampolining?

I know I have missed lots of you. I spent the evening sleeping and then working out with my trainer. Yikes!

[WeHaveHope]

UPDATED 01-24-12 @ 8:10am EST

Please assist me in updating the board by posting a quick update on your status. Also if you know the status of anyone else on the board that I need to correct, please let me know. Sending you lots of xoxoxo.








UPDATE NEEDED
Melinda72-ER 9-12-11
Kendra_n_Michael-estimated ER 9-20-11
Sky7371-ER scheduled on 10-24-11
Krrice28-IVF 10/2011
Catdempsey-Fall/2011 ER end of October
Pinkboots11-PUPO. Beta 11-7
Kerribell FET Nov/2011
Tamera-ER 11-11, ET 11-16
Becca-PUPO FET 11-2
Fruit-Fall/2011
Jasmin-Fall/2011
Bebesperanza-Fall/2011
Greekchick Fall/2011
Olim78-PUPO 12-1(2 blasts)


Cheri76-FET Feb/2012


Anton-IVF 2012
Gina1976-will schedule appt w/RE in several months for 1st IVF
Ninde-ER & ET 3/2012
Sunshine1576-May/2012
Julia73-IVF Feb/2012
Amanda1979-Natural cycle with meds until IVF April/2012
Leorira-IVF Winter/2012
Jayne321-IVF #3 Feb/2012
Tiger04-IVF Feb/2012
Lauren-March/2012
Mommaforthe4thtime-1st IVF 2012
Nikic01-Winter/2012
Indigofire-Winter/2012
Janis613-1st IVF January/2012
Kala0704-June/2012




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Alwaysangel-PUPO 1-20(2 embies)

RESULTS

Fvrogers-PUPO on 9-22-11 (2 blasts). BFP 9-30 Beta=57, 10-3=290, 10-24 u/s one HB
Tuffy4u-PUPO on 9-24-11 (2 blasts). BFP 10-3 Beta=205, Beta 10-5=519, 10-25 u/s twins 2 HB's
K8ielovett-PUPO 9-19-11. BFP 10-3 Beta=953, Beta 10-6=3403
Toniaa-PUPO 9-24-11(2 blasts). 10-6 +HPT, No Beta waiting for u/s
Counsel13-PUPO(4 embies). BFP 16dpo=470, 18dpo=2060
Bodie1011-PUPO 10-7(2 embies). 10-14 +HPT, 10-16 Beta=248, 10-18 Beta=725, 10-25 u/s twins, 10-31 2 HB's, u/s 12-25 Twins
Jen8675309-PUPO on 10-14(2 embies). 10-27 Beta=46, 10-29 Beta=59, 10-31 Beta 105
JenMink55-PUPO 10-29(3 blasts). +HPT, 11-7 Beta=135, 11-9 Beta=320, 11-28 u/s 1 HB, 12-22 HB 170
Blessed143-PUPO FET 11-3(2 embies). 11-10 +HPT, 11-14 BFP Beta=46, 11-16 Beta=89, 11-18 Beta=239, 12-2 u/s 1 HB.
Nac-BFP 11-28 11dp5dt Beta=42, 12-1 14dp5dt Beta=165
Rosie84-BFP(5dt of 2) = +HPT on 6dp5dt, beta #1: 308, beta #2: 849, 1st u/s (6w2d) - 2 heartbeats
Kbillsy-HPT+ 12/4, 1st beta 309 12/7, 12-9 Beta=642, 12-22 u/s 3 HB's
HappyBunny-PUPO 11/11/11 BFP 14dpo 227, 17dpo 1147, u/s one HB
Bonnieucwv-PUPO 12-11, BFP 12-19 Beta=94.5, 12-21 Beta=163, 12-23 Beta=355.6, 12-29 Beta=5640, 1-4 one HB
Lyd10-PUPO 12-16, BFP 14dpo Beta=215, 17dpo Beta=845, 22dpo Beta=3539, 29dpo Beta=17537, 1-13 u/s 2 HB's
WeHaveHope-PUPO FET 12-30(2blasts) +HPT 4dp4dt, 1-9 Beta=266, 1-11 Beta=727, 1-16 Beta=7125, 1-19 Beta=19076, 1-19 u/s 2 gestational sacks, 1-20 u/s 2 HB's both LO's measuring @ 6 weeks.
Kerpupples-PUPO 1-5(2 embies). 01-11-12 +HPT, 1-14 Beta=447, 1-16 Beta=1161



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[wishfull27]

AFM, found an interesting tread “eggheads” in the General forum which discusses DE problems. It seems inactive for a while. I hope that I can somehow bring it to live again. I will make an appointment with my old REs and see what they think about this. In the bottom of my heart, I want to try again with my own eggs but I have to take our financial situation in to account.

Kerri

Kerri - have responded to you on egg heads thread !!

Carolyn

[Happy Bunny]

We: Something that really helped me with nausea during my first pregnancy was popsicles; they usually instantly relieved the nausea. I bought the super cheap small ones in the narrow plastic tubes - they worked.

Bleeding sucks... Try to do your best to relax and drink lots of water. Hopefully, the bleeding will pass soon and you can enjoy your pregnancy without all the worry.