Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

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Lori (always angel) - WTF? Ugh - this sucks. Beta hell is awful - I've been dealing with it for more than 10 weeks already. I hope yours falls to zero. Have you seen a RPL (repeat pregnancy loss) specialist? Besides Lovenox and PGD - what else can you do?

Janis- congrats! 8 fertilized is great. Did you do the transfer Friday or waiting until Sunday?

Gina - I really hope this vacation is relaxing and re-charging for us. I hope y'all can save up enough for a shared risk program! Would you qualify, do you think? If we had to pay out of pocket, I would be terrified to risk it all on one cycle, but I understand how expensive this stuff can be.

kbills - congrats on reaching the 2nd trimester! Don't worry so much about weight gain - just eat what you can. I suffer from hyperemsis all of my pregnancies - and lost tons of weight, but my babies have always been right on track for gestational age. They'll take EVERYTHING out of your body :D

Maria - it's always amazing to watch people's tickers count down to babies -- I know it seems to you like forever, but I can't believe you are already at almost 9 weeks! when is your next scan?

Patricia - thanks for understanding. So many people (including my own mother) say that we are so young, and have so much time, that we should take a nice long break from this. They think that the IVF is what's stressing me out and that ifw e don't cycle, I'll be less stressed. But they don't understand that it's waiting for the baby that's stressing me out (and not knowing if we'll ever bring one home) and the IVF is one of the only things that CALMS me down! The only time I feel less stressed is when I'm cycling -- the best is the first few days post transfer -- before that, I'm worried that something will happen and we'll have nothing to transfer, and a few days later, I feel stressed about BFN/BFP - but for the first few days post transfer, I feel relieved and relaxed. Weirdo, huh?

So glad AF is here! I hope you can either lose those last few pounds, or that they don't weigh you!

Christy - I really hope the cruise helps us reconnect. We keep talking about how we miss each other -- like we both feel like zombies and we miss the connection with each other. I hope the time away will help.The Hershey kiss thing sounds great, but I can't get them here! The Israeli version is called "click", which doesn't have the same romantic meaning! :D Each time he'd find one, he'd have to snap his fingers or something!

Paris themed room for Belle sounds awesome! You are such a great 'auntie'! I'm glad you had fun with her.

Nicole - I'm a huge sucker for POAS... I usually start at 3dp5dt - but I've never seen anything until 5dp5dt at the earliest!

I'm glad venting about your husband made you feel better. I always want to shoot some hormnoes into my DH so that he'll understand what it's like! And sheesh! Why can't men just text message when they will be late? Must be a guy thing...

Amy (kerpupples) - I'm so sorry about your FIL. Even if it was expected, it's still hard. --- The gas prices here are really really really insane. None of the Arab or other Muslim countries will sell to us -- so we have to buy third party. Most of the gas we have here comes via France, who just buys it from the Saudis or whatever. That means we have to pay the middle man AND pay to ship it halfway across the world and back!

akdelp - YAY! I'm so excited for you for your transfer on Monday!

AFM - we had a nice chill weekend.

There is an organization here that helps provide support for women doing IVF - subsidized therapy (witha therapist who is a specialist in IF), massage and yoga. I've been seeing their therapist (which is good) and I had a massage on Friday (subsidized so I only had to pay $15!) That was amazing! I really need to do massages more often!

We had friends come for lunch today - and otherwise, we chilled out in bed, watching TV and reading (and napping! I'm like a preschooler - I need my naps on weekends!)

Not sure if y'all stalk the other threads here but on Thursday I got D's lab results. The new RE ran all the same basic hormone tests that we did 3 years ago when we were starting.... D's prolactin is really high, but everything else is normal. 2 seconds on "Dr. Google" gives me the answer of "prolactinoma" - a benign peituitary tumor that can cause LOW SPERM COUNT! and is treatable with ORAL MEDICATION! WTF? Why has no one ever mentioned this as a possible cause? I looked at the blood tests from 3 years ago, and the number is also very high. We are meeting our GP on Wednesday to discuss. Hopefully he'll either explain why this is nothing, or refer us to an endocrinologist/MRI.

OMG - what if D's MFI is treatable? and we could get pregnant with IUIs, or injectibles/Clomid and INTERCOURSE? WOW! That would be a dream come true!

I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high, but it would be amazing.

