Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

[LYD10]

Hi Leora, my DH took coq10 for 4 months before the cycle and it improved our embryo quality by a lot. We usually get a few onetime ones and a few slow ones. This time every embryo was on time. But he needs to take it for 3 months before cycle. And the embryologist said DH sperm was visibly better looking. But she still had to look for a long time to find good ones. He also took fertilemax, which had some other ingredients there.

[Gina1976]

Leora- I hope the bleeding is the rest that's left to come out! I know you are ready for it all to be over with!!

Maria- Hope the sick feels go away and you can start enjoying every moment! That is so sweet about your DH! Glad you told family and I know they are just as excited!! Glad you got the okay to go on the cruise and that it's now closer! I really hope you get to rest and relax the whole time and not feel sick! How is your son doing?

DH will turn it in on Thursday....his first day back in 3 weeks! Going to be odd feeling for the both of us! He will hopefully find out my mid- late March. Once those there at work sign their parts, it goes to DC somewhere. Then back. He should find out before it returns I think. Thank you for the prayers.

[Waitingkay]

Leora - The God question is not simple. I found myself being angry with God, for real. It's painful to write, and surely painful for you to read because you've suffered so many losses - late losses. Yet maybe there's a value in sharing also this. When DH and I held our LO I truly felt like somebody up there was mocking me/us for thinking we had everything we wanted (because as you know it was my first pregnancy and this was already the 6th month!) to then just take it away from us, as if I/we were vain wishing for so much. These were the most painful moments yet I have felt angry during the majority of the months that followed the loss. I never have been really religious, I just generally like to think of myself as a person that believes in God without the definition of one particular religion. I have no answer to the question whether our babies are little angles looking at us. I do sometimes feel reassured at the thought that if they are in a better place, they are surrounded by for example my father who died almost 4 years ago or by my grandma who was a fantastic red headed lady who loved everybody in her life unconditionally, that's when I think of our son as little and needs protection. But the real pain and God questioning was when I often thought - had my son been all grown up, sitting in front of me, how would he react to me telling him what had happened? I felt guilty, I felt sorry he would never even get to see me, this was in the first few days "after", when I still had hormones that were physically bonding me with him. - I know exactly how surreal this all sounds, but I voted for sharing with you because I think of "normal" after such a loss as an incredibly broad definition. I had a hysteroscopy a few weeks ago, just to check my situation after the D&C and also to learn whether there was something there, leading to 3 (*******) chemicals and 1 major loss. We learned nothing new, also it was quite unpleasant, but maybe it's not always a bad idea?.

Always - Did you test for APS prior to taking Lovenox? Did you have a hysteroscopy or are you considering it now?

WeHaveHope - wonderful pics...giving us all hope and happiness.

Sunshine - you have THE most phenomenal talent for writing, THE most romantic date story, THE most enviable joy of little things in life and what seems to be a fabulous capacity to really connect with others (like your clients and co-workers). Seriously, your date sounded like out of this world, don't laugh, but you really reminded me of Mary Poppins' date - you know what I'm talking about? Well I found a picture on Google just to visualize how you made me feel. Please tell more!!!

Kay

[Ninde]

Evening ladies just a quick note before bed

Christy: what an amazing day you had and what's even better is how you took note of it all. Really lovely. Any sign of af??

Gina: best of luck to you and your dh on thurs

Leora: im sorry its this tough. What helps you get through the dark days? You are a strong, kind woman and I really wish you a break from all this pain

Maria: fantastic you have told people

Lyd: saw your post about coq10. How are you doing?julia: you still around?

Bonnie: how are you?

Blue: all set for tue?

Kay: that was some piece of writing in your last post. And thank you for saying it. I cant imagine what that time must have been like. Im so glad your grandmother is there to look after your little boy

Adkelp: how are you?

