Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

[Happy Bunny]

Nicole- I'm glad it went up!! I hope it will continue to do so! Like you said maybe it's just a slow start and will all be okay


AFM- I was hoping to copy/paste the list my RE gave me of bloodwork/exams they will/can do, but it won't let me. It list other things like Genetic testings and things like that. I don't think I should get those, at least not the first time around. What do y'all think? Also one is Testicular Sperm Extraction.. that is only if he has issues with his sperm correct? He's swimmers are find and think we'll only pay the 100 Euro prep fee. We will save on the consultation part some since I'll bring that with me unless we missed something, and I am sure we'll have to pay something just to sit and talk. I will also have to ask about the freezing and storage since we will be moving to the states hopefully this year. I def want it all shipped to the states before I commit to trying. NOT leaving his sperm or my eggs here.

Now here is hoping our hospital will give me these test/exams. They are funny about things like that they don't cover.

The only pre-cycle testing that we had done for both IVFs was STDs, sperm count, FSH and trial transfer. Tricare paid for all of those.

[Gina1976]

Nicole- I'm glad it went up!! I hope it will continue to do so! Like you said maybe it's just a slow start and will all be okay


AFM- I was hoping to copy/paste the list my RE gave me of bloodwork/exams they will/can do, but it won't let me. It list other things like Genetic testings and things like that. I don't think I should get those, at least not the first time around. What do y'all think? Also one is Testicular Sperm Extraction.. that is only if he has issues with his sperm correct? He's swimmers are find and think we'll only pay the 100 Euro prep fee. We will save on the consultation part some since I'll bring that with me unless we missed something, and I am sure we'll have to pay something just to sit and talk. I will also have to ask about the freezing and storage since we will be moving to the states hopefully this year. I def want it all shipped to the states before I commit to trying. NOT leaving his sperm or my eggs here.

Now here is hoping our hospital will give me these test/exams. They are funny about things like that they don't cover.

The only pre-cycle testing that we had done for both IVFs was STDs, sperm count, FSH and trial transfer. Tricare paid for all of those.

Thanks. Yeah I forgot to mention the military part hah. At least you knew that already Hopefully when I bring in some test they will take some money off for the consultation. Now if I can get the medications lower that would be great. A friend used this clinic not long ago and it was about $2,000 for her. I know ours could be different but would love to only spend around $1,000 for that. We'll just keep saving so when we go to the consultation we will have everything ready to start.

[Happy Bunny]

Tricare also paid for my consult once we had our referral.

[Sunshine1576]

Gina,
I know your RE consultation will give you alot of answers, be sure to write every question down so you don't forget anything, the list will get pretty long as you're writing stuff down. I'm the same way, my clinic mailed me a letter with IVF test to schedule...well on the 2nd page it gives us our diagnosis code for male inf (which to this day I still think it's more me then him and I'm so overprotective that I don't want him to even see this page..."unexplained" would of been fine. But he still blames himself to this day. Truth is his many S/A test are inconsistant meaning they have been some better samples then the others and the difference all depends on LOCATION...hotel room or at home seems to be better then performing at a doctor office. Stress prob plays a huge part. Sorry I had to get into that...Back to the IVF treatment paperwork.) Do you guys also have to test for unspecified infectious disease screening? The list is ridiculous and must find out what is the requirement will def need to find out. Keep us posted what you find out on your end and yes the most inportant question to ask is will everything be shipped over to the states prior to leaving. When do you think you guys will be residing back in Georgia, I know you cannot wait!

Nicole,
I'm really praying for you girl. Feeling like we're all on pins and needles right now. Please keep us posted on how you are doing and I'm going to keep pulling for your u/s next Friday to see that there is a sac in there, I have everything crossed for you! So very true we could still adopt if this IVF is successful, but I'm kind of hoping it would be one way or another for both kids. Meaning I know we would love them the same, but we wouldn't want the adopted one to grow up being teased by his/her sibbling, maybe we wouldn't tell them until the time was right. Dh's preference is at least two kids, since we both come from big families and always had a brother who picked on us growing up, someone today who we are very close to and can talk to them about anything.