Six days until vacation!
8 IVF+6 FET=6 BFN+8 BFP =

-b/g twins 22w (12.09)
-mc 10w (9.10)
-Micha (7.19-24.11) & Asaf (7.19-28.11) born at 24w
-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
-BO (4.13)-
-mc 6wk (9.13)

last attempt - donor sperm - baby girl born healthy July 2014
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Leorira-i know! It sucks!!!!!No i havent see one. My last miscarriage i was in beta hell for almost 3 1/2 months. Im not sure what else to do! We have a consult on the 27th. Im hoping to see is this round is miscarriage or ectopic? I not sure what else we can test for! We also have a consult with uro on the 27 to discusd a second mesa!

Hope everyone else is doing well!
Me: 31 DH:44 vast/chemo
9/10-severe ohss then mc 6w
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1/12-chemical
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Ninde- My clinic hasn't taken a stand on weight training specifically. My trainer just said to focus on low impact and static exercise. I did weight training yesterday but only chest presses while lying on the floor. He said not to put a lot of pressure on the pelvis, so I won't be squatting much :wink: I had been doing high intensity cross fit style exercise so it will feel weird to change. My doc only said to listen to my body and if I'm tired stop. The embryologist said that embryos do whatever they want. It won't matter much if I exercise or not. But, I should listen to myself and don't do anything that I will regret or question later. I'm not worried about what I've been doing.

Leora- I got a bfp on 4dp5dt last time but I had two embryos then. I only have one this time so I don't expect it too early.

We went out to try to find some snowy owls but didn't have any luck. We went out to an area that is supposed to be a hot spot for them now but it was a bust. Bummer.
Nicole 35, DH 42
IVF 1 BFN
FET 2 BFP twins, M/C 7 weeks.
FET 3 BFP, chemical beta high 81
IVF 4 BFP, chemical beta high 707
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Leora,
Click? Tell me it's not a knockoff...but humerous nonetheless! What's the story behind it but I have to ask...Do they even celebrate Valentines Day? If not, I suggest cooking dh's favorite meal with candlelight and who knows maybe a nice massage. So are you all set and ready for the cruise? Do you tend to overpack? One of my customers mentioned packing in shopping bags so when you get to the closet size room you can fold down the bags and not hassle with luggage getting in the way. Interesting huh? I think it's even more interesting the news your getting about your dh, I really hope it's treatable but cannot believe it's taken 3 yrs to find this out. Maybe your new clinic will make all the difference and bring you to a new diagnosis that's treatable, I really hope so!

Alwaysangel,
Keep us posted on everything, I pray Monday will give you better insight.x

Blueyedreamer,
I wish I had that much energy, really need a vigerous workout, wow did you mention boot camp? Yes always listen to your body and you'll know what feels right.

Ninde,
I need to ask my clinic for a good referral on acupuncture. It would be worth trying something that supports IVF.

I'm the biggest clutz...injured my lt great toe tonight at work 5 hrs ago and it's still throbbing. Some idiot placed an iron bar (we use for merchandising) in the corner right where we keep the broken down boxes, so tonight when I went to slide my box in with the others that bar falls over and hits right on top of my toe which btw has a ingown toe-nail. After 10 minutes of cussing I thought everything would be ok after all the yelling, my boss insists on writing an accident report, she said in case of worker's comp, but jokingly told her now she can't go on vacation with me and my toe. It looks bruised on top and the timing couldn't be any better since I'm meeting the girls for a mani/pedicure tomorrow afternoon before we go out for the dinner party I mentioned with the store crew, I'm thinking maybe the pedicure should wait, cannot even put on a sock...Boss said whoever put the bar there had it in the wrong place but I still blame it on myself. :( Dh is out tonight camping with the guys and they couldn't of picked a better time to go with our first real cold night down here. ***I have a question to ask you ladies as I know each clinic does things differently but wanted your feedback. :?: How many of you who have a regular 28 day cycle aren't placed on birth control before an IVF? The reason I'm asking is because I have a good friend who has a regular cycle but doesn't use birth control prior to IVF, never had to. My last clinic put me on it they said it was because they wanted control of my cycle so I would be on the same page with everyone there meaning surgery could be better planned out for the RE's convenience, and when I told my friend that she said how could that be if everyone's AF is different, but then I told her with my first and only IVF I remember right after I stopped bcp I had a light flow...so wouldn't that make my cycle "day one" when bleeding happens after stopping bcp? Also what are your thoughts on the bcp, do more and more RE's make it an "option" or is it considered a must? Thinking it would buy me more time naturally without it but I tend to overthink sometimes and needed some perspective. :D
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(2010-2012) 4 IUIs, 2 IVFs
FET cycle 2/25/2013
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Christy- Good question. It's been so long since doing the fresh cycle that I am not sure I remember clearly. I do think they put me on BCP though. I remember being aggravated that we couldn't just start. I wasn't a 28 day exact cycler, but was pretty regular at around 27-29 days. I don't think I ever understood exactly why the BCP was necessary. I'm curious what you find out.