Always: good luck tomorrow. I would consider doing some Accupuncture too. I think there are few res who see that much benefit but anecdotal evidence is strong. But i think you are right to get some answers if there are any in terms of if there is a primary problem

Afm: getting ready for a new week. As I thought, my new "colleague" has already tried to drop me in it! However - im taking a new approach - taking delight in the presumption that she must be slightly threatened by me I dont even mind ifnthats not true, helps me deal with her SStarted my research on my next teaching piece. I have to teach two days to established therapists in Liverpool, uk, on the humanistic and integrative way of working with rape and sexual abuse. Im a humanistic and integrative therapist so it really shouldnt be as difficult to put the practice into words as its seeming! However, I'll get there. Right training at 7am so sleep calling

Ninde

[fvrogers]

Just Crashing for Leora



Wishing and praying that your beta gets down to zero this week so that you can move past this. I hate that this has been so drawn out for you. I am praying even harder that this is your year for your rainbow baby!

Much Love,

Felicia

[WeHaveHope]

UPDATED 02-06-12 @ 8:30am EST

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UPDATE NEEDED



Cheri76-FET Feb/2012
Akdelp-FET Feb/2012


Anton-IVF 2012
Gina1976-will schedule appt w/RE in several months for 1st IVF
Ninde-ER & ET 3/2012
Sunshine1576-May/2012
Julia73-IVF Feb/2012
Amanda1979-Natural cycle with meds until IVF April/2012
Leorira-IVF Winter/2012
Jayne321-IVF #3 Feb/2012
Tiger04-IVF Feb/2012
Lauren-March/2012
Mommaforthe4thtime-1st IVF 2012
Nikic01-Winter/2012
Indigofire-Winter/2012
Kala0704-June/2012
WaitingKay-Feb/2012




Blueeyedreamer
Supergenius-Feb/2012



Janis613-1st IVF January/2012








RESULTS

Fvrogers-PUPO on 9-22-11 (2 blasts). BFP 9-30 Beta=57, 10-3=290, 10-24 u/s one HB, 1-24 u/s Baby BOY
Tuffy4u-PUPO on 9-24-11 (2 blasts). BFP 10-3 Beta=205, Beta 10-5=519, 10-25 u/s twins 2 HB's
K8ielovett-PUPO 9-19-11. BFP 10-3 Beta=953, Beta 10-6=3403
Toniaa-PUPO 9-24-11(2 blasts). 10-6 +HPT, No Beta waiting for u/s
Counsel13-PUPO(4 embies). BFP 16dpo=470, 18dpo=2060
Bodie1011-PUPO 10-7(2 embies). 10-14 +HPT, 10-16 Beta=248, 10-18 Beta=725, 10-25 u/s twins, 10-31 2 HB's, u/s 12-25 Twins
Jen8675309-PUPO on 10-14(2 embies). 10-27 Beta=46, 10-29 Beta=59, 10-31 Beta 105
JenMink55-PUPO 10-29(3 blasts). +HPT, 11-7 Beta=135, 11-9 Beta=320, 11-28 u/s 1 HB, 12-22 HB 170
Blessed143-PUPO FET 11-3(2 embies). 11-10 +HPT, 11-14 BFP Beta=46, 11-16 Beta=89, 11-18 Beta=239, 12-2 u/s 1 HB.
Nac-BFP 11-28 11dp5dt Beta=42, 12-1 14dp5dt Beta=165
Rosie84-BFP(5dt of 2) = +HPT on 6dp5dt, beta #1: 308, beta #2: 849, 1st u/s (6w2d) - 2 heartbeats
Kbillsy-HPT+ 12/4, 1st beta 309 12/7, 12-9 Beta=642, 12-22 u/s 3 HB's
HappyBunny-PUPO 11/11/11 BFP 14dpo 227, 17dpo 1147, u/s one HB
Bonnieucwv-PUPO 12-11, BFP 12-19 Beta=94.5, 12-21 Beta=163, 12-23 Beta=355.6, 12-29 Beta=5640, 1-4 one HB
Lyd10-PUPO 12-16, BFP 14dpo Beta=215, 17dpo Beta=845, 22dpo Beta=3539, 29dpo Beta=17537, 1-13 u/s 2 HB's, 1-25 u/s 1 HB
WeHaveHope-PUPO FET 12-30(2blasts) +HPT 4dp4dt, 1-9 Beta=266, 1-11 Beta=727, 1-16 Beta=7125, 1-19 Beta=19076, 1-19 u/s 2 gestational sacks, 1-20 u/s 2 HB's both LO's measuring @ 6 weeks.
Kerpupples-PUPO 1-5(2 embies), 01-11 +HPT, 1-14 Beta=447, 1-16 Beta=1161, Twins



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[leorira11]

Lori (always angel) - slightly different for me, but we also have had nothing but losses and keep questioning what the f*ck is going on. All of our testing has come back normal - and we keep being told that we are doing everything right and that there is nothing else to test. So frustrating. The IVF is hard enough - but losses afterwards are just so much harder. If I can't conceive and carry to term, I don't want to do more IVF! But they keep saying that we should be able to and we just have bad luck. GRRRRR.