Maria,
I really am alieved that your u/s appt turned out beautiful and LOs are being so active and progressing along fine. What did you ever decide about your daughter's 16th birthday? Better yet how is her driving skills? I can still hear my dad say "easy on the curves" as he's clinging to the dashboard.

Kynlee,
Dads must be on of God's most influencial people. I lost mine 12 yrs ago this April and to this day I still hold onto to everything he ever taught me. This morning even before I got out of bed I was reminancing about my dad and stepmom going on cruises with his brother and wife and how they loved dressing up on formal night. My memories of visiting my grandmother and walking by the hallway and stop to look at their pictures and think how much fun they must of had. Whenever my Uncle Tom (Denver,CO) comes down to Alabama for a visit I cannot help but get so teary eyed, he's a spitting image of my dad.x My dad was so humerous at times, even had me laughing as he walked me down the aisle. Growing up when I was sick in bed, he would come to my bed and cheer me up with sock "puppet shows" AND even as a teenager still manage to make going out for ice-cream so exciting. It was the simple things in life but I treasure every moment we shared together. Hey do you think Deliah is rubbing off on me yet? Anyway, know that I am thinking about you girl and I really hope everything goes great with the appointment tomorrow. Grow follies grow!
You know I'll be texting you tomorrow too.

Lydia,
It must be pretty common b/c I have a tilted uterus too. Be sure to ask your RE at what point is it ok to start using the doppler at home, I wouldn't want you to worry if it was just too early to hear it.

Amy,
Sounds like you are progressing along nicely too, Ft Myers Florida sounds so nice. Dh went down there for a work conference said it was beautiful, I would of loved it but I was up in Georgia selling our house to move down. Is this your first trip there?

akelp,
Thinking of your beta tomorrow, wishing you all the baby bliss!

Anton,
How are you doing girl?

Ninde,
What's the update?

AFM:
Dh will be home in a couple of hours and he's bringing chinese for lunch, and then we'll head out to the garden and do some more planting. Crazy man has made 25 boxed beds!

[blueeyedreamer]

Sunshine- 25 boxed beds! Really! That's great. You will have an amazing garden. It's been raining to much here lately for me to want to get out in the dirt. I need to though. All of the spring bulbs are starting to shoot up. I can't wait to see the daffodils and tulips. There is a tulip festival locally that is just amazing! I want to go this year. We didn't go last year and I'm sad.

[Gina1976]

Happy Bunny- Thanks! That's great! I had forgotten at our last RE for our IUI we paid nothing for the consult since we had a referral, or any blood work actually. We just had to pay for the IUI itself. Thanks for reminding me!

Christy- Thanks. Yeah DH doesn't care much for the S/A! Once we were able to stay in a hotel the night before so it was better for him. Not sure about this time if we do it here because it is a 25 minute drive. I think they want it sooner than that time frame but it has been a while and I have a horrible memory! I see two test, Polar Genetics and just plain Genetics testing. Sounds like something we could skip this round.

If we are approved we will leave in November!! I think timing is messed up on the date we chose! Thanksgiving is a tad earlier this year but I know my parents will wait a day or two to celebrate it

Your garden sounds like it will be lovely! Dh and I miss ours we had. Now living on base we don't have our own yard. Once we move we will though! We thought we'd dig out our own island. It was fun but we'll never do that again by hand. We will rent something to help lol. It was in the 100's when we did it too lol.

[Sunshine1576]

Blue- Yes Ma'am 25 beds! dh tickles me though everytime he says we must plant the seed, I feel like he relates our fertility journey to his personal garden and it's becoming a plantation out there. Maybe we'll need to adopt the ten kids afterall. lol

Gina- That 100 degree weather wouldn't be so bad if you could dig an island around here. Maybe a pool would work instead?

Last night one of my facebook friends sent me an article I wanted to share with you ladies. Has anyone heard of this before?

Can a Gluten-Free Diet Improve Fertility?
by Hethir Rodriguez, B.S., M.H., C.M.T.