So those of you who have had bfp with a single embryo transfer: What is the earliest dpt you got a bfp? I'm just curious. Thankfully I have been pretty busy so I haven't had a lot of time to focus on POAS urges. I did pick up some FRER today. I don't know whether to start tomorrow or now. That will be 5pt5dt. I'm going to try to hold out, but I don't know if I will be able to!

I am totally stoked that I get to go for a spa treatment tomorrow. DH gave it to me for Christmas. It's a 90 warm body cocoon and massage. YUMMY! Then we will go for a walk in the afternoon.

Happy Sunday to you all. :D
Nicole 35, DH 42
IVF 1 BFN
FET 2 BFP twins, M/C 7 weeks.
FET 3 BFP, chemical beta high 81
IVF 4 BFP, chemical beta high 707
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Christy- I've always wondered about the BC too, I'm having a blah moment and this might not make since, but it is supposed to help time everything in your cycle right? I can't seem to word it right but I believe that's what my RE I had before said. I've never had reg cycles until the last 1-2 yrs. Now it's almost every month!! However my Luteal phase can be short. So I know I'll get the BC. If someone is reg and always on time I don't see why they need to. Every clinic I look up mentions taking BC unless you don't do good on any type of medication for it.

Blue- Enjoy your spa treatment!! That sounds nice about right now!!
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Sunshine - our clinic uses BCP for a fresh cycle, just to get the timing right. We don't for FET.

Blue - both FET's I have done I have tested 5dpt and got BFP's. We transfered in day 5 expanded blats. Hope that helps. With this cycle I plan on doing the same thing... and 5dpt is on my birthday! SO, here's hoping for a BFP for both of us! :)
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Totally enjoyed my hour and a half of bliss this afternoon. It was a very relaxing massage and warm body butter wrap. Delish!

adkelp- Yep, bfps for both of us would be great!

BFN today but it is really early. I have FRER and dollar store hpts. Tested with FRER this morning. I stocked up on dollar store tests so I can poas away for the next few days. Friday will feel like forever away.

We walked 5.6 miles this afternoon which is two laps around Green Lake. There was a bald eagle there today. It's one of our favorite places to walk or run. I took it easy. It wasn't a strenuous walk. Made some super yummy beef stew tonight. DH is getting on my nerves, thanks to the hormones. He's bugging me about my eating plan. Long story but his nagging frustrates the heck out of me.
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FET 2 BFP twins, M/C 7 weeks.
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Hello ladies

Is it just me or is the board quite quiet at the moment?

Christy: How is your toe - that sounds like a hell of an accident. Would it be worth getting it x-rayed? My understanding of the BCP is also to control a cycle. I could have done that if I had wanted to but because I chose the downregulation cycle they didn't need to do it with me thankfully. And our clinic staggers how many people they will take so they will know when you ring in on day 1 if they can take you that month. Again, if you go with BCP you plan it in advance so that you fit when they can take you.

Nicole: 5.6 miles is one very decent walk! Sounds great but please don't overdo it! Why is your dh nagging you about your eating plan? My trainer gave me a diet to do for the next 7 - 10 days because I told him about the hospital! Basically I'll do one day with vegetables and protein (but not carrots or tomatoes!) and then the next day will be primarily veg. I have never not had protein but he said as protein contains fat that by doing it this way I should get a good kick start. You are supposed to do 3-5 days of veg and then introduce protein but my working days are just way to long for that and I don't think my clients would appreciate it if I keeled over!

Leora: Whats happening now with your beta? And did your clinic decide on d&c before you go?

Always: Good luck today. I hope your beta continues to go down

Maria: I'm beginning to worry! Are you ok?