Maria - thanks - even just doing 8 IVF transfers would be enough of a story, but to have 4 pregnancies and still no kids? UGH. I've been pregnant a total of 22+10+24+5= 61 weeks -- why don't I have a baby yet?!

So glad those twins are doing well.

Lydia - thanks. Not sure I could get my husband to take multiple vitamins a day (he would agree to, but would constantly forget!) I'm thinking that maybe it's a good idea anyway. If it takes 3 months to work, well, we could still be doing this in 3 months, right? 30% chance of success with a SET means a 70% chance we'll have to do this again!

When's your next u/s? I hope your little one is doing great!

Kay- I didn't mean to bring up such a sensitive issue - Faith is just something I struggle with all the time. Most of my friends are religious Jews and keep saying to pray -but I just can't even pray anymore.

Patricia- what is humanistic and integrative therapy? After our first loss, I was told to see a CBT (cognitive behavioral therapist) and I like it - the mind/body connection and how to cope with emotional things with physical reactions and meditation.

Felicia - thanks! I'm hoping I get a 2012 (or 2013!) rainbow baby....

AFM -

beta today was 24, which is good.

But the bleeding didn't make that damnned sac leave! Ugh. Still there. Grrrr.... 10x10mm, but what's concerning the doctors is that this sac is getting blood flow (ie on the u/s they are watching with the multicolored doppler feature).

So the hysteroscopy is happening on Wednesday morning.

I had one last year, but I don't remember... can I go to work after? Will I be feeling up to it?

[anton]

Hi everyone!

How are my heroes today!




Leora
Good news on the beta! .... I loved your graph! You sound so organised and perfectionist! I love that in people because I am like that too I have all my ivf attempts in a file down to the very detail for each attempt. My DH is scared with that amount of detailed in that file and he thinks is impressive and scary at the same time I take it with me to every RE visit …just in case a question comes up regarding previous attempts to be ready with documentation …of course I know everything about my IVF cycles by heart and taking the file with me is just an extra. Both the RE’s and staff I have been worked with through my IVF journey are impressed with all the info I know about IVF and my body in general. I believe this is a way for them to take our case more seriously. (you guys are not dealing with ignorant people!) I remember during my 6th IVF while I was having an u/s my RE said that my edo lining was 11mm and I told him that in my 5th IVF cycle on same day of u/s ( CD14) my endo lining was 10mm…does it mean something is changing Dr? for the record…. He almost dropped the stick & stir thingi, and goes to me, “..OMG! you never seize to amaze me!” ..I believe that all women must know everything about their body, especially when going through IVF. Of course we are not MD’s but it helps to understand what they are talking about. If I don’t understand I ask…and I google it! I love Dr. Google!

Prior to IVF I have never visited the OB besides for pap test, I never had an operation of any kind and of course never taken medication other than panadol or something for flu. Ever since IVF, from Aug 2009 – July 2011 I have been put under genera anesthesia 7 times (incl. Lab/Hyst surgery) had more than 200 shots on my belly, took so many meds/hormones/patches/pills and all kinds of fertility drugs, transferred 14 embryos so far…and still no baby Hell! I am thinking of going to med school and “fix” me!

Refering to your last post….there is no doubt that going through 7 IVF’s (me) and getting nothing but BFN’s (all tests normal, perfect blast’s, etc just bad luck!) can compare to not been able to carry to full term a pregnancy and even worse x 4 times! (you) Thing is, it is very hard for everyone going through infertility and IVF. There is pain behind every story, every woman on this board and the world outside and there are different kind’s of people that can handle situations better than others or just give up. No one should be blame for her reaction of course. Personally, I am tired, frustrated, disappointed, angry and very, very sad about my situation and I find my IVF journey very long, painful and very unfair But I can’t say that I am the worse case and I get hope by reading success stories followed my multiple failed IVF attempts with only negatives, no chemicals , no m/c’s. And again, my case is far more “easy to take” than yours but it doesn’t mean that the pain is less

You are brave and I admire you for keep on going! I have been telling you that from day one I posted in this blog and I will continue saying this. You are my hero and you inspire me for keeping my journey on the road. Keep up your PMA and you will get your baby soon! I wish you that with all my heart my friend!