Celiac disease is a digestive disorder that causes damage to the small intestine resulting in an interference of the body’s ability to properly absorb nutrients from food. Celiac disease affects about 1 out of 133 people, though many people that have the condition are not even aware of it. If proper attention is not paid to the disorder and a gluten-free diet is not followed, many health problems can occur including infertility.

The Gluten-Free Diet
People that suffer from celiac disease are unable to digest and process gluten, which is a protein that is found in many grains like barley, rye and wheat. There are many food products on the market that contain gluten, and when these products are consumed by an individual with celiac disease a variety of symptoms can occur.

Unfortunately, many of the symptoms that present themselves from celiac disease are symptoms that are common with other digestive issues like irritable bowel syndrome, diverticulitis and inflammatory bowel disease. As such, in many cases the celiac disease is not properly diagnosed so it is not properly treated.

People that suffer from celiac disease must follow a gluten-free diet. When they eat foods containing gluten, their body’s own immune system actually begins to destroy the small intestine which prevents proper absorption of nutrients from food that can lead to a variety of health concerns.The Gluten-Free Diet and Fertility
The longer that celiac disease goes untreated, the higher the risks are of developing problems with fertility and conception. Clinical studies have shown that women with untreated celiac disease have a very high rate of infertility with difficulties in conceiving. Untreated celiac disease also seems to affect a man’s fertility as it creates a hormonal imbalance that causes reproductive disturbances.

The largest concern in women with untreated celiac disease is the high risk of miscarriage the condition seems to cause. In a case study performed on a group of women ages 22-38 years of age with untreated celiac disease, all suffered from recurrent miscarriages over a course of 11 years. All of the women were placed on a gluten-free diet and evaluated for the long-term to determine that affect of the gluten-free diet on their fertility. Out of the 13 women, 6 became pregnant within 1-4 years after starting the gluten-free diet with one having a successful multiple birth.

There is no evidence showing that a gluten-free diet will help the fertility of a woman that does not have celiac disease, though there is significant evidence that those women that do will benefit greatly from the change in diet. Not only can switching to the gluten-free diet help to improve the ability to conceive, but it also improves the woman’s ability to carry the pregnancy full-term.If you have been diagnosed with celiac disease and have difficulties with fertility, it is essential to switch to the gluten-free diet to improve fertility. If you have been diagnosed with another digestive disorder and are having problems conceiving, it may be worthwhile to be tested for celiac disease if you have not already done so to make sure a proper diagnosis has been made that can help you make any necessary changes to your diet if you do in fact suffer from the disease.
References:
1. http://jccglutenfree.googlepages.com/in ... scarriage2
2. http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac

[Happy Bunny]

Also Gina, I just looked at my pharmacy summary for 2011 and found that Tricare pays for the following with only a co-pay of about $5-10:

HCG
Leupron
Vivelle Dot
Progesterone
Methylpred

Follistim and Repronex were not covered in any way.

[Gina1976]

Also Gina, I just looked at my pharmacy summary for 2011 and found that Tricare pays for the following with only a co-pay of about $5-10:

HCG
Leupron
Vivelle Dot
Progesterone
Methylpred

Follistim and Repronex were not covered in any way.

Thank you SO much!

[Ninde]

Evening ladies

Kynlee: how did your scan go?

Akdelp: good luck tomorrow

Amy: im really sorry, I didnt mean to stress you out. Next cycle starts next week. Im very glad you are doing so well and i hope you have a lovely break

Nicole: im reallyreally hoping your beta is because of a late implanter. That would be so fantastic. How are you feeling?

Lyd10: sounds like a great machine

Christy: no doubt this is a very difficult journey. But to be honest adoption from my experience is just as tough but in a different way. Your garden sounds amazing no update on my weight. Did another tough rebounding class and trying to just accept that my weight loss is just a lot slower than others and where others lose weight on a changed diet reasonably easily, I just cant. Im hoping that mindset helps!

Maria: how are you doing?

Gina: we had to have all the std ones done and they have to be repeated every 6 months which is so irritating!!