Afm: was at a christening yesterday. My friend asked me to be Godmother which was just lovely. She is church of Ireland so we had the service at her church at 1030am and then back to her parents' house for lunch. We left about 2.30 and I planned to spend the evening writing but I lay down and passed out for two hours! However, I did get some done and my first client didn't show this morning so I got another little bit done!

Ninde
Ivf # 1 aug 2011 bfp. M/C 9 weeks
Ivf # 2 Mar 2012, beta Apr 12: Bfn
Ivf # 3 Aug 2012, another heart breaking bfn
Ivf # 4 Feb 2012
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A another quick note before I head off to the clinic...it's a 1.5 hour dirve from here...I was doing great up until this morning. I can not stop crying! WTH!?!?!? I am sure everything will be fine. I guess I just need to hear how my eggies are doing...they thawed 6 and all survived. I will let you know how it goes....
FET #1, #2 - M/C
FET #3 - @ 7 weeks
FET # 4 - Canceled. Hysoroscopy and DnC
FET# 5 - coming soon! November 2012 or so.
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Adkelp: Good luck today :)

Ninde
Ivf # 1 aug 2011 bfp. M/C 9 weeks
Ivf # 2 Mar 2012, beta Apr 12: Bfn
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Ivf # 4 Feb 2012
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Thanks Ninde!
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FET #3 - @ 7 weeks
FET # 4 - Canceled. Hysoroscopy and DnC
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I really need a jump start on weight loss. I seem to have a food addiction, at least that's what I think because I eat even though I am super full and not even hungry! I MUST stop this! I've had that happen in the past but I've always overcome it and changed, but for some reason I can't do it this time. I know most of that is just being lazy and bored, and some due to the Thyroid issue. I NEED to get on those medications but I keep telling myself, I'll lose a few pounds then go so I don't seem so horrible when I say my weight. However I just keep eating and sitting around! So disappointed in myself!! Dh and I stay up late on the computer or watching a movie or TV and it happens then too.

I WANT do lose weight and I KNOW I need to be healthier if I want a baby. I personally don't want this extra weight (I carry it only in my stomach too which sucks worse) before I even get pregnant! Ugh! I want this bad so why I can't I bring myself to do it. I guess I'm just stuck. I know once I start I'll look forward to it daily!
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So I typed this once already, and not sure where it went, but I will give it another try. I had my ET on Friday, which was a day 3. The RE called that morning and said he would transfer the two best ones, 4- and 3+, out of a scale of 1-5, 5 being the best. I immediately was very upset becuase we did a three day transfer vs. a five day, then I read a little and had some hope. We went that afternoon and did the transfer, he instructed me to call today to see if the other 6 were able to be froze.
When I called this am he said none of them made it to blastocyst stage. I am so discouraged becuase I feel like if none of them made it to that stage, and they were all rated 2-3 grade. Why would the two he put back in make it? I know its not over until I have my beta next Tuesday, but I feel completely hopeless. This is the hardest thing to go through, I am looking to see has anyone ever had a 3 day transfer work, with having all of the others not make it to freezing? Just looking for a pick me up, I am very down and sad :(

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TTC 3+ years
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Janis613 wrote:So I typed this once already, and not sure where it went, but I will give it another try. I had my ET on Friday, which was a day 3. The RE called that morning and said he would transfer the two best ones, 4- and 3+, out of a scale of 1-5, 5 being the best. I immediately was very upset becuase we did a three day transfer vs. a five day, then I read a little and had some hope. We went that afternoon and did the transfer, he instructed me to call today to see if the other 6 were able to be froze.
When I called this am he said none of them made it to blastocyst stage. I am so discouraged becuase I feel like if none of them made it to that stage, and they were all rated 2-3 grade. Why would the two he put back in make it? I know its not over until I have my beta next Tuesday, but I feel completely hopeless. This is the hardest thing to go through, I am looking to see has anyone ever had a 3 day transfer work, with having all of the others not make it to freezing? Just looking for a pick me up, I am very down and sad :(
Janis - My 3dt is currently 7 months old and crawling over my legs as I type this. Now I didn't have enough to even try to get to blast & freeze - we had 5 eggs at ER, 3 fertilized, and we transferred all 3 on day 3 - but sometimes the best place for your embies to be is back inside you. If we'd tried to push to a 5dt, I don't know that my little one would be here. So please don't give up hope! Good luck!
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