About hysteroscopy, I have mentioned in other posts, that I have done a Hysteroscopy together with Labaroscopy and I had to stay home for a week. Now, doing it alone, I don’t know how it should feel I am sorry you have to do it and I wish you a quick recovery! ((hugs))



Christy
What a romantic date that was! I have to agree with the “out of this world/Mary poppins Kay described! We should cherish these moments with our other halves! Precious! Precious! If not for those moments we go nuts living in the infertility world! Kudos honey!



Ninde
Thank you so much for the compliment on my figure! ....one has to know his/her limits and set expectations…Your job sounds very interesting!...and self consuming…dealing with problematic entities requires mental strength and balance and you seem to have all it takes to do the job Good for you and good for finding “ways” to deal with that colleague situation. Like Nicole said, I hate dominant people!….Congrats on loosing 2 more lb’s! Yay!! keep up the good work honey!

Blueeyedreamer
Good luck on your FET tomorrow!!! This is IT! Your LO is coming to mama! I have all my fingers crossed for you! Needless to say you need to keep us posted on how did it go!!!

Wehavehope
Maria your LO’s look beautiful!! Thank you for keeping us informed in the growing process! Can’t wait to find out their gender! That and the picking names part are my favourite parts! So? Any thoughts?


Gina
Good luck to your DH dear! I’ll take free popcorn and a movie anytime!

Alwaysangel
How are you honey?

Kay
Thank you for sharing your emotions/feelings with your story …I cant begin to imagine how tough that must have been …courage honey and dont loose faith! ((hugs))

Felicia
Ouao! I can’t believe you are 22 weeks! Well done my friend! I am SO happy for you and your little “papaya”!


AFM- Today I went in for a second interview in one of the companies that I applied– the only company that replied...so far- I think it went well, but then again WHO knows! One thing, is good that I was called in for a 2nd interview but there are no guaranties here. They will let me know on their decision next Monday.

Weekend was pretty good, nothing major happened than the usual…yesterday I’ve been doing more research on the company’s brands for today interview and last night DH helped me with Q&A’s by doing role play with me …

DH is leaving for Budapest on Thursday and he is coming back on Monday He is attending an important for his field conference where he is one of the speakers and also he is hosting a chair. I hope I have good news to share with him when he gets back on Monday! Listen to this, he got a ticket with Malev airlines for his trip and the company got bankrupted! Have you heard about this? He is SO frustrated with his luck and started speaking generally on how unlucky he is! …you know, NO baby so far and blah blah blah…I tried to calm him down by saying how irrelevant and that this is just a coincidence and nothing more…it was like talking to a wall Thank God he didn’t speak of it besides that day...

I am reading a lot lately on how to “take in” the negatives, the bad news, bad situations in life and I have to say I find it helpful. I am positive by nature but you know, we all have our limits…I am trying to extend my limit! I will elaborate more on another post.

Got to go now, time is 1730 on Monday afternoon and I am going to have a P90X session, the one I missed this morning when I went for the job interview, make dinner and google until my baby comes home...

Baby dust and sticky vibes to us all!!

God bless you my lovely cyber buddies!

anton

[akdelp]

Ninde - Congrats on 2lbs. Can't wait until I can start losing a few pounds. These drugs make me gain... They changed protocal...I told them they need to change it again and put in it that they should contact the patient, via phone, when there is a change or another test they need to have complete. UGH. I then had to call and get the results....TSH is Normal...Thank God.

Leora - maybe you are done!!! "fun" is always "fun"! Hoepfully everything will be good tomorrow. You know, I got one of those things in the mail too! UGH....