Afm; I'll be Mia until fri night probably. I'll be working outside dublin til fri night and im not sure
If I'll have internet access. Keep well everyone

Ninde

[blueeyedreamer]

Christy- If someone has Celiac, they must follow a gluten free diet because the gluten makes those folks very sick. So regardless of fertility, gluten has to go. I have a few friends with Celiac. There is a difference in Celiac and gluten intolerance. We have talked a lot about this in my endometriosis group due to the inflammatory factor of endo. Some women have found eliminating gluten helps ease their symptoms. I didn't find any difference when I tried it. It was too much work. You can get tested to see if you are gluten sensitive. If so, then going gluten free or at least reducing it may help. In my experience, people with Celiac know something is wrong. They are sick a lot. It may take a while to figure it out, but they aren't running around in lala land with no symptoms. Gluten intolerance is different and may be more ambiguous. In my own research, diet can be very important for those with fertility issues but it depends on the type of problems causing the infertility. For us, we have tried to eliminate chemicals, highly processed foods, a lot of sugar, high fructose corn syrup, caramel coloring, anything with BPA like plastic containers, etc. I really like what my brother told me once. He said, "I try not to eat anything that has an ingredient list". Love that! Eat simple and clean and you will know you have done what you can to help your body. Easier said than done. I KNOW!
I am jealous of your 25 garden beds. I can't wait for the season to start here. It's tough in Seattle. We don't get a lot of warmth and sunshine to support a lot of vegetables! But, greens grow really well and I had the best spinach ever last year!

[blueeyedreamer]

Ninde-I'm feeling ok. I have been a little crampy but my biggest issue has been the lightheadedness. I started getting a scratchy throat and stuffy nose today. My voice is a little lower too. I hope I'm not getting sick.

Good news for the day...I got a new dress for our wedding anniversary! I was totally stoked to get to wear a smaller size and was able to fit into 2 sizes smaller but couldn't zip all the way. I'm hopeful it won't be too much longer for that! My dress is pretty. It's a bright deep pink and is semi-formal, knee length. I'll post pictures after I wear it. Our anniversary is on the 5th. We will do something on the 3rd most likely.

I'm very hopeful we get good news from the ultrasound because I don't want it to mar our anniversary. If it's not good, well then it will be what it will be. If it is ectopic and they suggest the methotrexate shot then I will refuse it until the next week because I will not be sick on my anniversary. So, I will think positive and hope that we get to celebrate more than our 1st anniversary.

Night night all.

[akdelp]

Sunshine - 25 beds! Sounds like my husband! 1 acre of sweet corn, a strwaberry patch that is 12x16 and a 28x18 garden full of veggies. I can tell you it looks like it came out of a magazine as much as he fusses with it. You'd be hard pressed to find any weeds! I love the produce we get, so I can't complain. He does also treat his lawn like it's golf greens...I give him so much crap! Our neighbors will have dandilions growing in there yard and ours has diamond patterns and no weeks...totally crazy...I tell him if this whole baby thing works out, he won't have time for that!

Blood is drawn, now we wait for results!!!

[kynlee]

Sunshine- Your Garden sounds awesome, I wish I could have a garden tried 3 yrs in a row no luck, must be the soil... Love fresh vegetables... Yes my Dad was a huge part of my life I was Daddys little girl he was sick with parkinsons since I was 15 and passed when I was 31 Dads can be a huge role in a childs life, My dh is so good with kids I cant wait to see him with ours

Blueeye- YOur dress sounds nice cant wait to see pics, hopefully you will be celebrating two thinsg that night

Ninde- Scan went good, follies are growing slow but thats cause I am on lower does due to the ohss I had on past cycles

AFM- Just got back from Dr's i have several Follies around 11-12 one at 13 so I am patiently waiting for these follies to grow looking like ER will be next week cant wait...

Had a great night last night my Godson turned One he is such a great baby Hope everyone is having a great day (hugs)

[akdelp]

BFP! 123 - she said anything above 40 is good. Last two times my numbers were much higher...