Sunshine - We do have some say. Hard thing is that they don't give you any direction and no help giving you a gental nudge. We still have 17 frosties at the pronuclear stage and 2 blast frosties! We have to pay out of pocket for everything so additional testing is out. They told us we have no reason to test them prior to transfer. REALLY!?! They were all compromised. Here's hoping the small amount of time they were in the lab before being frozen that the exposure was not enough to hurt. We don't just start over because I got OHSS SOOOOOOO bad, thought I was going to die. It was horrible. Having fluid drained from my belly from being over stimed, injections to thin my blood, pain and lots of it, and other meds to make sure I don't get liver or kidney faliure....almost not worth it. I have 10 days I don't really remember much other than pain. My husband was so afarid I was going to die. We are doing a 5-day FET on 2/13! Our own little love baby (hopefully)!!!

[Alwaysangel]

As i am not confused enough beta went to 113!! They are wondering if eptopic??? Bw fri if numbers dont drop then us on mon to r/o eptopic?? Anyone have had this happen???

[Alwaysangel]

Omg i justed looked this up and now im freaking out!!! Meds or surgery to stop and this may prevent pregnancy!!

[Happy Bunny]

Always Angel: Leora is going through a similar event. Check back on some of her posts for how her situation is going.

[Sunshine1576]

Must play catch up tonight, even gone one day I feel a little behind...quick post to say AF arrived yesterday. One more natural cycle until I go on birth control in March and then the screening and craziness begins! Spoke to my brother today about our plans for IVF in May...I tell him everything since he and his wife also went through IVF, and we've always been close. He reminded me the more tries we have the better chance for success, which I learn the hard way in trying for so long naturally. I've decided right now all I care about is having enough retrieved so we can have some frozen. For some reason I feel it's my quality and if we have some that make it to a FET my chances for success could be somewhat greater, but I know it's like throwing darts in the dark...I just know our first ever IVF we had none that could be frozen, so I really want to make that happen...I started CoQ10 last night and will be on it for 4 months prior to transfer, so that's my plan! AF is bad, going to bed, be back tomorrow for personals.

[blueeyedreamer]

Hi all! I feel so lost, it feels like I haven't pasted in forever. We went to Canada again this weekend for a friend's 40th birthday. It was a lot of fun.

Leora- I'm hoping this roller coaster ends soon for you. I am so jealous of your cruise coming up soon.

We- Love the u/s pics! It's amazing how much we can see so early! I'm so excited for you!

Always- How confusing for you!

Christy- It's great that you have such a good relationship with your brother. Good for you for getting on the Q10 so early. You will definitely have a greater chance of it helping with 4 months time. It will be here before you know it.

Patricia- Sorry for the delay. My height is 5 feet 6 inches. I don't know how you measure in Ireland. My trainer has prescribed my protein intake to be my lean body mass in grams so my lean body mass was 118 pounds so I need 118 grams of protein. Does that make sense? It's a lower carb plan but not a "low carb" plan. It's really more about calories in and calories out with a focus on protein and amino acids to help with muscle growth. I take a protein drink and amino acids immediately after working out.

Anton- I love your colorful posts. I look forward to "seeing" you here. I'm totally excited now. I was really nervous about the FET. I am still nervous because this is our last embryo but I'm trying to stifle it.

AFM- Embryo transfer is tomorrow afternoon! I have been quite busy with our traveling and my working out. We had an AWESOME run on Saturday. I set a huge personal best on my 8 miler. My training and my new shoes have made a huge difference. My dh was so surprised with my performance and even treated me to a nice dinner.

Tomorrow I will be PUPO and I will take two days off of training like my clinic says. They don't support bed rest but do support 48 hours of "quiet time". Basically that means no working out, nothing strenuous or stressful. I can still work. I have my next training session on Friday. My plan is to still do the half marathon if I am pregnant. My doc has supported it. Mostly this is because it isn't a new activity. She wouldn't support starting running training after pregnancy is confirmed. My body is used to it so I should just cut back on the intensity of the workouts. Of course, this will all depend on how everything goes.

[LYD10]

Hi ladies,I've been MIA a bit. Sorry about that. But I be been keeping up with everyone's posts.

Had my 10 week us today and everything looks fine. Phew,I was super scared. Next couple of weeks will entail a bunch of bloodwork to test for genetic abnormalities. Another scary step for someone in their 40s. Hopefully everything will be ok.